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Accolon
07/17/24 9:42:30 AM
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She's driving me nuts with the ghosts.

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Kim_Seong-a
07/17/24 9:44:44 AM
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Catch one of the ghosts and make it tell your wife that it's not real

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MeltraT
07/17/24 9:45:19 AM
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I could sell you a 100% failproof anti-ghost-protection-charm.
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ReturnOfDevsman
07/17/24 9:46:04 AM
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Then how do you explain this:

https://youtu.be/laQY0ECov_k?si=oq4awUAEyROTEjfM

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Glob
07/17/24 9:46:30 AM
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When you die, dont haunt her.
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Sephiroth_C_Ryu
07/17/24 9:47:58 AM
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Play non-movie/special/shaggy-only scooby doo series 24-7 on the TV.


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Villain_S_Fiend
07/17/24 9:51:33 AM
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Ask her logistical questions about them (some will depend on how she believes they manifest):

What would make it so some ghosts stay in their homes, while some wander the cemeteries where their bodies rest, others at their place of employment, etc.?

Are they bound by gravity? If so, what allows them to float? If not, what force maintains their physical relationship with the Earth as it spins through space?

If she has answers for questions like that, follow up by asking where that info comes from. The main thing is to introduce questions she may not have thought of, so then she either has to ponder these things beyond the surface level novelty of it, or else commit herself to willful ignorance that necessarily weakens the foundation of her belief.

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K181
07/17/24 10:12:26 AM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/0/06ad4a1e.png

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Euripides
07/17/24 10:12:51 AM
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They really don't real

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Vyrulisse
07/17/24 10:13:48 AM
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They are real though.

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tripleh213
07/17/24 10:19:28 AM
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Euripides posted...
They really don't real


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K181
07/17/24 10:21:04 AM
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Also, take her to basically any city hospital, point out that thousands of people have died there, and yet these sites aren't hellpits of paranormal activities.

I'd recommend the same for sites of major massacres or genocides, but those are harder to get to and if your spouse is dumb I don't want the takeaway to be denialism.

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ssjevot
07/17/24 10:26:19 AM
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You can't rationalize away magical thinking. I don't know why people keep not getting this. Did Richard Dawkins make everyone atheist by showing his superior logic? No, he just sold books to people who already agreed with him. People who believe in magic believe in magic because that's how they view the world. It isn't that no one bothered to tell them it isn't rational or logical. Did anyone need to tell you ghosts aren't real?

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Dungeater
07/17/24 10:27:13 AM
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ssjevot posted...
You can't rationalize away magical thinking. I don't know why people keep not getting this. Did Richard Dawkins make everyone atheist by showing his superior logic? No, he just sold books to people who already agreed with him. People who believe in magic believe in magic because that's how they view the world. It isn't that no one bothered to tell them it isn't rational or logical. Did anyone need to tell you ghosts aren't real?


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Vyrulisse
07/17/24 10:27:33 AM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

I'm afraid so.

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Dungeater
07/17/24 10:28:45 AM
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like, i would love for stupid magic bullshit to be real, but it obviously isnt. life isnt a comic book, as much as id prefer it to be

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Sephiroth_C_Ryu
07/17/24 10:29:55 AM
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Also, sorry, I'll stop haunting you guys. I'll mess with someone else instead. I wonder if DToast needs a ghost...


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Villain_S_Fiend
07/17/24 10:43:29 AM
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ssjevot posted...
You can't rationalize away magical thinking.
What are you talking about? Lots of people do. I did. Everybody who once believed in magic who don't anymore did. And we all do it by challenging ourselves with rational questions, some of which often come from other people. The only way out of magical thinking is through rationalization.

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TheSavageDragon
07/17/24 10:48:32 AM
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ssjevot posted...
You can't rationalize away magical thinking. I don't know why people keep not getting this. Did Richard Dawkins make everyone atheist by showing his superior logic? No, he just sold books to people who already agreed with him. People who believe in magic believe in magic because that's how they view the world. It isn't that no one bothered to tell them it isn't rational or logical. Did anyone need to tell you ghosts aren't real?

