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Ivany2008 03/19/24 5:42:49 PM #101:	CrimsonGear80 posted... the original game does not cease to exist, you know. I'd ask you to see my reply.... but apparently someone decided that it was a spoiler and decided to report it for spoiling.... in a game that is nearly 30 years old, in a chat about the game and its remake.... So let me rephrase and say the base story shouldn't be touched in any remake to a game. You can expand on things, but keep the general story the same. <cite>Ivany2008 posted [p:979455871] in "They ruin... [t:80725476]...</cite> <quote>CrimsonGear80 posted... </cite><quote>the original game does not cease to exist, you know.</quote>I'd ask you to see my reply.... but apparently someone decided that it was a spoiler and decided to report it for spoiling.... in a game that is nearly 30 years old, in a chat about the game and its remake.... So let me rephrase and say the base story shouldn't be touched in any remake to a game. You can expand on things, but keep the general story the same.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PowerOats 03/19/24 5:50:56 PM #102:	Was Shenmue 3 really a dream game? <cite>PowerOats posted [p:979455982] in "They ruin... [t:80725476]...</cite> <quote>Was Shenmue 3 really a dream game?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SwayM 03/19/24 5:52:00 PM #103:	PowerOats posted... Was Shenmue 3 really a dream game? Is this a serious question? --- Like 90% of CE topics are the same way lol. CE is edgy/contrarian as f*** and will do anything to troll the TC/OP. -Touch <cite>SwayM posted [p:979456003] in "They ruin... [t:80725476]...</cite> <quote>PowerOats posted... </cite><quote>Was Shenmue 3 really a dream game?</quote>Is this a serious question? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PowerOats 03/19/24 5:53:24 PM #104:	It is <cite>PowerOats posted [p:979456026] in "They ruin... [t:80725476]...</cite> <quote>It is</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SwayM 03/19/24 5:56:24 PM #105:	PowerOats posted... It is Well if you played Shenmue 1 and 2 back in the day, you loved those games dearly. They end on a cliffhanger. When they announced they were finally making 3 fifteen years later, it was a pretty big deal. --- Like 90% of CE topics are the same way lol. CE is edgy/contrarian as f*** and will do anything to troll the TC/OP. -Touch <cite>SwayM posted [p:979456076] in "They ruin... [t:80725476]...</cite> <quote>PowerOats posted... </cite><quote>It is</quote>Well if you played Shenmue 1 and 2 back in the day, you loved those games dearly. They end on a cliffhanger. When they announced they were finally making 3 fifteen years later, it was a pretty big deal. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NoxObscuras 03/19/24 5:56:34 PM #106:	Ivany2008 posted... I'd ask you to see my reply.... but apparently someone decided that it was a spoiler and decided to report it for spoiling.... in a game that is nearly 30 years old, in a chat about the game and its remake.... So let me rephrase and say the base story shouldn't be touched in any remake to a game. You can expand on things, but keep the general story the same. Did you reference *that* scene? Because that's absolutely a spoiler for those that never played the original FF7 --- Steam/Xbox/PSN = NoxObscuras Z490 \| i9-10900K \| EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra \| 32GB DDR4 3600 \| 4TB SSD <cite>NoxObscuras posted [p:979456082] in "They ruin... [t:80725476]...</cite> <quote>Ivany2008 posted... </cite><quote>I'd ask you to see my reply.... but apparently someone decided that it was a spoiler and decided to report it for spoiling.... in a game that is nearly 30 years old, in a chat about the game and its remake.... So let me rephrase and say the base story shouldn't be touched in any remake to a game. You can expand on things, but keep the general story the same.</quote>Did you reference that scene? Because that's absolutely a spoiler for those that never played the original FF7 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Punished_Blinx 03/19/24 5:57:19 PM #107:	A lot of the internet is a vocal minority who mistake their loudness as being something that represents demand. Shenmue 3 was very much an example of that. Final Fantasy VII Remake also is as well in a way. I remember when people hyped it up as Square-Enix 'Break Glass in case of emergency' game and overall sales are just okay. --- A Fallen Mascot <cite>Punished_Blinx posted [p:979456096] in "They ruin... [t:80725476]...</cite> <quote>A lot of the internet is a vocal minority who mistake their loudness as being something that represents demand. Shenmue 3 was very much an example of that. Final Fantasy VII Remake also is as well in a way. I remember when people hyped it up as Square-Enix 'Break Glass in case of emergency' game and overall sales are just okay. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivany2008 03/19/24 5:59:22 PM #108:	NoxObscuras posted... Did you reference *that* scene? Because that's absolutely a spoiler for those that never played the original FF7 Yeah, to my mistake I referenced that scene. I mistakenly believed that people bitching and complaining about FF7s remake and how they ruined it would have played the original. <cite>Ivany2008 posted [p:979456133] in "They ruin... [t:80725476]...</cite> <quote>NoxObscuras posted... </cite><quote>Did you reference that scene? Because that's absolutely a spoiler for those that never played the original FF7</quote>Yeah, to my mistake I referenced that scene. I mistakenly believed that people bitching and complaining about FF7s remake and how they ruined it would have played the original.