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TheGoldenEel 05/28/24 8:57:17 PM #1:	at least nowadays everyone has a phone so you have something to do while youre sitting there waiting for them to run the numbers or some shit so fucking stupid that this process is still basically mandatory for a new car --- BLACK LIVES MATTER Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ <cite>TheGoldenEel posted [p:980601009] in Buying a c... [t:80778487]...</cite> <quote>at least nowadays everyone has a phone so you have something to do while youre sitting there waiting for them to run the numbers or some shitso fucking stupid that this process is still basically mandatory for a new car </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
argonautweakend 05/28/24 9:00:15 PM #2:	the worst part about buying a car is that if you don't haggle, you're gonna get hosed. The dealership expects people to haggle. The hagglers think they're getting some sort of huge deal, when the dealership is still coming out ahead, so this just makes it shittier for everybody else just trying to buy a car. I was at a local video game store the other day and I asked the guy if he had a USB rock band guitar. He did, and he wanted $100 for it. Now, first thing I did when i left is went to ebay and 50-75+ shipping is what they seem to be going for. But the man expects the haggle. Maybe I could have gotten it for 50 or 75 if I tried, but fuck that, he gets no sale. <cite>argonautweakend posted [p:980601062] in Buying a c... [t:80778487]...</cite> <quote>the worst part about buying a car is that if you don't haggle, you're gonna get hosed. The dealership expects people to haggle. The hagglers think they're getting some sort of huge deal, when the dealership is still coming out ahead, so this just makes it shittier for everybody else just trying to buy a car.I was at a local video game store the other day and I asked the guy if he had a USB rock band guitar. He did, and he wanted $100 for it. Now, first thing I did when i left is went to ebay and 50-75+ shipping is what they seem to be going for. But the man expects the haggle. Maybe I could have gotten it for 50 or 75 if I tried, but fuck that, he gets no sale.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yawn_Master2 05/28/24 9:01:51 PM #3:	argonautweakend posted... the worst part about buying a car is that if you don't haggle, you're gonna get hosed. The dealership expects people to haggle. The hagglers think they're getting some sort of huge deal, when the dealership is still coming out ahead, so this just makes it shittier for everybody else just trying to buy a car. I was at a local video game store the other day and I asked the guy if he had a USB rock band guitar. He did, and he wanted $100 for it. Now, first thing I did when i left is went to ebay and 50-75+ shipping is what they seem to be going for. But the man expects the haggle. Maybe I could have gotten it for 50 or 75 if I tried, but fuck that, he gets no sale. Car max has a no haggle policy. --- "Trying to define yourself is like trying to bite your own teeth." <cite>Yawn_Master2 posted [p:980601089] in Buying a c... [t:80778487]...</cite> <quote>argonautweakend posted... </cite><quote>the worst part about buying a car is that if you don't haggle, you're gonna get hosed. The dealership expects people to haggle. The hagglers think they're getting some sort of huge deal, when the dealership is still coming out ahead, so this just makes it shittier for everybody else just trying to buy a car.I was at a local video game store the other day and I asked the guy if he had a USB rock band guitar. He did, and he wanted $100 for it. Now, first thing I did when i left is went to ebay and 50-75+ shipping is what they seem to be going for. But the man expects the haggle. Maybe I could have gotten it for 50 or 75 if I tried, but fuck that, he gets no sale.</quote>Car max has a no haggle policy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SauI_Goodman 05/28/24 9:02:33 PM #4:	Does car max have new cars? --- Italian, French, German. <cite>SauI_Goodman posted [p:980601096] in Buying a c... [t:80778487]...</cite> <quote>Does car max have new cars? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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argonautweakend 05/28/24 9:03:19 PM #6:	Good, I like that. <cite>argonautweakend posted [p:980601123] in Buying a c... [t:80778487]...</cite> <quote>Good, I like that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 05/28/24 9:11:13 PM #7:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Man, few years ago when I bought my house my mom kept asking me I wanted to just drive around neighborhoods I liked and see if houses were for sale. Then recently when I bought my new truck was like "How do you know what you want if you don't go to dealerships and look?!" Lol But yeah, 2 professions that will probably go away in years to come. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:980601231] in Buying a c... [t:80778487]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Man, few years ago when I bought my house my mom kept asking me I wanted to just drive around neighborhoods I liked and see if houses were for sale. Then recently when I bought my new truck was like "How do you know what you want if you don't go to dealerships and look?!" LolBut yeah, 2 professions that will probably go away in years to come. