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s0nicfan 03/11/24 3:17:17 PM #1:	Didnt see any topics on it, but gangs have more or less taken control of the entire nation. They're threatening civil war and genocide if the government doesn't resign. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-68531759 More details in the article, but basically: A prime minister unable to return, violent gangs in control of the capital and dead bodies piling up on the streets: Haiti is currently a nation about as close to a failed state as it's possible to be. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:979312983] in Haiti on t... [t:80718859]...</cite> <quote>Didnt see any topics on it, but gangs have more or less taken control of the entire nation. They're threatening civil war and genocide if the government doesn't resign. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-68531759 More details in the article, but basically:<quote>A prime minister unable to return, violent gangs in control of the capital and dead bodies piling up on the streets: Haiti is currently a nation about as close to a failed state as it's possible to be.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 03/11/24 3:18:14 PM #2:	Yeah I've heard overwhelming warnings telling people not to travel there --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:979313000] in Haiti on t... [t:80718859]...</cite> <quote>Yeah I've heard overwhelming warnings telling people not to travel there </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xenogears15 03/11/24 3:18:41 PM #3:	Absolutely sad to see. I was wondering why I was seeing so many Hatian asylum seekers and immigrants lately. I knew things were bad over there, but not THAT bad. At the same time, I really hope we don't go over there to reestablish order, but I don't know what else can be done. --- This rant was brought to you by your local random thinker. I'm as Canadian as Wayne Gretzky crashing a snowmobile into a moose. - JIC X <cite>Xenogears15 posted [p:979313006] in Haiti on t... [t:80718859]...</cite> <quote>Absolutely sad to see. I was wondering why I was seeing so many Hatian asylum seekers and immigrants lately. I knew things were bad over there, but not THAT bad. At the same time, I really hope we don't go over there to reestablish order, but I don't know what else can be done. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
modena 03/11/24 3:20:07 PM #4:	I read earlier Marines were sent in to help get U.S personnel out from the embassy overnight. --- I'm surrounded <cite>modena posted [p:979313029] in Haiti on t... [t:80718859]...</cite> <quote>I read earlier Marines were sent in to help get U.S personnel out from the embassy overnight. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 03/11/24 3:20:44 PM #5:	Huh. How do you come back from that? --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:979313048] in Haiti on t... [t:80718859]...</cite> <quote>Huh. How do you come back from that? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 03/11/24 3:21:34 PM #6:	It really can't be overstated just how badly the rest of the world has failed Haiti over the course of its history. --- http://i.imgur.com/VeNBg.gif http://i.imgur.com/gd5jC8q.gif http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif http://i.imgur.com/3p29JqP.gif <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:979313060] in Haiti on t... [t:80718859]...</cite> <quote>It really can't be overstated just how badly the rest of the world has failed Haiti over the course of its history. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lordgold666 03/11/24 3:22:16 PM #7:	Didnt drumpf used to call haiti a shithole? --- "May the Father of Understanding guide you." <cite>Lordgold666 posted [p:979313081] in Haiti on t... [t:80718859]...</cite> <quote>Didnt drumpf used to call haiti a shithole? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xenogears15 03/11/24 3:22:18 PM #8:	Guide posted... Huh. How do you come back from that? You wait for a warlord to rise from the ashes of the old country to reestablish order, then give them diplomatic recognition. I do not see any othee way, honestly. --- This rant was brought to you by your local random thinker. I'm as Canadian as Wayne Gretzky crashing a snowmobile into a moose. - JIC X <cite>Xenogears15 posted [p:979313082] in Haiti on t... [t:80718859]...</cite> <quote>Guide posted... </cite><quote>Huh. How do you come back from that?</quote>You wait for a warlord to rise from the ashes of the old country to reestablish order, then give them diplomatic recognition. I do not see any othee way, honestly. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cocytus 03/11/24 3:22:38 PM #10:	Yeah I heard --- You're never ever fully dressed without a smile! <cite>Cocytus posted [p:979313091] in Haiti on t... [t:80718859]...</cite> <quote>Yeah I heard </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hayame_Zero 03/11/24 3:22:49 PM #11:	Yeah, the current Prime Minister planned the assassination of the last one per the judge who oversaw the case. --- ...I think I'm done here... <cite>Hayame_Zero posted [p:979313100] in Haiti on t... [t:80718859]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, the current Prime Minister planned the assassination of the last one per the judge who oversaw the case. