Current Events > Spotify announces another price increase, despite record profits

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R_Jackal posted...

Welcome to the all digital future, where you'll pay every month to prop up a bunch of people you hate for pure convenience. And you'll continue to pay even more, and love it

I think you mean the future, just in general. Or rather, the present.

Bills, rent, mortgage, payments... Streaming subscriptions are really nothing new.

Considering it's where most people get their music now, I'm surprised it isn't way higher.

RetuenOfDevsman posted...

I think you mean the future, just in general. Or rather, the present.

Bills, rent, mortgage, payments... Streaming subscriptions are really nothing new.

I just don't. Aside from utilities and mandatory stuff. I do thank everyone else for for letting these corps have their way though, world is going great.

Glad I never stopped actually saving music to my PC.

Guide posted...

I keep my music in my own files, fuck spotify.

I have literally never seen a good reason to use Spotify

Even if I need to stream some music, I'll just use YouTube (not even "YouTube Music", I mean plain ol' YouTube)

SauI_Goodman posted...

I rip my music for free with library cds. Suckers!

I wonder if a good chunk of what I listen to is in the library catalogs.

The more annoying thing would be managing the music on my phone. I cannot do cardio at the gym without music.

I do find it funny whenever there are topics about streaming services how many people brag that they dont use them

good thing instead of having access to literally any song ever made I limit myself to whats available at the local library!

like I buy a ton of music, I have a combined 1500+ CDs and records but I still subscribe to streaming services because A) Im not tryna maintain terabytes of music files and B) I want to be able to listen to whatever I want, whenever I want

TheGoldenEel posted...

I do find it funny whenever there are topics about streaming services how many people brag that they dont use them

good thing instead of having access to literally any song ever made I limit myself to whats available at the local library!

like I buy a ton of music, I have a combined 1500+ CDs and records but I still subscribe to streaming services because A) Im not tryna maintain terabytes of music files and B) I want to be able to listen to whatever I want, whenever I want

I mean, that's valid if you listen to that much. But I'm personally not listening to TBs of music and there's myriad free ways to discover new artists.

I highly doubt most people listen to even 100gb of music total, let alone TBs of it.

Kradek posted...

Whenever I've tried to use it they didn't seem to. Only select songs available and as Daki mentioned on a shuffle system.

Like when I showed my friend Sleep Token, he looked them up on his phone's Spotify and there was only 5ish songs there (think it was mostly singles from the most recent album) and they've made 3 full albums.

It looks like there are three albums and a few various instrumental albums on Spotify right now for Sleep Token. Unless there are legal issues with a song, I've found Spotify generally has everything.

Yeah, I never owned physical music so that's a moot point. And having to download every song from youtube and label it is annoying.

TheGoldenEel posted...

I do find it funny whenever there are topics about streaming services how many people brag that they dont use them

good thing instead of having access to literally any song ever made I limit myself to whats available at the local library!

like I buy a ton of music, I have a combined 1500+ CDs and records but I still subscribe to streaming services because A) Im not tryna maintain terabytes of music files and B) I want to be able to listen to whatever I want, whenever I want

If you want keep paying that fine. And whether you use it or not you're paying for the library bud. Might as well make good use of it.

TheGoldenEel posted...

good thing instead of having access to literally any song ever made I limit myself to whats available at the local library!

I buy less than $15 worth of music a month and I can just go to YouTube and listen to whatever new music I want to listen to [unless I like it enough to buy a copy]. lol.

opopopza posted...

It looks like there are three albums and a few various instrumental albums on Spotify right now for Sleep Token. Unless there are legal issues with a song, I've found Spotify generally has everything.

Ok, I'm on it now. I think I know the previous mistake. When you look it up without actually selecting the band it gives random songs and recommendations for other bands. I clicked on an album and couldn't select any particular song, I just hit play and the first song it played is like #8 on the album. I see a list of the song titles on the album, however I can't click on them or anything. Just the play/pause button and the shuffle symbol next to it, which when I click on that says "Want to play songs in any order? Get Premium to play any song, any time"

So you have to get premium to deactivate the shuffle feature and to actually choose which song you want to listen to off the album apparently. That's pretty ass. I scrolled down on the page and it's just a clip and a tab for concerts.

