Current Events > Biden incorrectly claims he's already seen starving children in doctor's photos

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Cemith
04/04/24 10:32:08 AM
#50:


cjsdowg posted...
So hell at least Republicans are doing what there base wants.


cjsdowg posted...
Republicans being evil is what their base wants.

This is not a good reason to not expect them to change.


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shnangyboos
04/04/24 10:33:11 AM
#51:


Biden could say he's going to kill 20% of the population, and you dudes would have to take the position that Trump's going to kill 40% of the population and enslave all the women, so vote Biden.

Have fun having the same argument 700 times for the next few months.

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cjsdowg
04/04/24 10:33:56 AM
#52:


Cemith posted...
This is not a good reason to not expect them to change.

Why would they change. their base is voting for them to do that stuff. So there voters are happy and they are getting votes.

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Torgo
04/04/24 10:35:19 AM
#53:


cjsdowg posted...
Because the dems are the only ones trying to convince good ppl to get over dead childern we are funding. Republicans that is the selling point. Republicans being evil is what their base wants. Dems base dont want that. So hell at least Republicans are doing what there base wants.

That may be the worst argument ever. Honestly I hate to do this, but it's an abuse survivor mentality.

Your argument seems to be that at least the republicans really really mean it when they advocate for even more aggressive genocidal policies against Palestinians, so... help them get elected in a shitty two-party paradigm?

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Cemith
04/04/24 10:36:01 AM
#54:


shnangyboos posted...
Biden could say he's going to kill 20% of the population, and you dudes would have to take the position that Trump's going to kill 40% of the population and enslave all the women, so vote Biden.

Have fun having the same argument 700 times for the next few months.

Would you rather a president kill 20% of people or 40% and enslave all women?

It is a binary and there is a right choice.

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Doe
04/04/24 10:37:15 AM
#55:


Foppe posted...
I mean, Ive seen starving children, Biden probably thought she would show one of those photos, this is a nothingburger.
Saying "erm, I know what a starving child looks like" to a doctor trying to explain their personal account of the horrors they witnessed to you at the event you invited them to in order to express their concerns and upsetness, is not really any better?

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McMarbles
04/04/24 10:37:59 AM
#56:


cjsdowg posted...
Stop with the strawman arguments. We are literally talking about a genocide here and you compared it to weed. Really
For the millionth time, not voting for Biden does nothing to stop the genocide, and may, in fact, accelerate it and open the door for other genocides.
Youre not abstaining from voting to stop genocide. Youre doing it so you can feel morally superior to people who actually have something to lose.

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1337toothbrush
04/04/24 10:39:47 AM
#57:


Cemith posted...
Are you kidding?
Are you? You're asking why we apply more pressure on the only party that would supposedly be willing to meet our demands. If you want to exit a room, do you apply pressure on a door or a wall? According to your argument, we shouldn't apply pressure to the door, we should be asking ourselves why a wall is harder to overcome.

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ScazarMeltex
04/04/24 10:40:18 AM
#58:


McMarbles posted...
For the millionth time, not voting for Biden does nothing to stop the genocide, and may, in fact, accelerate it and open the door for other genocides.
Youre not abstaining from voting to stop genocide. Youre doing it so you can feel morally superior to people who actually have something to lose.
This.
Dude is allowing a genocide to happen.
Big Brains: welp better elect the guy who will accelerate the genocide and expand it to LGBTQ people in the US.


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BearlyWilling
04/04/24 10:41:36 AM
#59:


Accolon posted...
I'm sick of giving Biden a free pass because the only other option is a literal fascist.

Get over it and come back down to reality. Our two party system isnt set up to leave us with any other options.

Does it suck that this is the reality we live in? It absolutely does but there literally is no other alternative here unless the entire American population rose up and collectively decided to hold Biden accountable and prevent Trump from taking office.

Neither are going to happen in our lifetimes. Armchair angst on a message board is not going to change this.

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1337toothbrush
04/04/24 10:42:09 AM
#60:


ScazarMeltex posted...
This.
Dude is allowing a genocide to happen.
Big Brains: welp better elect the guy who will accelerate the genocide and expand it to LGBTQ people in the US.
The biggest brains: "we shouldn't apply any pressure on the only party that would supposedly be willing to stop the genocide because other guy exists".

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cjsdowg
04/04/24 10:42:46 AM
#61:


Torgo posted...
That may be the worst argument ever. Honestly I hate to do this, but it's an abuse survivor mentality.

Your argument seems to be that at least the republicans really really mean it when they advocate for even more aggressive genocidal policies against Palestinians, so... help them get elected in a shitty two-party paradigm?