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 05/28/24 9:12:40 PM #8:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] does your area not use real estate agents anymore? You cant even get an apartment here without paying a broker an entire month fee --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:980601257] in Buying a c... [t:80778487]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> does your area not use real estate agents anymore? You cant even get an apartment here without paying a broker an entire month fee </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGoldenEel 05/28/24 9:16:26 PM #9:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] i read an article recently about, among archer things, how dealerships are an extremely powerful lobbying group and theyve gotten a lot of laws to be written specifically to protect themselves https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/05/rich-republicans-party-car-dealers-2024-desantis.html --- BLACK LIVES MATTER Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ <cite>TheGoldenEel posted [p:980601323] in Buying a c... [t:80778487]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> i read an article recently about, among archer things, how dealerships are an extremely powerful lobbying group and theyve gotten a lot of laws to be written specifically to protect themselveshttps://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/05/rich-republicans-party-car-dealers-2024-desantis.html </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGoldenEel 05/28/24 9:18:14 PM #10:	argonautweakend posted... the worst part about buying a car is that if you don't haggle, you're gonna get hosed. The dealership expects people to haggle. The hagglers think they're getting some sort of huge deal, when the dealership is still coming out ahead, so this just makes it shittier for everybody else just trying to buy a car. i was haggling against my wife too lol we had a price for a white car that was on the lot, and the same car that was at an affiliated dealership an hour away in black for $1000 more guy said hed knock an extra $1000 off the white car if we took and my wife was like nah $2k isnt enough to take the white car smh EDIT: to be clear I didnt want a white car either but I dont $2000 care about it --- BLACK LIVES MATTER Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ <cite>TheGoldenEel posted [p:980601356] in Buying a c... [t:80778487]...</cite> <quote>argonautweakend posted... </cite><quote>the worst part about buying a car is that if you don't haggle, you're gonna get hosed. The dealership expects people to haggle. The hagglers think they're getting some sort of huge deal, when the dealership is still coming out ahead, so this just makes it shittier for everybody else just trying to buy a car.</quote>i was haggling against my wife too lolwe had a price for a white car that was on the lot, and the same car that was at an affiliated dealership an hour away in black for $1000 moreguy said hed knock an extra $1000 off the white car if we took and my wife was like nah $2k isnt enough to take the white car smhEDIT: to be clear I didnt want a white car either but I dont $2000 care about it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kelemvor 05/28/24 9:23:29 PM #11:	My last dealer experience wasn't too bad, We got a brand new, loaded Durango R/T in 2020 for right at $50K I think. But they beat us up in the financing office, I thought I was waving most of the "bloat" they try to tack on but he snuck in a few things. When I look back at how everything played out he was definitely shifty about how he was selling things. However, I ended up doing well in the end by buying the 10 oil change package. Right after the pandemic everything shot up in price and I definitely made my money back on that. <cite>kelemvor posted [p:980601449] in Buying a c... [t:80778487]...</cite> <quote>My last dealer experience wasn't too bad, We got a brand new, loaded Durango R/T in 2020 for right at $50K I think. But they beat us up in the financing office, I thought I was waving most of the "bloat" they try to tack on but he snuck in a few things. When I look back at how everything played out he was definitely shifty about how he was selling things.However, I ended up doing well in the end by buying the 10 oil change package. Right after the pandemic everything shot up in price and I definitely made my money back on that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solid_Sonic 05/28/24 9:35:15 PM #14:	I didn't haggle on the price for my current car because I knew the BB value walking in the door. I knew the posted price was just right for what the car I was interested in was. Rather what I did was make sure they covered certain things pro bono and gave me the best possible warranty at a steep discount. It was actually a pretty good deal, the warranty has come through for me on several occasions (much to my surprise, honestly). --- Anyone who doesn't agree is part of the problem. <cite>Solid_Sonic posted [p:980601578] in Buying a c... [t:80778487]...</cite> <quote>I didn't haggle on the price for my current car because I knew the BB value walking in the door. I knew the posted price was just right for what the car I was interested in was. Rather what I did was make sure they covered certain things pro bono and gave me the best possible warranty at a steep discount.It was actually a pretty good deal, the warranty has come through for me on several occasions (much to my surprise, honestly). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