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PowerOats 03/19/24 6:00:12 PM #109:	SwayM posted... Well if you played Shenmue 1 and 2 back in the day, you loved those games dearly. They end on a cliffhanger. When they announced they were finally making 3 fifteen years later, it was a pretty big deal. Oh. I asked cuz I thought the reception to 3 was lukewarm, and that it ended on a cliffhanger, but I didn't know the first two games also ended on a cliffhanger <cite>PowerOats posted [p:979456152] in "They ruin... [t:80725476]...</cite> <quote>SwayM posted...</cite><quote>Well if you played Shenmue 1 and 2 back in the day, you loved those games dearly. They end on a cliffhanger. When they announced they were finally making 3 fifteen years later, it was a pretty big deal. </quote>Oh. I asked cuz I thought the reception to 3 was lukewarm, and that it ended on a cliffhanger, but I didn't know the first two games also ended on a cliffhanger</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SwayM 03/19/24 6:03:51 PM #110:	PowerOats posted... Oh. I asked cuz I thought the reception to 3 was lukewarm, and that it ended on a cliffhanger, but I didn't know the first two games also ended on a cliffhanger Yeah unfortunately they fumbled the bag hard on 3. You asked if it was a "dream game" I'm assuming because Punished_Blinx said it was part of the "E3 of Dreams" Which isn't to say those all turned out to be masterpieces. But rather for being in the moment, those games being just announced was absolutely legendary. --- Like 90% of CE topics are the same way lol. CE is edgy/contrarian as f*** and will do anything to troll the TC/OP. -Touch <cite>SwayM posted [p:979456221] in "They ruin... [t:80725476]...</cite> <quote>PowerOats posted... </cite><quote>Oh. I asked cuz I thought the reception to 3 was lukewarm, and that it ended on a cliffhanger, but I didn't know the first two games also ended on a cliffhanger</quote>Yeah unfortunately they fumbled the bag hard on 3.You asked if it was a "dream game" I'm assuming because Punished_Blinx said it was part of the "E3 of Dreams" Which isn't to say those all turned out to be masterpieces. But rather for being in the moment, those games being just announced was absolutely legendary. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PowerOats 03/19/24 6:18:28 PM #111:	I gotcha I still feel the same when Squeenix announced FF15 and KH3 within 10 minutes and hype exploded, then it pissed everyone off after it released <cite>PowerOats posted [p:979456479] in "They ruin... [t:80725476]...</cite> <quote>I gotchaI still feel the same when Squeenix announced FF15 and KH3 within 10 minutes and hype exploded, then it pissed everyone off after it released</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DaTwistedGuns 03/19/24 6:26:02 PM #112:	I do hope they remastered the original FF7 once they are done with this. <cite>DaTwistedGuns posted [p:979456607] in "They ruin... [t:80725476]...</cite> <quote>I do hope they remastered the original FF7 once they are done with this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andri_g 03/19/24 6:52:58 PM #113:	Foppe posted... https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/1da41988.jpg SwayM posted... "We waited 27 years for this?!" PowerOats posted... Remake had some of the best lighting ever from Squeenix, but Rebirth looks like they stopped halfway Yes, but the finale will be... https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/721fba5e.jpg ... glorious? lol . RetuenOfDevsman posted... I was so scared when I heard that Square was ruining FF7 that I ran home and put the game in my PS1 just to be sure. Turns out it's the same as it ever was. Same, here. But when I put my copy in, I noticed that something was different... something had changed. ~~It was me.~~ ;P --- '~' <cite>andri_g posted [p:979457041] in "They ruin... [t:80725476]...</cite> <quote>Foppe posted... </cite><quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/1da41988.jpg</quote>SwayM posted... </cite><quote>"We waited 27 years for this?!"</quote>PowerOats posted... </cite><quote>Remake had some of the best lighting ever from Squeenix, but Rebirth looks like they stopped halfway</quote>Yes, but the finale will be...https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/721fba5e.jpg... glorious? lol.RetuenOfDevsman posted... </cite><quote>I was so scared when I heard that Square was ruining FF7 that I ran home and put the game in my PS1 just to be sure. Turns out it's the same as it ever was.</quote>Same, here. But when I put my copy in, I noticed that something was different... something had changed. It was me. ;P </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybabe89 03/19/24 6:59:01 PM #114:	HeartBoss posted... It's a plain. Get into a fight there and you'll see it's not supposed to be a web of overdesigned doodads. Talk about a blob of something, top pic looks like a shot of all the things you'll do once and never again because it's a bloated mess. It's grass and a bridge and some buildings. TIL having 3D models in HD is "overdesigned doodads" --- https://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png she/her <cite>hockeybabe89 posted [p:979457129] in "They ruin... [t:80725476]...</cite> <quote>HeartBoss posted... </cite><quote>It's a plain. Get into a fight there and you'll see it's not supposed to be a web of overdesigned doodads. Talk about a blob of something, top pic looks like a shot of all the things you'll do once and never again because it's a bloated mess.</quote>It's grass and a bridge and some buildings.TIL having 3D models in HD is "overdesigned doodads" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybabe89 03/19/24 7:06:24 PM #115:	Everyone: "We want a FF7 Remake! That would be so cool!" gets FF7 remake years AFTER a very nice looking remaster, that is still available to purchase on all platforms Lots of people: "Why isn't this remake just the exact same story and gameplay with maybe voice acting and a little cleaner graphics?" What were we excited for, in the first place, if we wanted nothing to change? Like, this was one of the most anticipated ideas in gaming for many years --- https://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png she/her <cite>hockeybabe89 posted [p:979457252] in "They ruin... [t:80725476]...