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Giant_Aspirin
03/29/24 3:01:58 PM
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apparently any negative remarks about cosplayers are an instant, perma-ban on that sub. especially annoying because that rule was created well after i joined and i didn't even know about it.

cosplay in question b/c i know CE

https://www.reddit.com/r/FinalFantasy/comments/1bq05n0/ff7_rebirth_tifa_lockheart_swimsuit_cosplay/

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Tyranthraxus
03/29/24 3:03:30 PM
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Fair, next

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CADE_FOSTER
03/29/24 3:04:13 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Fair, next

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Hayame_Zero
03/29/24 3:05:08 PM
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Yeah, the comments look like a shitshow. The comments pointing how bad it looks are either upvoted or downvoted.

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Murphiroth
03/29/24 3:05:09 PM
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I mean...was the comment really necessary? Of course a cosplayer with professional photos has them significantly touched up, that goes without saying.
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VeggetaX
03/29/24 3:05:12 PM
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You should create a subreddit dedicated into outing those corrupt mods

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MC_BatCommander
03/29/24 3:05:28 PM
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Definitely a lot of photo editing going on there, she doesn't even look like a real person

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IShall_Run_Amok
03/29/24 3:05:31 PM
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If you had told me this person was made by an AI I would tell you that AI has come a long way in the past few years and that this is no longer a representation of its limitations.

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Giant_Aspirin
03/29/24 3:05:54 PM
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y'all really think "can't tell what looks more fake, her face or her chest." violates

Do not harass or mistreat cosplayers or anyone sharing an image of themselves. This includes insulting one's appearance, sexual objectification, accusations of "stealth advertising" offsite socials or similar statements, and general unkindness. If you violate this rule, you will be permanently banned from the subreddit even with no prior warnings. See this announcement for more context.

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murrica
03/29/24 3:06:35 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
"can't tell what looks more fake, her face or her chest." violates

Giant_Aspirin posted...
This includes insulting one's appearance
I mean, yeah, kinda?

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VeggetaX
03/29/24 3:06:35 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
y'all think

"can't tell what looks more fake, her face or her chest." violates
Should have hornyposted instead.

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Giant_Aspirin
03/29/24 3:08:12 PM
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Murphiroth posted...
I mean...was the comment really necessary? Of course a cosplayer with professional photos has them significantly touched up, that goes without saying.

necessary? no. but are most comments on reddit "necessary"? we're just passing time via conversation. and in this instance she looks like a plastic doll with watermelons on her chest.

VeggetaX posted...
You should create a subreddit dedicated into outing those corrupt mods

nah, i just wont visit that anally retentive sub of white knight dorks anymore.

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Giant_Aspirin
03/29/24 3:09:19 PM
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IShall_Run_Amok posted...
If you had told me this person was made by an AI I would tell you that AI has come a long way in the past few years and that this is no longer a representation of its limitations.

you have been permanently banned from /r/finalfantasy

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Crimson_Corsair
03/29/24 3:10:33 PM
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I thought it was AI when I saw the face.

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Giant_Aspirin
03/29/24 3:12:06 PM
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murrica posted...
I mean, yeah, kinda?

shrug. IMO no subjective language was used. i was not saying she looked good or bad. just fake. and that sentiment was echoed by numerous other posters, so it isn't just me that sees it.

oh well. i just wanted to vent and show CE boobs

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i moderate a couple subs and i kinda hate enforcing the rules tbh. i wish people would just behave.

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Sheiky-Baby
03/29/24 3:13:49 PM
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Definitely AI edited.

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murrica
03/29/24 3:14:07 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
shrug. IMO no subjective language was used. i was not saying she looked good or bad. just fake. and that sentiment was echoed by numerous other posters, so it isn't just me that sees it.

oh well. i just wanted to bitch and show CE boobs
I don't disagree with the assessment but it's still technically an insult based on appearance.

Instant permaban is definitely excessive, though, that's a NWD.