littlebro07 05/28/24 9:38:33 PM #15:	SauI_Goodman posted... Does car max have new cars? Not brand new zero owner cars, but they do have plenty of 2023-2024 models. Carmax and Carvana vehicles cost like 1-2k more than you could get the same car for at a traditional dealership but IMO that shits worth it because theres no surprises or wasted time. Price you see is what you pay. Simple as that. I bought my current car through Carvana. Was sitting in my recliner rocking my daughter to sleep and pulled up the app, found the car I wanted, and in less than 15 minutes I had it ordered, loan approved, and set for delivery in my driveway a few days later. They have a seven day no questions asked return policy too so you can schedule a complete inspection while waiting on delivery to make sure its not a piece of shit. I probably wont ever buy from a traditional dealership again - havent ever spent less than six hours in one and I always leave feeling like I got a shitty deal. --- https://i.imgtc.com/MGGa6Os.gif <cite>littlebro07 posted [p:980601615] in Buying a c... [t:80778487]...</cite> <quote>SauI_Goodman posted... </cite><quote>Does car max have new cars?</quote>Not brand new zero owner cars, but they do have plenty of 2023-2024 models.Carmax and Carvana vehicles cost like 1-2k more than you could get the same car for at a traditional dealership but IMO that shits worth it because theres no surprises or wasted time. Price you see is what you pay. Simple as that. I bought my current car through Carvana. Was sitting in my recliner rocking my daughter to sleep and pulled up the app, found the car I wanted, and in less than 15 minutes I had it ordered, loan approved, and set for delivery in my driveway a few days later. They have a seven day no questions asked return policy too so you can schedule a complete inspection while waiting on delivery to make sure its not a piece of shit. I probably wont ever buy from a traditional dealership again - havent ever spent less than six hours in one and I always leave feeling like I got a shitty deal. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GeminiDeus 05/28/24 9:41:36 PM #16:	I managed to get a 2017 Ford Focus for $8500 back in November, which is about $1000 more than what I paid for my 1998 Toyota Corolla in 2006, so I guess that isn't too bad? --- Without truth, there is nothing. <cite>GeminiDeus posted [p:980601646] in Buying a c... [t:80778487]...</cite> <quote>I managed to get a 2017 Ford Focus for $8500 back in November, which is about $1000 more than what I paid for my 1998 Toyota Corolla in 2006, so I guess that isn't too bad? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TerraSeeker 05/28/24 9:45:42 PM #17:	Yeah, it sucked getting mine. By the time he brought back the numbers I had been there hours and just wanted to be out of there. I am already an agreeable person, so I expect to get what I asked for and nothing more. --- Your words are as empty as your soul <cite>TerraSeeker posted [p:980601700] in Buying a c... [t:80778487]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, it sucked getting mine. By the time he brought back the numbers I had been there hours and just wanted to be out of there. I am already an agreeable person, so I expect to get what I asked for and nothing more. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGoldenEel 05/28/24 9:46:16 PM #18:	littlebro07 posted... Not brand new zero owner cars, but they do have plenty of 2023-2024 models. Carmax and Carvana vehicles cost like 1-2k more than you could get the same car for at a traditional dealership but IMO that shits worth it because theres no surprises or wasted time. Price you see is what you pay. Simple as that. I bought my current car through Carvana. Was sitting in my recliner rocking my daughter to sleep and pulled up the app, found the car I wanted, and in less than 15 minutes I had it ordered, loan approved, and set for delivery in my driveway a few days later. They have a seven day no questions asked return policy too so you can schedule a complete inspection while waiting on delivery to make sure its not a piece of shit. I probably wont ever buy from a traditional dealership again - havent ever spent less than six hours in one and I always leave feeling like I got a shitty deal. We bought from Carvana for the car were replacing now, and it was great! but they dont have what we want now (Pacifica PHEV) --- BLACK LIVES MATTER Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ <cite>TheGoldenEel posted [p:980601709] in Buying a c... [t:80778487]...</cite> <quote>littlebro07 posted... </cite><quote>Not brand new zero owner cars, but they do have plenty of 2023-2024 models.Carmax and Carvana vehicles cost like 1-2k more than you could get the same car for at a traditional dealership but IMO that shits worth it because theres no surprises or wasted time. Price you see is what you pay. Simple as that. I bought my current car through Carvana. Was sitting in my recliner rocking my daughter to sleep and pulled up the app, found the car I wanted, and in less than 15 minutes I had it ordered, loan approved, and set for delivery in my driveway a few days later. They have a seven day no questions asked return policy too so you can schedule a complete inspection while waiting on delivery to make sure its not a piece of shit. I probably wont ever buy from a traditional dealership again - havent ever spent less than six hours in one and I always leave feeling like I got a shitty deal.