</cite> <quote>Everyone: "We want a FF7 Remake! That would be so cool!"gets FF7 remake years AFTER a very nice looking remaster, that is still available to purchase on all platformsLots of people: "Why isn't this remake just the exact same story and gameplay with maybe voice acting and a little cleaner graphics?"What were we excited for, in the first place, if we wanted nothing to change? Like, this was one of the most anticipated ideas in gaming for many years </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssb_yunglink2 03/19/24 7:09:17 PM #116:	hockeybabe89 posted... Everyone: "We want a FF7 Remake! That would be so cool!" gets FF7 remake years AFTER a very nice looking remaster, that is still available to purchase on all platforms Lots of people: "Why isn't this remake just the exact same story and gameplay with maybe voice acting and a little cleaner graphics?" What were we excited for, in the first place, if we wanted nothing to change? Its interesting because the Persona 3 remake was incredibly faithful to the original, even TOO faithful at times, yet still got a lot of shit from fans of the original because not everything was exactly the same. It just kinda shows that remakes are always gonna get shit from certain fans no matter what they do --- Hee Ho <cite>ssb_yunglink2 posted [p:979457303] in "They ruin... [t:80725476]...</cite> <quote>hockeybabe89 posted... </cite><quote>Everyone: "We want a FF7 Remake! That would be so cool!"gets FF7 remake years AFTER a very nice looking remaster, that is still available to purchase on all platformsLots of people: "Why isn't this remake just the exact same story and gameplay with maybe voice acting and a little cleaner graphics?"What were we excited for, in the first place, if we wanted nothing to change?</quote>Its interesting because the Persona 3 remake was incredibly faithful to the original, even TOO faithful at times, yet still got a lot of shit from fans of the original because not everything was exactly the same. It just kinda shows that remakes are always gonna get shit from certain fans no matter what they do </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NoxObscuras 03/19/24 7:13:58 PM #117:	ssb_yunglink2 posted... Its interesting because the Persona 3 remake was incredibly faithful to the original, even TOO faithful at times, yet still got a lot of shit from fans of the original because not everything was exactly the same. It just kinda shows that remakes are always gonna get shit from certain fans no matter what they do Has it really? The only hate I've seen was the fact that they're adding the Aigis epilogue as paid dlc after they said in an interview that it wouldn't be in the game --- Steam/Xbox/PSN = NoxObscuras Z490 \| i9-10900K \| EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra \| 32GB DDR4 3600 \| 4TB SSD <cite>NoxObscuras posted [p:979457372] in "They ruin... [t:80725476]...</cite> <quote>ssb_yunglink2 posted... </cite><quote>Its interesting because the Persona 3 remake was incredibly faithful to the original, even TOO faithful at times, yet still got a lot of shit from fans of the original because not everything was exactly the same. It just kinda shows that remakes are always gonna get shit from certain fans no matter what they do</quote>Has it really? The only hate I've seen was the fact that they're adding the Aigis epilogue as paid dlc after they said in an interview that it wouldn't be in the game </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssb_yunglink2 03/19/24 7:19:05 PM #118:	NoxObscuras posted... Has it really? The only hate I've seen was the fact that they're adding the Aigis epilogue as paid dlc after they said in an interview that it wouldn't be in the game Yes lmao. The new voices and remixed music were absolutely hated by a large portion of the fanbase Ive seen posts on reddit claiming that the changes to tartarus in reload are somehow worse --- Hee Ho <cite>ssb_yunglink2 posted [p:979457466] in "They ruin... [t:80725476]...</cite> <quote>NoxObscuras posted... </cite><quote>Has it really? The only hate I've seen was the fact that they're adding the Aigis epilogue as paid dlc after they said in an interview that it wouldn't be in the game</quote>Yes lmao. The new voices and remixed music were absolutely hated by a large portion of the fanbase Ive seen posts on reddit claiming that the changes to tartarus in reload are somehow worse </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hereforemnant 03/19/24 7:24:20 PM #119:	ssb_yunglink2 posted... Yes lmao. The new voices and remixed music were absolutely hated by a large portion of the fanbase Ive seen posts on reddit claiming that the changes to tartarus in reload are somehow worse It's definitely a whole lot easier, & Fuuka's voice is a massive upgrade to her original, other than that it's a pretty good remake. I would never have spent 69$ on it, I had game pass ultimate 3 months free, but I'm not sure why it would be hated unless it's talking about difficulty or the QoL changes <cite>hereforemnant posted [p:979457537] in "They ruin... [t:80725476]...