First song just ended, immediately played 3 ads. While Youtube does have ads, I can often go 2-3 songs in a row without them throwing new ads in.

Next song played, I clicked the skip button just to see what would happen. A message pops up saying "you can skip 6 songs within an hour", the first song it skipped to was from the same album, the next song it skipped to was from a different album. What if I really just wanna listen to the same album on repeat (which is an actual habit of mine, especially with this band's most recent album, Take Me Back To Eden)?

This is the least user-friendly music app I've ever experienced.

Kradek posted...

What if I really just wanna listen to the same album on repeat

then you pay for a subscription?

like Spotify sucks but the fact that it isnt just straight up free isnt one of the reasons why

Well you see, it's because supply chain issues and them having to pay minimum wage workers more money now, so they just HAVE to raise prices... also this is Biden's fault because inflation!

Thanks Obama.

If their predicting new subscribers to decrease in the coming years then the only way to increase revenue then is by boosting the cost.

Sucks regardless for the users.

I knew subscription services were going to be a joke 15 years ago.

Now, pay what, 20 for youtube, 120 for amazon prime, 12 for spotify, 10 for hulu (with ads), 7 for netflix (with ads).... etc.

It's awesome that everything in life is now subscription based. Because everyone can afford it. It's amazing. Happy we live in this time.

Sayoria posted...

I knew subscription services were going to be a joke 15 years ago.

Now, pay what, 20 for youtube, 120 for amazon prime, 12 for spotify, 10 for hulu (with ads), 7 for netflix (with ads).... etc.

It's awesome that everything in life is now subscription based. Because everyone can afford it. It's amazing. Happy we live in this time.

legit only subscriptions I have are RuneScape membership and Nintendo Switch Online

Netflix is paid for by a relative >_>

Theyll keep raising costs until they start to see a reduction in profits. Thats just basic capitalism. I dont like it. If people feel that strongly vote with your wallets.

SHRlKE posted...

Theyll keep raising costs until they start to see a reduction in profits. Thats just basic capitalism. I dont like it. If people feel that strongly vote with your wallets.

HAH, like people have any form of self control or moderation to be able to do that these days.

SHRlKE posted...

Theyll keep raising costs until they start to see a reduction in profits. Thats just basic capitalism. I dont like it. If people feel that strongly vote with your wallets.

inb4VotingWithWalletsDoesn'tWork
inb4NoEthicalConsumptionUnderCapitalism

this is one such case where voting with your wallet is a very, very easy task to accomplish

R_Jackal posted...

HAH, like people have any form of self control or moderation to be able to do that these days.

Aye. Case in point

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/5147b7d7.jpg

I mean, it's dumb greedy bullshit, but Apple and Google aren't exactly bastions of pro-consumer sentiment either. Pick a streaming service, but don't try to attach morals to it.

Spotify has a ton of music and I've been using it for years, so I'm sticking with it until they do something extremely horrible.

FL81 posted...

inb4VotingWithWalletsDoesn'tWork
inb4NoEthicalConsumptionUnderCapitalism

this is one such case where voting with your wallet is a very, very easy task to accomplish

It really doesn't work though because not enough people will ever vote with their wallet. These are global corporations that have embedded themselves into our everyday lives. You're not going to get the world to agree on a protest over $1 price increases. The average person sees prices go up and just pays more. That's unfortunately how it is. The invisible hand of capitalism isn't going to course correct the economy on its own unless it literally collapses.

Imagine still using Spotify in 2024

Braindead CEO

Constant price hikes

Hundreds of millions to Joe fucking Rogan

Trumpo posted...

Pretty much every company does it

This. Plenty of businesses are making record-breaking profits, yet prices keep going up.

yay, capitalism?

HylianFox posted...

This. Plenty of businesses are making record-breaking profits, yet prices keep going up.

yay, capitalism?