</quote>We bought from Carvana for the car were replacing now, and it was great! but they dont have what we want now (Pacifica PHEV) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PowerMan5000000 05/28/24 9:46:58 PM #19:	How much will your car payment be? $400 $500 $700??? --- Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? Galatians 4:16 <cite>PowerMan5000000 posted [p:980601728] in Buying a c... [t:80778487]...</cite> <quote>How much will your car payment be?$400$500$700??? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheGoldenEel 05/28/24 9:49:34 PM #21:	PowerMan5000000 posted... How much will your car payment be? $400 $500 $700??? We havent nailed down the financing yet but probably something like $500-600 car came to $50k, with a $20k trade-in and $5k down Ill probably pay it off early like I did my other car --- BLACK LIVES MATTER Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ <cite>TheGoldenEel posted [p:980601751] in Buying a c... [t:80778487]...</cite> <quote>PowerMan5000000 posted... </cite><quote>How much will your car payment be?$400$500$700???</quote>We havent nailed down the financing yet but probably something like $500-600car came to $50k, with a $20k trade-in and $5k downIll probably pay it off early like I did my other car </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
electricbugs2 05/28/24 9:53:33 PM #22:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Uh, yeah, that's a no on both lmao. Anyway on topic, shitty dealerships seem to be a commuter car thing. Big reason why I switched to German and never looked back. None of those slimy Family Guy style salesman because they make enough on sales without having to screw around. --- Balenciaga hoodies and Gucci shoes #FreeMelly <cite>electricbugs2 posted [p:980601794] in Buying a c... [t:80778487]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Uh, yeah, that's a no on both lmao.Anyway on topic, shitty dealerships seem to be a commuter car thing. Big reason why I switched to German and never looked back. None of those slimy Family Guy style salesman because they make enough on sales without having to screw around. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
emblem-man 05/28/24 9:54:33 PM #23:	I've never actually dealt with an actual dealership before. I used my parents old car until I got a Tesla back in 2020. And that just included doing a $100 down payment when ordering online, then going to pick it up a few weeks later --- http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/emblem%20boy/avatar-body.png haters gonna hate <cite>emblem-man posted [p:980601803] in Buying a c... [t:80778487]...</cite> <quote>I've never actually dealt with an actual dealership before. I used my parents old car until I got a Tesla back in 2020. And that just included doing a $100 down payment when ordering online, then going to pick it up a few weeks later </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
littlebro07 05/28/24 9:55:47 PM #24:	electricbugs2 posted... Uh, yeah, that's a no on both lmao. Anyway on topic, shitty dealerships seem to be a commuter car thing. Big reason why I switched to German and never looked back. None of those slimy Family Guy style salesman because they make enough on sales without having to screw around. This is a fair point. All of the new cars Ive ever bought were from a Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep/RAM dealer and a Kia/Nissan dealer lol All of those brands will approve anyone with a pulse to get into a car. Maybe when I get rich enough Ill check out the Mercedes dealer one day My best friend drives a Passat he got new in 2018 and said that was the best dealer experience hed had so maybe its just German brands in general are better dealership experiences --- https://i.imgtc.com/MGGa6Os.gif <cite>littlebro07 posted [p:980601817] in Buying a c... [t:80778487]...</cite> <quote>electricbugs2 posted... </cite><quote>Uh, yeah, that's a no on both lmao.Anyway on topic, shitty dealerships seem to be a commuter car thing. Big reason why I switched to German and never looked back. None of those slimy Family Guy style salesman because they make enough on sales without having to screw around.</quote>This is a fair point. All of the new cars Ive ever bought were from a Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep/RAM dealer and a Kia/Nissan dealer lol All of those brands will approve anyone with a pulse to get into a car. Maybe when I get rich enough Ill check out the Mercedes dealer one day My best friend drives a Passat he got new in 2018 and said that was the best dealer experience hed had so maybe its just German brands in general are better dealership experiences </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Waddlez 05/28/24 9:59:49 PM #25:	Why would real estate agents go away? I understand there's that change in commission thing. But people still need to buy and sell houses. If real estate agents go away, how do people buy houses? Or sell? I'm genuinely asking. --- http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ll36rxs0DB1qhmn4do1_400.gif http://img4.joyreactor.com/pics/post/gif-cats-kitten-box-366664.gif <cite>Waddlez posted [p:980601865] in Buying a c... [t:80778487]...