Exactly. I know a woman who watches all those crappy ghost shows and she regularly shows me clips and goes "Well then how do you explain this? Huh? Huh?".
Despite me explaining numerous times she's watching a TV show, not a documentary. Even asked her once "Why do you think it is that all of these ghost hunter types never have a single episode where they manage to find absolutely nothing?" And she thinks it's because they only visit actual haunted places obviously.
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ssjevot
07/17/24 10:49:49 AM
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Villain_S_Fiend posted...
What are you talking about? Lots of people do. I did. Everybody who once believed in magic who don't anymore did. And we all do it by challenging ourselves with rational questions, some of which often come from other people. The only way out of magical thinking is through rationalization.

You are literally talking about doing it yourself. You already think about things rationally. That's not the issue. A lot of people, most people in the world, don't think about things that way. And you can't convince them by showing how logical and rational you are, because that's not how they think about these things.

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TendoDRM
07/17/24 10:52:09 AM
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Euripides posted...
They really don't real

How can ghosts don't real if our eyes don't real?

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ReturnOfDevsman
07/17/24 10:56:36 AM
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K181 posted...
Also, take her to basically any city hospital, point out that thousands of people have died there, and yet these sites aren't hellpits of paranormal activities.

I'd recommend the same for sites of major massacres or genocides, but those are harder to get to and if your spouse is dumb I don't want the takeaway to be denialism.
This is one thing I don't get about ghost lore. If I can fly, and I'm invisible, why would I hang around some crappy old house, or wherever I happened to die, or the graveyard they buried me in?

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Pikachuchupika
07/17/24 11:04:59 AM
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If ghosts are real, there would be hundreds of millions of them from ages past roaming around the world, causing accidents, annoyance, and other problems. We'd know about it because it would be a regular part of life. They would be there while you're taking a shit or having sex. They'd be loitering around the highways to mess with cars and cause accidents. There'd be there when you're taking your test and giving you wrong answers.

They would be everywhere, and that would be a nightmare.
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VeggetaX
07/17/24 11:06:17 AM
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If ghost don't real then I don't wannabe

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BucketCat
07/17/24 11:10:42 AM
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ghosts are very real, I get ghosted by girls all the time.

and yes, it's scary when it happens.... scary sad :(

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pjnelson
07/17/24 11:23:27 AM
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  • Why are ghosts just humans? Animals grossly outnumber humans but yet we don't see trillions of ghost deer, lizards, and dinosaurs.
  • If it's a religious thing, that only humans have ghosts because only humans have souls, can we just give God the finger after we die and choose to hang out here instead of going to heaven/hell?
  • Why are ghosts just of humans from recent centuries and not from thousands of years ago, or longer? Where's all the native American ghosts from ten-thousand years ago?
  • Why do ghosts have clothes? Is there an afterlife clothing store? Do my clothes die with me?
  • Why do some ghosts look like how a person was at the end of their lives while others look like when they were younger?
  • Why are ghosts almost exclusively seen at night or in darkness or poor lighting? Are they afraid of the light?
  • If ghosts can physically manipulate objects, why just move my car keys and not grab a pen and write out messages to the living? Why not grab a controller and play some Xbox?
  • Why can ghosts walk through walls or closed doors but they don't fall through the floor and fall into the Earth?

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K181
07/17/24 11:27:21 AM
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RetuenOfDevsman posted...
This is one thing I don't get about ghost lore. If I can fly, and I'm invisible, why would I hang around some crappy old house, or wherever I happened to die, or the graveyard they buried me in?

I forget the name, but there was an old Newgrounds flash game where you played the amnesiac ghost of a murder victim trying to solve your own murder and save your wife, and the core conceit was that you were stuck close to your spot of death and limited in power until you regained memories and learned info about the crime.

So while ghosts are bunk, the idea of a tormented soul being physically stuck to say a couple hundred feet from when they had brutally died is a pretty compelling storytelling feature.