Nope my argument is people who want horrible things vote republican and Republicans give them those horrible things.

People who don't want horrible things vote democrat and Democrats still give us horrible things.

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Solid_Sonic
04/04/24 10:43:14 AM
#62:


This topic is going differently than I expected.

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McMarbles
04/04/24 10:44:15 AM
#63:


Solid_Sonic posted...
This topic is going differently than I expected.
What exactly were you expecting?

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Plumeofdusk
04/04/24 10:45:54 AM
#64:


It's easier to understand once you realize that whether you vote for Biden or Trump the situation in Gaza is still gonna be awful, so vote based on the other issues and then complain about the stuff you don't like as usual.

It's like how no matter what breakfast you order at denny's, it's going to come with toast. Even if you don't like the toast you've got to pick one of them to get something you do want.
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andel
04/04/24 10:46:01 AM
#65:


cjsdowg posted...
Nope my argument is people who want horrible things vote republican and Republicans give them those horrible things.

People who don't want horrible things vote democrat and Democrats still give us horrible things.

no one will give you 100% of what you want. democrats are infinitely better than republicans in every way and actually do good things

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cjsdowg
04/04/24 10:46:43 AM
#66:


McMarbles posted...
For the millionth time, not voting for Biden does nothing to stop the genocide, and may, in fact, accelerate it and open the door for other genocides.
Youre not abstaining from voting to stop genocide. Youre doing it so you can feel morally superior to people who actually have something to lose.

I am a black man in America I have far more to loss than you.

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Cemith
04/04/24 10:46:59 AM
#67:


1337toothbrush posted...
Are you? You're asking why we apply more pressure on the only party that would supposedly be willing to meet our demands. If you want to exit a room, do you apply pressure on a door or a wall? According to your argument, we shouldn't apply pressure to the door, we should be asking ourselves why a wall is harder to overcome.

The cost/risk of "applying pressure" in your eyes is a Trump rise in power. If you're confident in taking that risk, you're a fool.

Apply pressure all you want, but you won't be able to do shit about dick if you're not allowed to vote anymore ala Project 2025.

Unless you want to tell me in earnest that the Republicans will be more pliable to change.

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Solid_Sonic
04/04/24 10:47:00 AM
#68:


McMarbles posted...
What exactly were you expecting?

People immediately trying to accuse the TC of just being a bad faith news reporter.

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MrMojoRising
04/04/24 10:51:31 AM
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Can't even stand to look at his own handiwork.

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McMarbles
04/04/24 10:53:21 AM
#70:


cjsdowg posted...
I am a black man in America I have far more to loss than you.
And yet you do nothing to avoid losing it.

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cjsdowg
04/04/24 10:57:22 AM
#71:


McMarbles posted...
And yet you do nothing to avoid losing it.

I supported Biden last time. The guy personally reasonable for the both the student loan crisis and for many of the criminal justice issues facing black America today. Because Trump was just that worst. But at a point you need to say no. What is your red line. With Biden do you have one? Can he help turn Gaza into glass and you are like oh well at least he isn't Trump. Hell what does any dem have to do besides not be Trump

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McMarbles
04/04/24 11:02:19 AM
#72:


cjsdowg posted...
I supported Biden last time. The guy personally reasonable for the both the student loan crisis and for many of the criminal justice issues facing black America today. Because Trump was just that worst. But at a point you need to say no. What is your red line. With Biden do you have one? Can he help turn Gaza into glass and you are like oh well at least he isn't Trump. Hell what does any dem have to do besides not be Trump
Well, at least you have your smug sense of self-satisfaction to keep you warm at night.

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Cemith
04/04/24 11:05:39 AM
#73:


cjsdowg posted...
Hell what does any dem have to do besides not be Trump
Nothing that's the whole god damn point dude. You can't use Gaza as an excuse for literally obvious reasons. Trump, yes, is that fucking bad.

Why people are so fucking allergic to realizing this unalienable reality is baffling.

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BlueTigerLion
04/04/24 11:12:23 AM
#74:


darkace77450 posted...
"If you stop us from delivering aid to those who need it, we'll be forced to bring even more aid that you'll stop us from delivering to those who need it."

That'll show 'em.

Im out of loop why doesn't US give the aid themselves or to a neutral party like The United Nations or Red Cross? Wouldn't that stop Israel since they would be messing with UN or Red Cross.

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McMarbles
04/04/24 11:14:10 AM
#75:


Cemith posted...
Nothing that's the whole god damn point dude. You can't use Gaza as an excuse for literally obvious reasons. Trump, yes, is that fucking bad.