Working exactly as intended

hockeybabe89 posted...

I mean, it's dumb greedy bullshit, but Apple and Google aren't exactly bastions of pro-consumer sentiment either. Pick a streaming service, but don't try to attach morals to it.

Spotify has a ton of music and I've been using it for years, so I'm sticking with it until they do something extremely horrible.

apple is at least paying artists 2.5x as much as Spotify and they havent cut off smaller artists from royalties entirely

switching streaming services to apple or tidal is like, the single lowest effort thing you can do to support artists you like

R_Jackal posted...

HAH, like people have any form of self control or moderation to be able to do that these days.

At a point they will. Not many people are going to be paying ten thousand dollars a month.

Sry4PartyRockin posted...

Imagine still using Spotify in 2024

Braindead CEO

Constant price hikes

Hundreds of millions to Joe fucking Rogan

Oh he is one of those. Definitely fuck that guy

RetuenOfDevsman posted...

At a point they will. Not many people are going to be paying ten thousand dollars a month.

Fighting back when you're past the point of no return isn't commendable, it's just a monument to the stupidity that allowed it to get that far.

RetuenOfDevsman posted...

The most expensive I ever remember buying was $20 for a two-disc set. Most expensive for a single disc was $18. Of course, that was this century. I dunno if they were more expensive in the 90's or if they were just cheaper where I used to get them (Walmart/Target).

Most of the time they were less than 20, but for some reason, CDs that werent a new release were a bit more expensive. I remember in 1999 getting the sugar ray album at specs and it was 22. It was for my 7th grade clase gift exchange. Adjusted for inflation thats probably close to 40 in todays money. Hence why spotify isnt a good deal for musicians.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/874b9a9d.jpg

Happy I dont subscribe to Spotify.

TheGoldenEel posted...

apple is at least paying artists 2.5x as much as Spotify and they havent cut off smaller artists from royalties entirely

switching streaming services to apple or tidal is like, the single lowest effort thing you can do to support artists you like

I already buy shit directly from artists I like.

hockeybabe89 posted...

I already buy shit directly from artists I like.

but you use Spotify

with almost no effort you could be using a platform that A) pays artists significantly better and B) isnt actively working towards paying them even less and C) pays all artists instead of just ones that reach some arbitrary threshold

and the services are functionally identical

Spotify is objectively, quantitatively worse than (most) other streaming services but you defend it with actually all corporations are bad type shit.

EDIT: should also note that apple and tidal have lossless audio so those services are actually quantitatively better

Look up xmanager Spotify

SomeGuyUO posted...

Look up xmanager Spotify

"Don't make us popular."

TheGoldenEel posted...

then you pay for a subscription?

And to that I say they can go fuck themselves.

Youtube doesn't for their free service and they don't have such asinine restrictions on how their product is used. I also refuse to ever pay for Spotify on principal because of their worship for Joe Rogan; fuck Joe Rogan.

TheGoldenEel posted...

like Spotify sucks but the fact that it isnt just straight up free isnt one of the reasons why

This is a weird interpretation of my thoroughly detailed post which you largely disregarded for a single statement explaining why I find Spotify so shitty and anti-user friendly. Literally the only way to use it in any way other than what they force upon you is to pay for it. Fuck them for that business model, they are essentially telling consumers to pay them or go fuck off, and so I choose to fuck off cause I refuse to pay for some Joe Rogan worshipping anti-user music app.

I thought I read somewhere that Spotify has never had a profitable year? Theyve had profitable quarters but overall they are losing money. I guess its the consequence of the corporate gimmick of focusing on quarterly performance without a long term (5-10 years) strategy

Rika_Furude posted...

I thought I read somewhere that Spotify has never had a profitable year? Theyve had profitable quarters but overall they are losing money. I guess its the consequence of the corporate gimmick of focusing on quarterly performance without a long term (5-10 years) strategy

i can't even imagine the scope of Spotify's copyrights. Their music catalogue is absolutely massive, they must pay a fortune to keep all of it