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SocialistGamer
02/28/24 11:05:15 AM
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it would allow Trump to win.

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Were_Wyrm
02/28/24 11:06:24 AM
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Imagine if enough people voted uncommitted in the general election that it would allow Biden to win.

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GrandConjuraton
03/01/24 12:17:35 AM
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I wish.

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willythemailboy
03/01/24 12:55:09 AM
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Theoretically possible, so long as he comes in third in the electoral vote. Wildly improbable but technically possible.

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solosnake
03/01/24 1:02:52 AM
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Imagine if enough people voted neither of these candidates so they both had to shut the fuck up

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ButteryMales
03/01/24 1:10:05 AM
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Imagine if enough people voted neither of these candidates so they both had to shut the fuck up
I'm wondering who would win between Greens and Libertarians.
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Trumble
03/01/24 1:19:32 AM
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No, the system does not mean that. Americans' refusal to acknowledge they have other options because almost all of them have a cult-like dedication to either one major party or the other, is why third party candidates don't win. Not because the system doesn't allow them to.

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Sephiroth_C_Ryu
03/01/24 1:21:34 AM
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Many DO imagine that.

It is called Project 2025.

It is also called making any kind of commentary at this point about both-sides-wah-wah-wah and so forth.

Look, I get that the real enemy are the corporations. But we cannot vote against those at this time. So we are stuck with a lesser evil. VOTE FOR IT.


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ButteryMales
03/01/24 1:25:06 AM
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Trumble posted...
No, the system does not mean that. Americans' refusal to acknowledge they have other options because almost all of them have a cult-like dedication to either one major party or the other, is why third party candidates don't win. Not because the system doesn't allow them to.
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FL81
03/01/24 1:41:48 AM
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Imagine if enough people voted uncommitted in the general election that it would allow no one to win.

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WilliamPorygon
03/01/24 1:43:46 AM
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Imagine if enough people voted uncommitted in the general election that YO MAMA would win.

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Sephiroth_C_Ryu
03/01/24 2:59:28 AM
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ButteryMales posted...
https://youtu.be/s7tWHJfhiyo?si=z7gc9IQMqOhOmzYo

Nah, the graphic is wrong.

The Leopard party is "We promise not to eat YOUR face. Just other people's faces. You know, the ones you don't like, and voted for us because you don't like. We will eat theirs and only theirs, promise!" (spoilers, they eat your face)

In this respect, the Gorilla party would be "I get banana. You get slice of banana. Like before. But you only get slice still. Maybe a bit bigger slice next time. I will ask banana man, see what he says." (spoilers, your face is not eaten, and you may even get a small slice of banana with some paperwork and maybe jumping a hoop or two)


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ProfOaksAide
03/01/24 3:02:59 AM
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GrandConjuraton posted...
I wish.

Bernie would let Putin get all the way to Canada before he got Article 25d lol

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electricbugs2
03/01/24 3:06:22 AM
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Sadly seems to be that way for the foreseeable future in both Canada and the US.

I guess you could argue Canada is slightly better off because the other parties win some seats, but it's always going to be a Liberal or CPC candidate as the leader.

But then the alternative to the alternative is something like Mexico or the European countries have where there's an election every time somebody sneezes and the parties change so often that some crazy might get elected by accident (Looking at you Italy).

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Dark_Arbron
03/01/24 3:14:55 AM
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ProfOaksAide posted...
Bernie would let Putin get all the way to Canada before he got Article 25d lol

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Heineken14
03/01/24 3:17:06 AM
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willythemailboy posted...
Theoretically possible, so long as he comes in third in the electoral vote. Wildly improbable but technically possible.

He would still need to get 270 or it'd go to Congress, no?

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Maverick_Reznor
03/01/24 3:20:39 AM
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Could you imagine if Bernie was the democratic nominee in 2016? He would have won.

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03/01/24 3:55:55 AM
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Maverick_Reznor posted...
Could you imagine if Bernie was the democratic nominee in 2016? He would have won.

yes but you have to understand, it was her turn

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willythemailboy
03/01/24 4:40:45 AM
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He would still need to get 270 or it'd go to Congress, no?
There's no way he's getting 270, so yes it would go to the house. That's why he'd have to get at least third in the EC, because the house is only allowed to choose between the three candidates with the most EC votes.

Edit: also, the house vote is even more stacked against Democrats than the EC is, since each state gets one vote regardless of population. I don't know off hand whether DC gets a vote since they're not a state but do get EC votes. Using the 2020 election results it would be a 25-25 split, with DC going blue if it does get a vote.

