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FortuneCookie
03/20/24 12:51:46 AM
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(English, French) Nickname given to one by reason of the excessive use of the oath, by God; a hypercritical or intolerant person.

Dictionary of American Family Names (1956) by Elsdon Coles Smith

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HylianFox
03/20/24 12:52:05 AM
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By Jove!

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ablegator
03/20/24 12:52:59 AM
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By cracky!

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Dark_Arbron
03/20/24 12:53:22 AM
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... Huh.

Reminds me of that time I was told that "sand" came from "that space between the sea and land." Whether that's actually the word's origin or not I can't say, but I want to believe it is because that's quite clever.

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BlueKat
03/20/24 1:59:37 AM
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FortuneCookie posted...
(English, French) Nickname given to one by reason of the excessive use of the oath, by God; a hypercritical or intolerant person.

Dictionary of American Family Names (1956) by Elsdon Coles Smith

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Dark_Arbron posted...
Reminds me of that time I was told that "sand" came from "that space between the sea and land." Whether that's actually the word's origin or not I can't say, but I want to believe it is because that's quite clever.
Unfortunately, it comes from the Norse word "sandr"

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Dark_Arbron
03/20/24 4:25:51 AM
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BlueKat posted...
Unfortunately, it comes from the Norse word "sandr"

Killjoy.

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wackyteen
03/20/24 4:29:52 AM
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FortuneCookie posted...
(English, French) Nickname given to one by reason of the excessive use of the oath, by God; a hypercritical or intolerant person.

Dictionary of American Family Names (1956) by Elsdon Coles Smith

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Makes sense. If someone says their rules or justification is 'by God' all the time you're going to create a word for such a person.

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ai123
03/20/24 4:31:42 AM
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Not sure I buy that. Some etymology is just guesswork.

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GranAures
03/20/24 4:43:57 AM
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Makes sense. In their hate they think God is on their side while everybody else should be saying "by God you're stupid."

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Dark_Arbron
03/20/24 4:48:09 AM
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GranAures posted...
Makes sense. In their hate they think God is on their side while everybody else should be saying "by God you're stupid."

Isnt it funny how in ancient times soldiers would pray to God for support before going into battle? Never realizing that if God is going to favor you in this battle, letting you kill many other people, only to likely favor the other side next time, that would suggest theyre treating you like a chess piece?

As far as Im concerned fuck any deity that uses you like that. They deserve no respect or worship whatsoever.

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ai123
03/20/24 4:58:20 AM
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Dark_Arbron posted...
Isnt it funny how in ancient times soldiers would pray to God for support before going into battle? Never realizing that if God is going to favor you in this battle, letting you kill many other people, only to likely favor the other side next time, that would suggest theyre treating you like a chess piece?

As far as Im concerned fuck any deity that uses you like that. They deserve no respect or worship whatsoever.
Depending on the religion, they might believe that if they are devout enough, God will always favour them. If he doesn't, then that's a failure on their part.

Alternatively, they believe the gods are fickle chess players, which makes it doubly important to persuade them to care about you.

Sure, that makes the gods pretty shitty, but we are where we are, and they are more likely to get you through the battle if you a nice to them, than if you tell them they don't deserve your respect.

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Dark_Arbron
03/20/24 5:00:52 AM
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ai123 posted...
Depending on the religion, they might believe that if they are devout enough, God will always favour them. If he doesn't, then that's a failure on their part.

Alternatively, they believe the gods are fickle chess players, which makes it doubly important to persuade them to care about you.

Sure, that makes the gods pretty shitty, but we are where we are, and they are more likely to get you through the battle if you a nice to them, than if you tell them they don't deserve your respect.

Classical mythologies were way better about this. They didnt need to jump through mental hoops to explain how they somehow didnt prove themselves worthy of Gods favor. Classical gods were intentionally written to be fallible characters who usually did not give a fuck.