Why people are so fucking allergic to realizing this unalienable reality is baffling.
Its almost like there are other issues at play besides Gaza.
I am voting for Biden because Im not throwing trans rights under the bus.
I am voting for Biden because Im not throwing reproductive rights under he bus.
I am voting for Biden because Im not throwing progress on fighting climate change under the bus.
Actually, lets talk about that! Apparently its fine to call anyone who votes for Biden a genocide supporter, right? So can we call anyone who refuses to vote for Biden a transphobe? Can we do that? Is that all right? I mean the math checks out! If we narrow everything down to one issue, and that one issue is trans rights and not Gaza, then its totally valid to do that!

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Foppe
04/04/24 11:20:32 AM
#76:


BlueTigerLion posted...
Im out of loop why doesn't US give the aid themselves or to a neutral party like The United Nations or Red Cross? Wouldn't that stop Israel since they would be messing with UN or Red Cross.
You missed that UNRWA stopped bringing supplies to Northern Gaza because Israel targeted them too often?
How Israel hates UN and blocks UNRWA transports from entering Gaza?
Israel dont give a shit about UN power.

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Rexdragon125
04/04/24 11:25:08 AM
#77:


McMarbles posted...
Its almost like there are other issues at play besides Gaza.
I am voting for Biden because Im not throwing trans rights under the bus.
I am voting for Biden because Im not throwing reproductive rights under he bus.
I am voting for Biden because Im not throwing progress on fighting climate change under the bus.
Actually, lets talk about that! Apparently its fine to call anyone who votes for Biden a genocide supporter, right? So can we call anyone who refuses to vote for Biden a transphobe? Can we do that? Is that all right? I mean the math checks out! If we narrow everything down to one issue, and that one issue is trans rights and not Gaza, then its totally valid to do that!
They probably are just magas. This is like the 20th time I've seen this talking point being parroted, and magas are incapable of coming up with a single original thought
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1337toothbrush
04/04/24 11:33:38 AM
#78:


Rexdragon125 posted...
They probably are just magas. This is like the 20th time I've seen this talking point being parroted, and magas are incapable of coming up with a single original thought
So we should ignore *GENOCIDE* and anyone who cares about *GENOCIDE* must be a trump supporter? Democrats ignore people's concerns, dismiss them with "they're either with us or against us", then wonder why they lose. If you want democrats to win, use a better strategy.

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Smashingpmkns
04/04/24 11:37:19 AM
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I've already seen those photos. Why do you think I sent more weapons to Israel last week

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Rexdragon125
04/04/24 11:38:31 AM
#80:


1337toothbrush posted...
So we should ignore *GENOCIDE* and anyone who cares about *GENOCIDE* must be a trump supporter? Democrats ignore people's concerns, dismiss them with "they're either with us or against us", then wonder why they lose. If you want democrats to win, use a better strategy.
Not even addressing what was said, just squawk squawk squawk
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1337toothbrush
04/04/24 11:41:02 AM
#81:


Rexdragon125 posted...
Not even addressing what was said, just squawk squawk squawk
I addressed what was said. You dismissed all concerns about genocide as "just magas".

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Cemith
04/04/24 11:41:04 AM
#82:


McMarbles posted...
Its almost like there are other issues at play besides Gaza.
I am voting for Biden because Im not throwing trans rights under the bus.
I am voting for Biden because Im not throwing reproductive rights under he bus.
I am voting for Biden because Im not throwing progress on fighting climate change under the bus.
Actually, lets talk about that! Apparently its fine to call anyone who votes for Biden a genocide supporter, right? So can we call anyone who refuses to vote for Biden a transphobe? Can we do that? Is that all right? I mean the math checks out! If we narrow everything down to one issue, and that one issue is trans rights and not Gaza, then its totally valid to do that!

For real, man. It's so much more simple than people make it out to be.

1337toothbrush posted...
So we should ignore *GENOCIDE* and anyone who cares about *GENOCIDE* must be a trump supporter? Democrats ignore people's concerns, dismiss them with "they're either with us or against us", then wonder why they lose. If you want democrats to win, use a better strategy.

Notice how you didn't actually address the point.

Cemith posted...
You can't use Gaza as an excuse for literally obvious reasons. Trump, yes, is that fucking bad.


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Will_VIIII
04/04/24 11:42:46 AM
#83:


Don't mind me I'm just voting against Trump and project 2025.

Only way to successfully do that is to vote for Biden.

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Rexdragon125
04/04/24 11:44:45 AM
#84:


1337toothbrush posted...
I addressed what was said. You dismissed all concerns about genocide as "just magas".
Let's try again. Trump openly says he wants to be dictator, frequently uses Hitler speeches, threatens Jews, and said he'll finish the job in Gaza. Also, the Palestine issue predates Biden.

