Current Events > Verified pro-Nazi accounts flourish on Elon Musk's Twitter

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Antifar
04/16/24 12:55:30 PM
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https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/x-twitter-elon-musk-nazi-extremist-white-nationalist-accounts-rcna145020

Elon Musks X is a thriving hub for Nazi support and propaganda, with paid subscribers sharing speeches by Adolf Hitler or content praising his genocidal regime.

NBC News found that at least 150 paid Premium subscriber X accounts and thousands of unpaid accounts have posted or amplified pro-Nazi content on X in recent months, often in apparent violation of Xs rules. The paid accounts posting the content all consistently posted antisemitic or pro-Nazi material. Examples included praise of Nazi soldiers, sharing of Nazi symbols and denials of the Holocaust.

The pro-Nazi content is not confined to the fringes of the platform. During one seven-day period in March, seven of the most widely shared pro-Nazi posts on X accrued 4.5 million views in total. One post with 1.9 million views promoted a false and long-debunked conspiracy theory that 6 million Jews did not die in the Holocaust. More than 5,300 verified and unverified accounts reshared that post, and other popular posts were reshared hundreds of times apiece.

Xs policies ban glorifying violence a broad prohibition that X has sometimes used to take down pro-Nazi content and accounts. The rules also ban praising violent entities and say the platform will apply labels to hate imagery like swastikas. But NBC News found that X does not appear to be enforcing those policies consistently.

The findings are the latest evidence of a flourishing Nazi network on X under Musks ownership. Previous investigations by news organizations and anti-hate watchdogs have documented many examples of antisemitism, white supremacy and support for Nazism on X.

NBC News found the Nazi propaganda posts by browsing the platform: scrolling through replies, clicking on user profiles and looking through the engagements on viral posts. NBC News conducted its review during one week in late March. The number of verified subscribers posting pro-Nazi material may be significantly more than 150. When NBC News conducted its review, Premium subscribers had the option to hide their verification check marks from the public.

The verified users sharing the pro-Nazi content have entered into a mutually beneficial relationship with Musks X, paying $8 a month or more for premium services that are available to all premium subscribers. In exchange, they get prioritization when they reply to posts and the opportunity to monetize their content through ads, according to the subscription terms.

The result is that X is bringing Nazi sympathizers in from the dark corners of the internet to a massive platform where they can pay to amplify their content. X had 174 million daily active users worldwide on its mobile app in February, according to the research firm Sensor Tower. X claims to have many more than that.

NBC News conducted its research in March, before X implemented a change to provide free premium subscriptions to accounts with more than 2,500 verified followers. That move has made it more difficult to determine who is a paid subscriber.

A welcoming social media environment can make Nazi sympathizers feel validated in their views and recruit others to their cause, said Patrick Riccards, executive director of Life After Hate, a Milwaukee-based organization that helps people disengage from violent extremist groups.

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Foppe
04/16/24 12:56:30 PM
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Musk solution: New users should pay to post!

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Crimsoness
04/16/24 12:57:21 PM
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That's why he bought it

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ellis123
04/16/24 1:00:08 PM
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Crimsoness posted...
That's why he bought it
I still ascribe to the idea that he bought it because he was angry that the one account that tracked his plane wasn't banned. He banned the guy something like four times before the guy finally left (or got IP banned).

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Antifar
04/16/24 1:00:10 PM
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Crimsoness posted...
That's why he bought it
That's correct.

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Baron_Ox
04/16/24 1:00:14 PM
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Apartheid Clyde making a platform hospitable for white supremacists is just one of those things you have to accept as inevitable.

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UnfairRepresent
04/16/24 1:00:34 PM
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Crimsoness posted...
That's why he bought it


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ScazarMeltex
04/16/24 1:03:32 PM
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ellis123 posted...
I still ascribe to the idea that he bought it because he was angry that the one account that tracked his plane wasn't banned. He banned the guy something like four times before the guy finally left (or got IP banned).
That was part of it, but overall his goal was to amplify right wing speech.

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bobbycorwin
04/16/24 1:08:28 PM
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Its actually worrisome when you look at how Orbon took over Hungary and compare that to what is happening here. One thing he did was get his rich friends to buy up media and then shut down media he couldnt buy until only his media was left.

Here we have two main source of news that young people look at, Twitter and Tik Tok. Twitter gets bought up by someone who fell down the right wing rabbit hole and is sympathetic to Trump, and the government is currently trying to ban Tik Tok.

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Zikten
04/16/24 1:15:49 PM
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What are the odds that the US government ever tries to ban Twitter, based on this information?
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Antifar
04/16/24 1:16:15 PM
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Zikten posted...
What are the odds that the US government ever tries to ban Twitter, based on this information?
Zero

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Kradek
04/16/24 1:20:46 PM
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I'm concerned with the role Twitter will play this election season. The closer we get to the election the more Musk will actively hinder Dem support and boost every bullshit Repub narrative and conspiracy that he can.