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Compsognathus
03/29/24 3:14:14 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
y'all really think "can't tell what looks more fake, her face or her chest." violates
I think telling a cosplayer that you think her face and chest are fake would probably qualify as mistreating them. Like it's just unnecessarily rude and doesn't serve anyone.

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Axiom
03/29/24 3:14:32 PM
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Unlike gamefaqs reddit is mainstream and popular so I wouldn't be surprised if the cosplayer herself saw your comment and reported it
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Ifrit
03/29/24 3:17:34 PM
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Fair, next.

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Giant_Aspirin
03/29/24 3:18:56 PM
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Axiom posted...
Unlike gamefaqs reddit is mainstream and popular so I wouldn't be surprised if the cosplayer herself saw your comment and reported it

she got white knighted by like five dudes within 30 seconds of my comment.

murrica posted...
Instant permaban is definitely excessive, though, that's a NWD.

yeah, i told them that rule was created after i joined the sub and i had no idea. but they reviewed my comment history and that was the only thing i posted so they perma banned my 17 year old account . sad face.

Compsognathus posted...
I think telling a cosplayer that you think her face and chest are fake would probably qualify as mistreating them. Like it's just unnecessarily rude and doesn't serve anyone.

i mean, maybe. but when someone posts in a sub looking for feedback shouldn't we be allowed to be honest? i admit i could have phrased it a little ... nicer?

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iGenesis
03/29/24 3:19:44 PM
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How many more topics are there going to be about a certain FF7 character and her chest?

Does FF7 have any interesting gameplay to talk about?

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Holy_Cloud105
03/29/24 3:20:42 PM
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It looks like an AI photo.

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Sheiky-Baby
03/29/24 3:21:04 PM
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iGenesis posted...
How many more topics are there going to be about a certain FF7 character and her chest?

Does FF7 have any interesting gameplay to talk about?
The soundtrack, the original, is no doubt top 3 imo.

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Giant_Aspirin
03/29/24 3:21:54 PM
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iGenesis posted...
How many more topics are there going to be about a certain FF7 character and her chest?

i do admit i commented in response to being annoyed at the almost constant cosplay spam on those subs. esp when 9/10 of the posters have OF links in their profiles.

Holy_Cloud105 posted...
It looks like an AI photo.

you have been banned from /r/finalfantasy

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BlueBoy675
03/29/24 3:22:13 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
y'all really think "can't tell what looks more fake, her face or her chest." violates
Its definitely rude

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Axiom
03/29/24 3:22:29 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted... she got white knighted by like five dudes within 30 seconds of my comment.
Yeah that changes absolutely nothing

iGenesis posted...
How many more topics are there going to be about a certain FF7 character and her chest?

Does FF7 have any interesting gameplay to talk about?
1/4 of the topics on this board sound like they were made by children that just discovered porn. CE is not the place to look for quality discussion

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Compsognathus
03/29/24 3:33:25 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
i mean, maybe. but when someone posts in a sub looking for feedback shouldn't we be allowed to be honest? i admit i could have phrased it a little ... nicer?
That wasn't feedback. Nothing about your tone or phrasing was constructive.

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Bigpapaplut
03/29/24 4:06:10 PM
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Face is 100% a filter of some kind.

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Dakimakura
03/29/24 4:10:41 PM
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Surely this is the first time someone has used a filter on the internet.

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ChrisTaka
03/29/24 4:20:00 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
i was not saying she looked good or bad. just fake.

an instant perma ban is definitely a little much, but surely you can see how someone would take calling something about someone else fake as bad lol

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NoxObscuras
03/29/24 4:21:08 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
y'all really think "can't tell what looks more fake, her face or her chest." violates
That's rude as hell. Definitely fair next. You're just insulting her, nothing more.

