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Conservatives thoroughly disgust me in a way I can't easily put into words. This is just barbaric cruelty

No one who says this...

deoxxys posted...

If you really want, you can find I have always supported abortion.

Says this...

deoxxys posted...

Always been very pro-abortion.

DnDer posted...

Then vote for Biden.

That is literally the choice in this election. Third party bullshit has no place in the discussion when democracy is on the line.

So what you're saying is, to protect Democracy we need to reject Democracy? Because what I'm doing is Democracy in action.

deoxxys posted...

Thanks for the extra context. Looking back at that, It was kind of insensitive. But I know why I made that comment now. I was tired of reading exaggerated responses (a buildup across many topics) that act like It's going to be so bad that it will be like we are going to start living in a dystopian cyberpunk hell hole where fear rules the streets, yatta yatta.

Dude, it wasn't exaggerated. If people were actually acting like we were going to start living in a dystopian cyberpunk hellhole where fear rules the streets, then you'd be seeing posts like "I'm just so scared right now. I'm just hiding out in my basement with my .22 in my hands"" "I'm planning on buying a gun tomorrow" "Building a wrought iron fence to keep the lynch mobs out when SHTF" "URGENT: Is there a way to make my smart home hack-proof and home-rig it to fire bullets or harpoons at anything that approaches it?" and angry panic-laden rants that end with "FUCK THIS, I'M HEADING OUT TO LOOT WALMART!"

Full_Pokedex posted...

So what you're saying is, to protect Democracy we need to reject Democracy?

No. He is saying you should vote my guy because you are indecisive. Because... reasons

DnDer posted...

No one who says this...

Says this...

Sure they do it when somebody is trying to infer they aren't. Remember this all started because I was just trying to get some clarification on why pregnant women were being turned away from hospitals. Ridiculous. Dude just likes to have beef on the internet.

Deoxxys will never be pregnant, nor be involved in a pregnancy. It's clear why he just didn't see women's rights being stripped away that big a deal.

To him.

Umbreon posted...

Deoxxys will never be pregnant, nor be involved in a pregnancy. It's clear why he just didn't see women's rights being stripped away that big a deal.

To him.

My girlfriend can literally die if she gets pregnant.

Now gtfo with that bs.

deoxxys posted...

My girlfriend can literally die if she gets pregnant.

I don't know the situation here, and it's not my business to ask. I certainly wish her no harm either.

Republican politicians, however, would tell your girlfriend "We don't care" if her life was in danger due to pregnancy. Hell if said politicians have their way, you won't be able to buy condoms. Or the morning after pill. Or any form of protection/pregnancy prevention that any responsible adult might want.

Do you still think people are "overreacting"?

Everyday I see this it makes me more worried about all of my sisters.

Like... It doesn't even make sense that this should ever be a worry. What a stupid ass country we live in now.

Umbreon posted...

I don't know the situation here, and it's not my business to ask. I certainly wish her no harm either.

Republican politicians, however, would tell your girlfriend "We don't care" if her life was in danger due to pregnancy. Hell if said politicians have their way, you won't be able to buy condoms. Or the morning after pill. Or any form of protection/pregnancy prevention that any responsible adult might want.

Do you still think people are "overreacting"?

People negatively reacting to RVW being repealed is fine and perfectly reasonable. I was one of the angry people.

My absurd post was in response to one person who started talking about how next they were going to repeal gay marriage or make interracial couples illegal.

Some Maryland senator didn't give Duncan fast Internet quickly enough, so he's really not sure if women should be forced to die in childbirth or not...

Remember this when the usual suspects start going same thing, both sides.

deoxxys posted...

People negatively reacting to RVW being repealed is fine and perfectly reasonable. I was one of the angry people.

My absurd post was in response to one person who started talking about how next they were going to repeal gay marriage or make interracial couples illegal.

Repealing gay marriage is certainly on the agenda for the GOP.

hockeybabe89 posted...

Some Maryland senator didn't give Duncan fast Internet quickly enough, so he's really not sure if women should be forced to die in childbirth or not...

Could you please not put words in my mouth?

Tanthalas posted...

Repealing gay marriage is certainly on the agenda for the GOP.

I hear you, someone else said that too. Hopefully that never happens.

deoxxys posted...

I didn't enter the topic to purposely mock people.

I actually enter a lot of topics meaning to post my disgust but seeing people take make these crazy predictions usually makes me stop and hit topic list. In that instance I guess I just chose to poke fun at them instead.

You seem to have plenty of free time to dig through people's posts, If you really want, you can find I have always supported abortion. Or not I don't really gaf. I know what I believe and the people that matter to me know what I believe.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/fdfce00e.jpg

Article: cop shoots kid
Deoxxys: wow that's awful maybe I'll post something about how terrible it is
Poster A: "Next thing you know they'll line us out in the streets for a firing squad".
Deoxxys: Eh..I dont feel like posting anymore
Tora Sami: Doxxys becoming a Nazi!

@deoxxys wtf is pro-abortion?

Like do you go up to pregnant people and demand they abort their kid?

deoxxys posted...