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkace77450 03/11/24 3:23:32 PM #12:	UnholyMudcrab posted... It really can't be overstated just how badly the rest of the world has failed Haiti over the course of its history. Haiti remains my go-to counter to every moronic conservative pointing to Venezuela as proof that socialism doesn't work. <cite>darkace77450 posted [p:979313112] in Haiti on t... [t:80718859]...</cite> <quote>UnholyMudcrab posted... </cite><quote>It really can't be overstated just how badly the rest of the world has failed Haiti over the course of its history.</quote>Haiti remains my go-to counter to every moronic conservative pointing to Venezuela as proof that socialism doesn't work.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 03/11/24 3:27:06 PM #13:	darkace77450 posted... Haiti remains my go-to counter to every moronic conservative pointing to Venezuela as proof that socialism doesn't work. <_> I've read this over 3 times and I don't get it. Haiti, the failed state, is the counter to the antisocialist argument? --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:979313188] in Haiti on t... [t:80718859]...</cite> <quote>darkace77450 posted... </cite><quote>Haiti remains my go-to counter to every moronic conservative pointing to Venezuela as proof that socialism doesn't work.</quote><_>I've read this over 3 times and I don't get it. Haiti, the failed state, is the counter to the antisocialist argument? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
streamofthesky 03/11/24 3:32:53 PM #14:	Hayame_Zero posted... Yeah, the current Prime Minister planned the assassination of the last one per the judge who oversaw the case. Pretty much. Which is why I've constantly pushed back at the calls for the US to "intervene" militarily. Because those requests came from the illegitimate government of Haiti, asking us to help them quash the rightful protests to their usurpation of power via a coup. Seriously fuck the current Haitian government and I hope the "tree of liberty" is nourished soon (which is about as vague as I can get w/ my sentiments on here, I think) <cite>streamofthesky posted [p:979313294] in Haiti on t... [t:80718859]...</cite> <quote>Hayame_Zero posted... </cite><quote>Yeah, the current Prime Minister planned the assassination of the last one per the judge who oversaw the case.</quote>Pretty much.Which is why I've constantly pushed back at the calls for the US to "intervene" militarily. Because those requests came from the illegitimate government of Haiti, asking us to help them quash the rightful protests to their usurpation of power via a coup.Seriously fuck the current Haitian government and I hope the "tree of liberty" is nourished soon (which is about as vague as I can get w/ my sentiments on here, I think)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 03/11/24 3:39:07 PM #15:	UnholyMudcrab posted... It really can't be overstated just how badly the rest of the world has failed Haiti over the course of its history. Not just failed, actively fucked them over for decades at a time. --- Furthermore, The GOP is a Fascist Organization and must be destroyed <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:979313417] in Haiti on t... [t:80718859]...</cite> <quote>UnholyMudcrab posted... </cite><quote>It really can't be overstated just how badly the rest of the world has failed Haiti over the course of its history.</quote>Not just failed, actively fucked them over for decades at a time. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SgtBash 03/11/24 3:39:27 PM #16:	Could another country step in to temporarily take over the country, then once they have the situation under control, hand it over to a caretaker Government until elections could be held? It just seems rather sad that the country has been in decline for decades. I wonder if Wyclef Jean & Jimmy Jean-Louis could use their celebrity status as famous Haitians to call for an end to the violence. --- Come to Relax https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1558-relaxation-island <cite>SgtBash posted [p:979313426] in Haiti on t... [t:80718859]...</cite> <quote>Could another country step in to temporarily take over the country, then once they have the situation under control, hand it over to a caretaker Government until elections could be held?It just seems rather sad that the country has been in decline for decades. I wonder if Wyclef Jean & Jimmy Jean-Louis could use their celebrity status as famous Haitians to call for an end to the violence. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkace77450 03/11/24 3:44:02 PM #18:	Guide posted... <_> I've read this over 3 times and I don't get it. Haiti, the failed state, is the counter to the antisocialist argument? Conservatives often point to Venezuela as proof that socialism doesn't work. In so doing, they ignore all the examples of successfully implemented socialist policies (particularly regarding healthcare) in other, more successful countries. By highlighting Haiti, a capitalist country screwed over by other capitalist countries, one demonstrates how flawed an argument predicated on cherrypicked examples is. <cite>darkace77450 posted [p:979313511] in Haiti on t... [t:80718859]...