</cite> <quote>Why would real estate agents go away? I understand there's that change in commission thing. But people still need to buy and sell houses. If real estate agents go away, how do people buy houses? Or sell? I'm genuinely asking. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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electricbugs2 05/28/24 10:01:36 PM #27:	littlebro07 posted... Maybe when I get rich enough Ill check out the Mercedes dealer one day My best friend drives a Passat he got new in 2018 and said that was the best dealer experience hed had so maybe its just German brands in general are better dealership experiences Currently on my second Mercedes and third German car overall. So much better to deal with. Not sure about elsewhere but the dealership near me hires salesmen that either have business school backgrounds, or former high level athletes who are trained to deal with the public. --- Balenciaga hoodies and Gucci shoes #FreeMelly <cite>electricbugs2 posted [p:980601889] in Buying a c... [t:80778487]...</cite> <quote>littlebro07 posted... </cite><quote>Maybe when I get rich enough Ill check out the Mercedes dealer one day My best friend drives a Passat he got new in 2018 and said that was the best dealer experience hed had so maybe its just German brands in general are better dealership experiences</quote>Currently on my second Mercedes and third German car overall. So much better to deal with.Not sure about elsewhere but the dealership near me hires salesmen that either have business school backgrounds, or former high level athletes who are trained to deal with the public. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PowerMan5000000 05/28/24 10:02:34 PM #28:	TheGoldenEel posted... We havent nailed down the financing yet but probably something like $500-600 car came to $50k, with a $20k trade-in and $5k down Ill probably pay it off early like I did my other car Is that for a cool sports car or a fucking truck? --- Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? Galatians 4:16 <cite>PowerMan5000000 posted [p:980601903] in Buying a c... [t:80778487]...</cite> <quote>TheGoldenEel posted... </cite><quote>We havent nailed down the financing yet but probably something like $500-600car came to $50k, with a $20k trade-in and $5k downIll probably pay it off early like I did my other car</quote>Is that for a cool sports car or a fucking truck? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheGoldenEel 05/28/24 10:03:35 PM #30:	PowerMan5000000 posted... Is that for a cool sports car or a fucking truck? TheGoldenEel posted... (Pacifica PHEV) --- BLACK LIVES MATTER Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ <cite>TheGoldenEel posted [p:980601918] in Buying a c... [t:80778487]...</cite> <quote>PowerMan5000000 posted... </cite><quote>Is that for a cool sports car or a fucking truck?</quote>TheGoldenEel posted... </cite><quote>(Pacifica PHEV)</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Waddlez 05/28/24 10:06:14 PM #31:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] So if you don't pay a real estate agent to handle the paperwork, who does it? The individual? Sounds difficult. --- http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ll36rxs0DB1qhmn4do1_400.gif http://img4.joyreactor.com/pics/post/gif-cats-kitten-box-366664.gif <cite>Waddlez posted [p:980601953] in Buying a c... [t:80778487]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> So if you don't pay a real estate agent to handle the paperwork, who does it? The individual? Sounds difficult. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGoldenEel 05/28/24 10:06:44 PM #32:	btw Im totally thrilled to be driving a minivan again. Minivans rule i drove one all through my 20s bc my job provided me with one for work and personal use. It was so damn convenient for road trips, moving furniture, etc we got an SUV as a compromise when I quit that job and my wife didnt want me driving a minivan, but now with 2 kids and the strollers and all the shit you have to carry around with 2 kids it just makes sense --- BLACK LIVES MATTER Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ <cite>TheGoldenEel posted [p:980601962] in Buying a c... [t:80778487]...</cite> <quote>btw Im totally thrilled to be driving a minivan again. Minivans rulei drove one all through my 20s bc my job provided me with one for work and personal use. It was so damn convenient for road trips, moving furniture, etcwe got an SUV as a compromise when I quit that job and my wife didnt want me driving a minivan, but now with 2 kids and the strollers and all the shit you have to carry around with 2 kids it just makes sense </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