Article: cop shoots kid
Deoxxys: wow that's awful maybe I'll post something about how terrible it is
Poster A: "Next thing you know they'll line us out in the streets for a firing squad".
Deoxxys: Eh..I dont feel like posting anymore
Tora Sami: Doxxys becoming a Nazi!

Well not specifically the Nazi thing, more like just the correlation of "oh so you think I am *blank*, then do all the stuff that *blank* does. Cause of this sentence.

In that instance I guess I just chose to poke fun at them instead.

deoxxys posted...

Sure they do it when somebody is trying to infer they aren't.

Pro-choice people are not pro-abortion. No one is pro-abortion. And advocates for women are especially aware of, and sensitive to, the language that "pro-abortion" would imply.

deoxxys posted...

My absurd post was in response to one person who started talking about how next they were going to repeal gay marriage or make interracial couples illegal.

They are.

Here, because the majority decision declined to address this issue [of basic Constitutional, if not human, rights], Thomas wrote separately to encourage them to:

For that reason, in future cases, we should reconsider all of this Court's substantive due process precedents, including Griswold, Lawrence, and Obergefell. Because any substantive due process decision is "demonstrably erroneous," Ramos v. Louisiana(THOMAS, J., concurring in judgment)we have a duty to "correct the error" established in those precedents, Gamble v. United States(2019) (THOMAS, J., concurring).After overruling these demonstrably erroneous decisions, the question would remain whether other constitutional provisions guarantee the myriad rights that our substantive due process cases have generated.

SOURCE: https://reason.com/2022/06/24/clarence-thomas-calls-to-reconsider-gay-marriage-sodomy-rulings/

And I fucking hate Reason, but even they see what this direct quote directly implies.

The Thomas Court is willing to do what Republicans have been salivating over since the lavender scare: outlawing lgbt people.

Don't fucking act like it's irrational or an overreaction. He knows what he's saying, and it's not the first time either side has taken the opportunity to use an opinion saying, "We're ready to solve this issue if you find us the right case."

Ppl keep saying vote for dems to stop this. Why are they doing nothing now?

hockeybabe89 posted...

Some Maryland senator didn't give Duncan fast Internet quickly enough, so he's really not sure if women should be forced to die in childbirth or not...

Full_Pokedex posted...

Could you please not put words in my mouth?

I was there for that one. I'm not 100% sure it was abortion, but I sure as he'll remember your position being, "I can't be fucked to vote for basic human rights and dignity, or even just against literal fascism, because the liberals didn't get me my internet service. Screw democrats and screw America."

That last part might be a tad hyperbolic, though.

cjsdowg posted...

Ppl keep saying vote for dems to stop this. Why are they doing nothing now?

Because they don't own the supreme court. Vote Dem so we can stop the Repubs running wild with this.

Pro abortion pro choice, same thing. It sounds silly to interpret that as "wanting to abort all babies".

And I hear you on the supreme court thing a few people have pointed that out. It was an assumption on my part that they were overreacting because people on GameFAQs often make acemos posts.

Night, I'm going to bed

deoxxys posted...

Pro abortion pro choice, same thing. It sounds silly to interpret that as "wanting to abort all babies".

One of them is about choice. The other is a common right winger phrase to try to claim women want to kill children.

I refuse to believe you did not know this considering your posting history.

havean776 posted...

One of them is about choice. The other is a common right winger phrase to try to claim women want to kill children.

I refuse to believe you did not know this considering your posting history.

Yeah, I'm not buying that anyone who is really pro-choice would go around saying they are "pro-abortion". It's most of the way toward admitting to be pro-"baby killing", and that's a notorious right-wing framing of the issue.

Are we really gaslighting deoxxys instead of focusing on the actual topic?

Not everyone is as pessimistic when it comes to the lengths republicans will go.

Turns out its not pessimism. Its being realistic.

To be completely honest, its making me want to talk to people at work more. Im surrounded by conservatives and Im curious of their take.

Like, I am continuously shocked at how evil some of the things I hear are. Like, as a receptionist or whatever. I dont even think I could have the balls to just reject someone. What kinda fear are these facilities facing?

Wait so physicians are breaking the law in order to not break the law?

This is just one reason why it's so insulting to call these people "pro-life". They couldn't give a fuck about life. They're just forced birthers.

cjsdowg posted...

Ppl keep saying vote for dems to stop this. Why are they doing nothing now?

These laws are taking effect at state level. If you voted in Democrats at state level, this wouldn't happen.

cjsdowg posted...

Ppl keep saying vote for dems to stop this. Why are they doing nothing now?

dismissive wanking gesture

Full_Pokedex posted...

Just because I'm not voting for Biden doesn't mean I want him to lose,

I mean.....

cjsdowg posted...

Ppl keep saying vote for dems to stop this. Why are they doing nothing now?

Biden isn't a fascist king and since he doesn't control the government he can't force decisions. Until Dems hold all three branches of the government it's going to be extremely difficult for them to enact actual change. Fat fuck winning in November means he gets to taint the Supreme Court even more AND do further damage to our government by essentially becoming a king and forcing his agenda through undemocratic means.

cjsdowg posted...

