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BombermanGold
03/26/24 5:12:00 PM
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Full title: New Indiana law requires professors to promote 'intellectual diversity' to keep tenure
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https://www.npr.org/2024/03/22/1239534856/new-indiana-law-requires-professors-to-promote-intellectual-diversity-to-keep-te

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A new Indiana law allows universities to revoke a professor's tenure if they don't promote so-called "intellectual diversity" in the classroom.

Supporters of the measure say it will make universities more accepting of conservative students and academics. But many professors worry the law could put their careers in jeopardy for what they say, or don't say, in the classroom.

"I'd say it ends tenure in the state of Indiana as we know it," said Ben Robinson, associate professor of Germanic Studies at Indiana University.
Tenure is supposed to mean indefinite employment for professors, where they can only be fired for cause or some extraordinary circumstance. According to Robinson, the status "allows faculty the freedom to pursue their inquiries and their teaching without fear of reprisal."

But some academics in the state are worried that the new law allows university boards of trustees to interfere with tenure, which normally is handled by university departments.

That's not how supporters see it.

Republican state Sen. Spencer Deery, a former chief of staff for the Purdue University president and the bill's sponsor, said the new law would help conservative students feel more comfortable expressing their opinions on campus.

"The American public and Hoosiers as well are losing faith and trust in higher education," Deery said. "One of the strong reasons for that is, frankly, higher education hasn't done a great job of making every viewpoint feel welcome."

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I have a question for such folks in support of that law.

Exactly, what conservative viewpoints are we talking about?

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hereforemnant
03/26/24 5:13:30 PM
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Not all viewpoints are welcome though Republicans? I could get moderated for making up like 20 examples of something, doesn't mean they should be touted in the 'marketplace of ideas'.
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mystic_belmont
03/26/24 5:14:47 PM
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This is extremely dumb.

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DrizztLink
03/26/24 5:15:37 PM
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Indiana:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/6b761381.jpg

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Maze_
03/26/24 5:16:03 PM
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mystic_belmont posted...
This is extremely dumb.


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HylianFox
03/26/24 5:16:32 PM
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I take it "intellectual diversity" means "the dumb kids are just as good as the smart kids"

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ItsNotA2Mer
03/26/24 5:16:34 PM
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BombermanGold posted...
Exactly, what conservative viewpoints are we talking about?

You know.

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Southernfatman
03/26/24 5:16:58 PM
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"Intellectual diversity" just sounds like having to give idiots time for their opinions, which it is. And you know some conservative student is going to use this against a liberal teacher to get them fired.

Ok, if conservatives get to do this to colleges, then leftist ideas should have to be shared and given time in churches. Since creationism is being forced into schools, then pastors need to start talking about evolution.

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Revisited
03/26/24 5:19:19 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
Indiana:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/6b761381.jpg
Lol but Fullmetal alchemist makes me want to believe that alchemy can be real some day...

Out of those Phrenology is the one that's straight up harmful because it used pseudoscience for unapologetic racism and discrimination.
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hockeybabe89
03/26/24 5:19:45 PM
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wtf now the right loves diversity and safe spaces and participation trophies

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Umbreon
03/26/24 5:22:31 PM
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Let me guess.

"The nazis were misunderstood" is going to be treated equal to "Nazi are evil"?

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GranAures
03/26/24 5:22:57 PM
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BombermanGold posted...
higher education hasn't done a great job of making every viewpoint feel welcome."
Not every viewpoint is equal or should be welcomed in polite society.
BombermanGold posted...
Exactly, what conservative viewpoints are we talking about?
Oh, you know the ones.

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mystic_belmont
03/26/24 5:23:08 PM
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hockeybabe89 posted...
wtf now the right loves diversity and safe spaces and participation trophies

Didn't know conservatives loved the Fairness Doctrine so much.

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Maze_
03/26/24 5:23:47 PM
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Umbreon posted...
Let me guess.

"The nazis were misunderstood" is going to be treated equal to "Nazi are evil"?
"Slavery had nothing to do with the civil war"


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GranAures
03/26/24 5:24:42 PM
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Maze_ posted...
"Slavery had nothing to do with the civil war"
"But what about the BENEFITS of slavery?" - Ron DeSantis

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Revisited
03/26/24 5:24:48 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Lol it was clever (or I should say cunning) to use the dems own word against them like diversity. Kind of reminiscent of the patriot act being about evil spying but the name encourages patriotism and citizen pride.

You see the word diversity and you think oh that's good we'll get to see opinions and discourse from all walks of life but then you think for a moment "wait what does intellectual diversity mean" and knowing the state you know the word is most likely used disingenuously.
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Crimsoness
03/26/24 5:25:34 PM
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Figures

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CreekCo
03/26/24 5:26:15 PM
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hockeybabe89 posted...
wtf now the right loves diversity and safe spaces and participation trophies

Its not a right/left issue. Its a tyranny issue which is apolitical. Theres people shutting down anime sites (left supposedly) and stuff like this (right supposedly). This is why camping on either side is fruitless democracy only works when all sides are accountable.

