Current Events > Buying a car from a dealership still sucks so much

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I feel like the Pacifica's been around long enough that any concerning reliability issues would've been ironed out by now, plus could likely have them add on an extended warranty and still walk away saving a shitload vs new.

But I still understand wanting a new one for the extra peace of mind, I'm just a cheap bastard >_>

littlebro07 posted...

I feel like the Pacifica's been around long enough that any concerning reliability issues would've been ironed out by now, plus could likely have them add on an extended warranty and still walk away saving a shitload vs new.

But I still understand wanting a new one for the extra peace of mind, I'm just a cheap bastard >_>

The hybrid version specifically has some transmission issues on models built before 2023

i think there was a recall but its still not something Id want to deal with/worry about

I'll probably always buy used with no-haggle dealerships. Just bought a CR-V from a dealership via TrueCar and the appointment took about 1.5 hrs from entry to exit.

SauI_Goodman posted...

5,000 holy crap.
I've never paid more than 500 down

I put 10k down on mine lol

I knew I was gonna need to buy a better car sooner or later so I saved accordingly.

Blue_Thunder posted...

I'll probably always buy used with no-haggle dealerships. Just bought a CR-V from a dealership via TrueCar and the appointment took about 1.5 hrs from entry to exit.

I put 10k down on mine lol

I knew I was gonna need to buy a better car sooner or later so I saved accordingly.

Yeah, my last truck I did 4500. I had something with no payment and was just saving up for a bit. Setting aside what you'd be spending on a payment really adds up in a few months.

I get fleeced on Monday to the tune of $41,000 MSRP for a Toyota Camry XLE...

SauI_Goodman posted...

5,000 holy crap.
I've never paid more than 500 down

Im trying to buy a car in cash. Dealerships dont want to negotiate at all because they want people that finance.

I want to buy a new CR-V

MrAntisocial posted...

I get fleeced on Monday to the tune of $41,000 MSRP for a Toyota Camry XLE...

Why are you spending over 40 grand on a Camry???

I bought a car last November and the first dealership tried to play games when all I wanted to know was the out the door price of the vehicle. The dude wouldn't tell me any numbers until I agreed to at least test drive the vehicle and he kept on pulling the "what will it take for me to get you to walk out of here with this vehicle" speech until giving up. I left without getting any numbers

Second dealership experience started with a 5 minute phone convo where not only did I get the OTD price but also negotiated a bit using the price I got weeks later from dealership #1 after they kept blowing up my phone with prices for models/configurations I didn't want. Drove there and within a few minutes the dude took a pic of my ID, handed me keys, and told me to take as long as I needed to test drive the car by myself. So I ended up with that car that same day.

But I did still end up paying a slight markup even with the negotiation since the model I wanted (Lexus NX 450h+) was hard to find at the time especially in the color and trim that I wanted. I didn't compromise on what I wanted so I'm hoping to not have to go through that shit again for at least another decade.

My wife works at a dealership so I don't have to go through the runaround to get the best price but it still takes a while for all of the paperwork and whatnot to be completed.

It wasn't a new car, however me getting a used car from an official dealer was the best car buying experience I've ever had.

I hope the next one fares far better for you.

All of this unneeded stress like drivers licenses, insurance plans, registrations, dealerships, leasing, possible debt, credit scores, it's all bullshit and sucks that's the way life is.

MrAntisocial posted...

I get fleeced on Monday to the tune of $41,000 MSRP for a Toyota Camry XLE...

https://i.imgur.com/twMg7dv.jpg

Dealerships suck ass, but I'd rather buy a new car than an old one. My first car was a used car that wasn't even 9 years old when I got it and it ran into various issues the few years I owned it. My second car was bought new and I've had for about 18 years and it still runs rather well in part because I take of it and don't abuse it when I drive. I wouldn't gamble on a used car because of how rough and absent minded the average car owner is, especially with how expensive used cars are today.

Of course the best thing would be break up the old 1930s era laws on dealerships which gives them insane power.

MrAntisocial posted...

I get fleeced on Monday to the tune of $41,000 MSRP for a Toyota Camry XLE...

Does that include taxes or is the price because of all the overpriced addons?

Toyotas being marked up recently is a well known thing. A lot of stories online about salespeople not giving a shit about how they treat potential buyers because they know they're still gonna sell the cars regardless

One reason I went Lexus because up until a year ago I was on the Rav4 hype train. ~10k more for a lot less plastic and a smoother and quieter ride

Lexus NX is basically a RAV4. They ride on the exact same platform.

Yeah I know, which is why I mentioned what the difference was...

It's essentially a fine tuned and posh Rav4 that's heavier

Yeah a Lexus is basically just a Toyota with a 20-30k trim package. Camrys look like old Lexus sedans, the new Supra looks like the sporty Lexus cars, and the RAV4 is an old RX.

I like my old 2013 Camry though and Id get a Lexus if I could afford it

YellowSUV posted...

Does that include taxes or is the price because of all the overpriced addons?

It's a 2025 Toyota Camry XLE (first one that arrived at the dealership) with the premium package, all weather mats, and charging cables. So yes it's in part because of the add-ons. I wanted the premium package but that's about it. Taxes will make it more, but the financed amount isn't all that bad. I'll have it paid off within a year.

At least I can still say no to the deal since I haven't even tried it yet