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Pikachuchupika
07/17/24 11:27:35 AM
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How are ghosts able to defy physics? They can float, go through things, but can also physically interact with the world. They also don't seem to need any kind of sustenance to sustain themselves. Even if they are dead, they still need some kind of energy source to keep going? What are they even made out of? Light? Ghost matter?

Ghosts are as real as god and heaven. Fictional and cannot exist.
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vycebrand2
07/17/24 12:36:08 PM
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I related my experience before. The cliff version is. I was helping my friend who had late stage COPD. I was doing laundry. I put it on the bed but layed it out so it wouldn't get wrinkles. My friend calls me up front. I see what she wants. It takes about 30 mins and I go back to finish the clothes and they are all folded. No one in the house except us and it was during the height of covid. The only people visiting were home nurses. I have read on some theories all are silly. One is a guardian angel, another was a ghost and the a kolbold (the german fairie not the dnd monster) here's the wiki on it. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobold.

I would love to hear some thoughts on how

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voldothegr8
07/17/24 12:41:37 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OqOnvRHkNg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9URhmPTF2w

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The-Apostle
07/17/24 1:11:39 PM
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I grew up in a haunted house and I've had other experiences since leaving my childhood home, so they definitely exist.

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Dungeater
07/17/24 1:23:58 PM
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yea definitely

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BewmHedshot
07/17/24 1:28:01 PM
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K181 posted...
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emblem-man
07/17/24 1:32:33 PM
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If they believe in ghosts, I'm not sure how you try to rationalize it away. It's a feeling and vibes based. You most likely won't change that.

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Turducken
07/17/24 1:34:49 PM
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How can ghosts don't real if our eyes aren't real?

Edit: Sonovabitch didn't see post 24 beat me to it literally word for word.

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reincarnator07
07/17/24 1:50:00 PM
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You don't. Believing in ghosts is illogical. You can't logic someone out of a position that they didn't logic themselves into.

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R_Jackal
07/17/24 1:52:32 PM
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I've always been a fan of the explanation that considering they're completely intangible/incorporeal, there's nothing tying them to Earth, so even if they are real they're all likely lost in the vast darkness of space.
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Krojen
07/17/24 2:03:18 PM
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Ok tough guys lets see your mathematical framework for a theory of everything.

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DrizztLink
07/17/24 2:03:55 PM
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Krojen posted...
Ok tough guys lets see your mathematical framework for a theory of everything.
3+(3-x) = everything

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Robot2600
07/17/24 2:09:43 PM
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Krojen posted...
Ok tough guys lets see your mathematical framework for a theory of everything.

z -> z + c

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R1masher
07/17/24 2:12:58 PM
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Try speak good English toward her and she might get gist

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voldothegr8
07/17/24 2:14:04 PM
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Krojen posted...
Ok tough guys lets see your mathematical framework for a theory of everything.
1+1=3

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Krojen
07/17/24 2:49:11 PM
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I see we got Wolfram fans, complexity from simple rules. Nice work.

But srsly. I was a more confident logic man until I got thoroughly humbled by experiencing an irl ghost movie scene. Im just sayin.

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BlackOmnimon
07/17/24 3:10:09 PM
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Buy a Ouija board and challenge the devil/spirits to kill you, then point out it's not real when nothing happens.

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MajesticFerret
07/17/24 5:49:20 PM
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K181 posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/0/06ad4a1e.png

Oh, aliens are real af.

We have literal NASA photos where NASA admits to photoshopping s5ltuff and just casually drops the unedited versions with all sorts of weird stuff in it and literally says nothing. The Vatican has access to some of the most powerful telescopes in the world and then came out with statements like, "yo, we're not saying aliens exist, but if they do, they don't debunk god/the bible."

Yeah, oodles of evidence out there. Definately significantly more than the other stuff.

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Turbam
07/17/24 5:50:41 PM
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My ghost gf just told me to tell you to shut the fuck up

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