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Heineken14
03/01/24 4:42:58 AM
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willythemailboy posted...
There's no way he's getting 270, so yes it would go to the house. That's why he'd have to get at least third in the EC, because the house is only allowed to choose between the three candidates with the most EC votes.

Ah fair enough, yeah that makes sense what you're saying now.

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ProfOaksAide
03/01/24 5:15:27 AM
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Maverick_Reznor posted...
Could you imagine if Bernie was the democratic nominee in 2016? He would have won.

He couldnt win the nomination but hed win the National election?

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sfcalimari
03/01/24 5:36:37 AM
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I hope that the "herp derp genocide" people will still be shouting "abandon Biden" as Trump's brownshirts throw them in the back of an unmarked van.

I also hope that they realize that they're being manipulated again by Russian/Chinese trolls.

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Chicken
03/01/24 5:40:23 AM
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sfcalimari posted...
"herp derp genocide"
holy shit
shut the fuck up

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VeesMcGees
03/01/24 5:57:04 AM
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Nah, Sanders was Putin's second choice for a reason. Sanders didn't seem like he wanted to focus on issues abroad as much. Ukraine would've had much less support, and therefor been easier for Russia to conquer. I don't think anyone was pushing to support Ukraine as much specifically.
Now Israel would be a different story, and since that was more for violence control in a country with closer ties to the USA, Sanders probably would've been more demanding than Biden for a ceasefire. That doesn't mean that Sanders would accomplish anything, especially with the rest of the government's desires focusing on keeping Israel and ally and how stubborn and stalwart Netanyahu's goal seems to be genocide.
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divot1338
03/01/24 6:12:29 AM
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SocialistGamer posted...
it would allow Trump to win.
So do you not understand whats going on?

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sfcalimari
03/01/24 3:32:36 PM
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Chicken posted...
holy shit
shut the fuck up

You say you hate genocide yet you want Trump to win. I'm sure the leopards won't eat your face.

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ButteryMales
03/01/24 5:15:47 PM
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sfcalimari posted...
I hope that the "herp derp genocide" people will still be shouting "abandon Biden" as Trump's brownshirts throw them in the back of an unmarked van.

I also hope that they realize that they're being manipulated again by Russian/Chinese trolls.
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Chicken
03/01/24 5:27:18 PM
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sfcalimari posted...
You say you hate genocide yet you want Trump to win. I'm sure the leopards won't eat your face.
You have to understand its impossible to have an actual intelligent debate with you when your only response to any criticisms of Biden is HURRRRR BUT TRUMP HURRRRR.

Both candidates should be locked up for the rest of their lives and America needs to elect people that aren't genocidal maniacs if it wants to get out of its "literal empire from Star Wars" era. But Biden cultists will never admit that.

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ProfOaksAide
03/01/24 8:54:58 PM
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sfcalimari posted...
You say you hate genocide yet you want Trump to win. I'm sure the leopards won't eat your face.

While conveniently ignoring the actual genocide in Ukraine, or the fact that Russia is an active ally of Hamas and Iran

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ButteryMales
03/01/24 9:04:11 PM
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ProfOaksAide posted...
While conveniently ignoring the actual genocide in Ukraine, or the fact that Russia is an active ally of Hamas and Iran
Are you denying the genocide in Palestine?

I support funding for Ukraine to defend itself.
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Torgo
03/01/24 9:09:21 PM
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ProfOaksAide posted...
While conveniently ignoring the actual genocide in Ukraine, or the fact that Russia is an active ally of Hamas and Iran

What's happening in Ukraine is an imperialist land grab and there have been probably too many war crimes to count, but it's not a genocide. Putin doesn't wan to slaughter or depopulate the region, he wants them under his thumb contributing to his corrupt gangster state oligarchy.

What did you mean by actual by the way? Just a slightly odd turn of phrase or are you trying to claim the conflict in Gaza is not a genocide?

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ProfOaksAide
03/01/24 9:11:50 PM
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But you apparently dont support the politicians that would facilitate it. Not only would Trump make Palestine worse, he would hand Ukraine to Putin on a gaudy gold platter, would dismantle NATO, and sell our state secrets to China and Iran

Torgo posted...
What's happening in Ukraine is an imperialist land grab and there have been probably too many war crimes to count, but it's not a genocide. Putin doesn't wan to slaughter or depopulate the region, he wants them under his thumb contributing to his corrupt gangster state oligarchy.