That's my theory as to why he bought it, to control the narrative on the most used social media platform.

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SpawnShadow
04/16/24 1:30:08 PM
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Kradek posted...
I'm concerned with the role Twitter will play this election season. The closer we get to the election the more Musk will actively hinder Dem support and boost every bullshit Repub narrative and conspiracy that he can.

That's my theory as to why he bought it, to control the narrative on the most used social media platform.
I'm pretty sure Twitter has never been the most used social media platform, even before the Muskrat bought it and turned it into a steaming pile of Xitter. Pretty sure Facebook still has that dubious honor.
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pazzy
04/16/24 1:40:50 PM
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It's strange that Twitter was even really used for a consistent news source anyway.

Now it's just garbage through and through.
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creativerealms
04/16/24 1:41:27 PM
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Of course. He is one of those accounts after all.

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Antifar
04/16/24 2:16:29 PM
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SpawnShadow posted...
I'm pretty sure Twitter has never been the most used social media platform, even before the Muskrat bought it and turned it into a steaming pile of Xitter. Pretty sure Facebook still has that dubious honor.
Yeah, it's way behind FB, YouTube, even Snapchat IIRC in terms of usage. But, it has historically catered to a news and politics heavy user base, a lot of journalists are on there, so it's had an outsized role in the Discourse.

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CADE_FOSTER
04/16/24 2:17:48 PM
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Baron_Ox posted...
Apartheid Clyde making a platform hospitable for white supremacists is just one of those things you have to accept as inevitable.

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Kradek
04/16/24 2:20:38 PM
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SpawnShadow posted...
I'm pretty sure Twitter has never been the most used social media platform, even before the Muskrat bought it and turned it into a steaming pile of Xitter. Pretty sure Facebook still has that dubious honor.

Well fair, but I mean that Twitter was heavily used by left-wingers/progressives/liberals to coordinate with each other for grassroot efforts, fundraising, as well as respectable journalists/reporters giving breaking stories.

FB may have more actual users, however you don't see news and journalist statements shared/blow up on FB like you do with Twitter and Musk has made it a point to wage war with those in that group who don't kowtow to him.

FB's political discussion, in contrast, is known for being right-wing boomers shitting it up and Zuckerberg saying he no longer cares about curtailing it or promoting the truth.

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CADE_FOSTER
04/16/24 2:22:19 PM
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And you wonder why Google and Apple havent deplatformed twitter from the app stores would be so fast that he would change
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GrandConjuraton
04/16/24 2:24:56 PM
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Crimsoness posted...
That's why he bought it


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SaikyoStyle
04/16/24 2:25:54 PM
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A guy I know tweeted the word cisgender and it got auto-flagged for hate speech. Fuck that entire platform and its trust fund baby owner.

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Umbreon
04/16/24 2:26:57 PM
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SaikyoStyle posted...
A guy I know tweeted the word cisgender and it got auto-flagged for hate speech. Fuck that entire platform and its trust fund baby owner.

I'm guessing the hard R doesn't get that same treatment from Musk.

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creativerealms
04/16/24 2:36:29 PM
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SaikyoStyle posted...
A guy I know tweeted the word cisgender and it got auto-flagged for hate speech. Fuck that entire platform and its trust fund baby owner.
Yep, while Musk is pushing Twitter as a "free speech haven" they still can make any word they want "hate speech" which they already did with cis.

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Zikten
04/16/24 2:51:01 PM
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Yea, the Right has decided that CIS is a slur
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Antifar
04/16/24 9:02:18 PM
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Kradek posted...
FB's political discussion, in contrast, is known for being right-wing boomers shitting it up and Zuckerberg saying he no longer cares about curtailing it or promoting the truth.
So actually this is shifting, mostly because FB is downplaying political content
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/04/conservative-digital-media-traffic/678055/
For years, Facebooks mysterious algorithms served up links to news and commentary articles, sending droves of traffic to their publishers. But those days are gone. Amid criticism from elected officials and academics who said the social-media giant was spreading hate speech and harmful misinformation, including Russian propaganda, before the 2016 election, Facebook apparently came to question the value of featuring news on its platform. In early 2018, it began deemphasizing news content, giving greater priority to content posted by friends and family members. In 2021, it tightened the tap a little further. This past February, it announced that it would do the same on Instagram and Threads. All of this monkeying with the internets plumbing drastically reduced the referral traffic flowing to news and commentary sites. The changes have affected everyone involved in digital media, including some liberal-leaning sitessuch as Slate (which saw a 42 percent traffic drop), the Daily Beast (41 percent), and Vox (62 percent, after losing its two most prominent writers)but the impact appears to have been the worst, on average, for conservative media. (Referral traffic from Google has also declined over the past few years, but far less sharply.)