</cite> <quote>ssb_yunglink2 posted... </cite><quote>Yes lmao. The new voices and remixed music were absolutely hated by a large portion of the fanbase Ive seen posts on reddit claiming that the changes to tartarus in reload are somehow worse </quote>It's definitely a whole lot easier, & Fuuka's voice is a massive upgrade to her original, other than that it's a pretty good remake. I would never have spent 69$ on it, I had game pass ultimate 3 months free, but I'm not sure why it would be hated unless it's talking about difficulty or the QoL changes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CrimsonGear80 03/19/24 7:25:44 PM #120:	Ivany2008 posted... I'd ask you to see my reply.... but apparently someone decided that it was a spoiler and decided to report it for spoiling.... in a game that is nearly 30 years old, in a chat about the game and its remake.... So let me rephrase and say the base story shouldn't be touched in any remake to a game. You can expand on things, but keep the general story the same. a spoiler is a spoiler for games that can have 100+ hours of playtime each a simple "expand on things" isn't going to cut it. why would I want to play a trilogy of games for over 300+ hours when I just know what's going to happen anyway? in this case they pretty much NEEDED to change things up to get people to want and keep playing the games --- PSN: ArsenalGear, NNID: CrimsonG80, XB GT: CrimsonG80 Last game(s) finished: Robocop: Rogue City (PS5), Star Wars Jedi: Survivor (PS5) <cite>CrimsonGear80 posted [p:979457571] in "They ruin... [t:80725476]...</cite> <quote>Ivany2008 posted... </cite><quote>I'd ask you to see my reply.... but apparently someone decided that it was a spoiler and decided to report it for spoiling.... in a game that is nearly 30 years old, in a chat about the game and its remake.... So let me rephrase and say the base story shouldn't be touched in any remake to a game. You can expand on things, but keep the general story the same.</quote>a spoiler is a spoiler for games that can have 100+ hours of playtime each a simple "expand on things" isn't going to cut it. why would I want to play a trilogy of games for over 300+ hours when I just know what's going to happen anyway? in this case they pretty much NEEDED to change things up to get people to want and keep playing the games </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CrimsonGear80 03/19/24 7:26:29 PM #121:	ssb_yunglink2 posted... Its interesting because the Persona 3 remake was incredibly faithful to the original, even TOO faithful at times, yet still got a lot of shit from fans of the original because not everything was exactly the same. It just kinda shows that remakes are always gonna get shit from certain fans no matter what they do it's called being fickle. fandoms are fickle. --- PSN: ArsenalGear, NNID: CrimsonG80, XB GT: CrimsonG80 Last game(s) finished: Robocop: Rogue City (PS5), Star Wars Jedi: Survivor (PS5) <cite>CrimsonGear80 posted [p:979457590] in "They ruin... [t:80725476]...</cite> <quote>ssb_yunglink2 posted... </cite><quote>Its interesting because the Persona 3 remake was incredibly faithful to the original, even TOO faithful at times, yet still got a lot of shit from fans of the original because not everything was exactly the same. It just kinda shows that remakes are always gonna get shit from certain fans no matter what they do</quote>it's called being fickle. fandoms are fickle. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VeggetaX 03/19/24 7:28:02 PM #122:	Look man there will always be people who will complain no matter what. Let them pessimistics lay in their pile of misery. --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys <cite>VeggetaX posted [p:979457617] in "They ruin... [t:80725476]...</cite> <quote>Look man there will always be people who will complain no matter what. Let them pessimistics lay in their pile of misery. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeartBoss 03/19/24 7:29:06 PM #123:	hockeybabe89 posted... It's grass and a bridge and some buildings. TIL having 3D models in HD is "overdesigned doodads" Grass, trees, a bridge, a couple of store tanks for good measure, a castle on the hill, with a garrison wall it looks like, ancient ruined arches next to a river, some airships. TYL superfluous objects just for the sake of sticking structures here, there and everywhere can look tacky to some people who actually just wanted a good game. --- Would you hear my desire? 3DS: 2449 4841 9168 <cite>HeartBoss posted [p:979457640] in "They ruin... [t:80725476]...</cite> <quote>hockeybabe89 posted... </cite><quote>It's grass and a bridge and some buildings.TIL having 3D models in HD is "overdesigned doodads"</quote>Grass, trees, a bridge, a couple of store tanks for good measure, a castle on the hill, with a garrison wall it looks like, ancient ruined arches next to a river, some airships. TYL superfluous objects just for the sake of sticking structures here, there and everywhere can look tacky to some people who actually just wanted a good game. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BakonBitz 03/19/24 7:36:33 PM #124:	HeartBoss posted... Grass, trees, a bridge, a couple of store tanks for good measure, a castle on the hill, with a garrison wall it looks like, ancient ruined arches next to a river, some airships. The castle and garrison walls are part of Kalm. The airships are Gelnikas trying to search for Cloud and the others. Just thought I should place context since it seems you haven't played it, lol. --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA <cite>BakonBitz posted [p:979457766] in "They ruin... [t:80725476]...</cite> <quote>HeartBoss posted... </cite><quote>Grass, trees, a bridge, a couple of store tanks for good measure, a castle on the hill, with a garrison wall it looks like, ancient ruined arches next to a river, some airships.</quote>The castle and garrison walls are part of Kalm. The airships are Gelnikas trying to search for Cloud and the others. Just thought I should place context since it seems you haven't played it, lol. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybabe89 03/19/24 7:41:54 PM #125:	HeartBoss posted... Grass, trees, a bridge, a couple of store tanks for good measure, a castle on the hill, with a garrison wall it looks like, ancient ruined arches next to a river, some airships. TYL superfluous objects just for the sake of sticking structures here, there and everywhere can look tacky to some people who actually just wanted a good game. I hope you haven't bought a video game in 25 years if "There's environments in between the towns and the combat" is a tacky dealbreaker. What an odd opinion. Why are you even on this website? Why do you even think about video games? Fucking Oblivion might be a little too modern and cluttered for you. --- https://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png she/her <cite>hockeybabe89 posted [p:979457851] in "They ruin... [t:80725476]...</cite> <quote>HeartBoss posted... </cite><quote>Grass, trees, a bridge, a couple of store tanks for good measure, a castle on the hill, with a garrison wall it looks like, ancient ruined arches next to a river, some airships. TYL superfluous objects just for the sake of sticking structures here, there and everywhere can look tacky to some people who actually just wanted a good game.</quote>I hope you haven't bought a video game in 25 years if "There's environments in between the towns and the combat" is a tacky dealbreaker. What an odd opinion.Why are you even on this website? Why do you even think about video games? Fucking Oblivion might be a little too modern and cluttered for you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Punished_Blinx 03/19/24 7:42:48 PM #126:	hockeybabe89 posted... Everyone: "We want a FF7 Remake! That would be so cool!" gets FF7 remake years AFTER a very nice looking remaster, that is still available to purchase on all platforms Lots of people: "Why isn't this remake just the exact same story and gameplay with maybe voice acting and a little cleaner graphics?" What were we excited for, in the first place, if we wanted nothing to change? Like, this was one of the most anticipated ideas in gaming for many years It cracks me up when people say they just wanted the same game with better visuals. Like you're telling me that people saw that PS3 tech demo and didn't want a high fidelity Midgar to explore? C'mon. --- A Fallen Mascot <cite>Punished_Blinx posted [p:979457872] in "They ruin... [t:80725476]...</cite> <quote>hockeybabe89 posted... </cite><quote>Everyone: "We want a FF7 Remake! That would be so cool!"gets FF7 remake years AFTER a very nice looking remaster, that is still available to purchase on all platformsLots of people: "Why isn't this remake just the exact same story and gameplay with maybe voice acting and a little cleaner graphics?"What were we excited for, in the first place, if we wanted nothing to change? Like, this was one of the most anticipated ideas in gaming for many years</quote>It cracks me up when people say they just wanted the same game with better visuals. Like you're telling me that people saw that PS3 tech demo and didn't want a high fidelity Midgar to explore? C'mon. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeartBoss 03/19/24 7:43:21 PM #127:	BakonBitz posted... The castle and garrison walls are part of Kalm. The airships are Gelnikas trying to search for Cloud and the others. Just thought I should place context since it seems you haven't played it, lol. This may as well just say "message deleted". If I didn't like Remake and Rebirth is more of the same, why would I play it? --- Would you hear my desire? 3DS: 2449 4841 9168 <cite>HeartBoss posted [p:979457884] in "They ruin... [t:80725476]...</cite> <quote>BakonBitz posted... </cite><quote>The castle and garrison walls are part of Kalm. The airships are Gelnikas trying to search for Cloud and the others. Just thought I should place context since it seems you haven't played it, lol.</quote>This may as well just say "message deleted". If I didn't like Remake and Rebirth is more of the same, why would I play it? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NoxObscuras 03/19/24 7:44:23 PM #128:	ssb_yunglink2 posted... Yes lmao. The new voices and remixed music were absolutely hated by a large portion of the fanbase Ive seen posts on reddit claiming that the changes to tartarus in reload are somehow worse Interesting. I guess I missed all of that by not really following it. I admit I'm part of the problem in the fandom. I haven't actually bought the Persona 3 remake yet, despite thinking it looked good lol (But to be fair, it was my least favorite of the modern games. The final act really dragged on). I'll have to look into what's worse about Tartarus though. Everything I read about it sounded like welcome improvements. --- Steam/Xbox/PSN = NoxObscuras Z490 \| i9-10900K \| EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra \| 32GB DDR4 3600 \| 4TB SSD <cite>NoxObscuras posted [p:979457910] in "They ruin... [t:80725476]...</cite> <quote>ssb_yunglink2 posted... </cite><quote>Yes lmao. The new voices and remixed music were absolutely hated by a large portion of the fanbase Ive seen posts on reddit claiming that the changes to tartarus in reload are somehow worse </quote>Interesting. I guess I missed all of that by not really following it. I admit I'm part of the problem in the fandom. I haven't actually bought the Persona 3 remake yet, despite thinking it looked good lol (But to be fair, it was my least favorite of the modern games. The final act really dragged on).I'll have to look into what's worse about Tartarus though. Everything I read about it sounded like welcome improvements. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PowerOats 03/19/24 7:45:41 PM #129:	I wonder if the GameCube REmake actually came out today, would it be critically panned <cite>PowerOats posted [p:979457932] in "They ruin... [t:80725476]...</cite> <quote>I wonder if the GameCube REmake actually came out today, would it be critically panned</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BakonBitz 03/19/24 7:46:55 PM #130:	HeartBoss posted... This may as well just say "message deleted". If I didn't like Remake and Rebirth is more of the same, why would I play it? Don't take the message so hard. I literally said I wanted to give context to what you were seeing in the image. "It seems you haven't played it" wasn't meant as a dig. --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA <cite>BakonBitz posted [p:979457947] in "They ruin... [t:80725476]...