Current Events > Looks like its gonna come down to 7 states to decide if Trump wins or not

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solosnake
04/05/24 9:33:22 PM
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solosnake
04/05/24 9:34:58 PM
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All he needs to win is 2 really, PA and GA would be enough

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BlueKat
04/05/24 9:35:18 PM
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Biden says he's going to try and flip Florida so we'll see how that goes

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Zikten
04/05/24 9:36:42 PM
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I hate the electoral collage. I think if it was a pure numbers situation, Biden would have a much higher chance
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solosnake
04/05/24 9:36:51 PM
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solosnake
04/05/24 9:41:20 PM
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solosnake
04/05/24 9:41:28 PM
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shit looks grim

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lilORANG
04/05/24 9:42:36 PM
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Trump couldn't win with incumbent advantage. I have a hard time believing he'll win now when things are objectively better under Biden.


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CyborgSage00x0
04/05/24 9:46:36 PM
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So, you mean like every year?

Also:

https://www.270towin.com/maps/1GvAD

Fix'd. PA, MI, WI, and NV aren't swing states. Biden already wins with this (extremely likely) map, and could lose NV and have it not matter.

The only real intrigue is if he can hold GA and AZ, and finally flip NC.

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Cheater87
04/05/24 9:46:45 PM
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This could be the end of democracy...

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CountCorvinus
04/05/24 9:48:17 PM
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He's gonna lose Michigan.

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ForsakenHermit
04/05/24 9:48:41 PM
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I think Biden will hold in Arizona, Georgia I'm not so sure.

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luigi33
04/05/24 9:58:10 PM
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/yawn. -every- year looks grim for Dems. They've won 2 out of the last 3 elections, and yet every time it was "Grim".

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solosnake
04/05/24 9:58:40 PM
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luigi33 posted...
/yawn. -every- year looks grim for Dems. They've won 2 out of the last 3 elections, and yet every time it was "Grim".
biden only won last time by less than 100k votes iirc

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leonkr41138
04/05/24 10:00:58 PM
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Im not voting this time im tired of politics

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Drunk_Cobra
04/05/24 10:04:30 PM
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I feel like you guys are just trying to be nervous about this.

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archizzy
04/05/24 10:04:37 PM
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solosnake posted...
biden only won last time by less than 100k votes iirc


What are you referring to when you say he only won by 100K. He won the electoral 306 to 232 and not that it even matters but won the popular vote by around 7 million votes. He should do even better this time. Dude already has it won.

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solosnake
04/05/24 10:06:01 PM
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Drunk_Cobra posted...
I feel like you guys are just trying to be nervous about this.
Its probably easy to feel like Trump has no chance if you live in a liberal area where its obvious to everyone how awful trump is. The fact is there are huges swaths of the country that literally worship the man, theyve gotten even more radical and fanatical since the last election

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solosnake
04/05/24 10:06:54 PM
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archizzy posted...
What are you referring to when you say he only won by 100K. He won the electoral 306 to 232 and not that it even matters but won the popular vote by around 7 million votes. He should do even better this time. Dude already has it won.
im referring to the few states that were hotly contested where biden barely won. The popular vote unfortunately doesnt matter at all. Its pretty dangerous and not a good idea to think Biden already has it won. Thats just not the case at all

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ButteryMales
04/05/24 10:16:13 PM
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archizzy posted...
He should do even better this time.
Why would he?
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solosnake
04/05/24 10:18:19 PM
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ButteryMales posted...
Why would he?
people delude themselves into thinking that with how blatantly obvious how bad Trump is, that everyone else should see it too

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Solar_Crimson
04/05/24 10:25:06 PM
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CountCorvinus posted...
He's gonna lose Michigan.
The Dems have complete control of Michigan.

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tripleh213
04/05/24 10:25:36 PM
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It's always Wisconsin

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Drunk_Cobra
04/05/24 10:27:54 PM
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solosnake posted...
Its probably easy to feel like Trump has no chance if you live in a liberal area where its obvious to everyone how awful trump is. The fact is there are huges swaths of the country that literally worship the man, theyve gotten even more radical and fanatical since the last election
One of those swing states you project him losing actually, and the question I go back to constantly is who likes him now that didn't already like him four years ago.