Now please try not to dismiss MY concerns and squawk about Biden more
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trappedunderice
04/04/24 11:46:05 AM
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Biden lying about something? Must be a day ending in a y
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Cemith
04/04/24 11:46:30 AM
#86:


Rexdragon125 posted...
Let's try again. Trump openly says he wants to be dictator, frequently uses Hitler speeches, threatens Jews, and said he'll finish the job in Gaza. Also, the Palestine issue predates Biden.

Now please try not to dismiss MY concerns and squawk about Biden more

His administration will also outlaw LGBT people, likely leaning in the direction of camps. Don't forget that.

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Will_VIIII
04/04/24 11:47:41 AM
#87:


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025

Not voting for Biden enables this becoming reality. Hope this helps!

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Foppe
04/04/24 11:49:13 AM
#88:


I wont vote on Joe Genocide Biden!
Meanwhile GOP: Lets nuke Gaza!!!

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Cemith
04/04/24 11:50:43 AM
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At least several ITT see the massive glaring problem that not voting Biden presents.

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FortuneCookie
04/04/24 12:01:10 PM
#90:


bluezero posted...
I guess let the fascist dictator in? Is that the point of this topic?

When what a dude's doing is fucked up, it's fucked up.
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04/04/24 12:02:47 PM
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ClayGuida
04/04/24 12:03:12 PM
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Honestly, if you've said you've seen 50 images of malnourished children, they all blend in together.

This just seems like a dumb criticism.

'But have you seen this picture of a murdered aid worker'

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1337toothbrush
04/04/24 12:14:34 PM
#93:


Rexdragon125 posted...
Let's try again. Trump openly says he wants to be dictator, frequently uses Hitler speeches, threatens Jews, and said he'll finish the job in Gaza. Also, the Palestine issue predates Biden.

Now please try not to dismiss MY concerns and squawk about Biden more

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Rexdragon125
04/04/24 12:19:59 PM
#94:


1337toothbrush posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/fd9d0c36.jpg
Yes, the other guy is objectively worse about genocide. You tried
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1337toothbrush
04/04/24 12:25:39 PM
#95:


Rexdragon125 posted...
Yes, the other guy is objectively worse about genocide. You tried
"but the other guy"

You didn't even try.

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Rexdragon125
04/04/24 12:26:56 PM
#96:


1337toothbrush posted...
"but the other guy"

You didn't even try.
So you don't actually give a shit about genocide
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uwnim
04/04/24 12:27:50 PM
#97:


1337toothbrush posted...
Which party do you think would be easier to change to do what we want?
Republican. It had very visible signs of breaking and losing key elections could destroy it. Which creates space for change.

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ScazarMeltex
04/04/24 12:28:03 PM
#98:


1337toothbrush posted...
So we should ignore *GENOCIDE* and anyone who cares about *GENOCIDE* must be a trump supporter? Democrats ignore people's concerns, dismiss them with "they're either with us or against us", then wonder why they lose. If you want democrats to win, use a better strategy.
There is no voting strategy for US voters that stops the Israeli genocide of the Palestinian. I wish there was, but there isn't.

No amount of threatening to withhold your vote matters to the dems. Which is bullshit, but it's true. You saw that during the 2016 primary.

Hillary was confronted from the left, faced a far larger primary challenge than literally anyone expected and what did the dems do? Did they address in any meaningful way any of the things that Bernie or his supporters brought up? No. Did they perhaps take it into account when Hillary chose her running mate? LMAO no. They ran the most entitled and hubristic campaign in world and lost. They aren't going to change, they would rather lose than do anything to disrupt the status quo.It sucks, and I fucking hate them for it. You will not get them to change their position.

Thing is, I hate what the fascists will do the people I care about more. You can take your moral highground if you want, and I hope it keeps you warm at night while women are stripped of their bodily automony, trans people are forced to de transition and begin killing themselves in record numbers, and all the other things the GOP has promised to do. Are in fact planning on dismantling the system to the point that it allows them to do so. You'll have your sense of pride though that you didn't vote for Biden while all of that happens though and won't it feel so nice for you.

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LonelyStoner
04/04/24 12:29:14 PM
#99:


People turning a blind eye to Bidens criticisms just because Trump would be an even worse president (again) are almost as bad as Trumps supporters.

This shouldnt be an argument about which horrible candidate is worse.

You can criticize blatant atrocities no matter which party causes them. Fuck me. This isnt a partisan issue. Those bombs killed innocent children and some of you are acting like its nothing to scoff at because youre against the orange asshole.

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