electricbugs2 05/28/24 10:06:57 PM #33:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] I'm assuming this is a US exclusive thing. I'm the assistant manager of a real estate office in Canada and we're expanding, not shrinking. Not to mention blue hairs aren't going to buy anything if ROB the Robot is trying to sell it to them. [LFAQs-redacted-quote] You really think that companies are just going to let some yahoo test drive their cars without someone there? Lawsuits being filed means very little if they don't go anywhere. I think judging by your post language that you think AI is quite a bit further along than it actually is. It's getting there, but having played with several of them, if you tried to get them to sell expensive shit it wouldn't work worth shit. They can't even figure out knock knock jokes yet. --- Balenciaga hoodies and Gucci shoes #FreeMelly <cite>electricbugs2 posted [p:980601964] in Buying a c... [t:80778487]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> I'm assuming this is a US exclusive thing. I'm the assistant manager of a real estate office in Canada and we're expanding, not shrinking. Not to mention blue hairs aren't going to buy anything if ROB the Robot is trying to sell it to them.<cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> You really think that companies are just going to let some yahoo test drive their cars without someone there? Lawsuits being filed means very little if they don't go anywhere.I think judging by your post language that you think AI is quite a bit further along than it actually is. It's getting there, but having played with several of them, if you tried to get them to sell expensive shit it wouldn't work worth shit. They can't even figure out knock knock jokes yet. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nirvanas_Nox 05/28/24 10:34:00 PM #35:	Me and my fianc just got a new car through carvana. Was happy we didn't have to go to a dealership and we got a super good deal on a 2021 VW Tiguan with only 34k miles on it. Only person we had to talk to was the guy who dropped off the car. --- Kee Oth Rama Pancake <cite>Nirvanas_Nox posted [p:980602327] in Buying a c... [t:80778487]...</cite> <quote>Me and my fianc just got a new car through carvana. Was happy we didn't have to go to a dealership and we got a super good deal on a 2021 VW Tiguan with only 34k miles on it. Only person we had to talk to was the guy who dropped off the car. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SF_Okami 05/28/24 10:42:44 PM #36:	I briefly worked in cars and I know how to get the best possible deal. If you are not ready to take the car home today, dont run the numbers. Dealerships love same day pickups. Only get serious when you are 100% ready. Come in with a price in mind for the car you want. Give them your card and say if they can hit the number, its an automatic buy. If they come back and say they really cant hit the number, then you know they cant. Get a definitive amount to the cent of what you need to come in with when you pick up the car. A common scam is you pay the first month of the car, and then when you pick it up they try to explain that you pay the first month now, even though you already did. This at least was what I observed when working there. This is what seemed to have the most success for customers. This is all new car sales btw --- ~Bird Pokemon Master~ Latest Pickup: YEEZY PODS <cite>SF_Okami posted [p:980602457] in Buying a c... [t:80778487]...</cite> <quote>I briefly worked in cars and I know how to get the best possible deal.If you are not ready to take the car home today, dont run the numbers. Dealerships love same day pickups. Only get serious when you are 100% ready.Come in with a price in mind for the car you want. Give them your card and say if they can hit the number, its an automatic buy. If they come back and say they really cant hit the number, then you know they cant. Get a definitive amount to the cent of what you need to come in with when you pick up the car. A common scam is you pay the first month of the car, and then when you pick it up they try to explain that you pay the first month now, even though you already did. This at least was what I observed when working there. This is what seemed to have the most success for customers. This is all new car sales btw </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Makeveli_lives 05/28/24 10:51:39 PM #37:	Waddlez posted... Why would real estate agents go away? I understand there's that change in commission thing. But people still need to buy and sell houses. If real estate agents go away, how do people buy houses? Or sell? I'm genuinely asking. They set up customers and visits and get it listed on websites and such. Like imagine if eBay fees were a person and thats what they do essentially is be the platform that exposes you to a wider market. But you can sell without one easily and stick with just the real estate lawyer instead and keep what wouldve been the real estate agents commission. In this day and age thats tens of thousands of dollars extra in your pocket instead of the agent at these home prices. Itll be taxed surely but still. Like selling a house for 400k means the commission for an agent is 20k at the average rate of 5 percent, so youre losing that much for them to handle the sale. --- Switch FC: SW-3917-4425-6106 PSN: PiKappaPhi769 <cite>Makeveli_lives posted [p:980602575] in Buying a c... [t:80778487]...</cite> <quote>Waddlez posted... </cite><quote>Why would real estate agents go away? I understand there's that change in commission thing. But people still need to buy and sell houses. If real estate agents go away, how do people buy houses? Or sell? I'm genuinely asking.