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Anteaterking
04/05/24 10:31:43 PM
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Might have to take the 1 away in Nebraska.

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ButteryMales
04/05/24 10:38:05 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
The Dems have complete control of Michigan.
Hillary thought that too.
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GrandConjuraton
04/05/24 10:39:36 PM
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Citing polls?
ROFL

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Solar_Crimson
04/05/24 10:45:04 PM
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ButteryMales posted...
Hillary thought that too.
No, the Dems literally do control Michigan's entire legislature, since 2022. The state GOP is also broke and in shambles.

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hereforemnant
04/05/24 10:46:01 PM
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lilORANG posted...
Trump couldn't win with incumbent advantage. I have a hard time believing he'll win now when things are objectively better under Biden.
Unfortunately though reality doesn't really matter as much for voters & most people so much as narratives do
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IdiotMachine
04/05/24 10:46:21 PM
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As a PA resident, I feel great that my vote is worth much more than most other voters. And of course, I already know who Im voting for.

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TheGoldenEel
04/05/24 10:58:59 PM
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CyborgSage00x0 posted...
So, you mean like every year?

Also:

https://www.270towin.com/maps/1GvAD

Fix'd. PA, MI, WI, and NV aren't swing states. Biden already wins with this (extremely likely) map, and could lose NV and have it not matter.

The only real intrigue is if he can hold GA and AZ, and finally flip NC.
nonsense. Wisconsin is absolutely a swing state

we somehow sent Russian ron back to the senate even as we voted for a dem governor

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ReiRei89
04/05/24 11:00:18 PM
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WI is indeed a swing state. MI and PA aren't really. The GOP in MI is broke and on the verge of extinction.

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BlueKat
04/05/24 11:01:18 PM
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ReiRei89 posted...
WI is indeed a swing state. MI and PA aren't really. The GOP in MI is broke and on the verge of extinction.
MI and PA are definitely swing states

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CyborgSage00x0
04/08/24 11:54:43 AM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
Wisconsin is absolutely a swing state
Not when it comes to the general. 2016 was an aberation.

BlueKat posted...
MI and PA are definitely swing states
They aren't. Like WI, 2016 was an anomaly. MI especially has swung hard left since then, as already stated in this topic, with the GOP there out of money and in a constant state of strife and infighting.

Swing states actually have to, you know, swing. Not randomly go the other way once in 24 years. Regardless, there's every indication that all 3 are easy blue this year. The GQP is lagging behind money, burning cash for Trump's legal troubles, and are having to waste resources trying to reclaim AZ and GA.

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Sufferedphoenix
04/08/24 11:56:55 AM
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lilORANG posted...
Trump couldn't win with incumbent advantage. I have a hard time believing he'll win now when things are objectively better under Biden.

Really? Prices on everything have gone up. And no I'm not faulting Biden but you'd be a fool to think others aren't.

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Will_VIIII
04/08/24 12:04:26 PM
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solosnake posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/fe243177.jpg
I feel like this ignores primary results.

Biden did better than Trump in the WI primary as far as numbers are concerned.

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CyborgSage00x0
04/08/24 12:06:58 PM
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Sufferedphoenix posted...
Really? Prices on everything have gone up. And no I'm not faulting Biden but you'd be a fool to think others aren't.
Polls, as useless as they are, show people (correctly) blaming this on corporate greed, showing Biden's Greedflation messaging is working.

That said, Dems have won virtually every type of election, from special, to general, to local to state and national House and Senate hard since 2018, with zero signs of slowing down. Hell, they just won in ALABAMA running on abortion rights, of all things. The GOP is in shambles of infighting and is running out of money. There's no reason to believe Biden is the weaker candidate, here.

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action52
04/08/24 12:15:07 PM
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CyborgSage00x0 posted...
Polls, as useless as they are, show people (correctly) blaming this on corporate greed, showing Biden's Greedflation messaging is working.

That said, Dems have won virtually every type of election, from special, to general, to local to state and national House and Senate hard since 2018, with zero signs of slowing down. Hell, they just won in ALABAMA running on abortion rights, of all things. The GOP is in shambles of infighting and is running out of money. There's no reason to believe Biden is the weaker candidate, here.
I agree with this.