And the fact that it was the only post you'd made on that sub is probably why you got banned. Some old account that's never posted in the sub, coming and flinging insults just screams "this is some trouble maker's alt account"

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Tyranthraxus
03/29/24 4:23:24 PM
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ChrisTaka posted...
an instant perma ban is definitely a little much, but surely you can see how someone would take calling something about someone else fake as bad lol
It's right there in the rules though that you'll get a permanent ban even with no prior warn history. The mods are just following the rules they set.

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Ivany2008
03/29/24 4:24:30 PM
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I would have said her outfit looked more like Rinoa from FF8, then again, I haven't played the newer FF7 remakes.
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Darkfire12
03/29/24 4:24:45 PM
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what kind of ass says that

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Giant_Aspirin
03/29/24 4:27:26 PM
#39:


yeah, i see how my tone / etc lead to how it was interpreted. fair enough.

Tyranthraxus posted...
It's right there in the rules though that you'll get a permanent ban even with no prior warn history. The mods are just following the rules they set.

sure. but it's a pretty strict rule to just instantly perma-ban someone with no mod history on the first offense. and the rules can change out from under you without notice. so i guess you better read the rules of every sub you post on before every post you make.

i've been modded a few times and most subs have a little slack where you get a warning for violating a rule. besides spam bots, i never ban someone on the first offense.

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Tyranthraxus
03/29/24 4:28:24 PM
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Ivany2008 posted...
I would have said her outfit looked more like Rinoa from FF8, then again, I haven't played the newer FF7 remakes.
It's straight from the beach scene in rebirth.

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murrica
03/29/24 4:28:58 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
sure. but it's a pretty strict rule to just instantly perma-ban someone with no mod history on the first offense. and the rules can change out from under you without notice. so i guess you better read the rules of every sub you post on before every post you make.

i've been modded a few times and most subs have a little slack where you get a warning for violating a rule. besides spam bots, i never ban someone on the first offense.
I imagine the larger subs just rubber stamp it because they don't want to bother with a couple thousand marked messages.

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Rharyx211
03/29/24 4:29:24 PM
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So you got in trouble for being rude to someone and making an inappropriate remark about their body?

Tyranthraxus posted...
Fair, next

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NoxObscuras
03/29/24 4:31:00 PM
#43:


Giant_Aspirin posted...
yeah, i see how my tone / etc lead to how it was interpreted. fair enough.

sure. but it's a pretty strict rule to just instantly perma-ban someone with no mod history on the first offense. and the rules can change out from under you without notice. so i guess you better read the rules of every sub you post on before every post you make.

i've been modded a few times and most subs have a little slack where you get a warning for violating a rule. besides spam bots, i never ban someone on the first offense.
But like I said, they had reason to question your motives and not give you the benefit of the doubt.

Giant_Aspirin posted...
yeah, i told them that rule was created after i joined the sub and i had no idea. but they reviewed my comment history and that was the only thing i posted so they perma banned my 17 year old account . sad face.


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Nemu
03/29/24 4:31:46 PM
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Given the context of the picture being horribly edited, seems pretty silly to enforce it.
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Giant_Aspirin
03/29/24 4:32:28 PM
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yeah, i get it. but my account is also 17 years old with 43k karma and the vast majority of my comments are in positive karma, so my account is definitely not a 'troll account'. oh well. i'll appeal the ban in a year and see if they'll let me back.

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ChrisTaka
03/29/24 4:34:31 PM
#46:


Tyranthraxus posted...
It's right there in the rules though that you'll get a permanent ban even with no prior warn history. The mods are just following the rules they set.

very true, that 9th rule is very damning

And looking at the other rules, insulting someone's physical appearance does look like the worst thing you could do there

And TC having no other comment history must have looked very suspicious

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Baphometa
03/29/24 4:35:53 PM
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They used to have a problem with users seriously harassing cosplayers. People were doxxing both famous cosplayers (if you think you know, you know) and no-name cosplayers. There were especially problems with people harassing Black cosplayers playing white characters. At some point, they just started banning anything negative.

But, yeah, it's an overreaction.
Also, thanks for sharing this outfit so I didn't have to on an alt >_>

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