</quote>They set up customers and visits and get it listed on websites and such. Like imagine if eBay fees were a person and thats what they do essentially is be the platform that exposes you to a wider market. But you can sell without one easily and stick with just the real estate lawyer instead and keep what wouldve been the real estate agents commission. In this day and age thats tens of thousands of dollars extra in your pocket instead of the agent at these home prices. Itll be taxed surely but still. Like selling a house for 400k means the commission for an agent is 20k at the average rate of 5 percent, so youre losing that much for them to handle the sale. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krojen 05/28/24 11:00:14 PM #38:	Definitely dont miss the dealerships since going Tesla. The weeks spent haggling, the ripoff maintenance prices, getting the runaround on recalls. --- http://i.imgur.com/hI4hAMb.jpg <cite>Krojen posted [p:980602680] in Buying a c... [t:80778487]...</cite> <quote>Definitely dont miss the dealerships since going Tesla. The weeks spent haggling, the ripoff maintenance prices, getting the runaround on recalls. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSuperSilver 05/28/24 11:01:23 PM #39:	I dunno, I just bought a new car from my local Acura dealership and it was a pretty painless experience. Was able to knock a few Gs off the list price of the car I wanted and the folks I dealt with were nice. --- When it is obvious that the goals cannot be reached, don't adjust the goals, adjust the action steps. - Confucius <cite>TheSuperSilver posted [p:980602702] in Buying a c... [t:80778487]...</cite> <quote>I dunno, I just bought a new car from my local Acura dealership and it was a pretty painless experience. Was able to knock a few Gs off the list price of the car I wanted and the folks I dealt with were nice. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrAntisocial 05/28/24 11:11:58 PM #40:	I'm buying a Toyota this week. They're pretty much trying to follow Tesla's lead regarding how they sell and their price transparency. Even knowing the final out the door price and not paying any markups nor fees other than a relatively small doc fee, and getting a much better trade in value than other dealerships were offering, it still feels like I'm getting a bad deal due to my previous experiences with dealerships. --- [insert signature here] <cite>MrAntisocial posted [p:980602874] in Buying a c... [t:80778487]...</cite> <quote>I'm buying a Toyota this week. They're pretty much trying to follow Tesla's lead regarding how they sell and their price transparency. Even knowing the final out the door price and not paying any markups nor fees other than a relatively small doc fee, and getting a much better trade in value than other dealerships were offering, it still feels like I'm getting a bad deal due to my previous experiences with dealerships. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bigblu89 05/28/24 11:26:45 PM #41:	Going in blind, you will get taken advantage of. The biggest negotiation power you have is your willingness to walk away if the number isnt exactly what you want, assuming youre not desperate for a car. --- You gotta laugh. That is the one thing at the end of your life you will not wish you did less of. <cite>bigblu89 posted [p:980603095] in Buying a c... [t:80778487]...</cite> <quote>Going in blind, you will get taken advantage of. The biggest negotiation power you have is your willingness to walk away if the number isnt exactly what you want, assuming youre not desperate for a car. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Makeveli_lives 05/29/24 12:10:38 AM #42:	MrAntisocial posted... I'm buying a Toyota this week. They're pretty much trying to follow Tesla's lead regarding how they sell and their price transparency. Even knowing the final out the door price and not paying any markups nor fees other than a relatively small doc fee, and getting a much better trade in value than other dealerships were offering, it still feels like I'm getting a bad deal due to my previous experiences with dealerships. Must not be in demand then. --- Switch FC: SW-3917-4425-6106 PSN: PiKappaPhi769 <cite>Makeveli_lives posted [p:980603597] in Buying a c... [t:80778487]...</cite> <quote>MrAntisocial posted... </cite><quote>I'm buying a Toyota this week. They're pretty much trying to follow Tesla's lead regarding how they sell and their price transparency. Even knowing the final out the door price and not paying any markups nor fees other than a relatively small doc fee, and getting a much better trade in value than other dealerships were offering, it still feels like I'm getting a bad deal due to my previous experiences with dealerships.</quote>Must not be in demand then. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SauI_Goodman 05/29/24 1:23:14 PM #43:	5,000 holy crap. I've never paid more than 500 down --- Italian, French, German. <cite>SauI_Goodman posted [p:980609759] in Buying a c... [t:80778487]...</cite> <quote>5,000 holy crap.I've never paid more than 500 down </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