</cite> <quote>HeartBoss posted... </cite><quote>This may as well just say "message deleted". If I didn't like Remake and Rebirth is more of the same, why would I play it?</quote>Don't take the message so hard. I literally said I wanted to give context to what you were seeing in the image. "It seems you haven't played it" wasn't meant as a dig. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Strider102 03/19/24 8:00:05 PM #131:	ssb_yunglink2 posted... Yes lmao. The new voices and remixed music were absolutely hated by a large portion of the fanbase Ive seen posts on reddit claiming that the changes to tartarus in reload are somehow worse I'll admit, when I heard some of the voices and listened to a few of the songs in Reload I was kinda iffy. But everything eventually grew on me. In addition I think Tartarus in Reload is better now. If I have anything negative to say it feels a bit easier than the OG and FES. --- "I dreamt I was a moron." <cite>Strider102 posted [p:979458163] in "They ruin... [t:80725476]...</cite> <quote>ssb_yunglink2 posted... </cite><quote>Yes lmao. The new voices and remixed music were absolutely hated by a large portion of the fanbase Ive seen posts on reddit claiming that the changes to tartarus in reload are somehow worse </quote>I'll admit, when I heard some of the voices and listened to a few of the songs in Reload I was kinda iffy.But everything eventually grew on me. In addition I think Tartarus in Reload is better now.If I have anything negative to say it feels a bit easier than the OG and FES. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PowerOats 03/19/24 8:00:21 PM #132:	Bakonbitz are you enjoying Rebirth? <cite>PowerOats posted [p:979458172] in "They ruin... [t:80725476]...</cite> <quote>Bakonbitz are you enjoying Rebirth?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeartBoss 03/19/24 8:01:12 PM #134:	BakonBitz posted... Don't take the message so hard. I literally said I wanted to give context to what you were seeing in the image. "It seems you haven't played it" wasn't meant as a dig. Oh dang, sorry. It doesn't change my mind, but I do appreciate the context. hockeybabe89 posted... I hope you haven't bought a video game in 25 years if "There's environments in between the towns and the combat" is a tacky dealbreaker. What an odd opinion. Why are you even on this website? Why do you even think about video games? Fucking Oblivion might be a little too modern and cluttered for you. You put quotes around something I didn't say. Oblivion or any Elder Scrolls isn't my thing graphically, but they're good so I played them quite a bit. As you alluded to, there are other games. Do you mind if I visit boards on this website for games I like and games I don't like? And comment on any I choose as long as I'm not insulting users? And may I please not enjoy the end product that is FF7R or FF7R? --- Would you hear my desire? 3DS: 2449 4841 9168 <cite>HeartBoss posted [p:979458186] in "They ruin... [t:80725476]...</cite> <quote>BakonBitz posted... </cite><quote>Don't take the message so hard. I literally said I wanted to give context to what you were seeing in the image. "It seems you haven't played it" wasn't meant as a dig.</quote>Oh dang, sorry. It doesn't change my mind, but I do appreciate the context. hockeybabe89 posted... </cite><quote>I hope you haven't bought a video game in 25 years if "There's environments in between the towns and the combat" is a tacky dealbreaker. What an odd opinion.Why are you even on this website? Why do you even think about video games? Fucking Oblivion might be a little too modern and cluttered for you.</quote>You put quotes around something I didn't say.Oblivion or any Elder Scrolls isn't my thing graphically, but they're good so I played them quite a bit.As you alluded to, there are other games. Do you mind if I visit boards on this website for games I like and games I don't like? And comment on any I choose as long as I'm not insulting users? And may I please not enjoy the end product that is FF7R or FF7R? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BakonBitz 03/19/24 8:01:12 PM #133:	PowerOats posted... Bakonbitz are you enjoying Rebirth? Finished it a few days ago, I loved it a lot. I'm mixed about the ending though, I'm just waiting for Part 3 to see where they're ultimately gonna go with things. --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA <cite>BakonBitz posted [p:979458185] in "They ruin... [t:80725476]...</cite> <quote>PowerOats posted... </cite><quote>Bakonbitz are you enjoying Rebirth?</quote>Finished it a few days ago, I loved it a lot. I'm mixed about the ending though, I'm just waiting for Part 3 to see where they're ultimately gonna go with things. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CrimsonGear80 03/19/24 8:44:55 PM #135:	PowerOats posted... I wonder if the GameCube REmake actually came out today, would it be critically panned no, critics would love it. the "fans" however, would cry about the graphics being too good and the "soul" being ripped out of the franchise or some shit. --- PSN: ArsenalGear, NNID: CrimsonG80, XB GT: CrimsonG80 Last game(s) finished: Robocop: Rogue City (PS5), Star Wars Jedi: Survivor (PS5) <cite>CrimsonGear80 posted [p:979458912] in "They ruin... [t:80725476]...