</cite> <quote>Guide posted... </cite><quote><_>I've read this over 3 times and I don't get it. Haiti, the failed state, is the counter to the antisocialist argument?</quote>Conservatives often point to Venezuela as proof that socialism doesn't work. In so doing, they ignore all the examples of successfully implemented socialist policies (particularly regarding healthcare) in other, more successful countries. By highlighting Haiti, a capitalist country screwed over by other capitalist countries, one demonstrates how flawed an argument predicated on cherrypicked examples is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 03/11/24 3:47:37 PM #19:	darkace77450 posted... Conservatives often point to Venezuela as proof that socialism doesn't work. In so doing, they ignore all the examples of successfully implemented socialist policies (particularly regarding healthcare) in other, more successful countries. By highlighting Haiti, a capitalist country screwed over by other capitalist countries, one demonstrates how flawed an argument predicated on cherrypicked examples is. That broadly makes sense. I was simply confused because arguing against capitalism is not necessarily arguing as a counter to antisocialist arguments. --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:979313575] in Haiti on t... [t:80718859]...</cite> <quote>darkace77450 posted... </cite><quote>Conservatives often point to Venezuela as proof that socialism doesn't work. In so doing, they ignore all the examples of successfully implemented socialist policies (particularly regarding healthcare) in other, more successful countries. By highlighting Haiti, a capitalist country screwed over by other capitalist countries, one demonstrates how flawed an argument predicated on cherrypicked examples is.</quote>That broadly makes sense. I was simply confused because arguing against capitalism is not necessarily arguing as a counter to antisocialist arguments. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 03/11/24 4:07:48 PM #21:	SgtBash posted... I wonder if Wyclef Jean This dude literally stole millions from hurricane relief charity for Haiti. Why do you want him to do anything? --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:979313932] in Haiti on t... [t:80718859]...</cite> <quote>SgtBash posted... </cite><quote>I wonder if Wyclef Jean</quote>This dude literally stole millions from hurricane relief charity for Haiti. Why do you want him to do anything? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CobraGT 03/11/24 4:10:00 PM #22:	So the gang plan is to work out a pecking order first and then to woo government officials and corporations? This is why you need strong trade unions. The people are not organized. --- GoldenSun/Crossbone Isle diagrams/ 18 teams known https://photobucket.com/u/SwordOfWheat/a/9990a2ee-25f3-4242-ae79-7d2d4b882be4 <cite>CobraGT posted [p:979313969] in Haiti on t... [t:80718859]...</cite> <quote>So the gang plan is to work out a pecking order first and then to woo government officials and corporations?This is why you need strong trade unions. The people are not organized. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Goldice 03/11/24 4:14:58 PM #23:	Guide posted... Huh. How do you come back from that? You don't. Not for a long time. --- New England Patriots: Super Bowl XXXVI, XXXVIII, XXXIX, XLIX, LI, LIII Champions <cite>Goldice posted [p:979314056] in Haiti on t... [t:80718859]...</cite> <quote>Guide posted...</cite><quote>Huh. How do you come back from that?</quote>You don't. Not for a long time. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SgtBash 03/11/24 6:10:31 PM #24:	Tyranthraxus posted... This dude literally stole millions from hurricane relief charity for Haiti. Why do you want him to do anything? Read & quote the rest of the post --- Come to Relax https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1558-relaxation-island <cite>SgtBash posted [p:979316164] in Haiti on t... [t:80718859]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite><quote>This dude literally stole millions from hurricane relief charity for Haiti. Why do you want him to do anything?</quote>Read & quote the rest of the post </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 03/11/24 6:13:05 PM #25:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] O'Brien or Destroyer? --- See profile pic <cite>Irony posted [p:979316213] in Haiti on t... [t:80718859]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> O'Brien or Destroyer? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkDoc 03/11/24 7:02:17 PM #26:	https://youtube.com/watch?v=M7qp3K9Rajk <cite>DarkDoc posted [p:979317123] in Haiti on t... [t:80718859]...</cite> <quote>https://youtube.com/watch?v=M7qp3K9Rajk</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ClayGuida 03/11/24 7:04:08 PM #27:	Yea, they've been completely fucked over by that assassination. I'm unsure what's happening now, but the first person to rise to power was the leader of a gang and a former top police officer. --- lolAmerica <cite>ClayGuida posted [p:979317164] in Haiti on t... [t:80718859]...</cite> <quote>Yea, they've been completely fucked over by that assassination. I'm unsure what's happening now, but the first person to rise to power was the leader of a gang and a former top police officer. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