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ai123
03/20/24 5:06:04 AM
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Dark_Arbron posted...
Classical mythologies were way better about this. They didnt need to jump through mental hoops to explain how they somehow didnt prove themselves worthy of Gods favor. Classical gods were intentionally written to be fallible characters who usually did not give a fuck.

Yeah, Classical gods will fuck around with you to settle their petty squabbles, or even just to see the look on your face.

But people still went to enormous lengths to try and persuade them to play nice with temples, priests, offerings, prayers, etc.

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mercurydude
03/20/24 5:59:09 AM
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In Spanish, "bigote" means mustache.

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BobanMarjanovic
03/20/24 6:41:04 AM
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Bigot is a buzzword that doesn't mean anything.

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Dark_Arbron
03/20/24 6:42:38 AM
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BobanMarjanovic posted...
Bigot is a buzzword that doesn't mean anything.

It has a meaning.

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ai123
03/20/24 6:45:12 AM
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BobanMarjanovic posted...
Bigot is a buzzword that doesn't mean anything.
No, the meaning is well established and understood.

If a person has been called a bigot, they know why.

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GeraldDarko
03/20/24 6:49:52 AM
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Hey
Never knew that
Interesting

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mercurydude
03/20/24 6:52:34 AM
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BobanMarjanovic posted...
Bigot is a buzzword that doesn't mean anything.

Funny how I only hear this from people who routinely engage in and/or defend brazen bigotry.

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Dark_Arbron
03/20/24 6:53:27 AM
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mercurydude posted...
Funny how I only hear this from people who routinely engage in and/or defend brazen bigotry.

ai123 posted...
No, the meaning is well established and understood.

If a person has been called a bigot, they know why.

Remember you leftists call everything racist!?

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sfcalimari
03/20/24 6:53:40 AM
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Everything I'm seeing online says its origin is French, but the original etymology is unclear. God in French is dieu.

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ai123
03/20/24 6:58:55 AM
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Dark_Arbron posted...
Remember you leftists call everything racist!?
'Pointing out racism makes you the real racist!'.

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GranAures
03/20/24 7:27:41 AM
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Dark_Arbron posted...
Remember you leftists call everything racist!?
"You just hate different opinions" as if bigotry is as mundane as an opinion.

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FortuneCookie
03/20/24 12:25:15 PM
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sfcalimari posted...
Everything I'm seeing online says its origin is French, but the original etymology is unclear. God in French is dieu.

God in German is Gott.

Terms or expressions can often carry over from one language to another. How many English-speaking people have used the term "Mi casa es su casa"?
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Yomi
03/20/24 12:36:03 PM
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mercurydude posted...
In Spanish, "bigote" means mustache.
And, funnily enough, the etymology might be the same as bigot.
https://dle.rae.es/bigote

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/0/028ef3c4.png

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BlueKat
03/20/24 11:41:37 PM
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sfcalimari posted...
Everything I'm seeing online says its origin is French, but the original etymology is unclear. God in French is dieu.
Supposedly it's from the French making fun of the British saying, "by God"

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FortuneCookie
03/21/24 12:14:42 AM
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BlueKat posted...
Supposedly it's from the French making fun of the British

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UnholyMudcrab
03/21/24 12:40:42 AM
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sfcalimari posted...
Everything I'm seeing online says its origin is French, but the original etymology is unclear. God in French is dieu.
It was a French mockery of a Norman/English term

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HylianFox
03/21/24 1:19:46 AM
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Dark_Arbron posted...
Isnt it funny how in ancient times soldiers would pray to God for support before going into battle? Never realizing that if God is going to favor you in this battle, letting you kill many other people, only to likely favor the other side next time, that would suggest theyre treating you like a chess piece?

"Nice try, Flanders! I just prayed this morning and we can't both win!"

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Dark_Arbron
03/21/24 5:06:27 AM
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Why does it keep happening to the nicest people?!

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GranAures
03/21/24 5:15:08 AM
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Dark_Arbron posted...
Why does it keep happening to the nicest people?!
Truly, conservative voices are being silenced.

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