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Celestial_Red
04/16/24 9:34:26 PM
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Crimsoness posted...
That's why he bought it


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Kradek
04/16/24 10:42:00 PM
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Antifar posted...
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/04/conservative-digital-media-traffic/678055/
For years, Facebooks mysterious algorithms served up links to news and commentary articles, sending droves of traffic to their publishers. But those days are gone. Amid criticism from elected officials and academics who said the social-media giant was spreading hate speech and harmful misinformation, including Russian propaganda, before the 2016 election, Facebook apparently came to question the value of featuring news on its platform. In early 2018, it began deemphasizing news content, giving greater priority to content posted by friends and family members. In 2021, it tightened the tap a little further. This past February, it announced that it would do the same on Instagram and Threads. All of this monkeying with the internets plumbing drastically reduced the referral traffic flowing to news and commentary sites. The changes have affected everyone involved in digital media, including some liberal-leaning sitessuch as Slate (which saw a 42 percent traffic drop), the Daily Beast (41 percent), and Vox (62 percent, after losing its two most prominent writers)but the impact appears to have been the worst, on average, for conservative media. (Referral traffic from Google has also declined over the past few years, but far less sharply.)

That's odd because I recall Zuck recently saying they wouldn't be monitoring misinformation as they did in 2020.

However I can't find anything recent or that supports that, so I guess I was mistaken. Thanks.

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Antifar
04/16/24 10:47:33 PM
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Kradek posted...
That's odd because I recall Zuck recently saying they wouldn't be monitoring misinformation as they did in 2020.
That may well be true, but de-amplifying politics content could still have the effect of keeping the spread of that stuff contained.

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Kradek
04/16/24 10:48:40 PM
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Antifar posted...
That may well be true, but de-amplifying politics content could still have the effect of keeping the spread of that stuff contained.

This is true.

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Memorial_Bench
04/18/24 11:09:44 AM
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When is bluesky finally going to edge them out in relevance

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CADE_FOSTER
04/18/24 11:14:29 AM
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deplatforming works google and apple fix this
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ClayGuida
04/18/24 11:17:02 AM
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The ads I receive from scrolling through Twitter is nuts. It's basically AIPAC or CPAC related shit. Non stop.

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EPR-radar
04/19/24 8:20:40 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

That's not going to happen, unless Musk has a stroke and the resulting brain damage causes him to go full Trump mode.

There is nothing in the world that is easier than being a massive criminal piece of shit in the US, if one is filthy rich. There are only two rules:

1) Don't steal from other filthy rich people.

2) Don't spend entire years of your life at the center of your personal media circus having your own political and financial corruption as a central topic (i.e., how Trump is now a criminal defendant)

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BlueKat
04/20/24 7:40:36 AM
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EPR-radar posted...
That's not going to happen, unless Musk has a stroke and the resulting brain damage causes him to go full Trump mode.

There is nothing in the world that is easier than being a massive criminal piece of shit in the US, if one is filthy rich. There are only two rules:

1) Don't steal from other filthy rich people.

2) Don't spend entire years of your life at the center of your personal media circus having your own political and financial corruption as a central topic (i.e., how Trump is now a criminal defendant)
He's been headed towards 2 now for a moment

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hockeybabe89
04/20/24 7:41:49 AM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Musk literally thinks trans people are worse than Nazis

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evilpresident
04/22/24 1:15:25 AM
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I reported an account with a swastika avatar and a handle that read 'killtheJewishslur' and got a reply back saying that Twitter didn't see anything wrong with that account.

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WesternMedia
04/23/24 3:03:36 AM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/62074acf.png

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Hornezz
04/23/24 1:10:02 PM
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When the Twitter bots try to post nazi shit, but ChatGPT won't let them:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/ee41a0ce.jpg

I guess this is why Musk opposes AI censorship.

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nekrodev
04/23/24 1:14:49 PM
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WesternMedia posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/62074acf.png

damn it's wild when alex jones is your last line of defense lmao

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Voidgolem
04/23/24 1:16:27 PM
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150 accounts, even on the steaming pile that is Twitter, is basically a drop in the bucket

Still, feel like they should be cleaned up, seeing as they invariably leak into all other discussions

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WesternMedia
04/24/24 8:19:44 PM
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Hornezz posted...
When the Twitter bots try to post nazi shit, but ChatGPT won't let them:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/ee41a0ce.jpg

I guess this is why Musk opposes AI censorship.
lmao

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