angeleyes94 03/11/24 7:04:58 PM #28:	The new president is a gang boss called Jimmy barbecue and he eats people? --- You aren't even really reading my posts; you're just staring at your e-mail client and fondly reminiscing about that hobo you stabbed to death. :P <cite>angeleyes94 posted [p:979317188] in Haiti on t... [t:80718859]...</cite> <quote>The new president is a gang boss called Jimmy barbecue and he eats people? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Killmonger 03/11/24 7:05:07 PM #29:	On the verge? What does a country look like if it has collapsed, then? --- "I will die of cancer before I let another dude finger my a******." - ZeroX91 <cite>Killmonger posted [p:979317191] in Haiti on t... [t:80718859]...</cite> <quote>On the verge? What does a country look like if it has collapsed, then? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 03/11/24 7:05:48 PM #30:	UnholyMudcrab posted... It really can't be overstated just how badly the rest of the world has failed Haiti over the course of its history. --- "Be good to yourself, because everyone else in the world is probably out to get you." - Dr. Harleen Quinzel <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:979317202] in Haiti on t... [t:80718859]...</cite> <quote>UnholyMudcrab posted... </cite><quote>It really can't be overstated just how badly the rest of the world has failed Haiti over the course of its history.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 03/11/24 7:07:37 PM #31:	SgtBash posted... Could another country step in to temporarily take over the country, then once they have the situation under control, hand it over to a caretaker Government until elections could be held? It just seems rather sad that the country has been in decline for decades. I wonder if Wyclef Jean & Jimmy Jean-Louis could use their celebrity status as famous Haitians to call for an end to the violence. outside intervention is why Haiti is the way it is. it has a history of leaders being assassinated or deposed all the way back to the 1500s. This is just the latest one. the US didn't give enough aid after that major hurricane disaster a few years back(no, Trump throwing paper towels at people doesn't help rebuild after almost the whole country is destroyed). almost all the aid we sent was misused and and didn't help the people at all. --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:979317238] in Haiti on t... [t:80718859]...</cite> <quote>SgtBash posted... </cite><quote>Could another country step in to temporarily take over the country, then once they have the situation under control, hand it over to a caretaker Government until elections could be held?It just seems rather sad that the country has been in decline for decades. I wonder if Wyclef Jean & Jimmy Jean-Louis could use their celebrity status as famous Haitians to call for an end to the violence.</quote>outside intervention is why Haiti is the way it is. it has a history of leaders being assassinated or deposed all the way back to the 1500s. This is just the latest one.the US didn't give enough aid after that major hurricane disaster a few years back(no, Trump throwing paper towels at people doesn't help rebuild after almost the whole country is destroyed). almost all the aid we sent was misused and and didn't help the people at all. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 03/11/24 7:09:18 PM #32:	SgtBash posted... Could another country step in to temporarily take over the country, then once they have the situation under control, hand it over to a caretaker Government until elections could be held? https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/1f7dc3c3.jpg --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:979317281] in Haiti on t... [t:80718859]...</cite> <quote>SgtBash posted... </cite><quote>Could another country step in to temporarily take over the country, then once they have the situation under control, hand it over to a caretaker Government until elections could be held?</quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/1f7dc3c3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ubergeneral3 03/11/24 11:42:02 PM #33:	SgtBash posted... Could another country step in to temporarily take over the country, then once they have the situation under control, hand it over to a caretaker Government until elections could be held? How could this possibly go wrong? --- Guillotine/Gulag 2020. You didn't vote Bernie now pay the price. Eat the Rich <cite>Ubergeneral3 posted [p:979321965] in Haiti on t... [t:80718859]...</cite> <quote>SgtBash posted... </cite><quote>Could another country step in to temporarily take over the country, then once they have the situation under control, hand it over to a caretaker Government until elections could be held?</quote>How could this possibly go wrong? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lamdakastel 03/11/24 11:52:04 PM #34:	Haiti has no natural resources to be taken. Thats why nobody want to go intervene. Its loss with no chance of profits. <cite>lamdakastel posted [p:979322073] in Haiti on t... [t:80718859]...</cite> <quote>Haiti has no natural resources to be taken. Thats why nobody want to go intervene. Its loss with no chance of profits. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_____Cait 03/11/24 11:57:26 PM #35:	So is the government the villain, or the gangs, or is it two crappy groups ruining it for the innocent civilians? I know the US pretty much ruined the place years ago, but what else is going on here? --- ORAS secret base: http://imgur.com/V9nAVrd 3DS friend code: 0173-1465-1236 <cite>_____Cait posted [p:979322143] in Haiti on t... [t:80718859]...</cite> <quote>So is the government the villain, or the gangs, or is it two crappy groups ruining it for the innocent civilians?I know the US pretty much ruined the place years ago, but what else is going on here? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 03/12/24 12:01:16 AM #36:	Is this all started from the Prime Minister's murder? <cite>Zikten posted [p:979322195] in Haiti on t... [t:80718859]...</cite> <quote>Is this all started from the Prime Minister's murder?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ForsakenHermit 03/12/24 12:05:10 AM #37:	Two centuries of turmoil are enough, when will Haiti break the cycle? --- Beware the fanatic! Too often his cure is deadlier by far than the evil he denounces!-Stan Lee RIP Make Arcades Great Again! <cite>ForsakenHermit posted [p:979322239] in Haiti on t... [t:80718859]...</cite> <quote>Two centuries of turmoil are enough, when will Haiti break the cycle? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CobraGT 03/12/24 2:00:30 AM #38:	Potentially Haiti has natural resources. They grow half the world velveteen oil. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysopogon_zizanioides and they could grow other high end herbs or spices. Maybe rare orchids. Haiti has an awesome coastline and bay. There has to be a way of turning that to an asset. Before C Columbus it was a great place to live. --- GoldenSun/Crossbone Isle diagrams/ 18 teams known https://photobucket.com/u/SwordOfWheat/a/9990a2ee-25f3-4242-ae79-7d2d4b882be4 <cite>CobraGT posted [p:979323351] in Haiti on t... [t:80718859]...</cite> <quote>Potentially Haiti has natural resources. They grow half the world velveteen oil. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysopogon_zizanioidesand they could grow other high end herbs or spices. Maybe rare orchids.Haiti has an awesome coastline and bay. There has to be a way of turning that to an asset.Before C Columbus it was a great place to live. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 03/12/24 2:28:31 AM #39:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMLkBTgxPhU <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:979323515] in Haiti on t... [t:80718859]...</cite> <quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMLkBTgxPhU</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ninjaman44 03/12/24 3:12:25 AM #40:	Saw that a lot of people were posting videos online of that Barbecue guy eating someone's leg. This is fucking insane. <cite>ninjaman44 posted [p:979323807] in Haiti on t... [t:80718859]...</cite> <quote>Saw that a lot of people were posting videos online of that Barbecue guy eating someone's leg. This is fucking insane. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 03/12/24 3:30:52 AM #41:	ninjaman44 posted... Saw that a lot of people were posting videos online of that Barbecue guy eating someone's leg. This is fucking insane. Wait for real? <cite>Zikten posted [p:979323939] in Haiti on t... [t:80718859]...</cite> <quote>ninjaman44 posted... </cite><quote>Saw that a lot of people were posting videos online of that Barbecue guy eating someone's leg. This is fucking insane.</quote>Wait for real?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueKat 03/12/24 3:48:02 AM #42:	( -_-) --- There is no good. There is no evil. There just is. <cite>BlueKat posted [p:979324025] in Haiti on t... [t:80718859]...</cite> <quote>( -_-) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RadDude9000 03/12/24 3:56:14 AM #43:	_____Cait posted... So is the government the villain, or the gangs, or is it two crappy groups ruining it for the innocent civilians? I know the US pretty much ruined the place years ago, but what else is going on here? In the end, everything is the US fault, isn't it. --- I am the power glove. I'm so bad. <cite>RadDude9000 posted [p:979324069] in Haiti on t... [t:80718859]...</cite> <quote>_____Cait posted... </cite><quote>So is the government the villain, or the gangs, or is it two crappy groups ruining it for the innocent civilians?I know the US pretty much ruined the place years ago, but what else is going on here?