But Hillary Clinton was also the stronger candidate.

What I'm saying is, there's plenty of reason to be cautiously optimistic but it's important that we NEVER treat this election like we've already won.

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TheGoldenEel
04/08/24 12:21:27 PM
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CyborgSage00x0 posted...
Not when it comes to the general. 2016 was an aberation.

They aren't. Like WI, 2016 was an anomaly. MI especially has swung hard left since then, as already stated in this topic, with the GOP there out of money and in a constant state of strife and infighting.

Swing states actually have to, you know, swing. Not randomly go the other way once in 24 years. Regardless, there's every indication that all 3 are easy blue this year. The GQP is lagging behind money, burning cash for Trump's legal troubles, and are having to waste resources trying to reclaim AZ and GA.
Biden won Wisconsin in 2020 by a mere 20,000 votes, thats not a number that gives me confidence

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sauceje
04/08/24 12:36:31 PM
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archizzy posted...
Dude already has it won.
this kind of mentality leads to people assuming they don't need to go do their part and vote. go out and vote, please.

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ScazarMeltex
04/08/24 12:44:04 PM
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Almost like the electoral college is a pointless and outdated institution that is only still in existence because it gives an advantage to the GOP.

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apocalyptic_4
04/08/24 12:51:20 PM
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Biden has been loosing support rapidly due to what's happening in major cities economically and immigration issues among other things.

I would genuinely be surprised if Biden gets a 2nd term and I'm not a trump supporter but the writing is on the wall here.

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Plumeofdusk
04/08/24 12:53:18 PM
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It'll be okay, the polls are always skewed red because the only people who answer the phone for them are boomers. :v Biden has the incumbent advantage this time too.
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ButteryMales
04/08/24 1:48:27 PM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
Almost like the electoral college is a pointless and outdated institution that is only still in existence because it gives an advantage to the GOP.
An amendment to the constitution is almost impossible.

Plumeofdusk posted...
It'll be okay, the polls are always skewed red because the only people who answer the phone for them are boomers. :v Biden has the incumbent advantage this time too.
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Kradek
04/08/24 1:55:27 PM
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I'm optimistic about NC. It's the state Trump won by the least, they're running 119 out of 120 Dem candidates for state seats (this isn't the norm and will help down ballot), and they've got some exceptionally abhorrent candidates running as Republican this year.

Also, nobody expected GA or AZ to go for Biden in 2020, so there's room for upsets/surprises.

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CyborgSage00x0
04/08/24 3:12:38 PM
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apocalyptic_4 posted...
Biden has been loosing support rapidly due to what's happening in major cities economically and immigration issues among other things.

I would genuinely be surprised if Biden gets a 2nd term and I'm not a trump supporter but the writing is on the wall here.
lol? Based on what? Immigration being an issue for anyone not MAGA ceased to exist once the GOP killed themselves by voting down the immigration bill. It's a non-issue now to everyone else. Polls show people correctly blame the GOP for this, too.

Kradek posted...
I'm optimistic about NC
It's actually been frustrating how the Dems haven't put more effort into NC. It's been teetering on the edge for a while now, and Obama showed it's winnable. This is easily the most effort they have put into the state in a long while, so here's hoping. Making the Right burn resources defending it is also a good cause.

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Kradek
04/08/24 3:45:51 PM
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CyborgSage00x0 posted...
It's actually been frustrating how the Dems haven't put more effort into NC. It's been teetering on the edge for a while now, and Obama showed it's winnable. This is easily the most effort they have put into the state in a long while, so here's hoping. Making the Right burn resources defending it is also a good cause.

Same, I'm also cautiously optimistic that FL is within sight not just for POTUS, however also Scott's senatorial seat. Their SC upholding the 6 week ban along with marijuana legalization (decriminalization?) and abortion protection rights being on the ballot should logically drive a lot of people out to vote and ideally vote for more than just those issues.

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SauI_Goodman
04/08/24 3:46:47 PM
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I really don't see him winning nevada lol
He might take the Midwest trifecta though of Michigan, Wisconsin and Ohio.

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CrimsonGear80
04/08/24 3:47:20 PM
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Get these shit polls out of here.

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