Board 8 > Rate the Ace Attorney character: Characters from 4-1 (feat. Kristopher Gavin)

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Bitto
06/21/24 8:22:17 PM
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Rules:

  1. Rate each character on a scale from 1 to 10 with 1 being the lowest and 10 being the highest. Anything above 10 gets rounded down to a 10, and anything below a 1 gets rounded up to a 1.
  2. Anything beyond one decimal point will be rounded accordingly: .04 and below will be rounded down, .05 and up will be rounded up.
  3. You may grade on any criteria you like.
  4. Consider the character's appearances throughout the entire Ace Attorney series.
  5. You can rate characters from previous topics if you miss a topic.
  6. On a day with multiple characters, clearly label which rating applies to which characters.
  7. On a day with multiple characters, you may skip a character to rate.
  8. Pretty much every character from Ace Attorney will be rated. The schedule will go in chronological game order in the West (with AAI2 being right after AAI just for consistency). When a character debuts and gets a major speaking role, they will show up (so Trucy appearing for a moment in 4-1 doesn't count as a 4-1 character). Major characters get their own day and minor characters are all ranked at once. All extremely minor characters (background, animals, mascots, and jury) will be rated on the final day.
  9. The "roles" listed are: Defense, Rival, Assistant, Detective, Judge, Victim, Defendant, Culprit, Witness, Background, Animal, Mascot, and Jury. Sorry, I'm not pointing out accomplices.


Spreadsheet w/ Full Previous Results and Schedule: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uNA5IlyThvd7dEY5dH4BQ3xLdghDnqKm0fsekmGnO7Y/edit?usp=sharing
Results and Discussion: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80783400

Previous Day's Results:

Iris - 8.1 (12 votes)
Bikini - 6.7 (11 votes)
Elise Deauxnim - 6.1 (9 votes)

Good scores all around for the OTs finale case. Iris scores rather high, Bikini does well enough, and Elise scores very high for a victim.

Character(s):

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Name: Kristoph Gavin
Game Appearances: AJ
Roles: Assistant, Culprit
Profile (Debut): [4-1] Boss at Gavin Law Offices. A first-rate defense attorney, and Apollo's trusted mentor.
Profile (Conclusion): [4-4] Incarcerated at the Central Penitentiary for the murder of Shadi Smith.

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Name: Shadi Smith
Game Appearances: AJ
Roles: Victim, Defendant
Profile (Debut): [4-1] The victim. A traveler, only recently back in-country.
Profile (Conclusion): [4-4] In reality, the magician Zak. Murdered at Russian eatery: the Borscht Bowl Club.
Alias: Zak Gramarye, Zak Enigmar

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Name: Olga Orly
Game Appearances: AJ
Roles: Witness
Profile: A professional swindler. Hired by the victim to destroy Phoenix Wright's reputation.

Easy Vote Form:

Kristoph:
Shadi:
Orly:

My ratings:

Kristoph: 7.2
Shadi: 1
Orly: 6.5

Kristoph is somewhat interesting. He kinda makes no sense but I also think that was the developers intention. I generally like his vibes and he has some neat moments, especially in 4-4.

Shadi is the worst character in the series. IYKYK.

Orly is a fun one-case witness. Both versions of her are enjoyable. It makes no sense that she gets hired by Shadi but I put that more on Shadi.

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greengravy294
06/21/24 8:31:02 PM
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Olga: 10

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hombad46
06/21/24 8:33:00 PM
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Kristoph: 5
Shadi: negative a billion. Or just 1
Orly: 6

Bitto posted...
Shadi is the worst character in the series.

except I'd go a step further and say he's my least favorite fictional character in anything ever

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MrSmartGuy
06/21/24 8:47:45 PM
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Kristoph: 5.5
Shadi: 2
Orly: 7

I can definitely see arguments for Shadi being the most deserving of a 1 in the entire series, but I think he's actually SO bad, it's actually funny. So I'll give him an extra pity point.

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Leonhart4
06/21/24 8:48:04 PM
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Kristoph Gavin: 7.5/10

Has the same problem Dahlia does in that he has to go down easily by necessity because it's the intro case. However, unlike Dahlia (and most other characters in AJ), they don't actually follow up on this plot thread. The twist that he's the culprit might be the best intro case twist in the series though.