</cite> <quote>PowerOats posted... </cite><quote>I wonder if the GameCube REmake actually came out today, would it be critically panned</quote>no, critics would love it.the "fans" however, would cry about the graphics being too good and the "soul" being ripped out of the franchise or some shit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cynrascal 03/19/24 8:50:53 PM #136:	Strider102 posted... If I have anything negative to say it feels a bit easier than the OG and FES. They did bring in the baton pass from Persona 5. Linked episodes giving party members new mechanics and tweaks to their skills. Yukari's pretty much makes her an OP healer with SP reduction to her healing skills. Theurgy also give the chance for heavy damage once charged up. --- Asocial, not introverted. Know the difference. Maybe those JRPGs villains were on to something about humanity being trash. <cite>Cynrascal posted [p:979458987] in "They ruin... [t:80725476]...</cite> <quote>Strider102 posted... </cite><quote>If I have anything negative to say it feels a bit easier than the OG and FES.</quote>They did bring in the baton pass from Persona 5. Linked episodes giving party members new mechanics and tweaks to their skills. Yukari's pretty much makes her an OP healer with SP reduction to her healing skills. Theurgy also give the chance for heavy damage once charged up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssb_yunglink2 03/19/24 8:53:58 PM #137:	Strider102 posted... I'll admit, when I heard some of the voices and listened to a few of the songs in Reload I was kinda iffy. But everything eventually grew on me. In addition I think Tartarus in Reload is better now. If I have anything negative to say it feels a bit easier than the OG and FES. Just having full party control makes it easier by default id say. A lot of quality of life was added, but the enemies werent exactly changed enough to adjust to the player having more options. I agree that its easier than FES. However, I still think its a great remake that people were freaking out about because they wouldnt give the new stuff a chance --- Hee Ho <cite>ssb_yunglink2 posted [p:979459029] in "They ruin... [t:80725476]...</cite> <quote>Strider102 posted... </cite><quote>I'll admit, when I heard some of the voices and listened to a few of the songs in Reload I was kinda iffy.But everything eventually grew on me. In addition I think Tartarus in Reload is better now.If I have anything negative to say it feels a bit easier than the OG and FES.</quote>Just having full party control makes it easier by default id say. A lot of quality of life was added, but the enemies werent exactly changed enough to adjust to the player having more options. I agree that its easier than FES. However, I still think its a great remake that people were freaking out about because they wouldnt give the new stuff a chance </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 03/19/24 10:53:58 PM #138:	SwayM posted... Like you would go outside. Reducing the image down to better graphics is hilarious. The first image is something I want to explore. This is a living vibrant world that feels very fleshed out and interesting. In that exploration I guarantee there are numerous things to discover and do. Also, selling the idea of the world feeling real and being immersed in it is so much more than just wow pretty graphics. Gamers reducing everything down to a narrow view and being super pessimistic, yet another day that ends in Y. So you can walk on the aqueduct and find the church on top of the mountain in the remake? Also anybody who says that is talking about the story. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms, Switch: SW-1900-5502-7912 <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:979460911] in "They ruin... [t:80725476]...</cite> <quote>SwayM posted...</cite><quote>Like you would go outside. Reducing the image down to better graphics is hilarious. The first image is something I want to explore. This is a living vibrant world that feels very fleshed out and interesting. In that exploration I guarantee there are numerous things to discover and do. Also, selling the idea of the world feeling real and being immersed in it is so much more than just wow pretty graphics. Gamers reducing everything down to a narrow view and being super pessimistic, yet another day that ends in Y. </quote>So you can walk on the aqueduct and find the church on top of the mountain in the remake?Also anybody who says that is talking about the story. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BakonBitz 03/19/24 11:06:08 PM #139:	Revelation34 posted... So you can walk on the aqueduct and find the church on top of the mountain in the remake? Actually yeah. --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA <cite>BakonBitz posted [p:979461060] in "They ruin... [t:80725476]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted... </cite><quote>So you can walk on the aqueduct and find the church on top of the mountain in the remake?</quote>Actually yeah. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SwayM 03/19/24 11:37:21 PM #141:	Revelation34 posted... So you can walk on the aqueduct and find the church on top of the mountain in the remake? In the very same post you quoted: Gamers reducing everything down to a narrow view and being super pessimistic, yet another day that ends in Y. --- Like 90% of CE topics are the same way lol. CE is edgy/contrarian as f*** and will do anything to troll the TC/OP. -Touch <cite>SwayM posted [p:979461449] in "They ruin... [t:80725476]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted... </cite><quote>So you can walk on the aqueduct and find the church on top of the mountain in the remake?</quote>In the very same post you quoted: <quote>Gamers reducing everything down to a narrow view and being super pessimistic, yet another day that ends in Y.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 03/20/24 1:56:06 AM #142:	SwayM posted... In the very same post you quoted: The story is still shit for being changed. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms, Switch: SW-1900-5502-7912 <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:979462841] in "They ruin... [t:80725476]...</cite> <quote>SwayM posted...