This will hurt left leaning professors in the state short term but will hurt all actual academics eventually :(

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NoxObscuras
03/26/24 5:27:40 PM
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BombermanGold posted...
Exactly, what conservative viewpoints are we talking about?
Conservatives: "Oh you know the ones..."

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ssb_yunglink2
03/26/24 5:29:24 PM
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Conservatives will call the left snowflakes and then pull some shit like this. No, the entire class and professor shitting on you for thinking the civil war wasnt about slavery isnt censoring conservative views.

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AllCopsAreGood
03/26/24 5:35:37 PM
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This state sucks. I'll always be a Pacers fan, but this state sucks.

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mystic_belmont
03/26/24 5:38:07 PM
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ssb_yunglink2 posted...
Conservatives will call the left snowflakes and then pull some shit like this. No, the entire class and professor shitting on you for thinking the civil war wasnt about slavery isnt censoring conservative views.

Sometimes you need tough love in order to figure out shit like this.

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03/26/24 5:41:41 PM
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ssb_yunglink2 posted...
Conservatives will call the left snowflakes and then pull some shit like this. No, the entire class and professor shitting on you for thinking the civil war wasnt about slavery isnt censoring conservative views.
This is like saying you can't use freedom of speech/private owned business laws as an excuse to deny service to African-Americans/gays/other groups of people a la bakery shops
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mario2000
03/26/24 5:42:56 PM
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Ohhh so NOW they like diversity

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ssb_yunglink2
03/26/24 5:43:52 PM
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Revisited posted...
This is like saying you can't use freedom of speech/private owned business laws as an excuse to deny service to African-Americans/gays/other groups of people a la bakery shops
Im not sure if im just misreading this, but choosing to be a conservative isnt a protected group

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DnDer
03/26/24 5:44:45 PM
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hockeybabe89 posted...
wtf now the right loves diversity and safe spaces and participation trophies

Those last two have always been true.

Have you seen all the statues they put up and flags they love to fly?

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hockeybabe89
03/26/24 5:45:23 PM
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mario2000 posted...
Ohhh so NOW they like diversity

The right loves to co-opt "woke" terms when it benefits them

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DnDer
03/26/24 5:47:28 PM
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CreekCo posted...
democracy only works when all sides are accountable.

When is the left not accountable? The left will eat their own in the name of accountability at the mere suggestion someone was getting away with wrongdoing.

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IShall_Run_Amok
03/26/24 5:49:39 PM
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HylianFox posted...
I take it "intellectual diversity" means "the dumb kids are just as good as the smart kids"

From the article...

Republican state Sen. Spencer Deery, a former chief of staff for the Purdue University president and the bill's sponsor, said the new law would help conservative students feel more comfortable expressing their opinions on campus.

So yes.

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thronedfire2
03/26/24 5:54:54 PM
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so are biology professors going to be required to entertain students saying evolution isn't real?

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BombermanGold
03/26/24 8:02:03 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
so are biology professors going to be required to entertain students saying evolution isn't real?

Going by the pics a few folks posted earlier, probably holding a Charles Darwin book in one hand and The Bible in another.

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McMarbles
03/26/24 8:35:50 PM
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Sure knowledge is good, but have you considered ignorance?

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GranAures
03/26/24 8:36:28 PM
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McMarbles posted...
Sure knowledge is good, but have you considered ignorance?
Some say it's just as good.

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GranAures
03/26/24 8:38:43 PM
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mybbqrules
03/26/24 8:40:02 PM
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Just a fancy way of saying "my opinions mean as much as your facts".

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MirageOfRuins
03/26/24 8:40:14 PM
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The party of facts dont care about your feelings everybody
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EPR-radar
03/26/24 8:42:39 PM
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mario2000 posted...
Ohhh so NOW they like diversity
More than that. It's "affirmative action" for bigoted and stupid conservative views.

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superbot400
03/26/24 8:43:24 PM
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But I thought that promoting diverisity is alway bad? Right? That it's reverse discrimination.

Another example conseratives lying their asses.

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RadDude9000
03/26/24 8:43:46 PM
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Imagine hating freedom of speech and thinking you're the good guys.

Read a history book.

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Heineken14
03/26/24 8:59:03 PM
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Hmm. Sounds like diversity hires to me. Thought that was bad.

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Heineken14
03/26/24 8:59:19 PM
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RadDude9000 posted...
Imagine hating freedom of speech and thinking you're the good guys.

Read a history book.

Can't, republicans are burning them all.

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DrizztLink
03/26/24 8:59:30 PM
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RadDude9000 posted...
Imagine hating freedom of speech and thinking you're the good guys.

Read a history book.
Shut the fuck up, Dill.

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IShall_Run_Amok
03/26/24 9:02:19 PM
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RadDude9000 posted...
Imagine hating freedom of speech and thinking you're the good guys.

Read a history book.
History tells me that freedom of speech is a lie and that knowledge and wisdom has standards, git gud.

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