What did you mean by actual by the way? Just a slightly odd turn of phrase or are you trying to claim the conflict in Gaza is not a genocide?

Putin doesnt believe Ukraine is a legitimate country or culture. He believes it is territory that velong to Russia and that they are ethnic Russians. Entire villages have been systemically exterminated or relocated (kidnapped) to Russia for forced labor and reeducation. Its literal genocide taken directly from Hitlers playbook

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ButteryMales
03/01/24 9:35:02 PM
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ProfOaksAide posted...
But you apparently dont support the politicians that would facilitate it. Not only would Trump make Palestine worse, he would hand Ukraine to Putin on a gaudy gold platter, would dismantle NATO, and sell our state secrets to China and Iran
You don't get to do a genocide because you stopped a genocide. Biden can stop selling weapons to Israel and focus on getting funding for Ukraine so I can vote for him again.
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ProfOaksAide
03/01/24 10:18:21 PM
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Got it, continue letting Russia, Iran, and China get away with genocide says the guy who cares about genocide

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Jagr_68
03/01/24 10:19:45 PM
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Don't blame me, I voted for DEEZ NUTS.

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03/01/24 10:39:02 PM
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ProfOaksAide posted...


Putin doesnt believe Ukraine is a legitimate country or culture. He believes it is territory that velong to Russia and that they are ethnic Russians. Entire villages have been systemically exterminated or relocated (kidnapped) to Russia for forced labor and reeducation. Its literal genocide taken directly from Hitlers playbook

the closer thing to attempted genocide would be the decade+ of pogroms and shelling from Ukrainian ultranationalists towards the roma and ethnic russians in eastern ukraine that the government couldn't reign in because they incorporated literal neonazi militias into their state military. And then a sprinkling of cultural genocide on the side with government policies towards the russian language in a country split between ex-galacians and russians.

Putin's just doing an everyday evil imperialism landgrab with a dash of warcrimes; not trying to wipe out a population by herding them into concentration camps and shutting off water/aid/etc.

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sfcalimari
03/02/24 3:57:09 AM
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Chicken posted...
Both candidates should be locked up for the rest of their lives and America needs to elect people that aren't genocidal maniacs if it wants to get out of its "literal empire from Star Wars" era. But Biden cultists will never admit that.

Oh ok you're one of those delusional bothsiderists who'd still be complaining about Zionism if Noam Chomsky was president, but would go into radio silence when Trump is elected.

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Dark_Arbron
03/02/24 4:05:16 AM
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Biden cultists are as much a thing as blue caps and the alt-left.

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Arcanine2009
03/02/24 4:21:37 AM
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imagine if we weren't locked to trump/brain dead racist Republicans and the lesser of two evils party

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Dark_Arbron
03/02/24 4:25:09 AM
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Arcanine2009 posted...
imagine if we weren't locked to trump/brain dead racist Republicans and the lesser of two evils party

It would be nice, but thats reality.

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Fenriswolf
03/02/24 4:26:41 AM
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ProfOaksAide posted...
While conveniently ignoring the actual genocide in Ukraine, or the fact that Russia is an active ally of Hamas and Iran

Says the one who conveniently ignore the fact that Israel has killed more civilians in months than Russia has in years. But it's totally not a genocide because the IDF said so!!!

While you're at it, Bibi actually considers Vladdy a personal friend

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2019-04-05/vladimir-putin-gives-his-friend-bibi-netanyahu-a-campaign-gift#xj4y7vzkg

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Trumble
03/02/24 6:13:22 AM
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Dark_Arbron posted...
Biden cultists are as much a thing as blue caps and the alt-left.
They are very much a thing. Perhaps it's more accurate to say the Democrat party rather than Biden personally is their cult, but the end result is the same; blind support for people who do not remotely belong in power and an irrational outrage at the mere existence anyone whose support lies elsewhere (or - and this is far more damning considering that outrage at Trump support is fair enough - those whose support lies nowhere at all).

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Chicken
03/02/24 4:17:02 PM
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sfcalimari posted...
Oh ok you're one of those delusional bothsiderists who'd still be complaining about Zionism if Noam Chomsky was president, but would go into radio silence when Trump is elected.
Holy shit you're really proving my point.

Every single time the cultists default to HURRRR BUT TRUMP HURRRR.

Its not "bothsides" its "neither side". How about you stop voting for war criminals?

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