</quote>In the end, everything is the US fault, isn't it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 03/12/24 4:02:41 AM #44:	_____Cait posted... So is the government the villain, or the gangs, or is it two crappy groups ruining it for the innocent civilians? I know the US pretty much ruined the place years ago, but what else is going on here? When it comes to this kind of situation its almost always both sides being assholes one way or another and the only sympathetic party is those caught in the crossfire. Just like Hamas vs the IDF. But thats just a guess. It could be different in this case. I havent looked into it. --- "How is that a religious topic? That's just me talking about GOD." -Frostmourne <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:979324099] in Haiti on t... [t:80718859]...</cite> <quote>_____Cait posted... </cite><quote>So is the government the villain, or the gangs, or is it two crappy groups ruining it for the innocent civilians?I know the US pretty much ruined the place years ago, but what else is going on here?</quote>When it comes to this kind of situation its almost always both sides being assholes one way or another and the only sympathetic party is those caught in the crossfire. Just like Hamas vs the IDF.But thats just a guess. It could be different in this case. I havent looked into it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 03/12/24 4:03:32 AM #45:	RadDude9000 posted... In the end, everything is the US fault, isn't it. Not everything. The USs history of fucking things up pales compared to the UKs. --- "How is that a religious topic? That's just me talking about GOD." -Frostmourne <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:979324108] in Haiti on t... [t:80718859]...</cite> <quote>RadDude9000 posted... </cite><quote>In the end, everything is the US fault, isn't it.</quote>Not everything. The USs history of fucking things up pales compared to the UKs. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth_C_Ryu 03/12/24 4:04:21 AM #46:	Verge? The only thing its "on the verge of" is not having ANY internationally recognized "official" government until some tribal gangs fight it out and decide who gets to tell each other to do stuff. It has been in a state of collapse for quite some time now. Edit: seriously, feral humans are a thing there. --- I am the Hunter of Topics. My post never fails to kill its prey. pounces Nyaa! <cite>Sephiroth_C_Ryu posted [p:979324112] in Haiti on t... [t:80718859]...</cite> <quote>Verge? The only thing its "on the verge of" is not having ANY internationally recognized "official" government until some tribal gangs fight it out and decide who gets to tell each other to do stuff. It has been in a state of collapse for quite some time now. Edit: seriously, feral humans are a thing there. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 03/12/24 4:05:29 AM #47:	If I remember right, the first nation to fuck over Haiti was France <cite>Zikten posted [p:979324115] in Haiti on t... [t:80718859]...</cite> <quote>If I remember right, the first nation to fuck over Haiti was France</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 03/12/24 4:12:16 AM #48:	Zikten posted... If I remember right, the first nation to fuck over Haiti was France Ah, cant forget France. And Spain. And Portugal. As far as general fuckery goes, not Haiti specifically. But as far as fucking people over globally goes, the UK has gotta be up there. It was extorting other countries and stealing their resources (up to and including their literal human resources) before the US even existed. --- "How is that a religious topic? That's just me talking about GOD." -Frostmourne <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:979324148] in Haiti on t... [t:80718859]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite><quote>If I remember right, the first nation to fuck over Haiti was France</quote>Ah, cant forget France. And Spain. And Portugal. As far as general fuckery goes, not Haiti specifically.But as far as fucking people over globally goes, the UK has gotta be up there. It was extorting other countries and stealing their resources (up to and including their literal human resources) before the US even existed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bat178 03/12/24 6:17:53 AM #49:	So Haiti has become the Somalia of the West? --- "2001 called, it wants it's message board signature back....." - aarrgus <cite>Bat178 posted [p:979324738] in Haiti on t... [t:80718859]...</cite> <quote>So Haiti has become the Somalia of the West? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CobraGT 03/12/24 9:05:53 PM #50:	So I am reading this article on VOX news https://www.vox.com/world-politics/2024/3/12/24098422/haiti-prime-minister-ariel-henry-resigns-gang-violence-g9 but I have never figured out who VOX is. There is a right wing Spanish party called VOX. --- GoldenSun/Crossbone Isle diagrams/ 18 teams known https://photobucket.com/u/SwordOfWheat/a/9990a2ee-25f3-4242-ae79-7d2d4b882be4 <cite>CobraGT posted [p:979337311] in Haiti on t... [t:80718859]...</cite> <quote>So I am reading this article on VOX newshttps://www.vox.com/world-politics/2024/3/12/24098422/haiti-prime-minister-ariel-henry-resigns-gang-violence-g9but I have never figured out who VOX is. There is a right wing Spanish party called VOX. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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