littlebro07 05/29/24 1:32:49 PM #44:	I miss the mid-2010s where if you had decent credit you could go lease a brand new car for like $200-250 a month with nothing down. Nothing too fancy of course but shit even a basic ass car like a Kia Rio will be $350+ a month with money down these days. --- https://i.imgtc.com/MGGa6Os.gif <cite>littlebro07 posted [p:980609870] in Buying a c... [t:80778487]...</cite> <quote>I miss the mid-2010s where if you had decent credit you could go lease a brand new car for like $200-250 a month with nothing down.Nothing too fancy of course but shit even a basic ass car like a Kia Rio will be $350+ a month with money down these days. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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theAteam 05/29/24 1:42:42 PM #46:	I've bought 2 cars from different companies/dealers in the last year and the common denominator between the two was that the financing office is where you get shafted the hardest. You'll have a car at a price you're fine with and then you go in thinking you'll sign the papers and they hand you a laptop that asks you about your driving habits and then they hard sell you on upgrades or packages using your own answers against you ("you said you drive on gravel sometimes so you definitely need our protective coating, wouldn't want your paint dinged would you?") If you can get past that part it's not bad at all imo at least compared to like 10+ years ago. --- Buffalo Bills <cite>theAteam posted [p:980609986] in Buying a c... [t:80778487]...</cite> <quote>I've bought 2 cars from different companies/dealers in the last year and the common denominator between the two was that the financing office is where you get shafted the hardest. You'll have a car at a price you're fine with and then you go in thinking you'll sign the papers and they hand you a laptop that asks you about your driving habits and then they hard sell you on upgrades or packages using your own answers against you ("you said you drive on gravel sometimes so you definitely need our protective coating, wouldn't want your paint dinged would you?")If you can get past that part it's not bad at all imo at least compared to like 10+ years ago. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bknight 05/29/24 1:47:47 PM #47:	Went to the dealership because they were advertising a $99/month lease on their website. Texted with the sales person to make sure it was available. Test drove it, told them I'd take it. They showed me the numbers, minimal fees. They ran credit, paid the first month, tax, title etc on a credit card for the points, they didn't charge a fee for that. Out of there in 3 hours. <cite>bknight posted [p:980610063] in Buying a c... [t:80778487]...</cite> <quote>Went to the dealership because they were advertising a $99/month lease on their website. Texted with the sales person to make sure it was available. Test drove it, told them I'd take it. They showed me the numbers, minimal fees. They ran credit, paid the first month, tax, title etc on a credit card for the points, they didn't charge a fee for that. Out of there in 3 hours.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PoopPotato 05/29/24 2:12:30 PM #48:	Bought my wife's car at a no haggle dealership. Got a good deal on it. They were up front and honest - car had been stolen and was recovered, no damage. We test drove it twice and then bought it. Paperwork still took a couple of hours, but there was absolutely no pressure and no feelings of being shafted. --- http://i.minus.com/i5EWBMXTN4ERv.gif <cite>PoopPotato posted [p:980610421] in Buying a c... [t:80778487]...</cite> <quote>Bought my wife's car at a no haggle dealership. Got a good deal on it. They were up front and honest - car had been stolen and was recovered, no damage. We test drove it twice and then bought it. Paperwork still took a couple of hours, but there was absolutely no pressure and no feelings of being shafted. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PowerMan5000000 05/29/24 10:03:15 PM #49:	I would go used, less than half the MSRP of the newest model v https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/0/046d0224.jpg --- Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? Galatians 4:16 <cite>PowerMan5000000 posted [p:980616648] in Buying a c... [t:80778487]...</cite> <quote>I would go used, less than half the MSRP of the newest model vhttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/0/046d0224.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGoldenEel 05/29/24 10:33:51 PM #50:	PowerMan5000000 posted... I would go used, less than half the MSRP of the newest model v https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/0/046d0224.jpg I've read about reliability issues that would make me uncomfortable with buying an older used model, especially one with 67k miles in just a couple years also the new purchase qualifies for a $7500 credit that comes off the MSRP. there's smaller credit on used vehicles but there are more stipulations on qualifying for that one --- BLACK LIVES MATTER Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ <cite>TheGoldenEel posted [p:980617031] in Buying a c... [t:80778487]...</cite> <quote>PowerMan5000000 posted... </cite><quote>I would go used, less than half the MSRP of the newest model vhttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/0/046d0224.jpg</quote>I've read about reliability issues that would make me uncomfortable with buying an older used model, especially one with 67k miles in just a couple yearsalso the new purchase qualifies for a $7500 credit that comes off the MSRP. there's smaller credit on used vehicles but there are more stipulations on qualifying for that one </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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