</cite><quote>In the very same post you quoted: </quote>The story is still shit for being changed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Punished_Blinx 03/20/24 2:04:01 AM #143:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Would you be happy with a Mario RPG style remake for Chrono Trigger with voice acting? Is that what people want so bad? To me that just sounds like it would lose a lot of charm compared to the original. I don't think any remake for Chrono Trigger would work. --- A Fallen Mascot <cite>Punished_Blinx posted [p:979462911] in "They ruin... [t:80725476]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Would you be happy with a Mario RPG style remake for Chrono Trigger with voice acting? Is that what people want so bad? To me that just sounds like it would lose a lot of charm compared to the original. I don't think any remake for Chrono Trigger would work. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BakonBitz 03/20/24 2:07:52 AM #144:	Punished_Blinx posted... Would you be happy with a Mario RPG style remake for Chrono Trigger with voice acting? Is that what people want so bad? To me that just sounds like it would lose a lot of charm compared to the original. I don't think any remake for Chrono Trigger would work. I mean the SMRPG remake was still incredibly charming. That kind of thing could work, IMO. --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA <cite>BakonBitz posted [p:979462938] in "They ruin... [t:80725476]...</cite> <quote>Punished_Blinx posted... </cite><quote>Would you be happy with a Mario RPG style remake for Chrono Trigger with voice acting? Is that what people want so bad? To me that just sounds like it would lose a lot of charm compared to the original. I don't think any remake for Chrono Trigger would work.</quote>I mean the SMRPG remake was still incredibly charming. That kind of thing could work, IMO. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CrimsonGear80 03/20/24 2:15:25 AM #146:	Revelation34 posted... The story is still shit for being changed. how convincing --- PSN: ArsenalGear, NNID: CrimsonG80, XB GT: CrimsonG80 Last game(s) finished: Robocop: Rogue City (PS5), Star Wars Jedi: Survivor (PS5) <cite>CrimsonGear80 posted [p:979462992] in "They ruin... [t:80725476]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted... </cite><quote>The story is still shit for being changed.</quote>how convincing </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CrimsonGear80 03/20/24 2:15:50 AM #147:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] then they would actually play it and find something to complain about --- PSN: ArsenalGear, NNID: CrimsonG80, XB GT: CrimsonG80 Last game(s) finished: Robocop: Rogue City (PS5), Star Wars Jedi: Survivor (PS5) <cite>CrimsonGear80 posted [p:979462995] in "They ruin... [t:80725476]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> then they would actually play it and find something to complain about </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Punished_Blinx 03/20/24 2:23:34 AM #149:	BakonBitz posted... I mean the SMRPG remake was still incredibly charming. That kind of thing could work, IMO. I think the difference for me is that the pixel art for Chrono Trigger is more timeless than SMRPG. It's definitely a tough one to nail. --- A Fallen Mascot <cite>Punished_Blinx posted [p:979463060] in "They ruin... [t:80725476]...</cite> <quote>BakonBitz posted... </cite><quote>I mean the SMRPG remake was still incredibly charming. That kind of thing could work, IMO.</quote>I think the difference for me is that the pixel art for Chrono Trigger is more timeless than SMRPG. It's definitely a tough one to nail. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CrimsonGear80 03/20/24 2:33:20 AM #150:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] it's not like the FF7 remake was shadow dropped. if people were interested in the games, they KNEW that the gameplay would be different and that the story would not be 100% exactly like the originals. they interviewed the staff months before the game released and they confirmed all of this. mountains of video footage was released to show how the game would look. the battle system was known from almost the very start to be a real-time action battle system. this was NOT going to be the original game, and everyone knew that before the first part released. so if these people knew about all these changes yet still bought and played the game and STILL complained about all those things, then I have no reason to take them seriously. Honestly, they are clearly hate-playing the games just to complain at this point... and also people IN THIS TOPIC complained about the graphics, so stop saying that no one did. --- PSN: ArsenalGear, NNID: CrimsonG80, XB GT: CrimsonG80 Last game(s) finished: Robocop: Rogue City (PS5), Star Wars Jedi: Survivor (PS5) <cite>CrimsonGear80 posted [p:979463133] in "They ruin... [t:80725476]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> it's not like the FF7 remake was shadow dropped. if people were interested in the games, they KNEW that the gameplay would be different and that the story would not be 100% exactly like the originals. they interviewed the staff months before the game released and they confirmed all of this. mountains of video footage was released to show how the game would look. the battle system was known from almost the very start to be a real-time action battle system. this was NOT going to be the original game, and everyone knew that before the first part released.so if these people knew about all these changes yet still bought and played the game and STILL complained about all those things, then I have no reason to take them seriously. Honestly, they are clearly hate-playing the games just to complain at this point...and also people IN THIS TOPIC complained about the graphics, so stop saying that no one did. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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