Shadi Smith: 5/10

He epitomizes the problem with AJ's writing more than anyone else in the game. His actions make no sense, and for some reason, it feels like we're supposed to sympathize with him. I still give him 5/10 because "Zak Gramarye is a Jerk" is legendary. Maybe I shouldn't count it toward his score, but I am.

Olga Orly: 3/10

People seem to like her, but I don't get it. She thinks a clever trap is hiding a card in the pocket of a guy who always has his hands in his pockets.

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06/21/24 8:49:14 PM
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Kristoph: 4
Shadi: 6
Orly: 3

Zak is great if you treat him as just the worst person ever and not someone to sympathize with at all, but obviously his actions make no sense. Kristoph's actions are also insane, but he's supposed to be smart.

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hombad46
06/21/24 8:52:01 PM
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Anagram posted...
Zak is great if you treat him as just the worst person ever and not someone to sympathize with at all

That's exactly my problem with him. If the game just acknowledged him as the scumbag he is I wouldn't hate him nearly as much. Having his picture hung up in the office just feels insulting

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Strife2
06/21/24 8:52:22 PM
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Kristoph: 6
Shadi: 3
Orly: 4

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Janus5k
06/21/24 9:24:13 PM
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Kristoph: 5
Cool animations but kind of a dud as an actual culprit, especially considering he's meant to be the big bad of the game.

Jerk: 3
Objectively terrible but the comics are funny.

Orly: 6
Honestly felt like a twist that she wasn't the culprit. She's fun enough.

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WarThaNemesis2
06/21/24 9:37:18 PM
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Kristoph: 1
Shadi: 1
Orly: 6

Two of the stupidest characters in the series and a fun witness.

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BlueCrystalTear
06/21/24 9:58:32 PM
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I hardly even remember 4-1, and it's the only case in the game I played in full.

This thread is making me glad I didn't go on. Again.

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colliding
06/21/24 11:14:28 PM
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Kristoph: 4
Shadi: 4
Orly: 5

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Leonhart4
06/22/24 7:39:48 AM
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Oh really, Ms. Orly?

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Bitto
06/22/24 12:34:04 PM
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For the record, my favorite card game is this one; though, everyone I knew called it 13. I played this so much in middle school and high school.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ti%E1%BA%BFn_l%C3%AAn

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Lopen
06/22/24 12:39:55 PM
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Olga - 4

Don't feel like rating Kristoph as I didn't finish this game

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paulg235
06/22/24 12:47:06 PM
#16:


Apollo Justice: 9

Kristoph: 2
Shadi: 0
Orly: 5

If I was ranking them soley on their 4-1 appearance, Kristoph and Shadi would have gotten 8 and 3 respectively. But 4-4 solidified them as two of the worst characters in the series. I refuse to give Shadi even a 1, he was that bad. Kristoph at least has his breakdown that gives him a point (and another because without context he was a good first case culprit).

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Omniscientless
06/22/24 1:33:49 PM
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Kristoph: 3
Shadi: 1 (0 if possible)
Olga: 6

I'm more forgiving towards Kristoph because he's at least more interesting to interact with. Zak/Shadi has zero redeeming qualities, story-wise or character-wise. Olga's definitely the best part of this case, but her appearance is too brief to rate her much higher, methinks.

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KamikazePotato
06/22/24 2:40:26 PM
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Shadi: 0

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Leonhart4
06/22/24 5:20:13 PM
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Thanks for taking care of the daughter I pointlessly abandoned

Now I'm going to ruin your only means of supporting the daughter I pointlessly abandoned because you don't take magic seriously enough

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skulltrumpets
06/22/24 5:49:21 PM
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Kristoph: 8

I waffled on what to give him because he's a character that thrives on a cool presentation and little else. Sure, he's pointlessly petty and a lot of his plan doesn't make a whole lot of sense, but on the flip side we have shit like his god tier breakdown and the black psychelocks. Maybe it's because so much of this game is remarkably average, but he stands out well.

Shadi: 5

The only reason why he's not lower is that he's not one of those bad characters that are also annoying. If they didn't make him out to be such a sob story character he'd place higher tbh.

Orly: 7.5

Fun witness! Great design! She's definitely a promising highlight to this game, too bad she's followed up by one of the most annoying witnesses ever in the next case.
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Leonhart4
06/22/24 8:19:21 PM
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*levitates lobster*

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