Ppl keep saying vote for dems to stop this. Why are they doing nothing now?

A user I have tagged with a thread we can't see on the politics board is saying some incredibly stupid shit? Say it ain't so.

ai123 posted...

These laws are taking effect at state level. If you voted in Democrats at state level, this wouldn't happen.

Yeah, it's something people don't seem to grasp. The same way that roe was slowly chiooed away at by Republican voters continually voting for asshole GOP members who worked to get rid of it. You have to keep voting more and more non shitty republicans in to make big positive changes.

When roe got overturned there are pictures of all the congressional efforts in that year alone for Democrats trying to protect women's rights and codify roe, but they werent able to pass because, gasp there weren't enough democratic party members to overcome the shitty Republican ones.

It's not about just voting for Biden once and being done. You can to KEEP voting for Democrats in every position to get rid of the cancer that is the GOP. It sucks, but it is what it is.

The Republican Party is literally a terrorist organization.

I wouldn't have thought anything about the term pro-abortion either.

but republicans want to do literally anything they can get away with.

Gwynevere posted...

Conservatives thoroughly disgust me in a way I can't easily put into words. This is just barbaric cruelty

Women exist for the purpose of being cooking, cleaning, and breeding fuck toys to Republicans. If you can't serve those purposes for them they don't give a fuck about what happens to you.

If the dems are smart, and they aren't, they'll go all in on this kind of stuff. They shouldn't run against individual Republicans in their races. They should run against the party and it's abortion stance a whole. Their message should be "if you are a woman, vote like your life depends on it. If you are a man, vote like the women in your life lives depend on it. Because they do".

ScazarMeltex posted...

Women exist for the purpose of being cooking, cleaning, and breeding fuck toys to Republicans. If you can't serve those purposes for them they don't give a fuck about what happens to you.

If the dems are smart, and they aren't, they'll go all in on this kind of stuff. They shouldn't run against individual Republicans in their races. They should run against the party and it's abortion stance a whole. Their message should be "if you are a woman, vote like your life depends on it. If you are a man, vote like the women in your life lives depend on it. Because they do".

Honestly if you ever wanted a good reason for the whole system being rigged, the Dems not absolutely shredding the GOP alive is evidence enough.

Your opponent has clearly given every indication that they're incompetent and motivated by hate and you refuse to call them out? You're complicit.

Americans look at this and say but the Democrats dont inspire me or electrify me enough.

cuttin_in_farm posted...

Are we really gaslighting deoxxys instead of focusing on the actual topic?

I mean, there's a reason 261 was dismantled, and CE was quarantined for the general population of this site.

Bladesyphon posted...

I mean, there's a reason 261 was dismantled, and CE was quarantined for the general population of this site.

And they're unrelated to people calling out a user who is known to have belittled other people for freaking out over RoevWade

Im confused why would away women trying to give birth? I thought thats what they wanted.

cuttin_in_farm posted...

Are we really gaslighting deoxxys instead of focusing on the actual topic?

Not everyone is as pessimistic when it comes to the lengths republicans will go.

This is why I think the mods need to be more active in topics like these and intervene when the direction of the conversation trails away from the topic and becomes about personal squabbles. Saying "That's rich coming from you, because you said this other thing in another topic" adds absolutely nothing to the discussion about the actual topic and just makes things heated while drawing other people away from the topic to join in. Mods should be proactive about this in potentially political topics.

Turns out its not pessimism. Its being realistic.

To be completely honest, its making me want to talk to people at work more. Im surrounded by conservatives and Im curious of their take.

Like, I am continuously shocked at how evil some of the things I hear are. Like, as a receptionist or whatever. I dont even think I could have the balls to just reject someone. What kinda fear are these facilities facing?

My sample number isn't high because I don't personally know many conservatives, but the people I do know aren't extreme. They wouldn't support pregnant women being turned away from care or not being able to receive abortions when medically necessary.

Miquella posted...

My sample number isn't high because I don't personally know many conservatives, but the people I do know aren't extreme. They wouldn't support pregnant women being turned away from care or not being able to receive abortions when medically necessary.

So they're not voting for republicans?

Even if conservatives don't support things like this, they will vote for a party that does. Their words mean nothing.

Umbreon posted...

And they're unrelated to people calling out a user who is known to have belittled other people for freaking out over RoevWade

It's not unrelated, though. It's exactly what people are referring to when they say political topics are toxic. Calling out another user is petty and derailing. Just stick to the topic.

ViewtifulGrave posted...

Im confused why would away women trying to give birth? I thought thats what they wanted.

When your assistance or intervention can result in an unintentional death and the state breathing down your neck with a murder charge, one can't blame people for refusing to help.

In some countries offering assistance to someone involved in an accident can lead to you being sued or responsible for failing to help them fully. So bystanders just don't intervene. Someone dying? Sucks to suck.

KajeI posted...

So they're not voting for republicans?

Southernfatman posted...

Even if conservatives don't support things like this, they will vote for a party that does.

Can't say because although we superficially talk about politics when it comes up (and it very rarely comes up), we never really discuss things like voting, which I think is personal anyway. For the sake of friendship, it's best not to go there with some people.