Current Events > Democracy might come to an end because some dudes can't get p****

(+) Yeah! (+)

Giblet_Enjoyer posted...

You had to make this false equivalency to even dispute what I said. Everyone knows women can get laid, that's not what they're after. They're usually after relationships.

No, the female equivalent is "Where have all the good men gone?". Women complain all the time about how there aren't good enough men. Far more often than men complain about it being too hard to get laid. You know this to be true, because: most men's pride prevents them from whining about that because it would make them look like losers, so I know damn well that's nothing more than a strawman. I've never heard it IRL, or anywhere but 4chan really. Women shit on ordinary men for being sub-par everywhere and constantly.

Those women are usually still single as well though.

pezzicle posted...

How to get a partner?

go to fucking therapy

So what you're saying is..."Hot single therapists in your area."
Finally. This was exactly the push I needed.

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Lmao, your ego is amazing. Calling you "that user" isn't misgendering you, it's a genderless term, holy shit dude. I don't pay that much attention to names here, I didn't even notice it was you. If my posts are tilting you this hard you really need to utilize the ignore feature.

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Tbh I hate change but I do try. I am just not very good at it.

Giblet_Enjoyer posted...

Lmao, your ego is amazing. Calling you "that user" isn't misgendering you, it's a genderless term, holy shit dude. I don't pay that much attention to names here, I didn't even notice it was you. If my posts are tilting you this hard you really need to utilize the ignore feature.

Scorpions sting people tho

Women shit on ordinary men for being sub-par everywhere and constantly.

Oh, looky: "Men are the real victims" mentality.

Giblet_Enjoyer posted...

You had to make this false equivalency to even dispute what I said. Everyone knows women can get laid, that's not what they're after. They're usually after relationships.

No, the female equivalent is "Where have all the good men gone?". Women complain all the time about how there aren't good enough men. Far more often than men complain about it being too hard to get laid. You know this to be true, because: most men's pride prevents them from whining about that because it would make them look like losers, so I know damn well that's nothing more than a strawman. I've never heard it IRL, or anywhere but 4chan really. Women shit on ordinary men for being sub-par everywhere and constantly.

it sounds like you think womens standards are too high and they need to lower them

why should women lower their standards?

pezzicle posted...

it sounds like you think womens standards are too high and they need to lower them

why should women lower their standards?

My pp small, I can't compete with Chad's foot long

This entire topic is giving off strong "are the straights okay?" vibes

HylianFox posted...

This entire topic is giving off strong "are the straights okay?" vibes

Couldn't have said it better myself...

Umbreon posted...

"Stop and Frisk" isn't specifically about Black people but by sheer coincidence it's used to go after them at a disproportionate rate.

And in consideration of that Stop and Frisk should be outlawed. But the issue is technically the implementation, not the policy itself.

shockthemonkey posted...

Your defense is really but I have semantics on my side? Sad.

I was just explaining what I meant.

Asherlee10 posted...

For whom?

A growing fraction of the population.

pezzicle posted...

the f that mean

What I said. I think how men were raised to behave in past eras was more conducive to them developing personalities that are intimately desirable for women.

pezzicle posted...

it is very likely that part of this is because heterosexual females have raised their standards for what they want from a partner and are behaving as such. (some) men can't recognize that this is a them issue,

If someone changes that is a personal issue, not other peoples' issue.

pezzicle posted...

in the sense that they should be making efforts to get up to the new standard.

To say men "should" do that is imposing some sense of obligation on them.

But from many men's view the women of today are not superior to the women of the past, so the rise in standards doesn't make sense.

Simply put, any argument that women shouldn't improve or lower their standards applies equally to men. If one group lacks the obligation, everyone does. Since we're (supposed to be) equal now, naturally.

GranAures posted...

And if you stay in the ditch and complain about the people who didn't:
That's a you problem not the problem of anybody not in the ditch with you

A person pulled out of the ditch then demanding I pull myself out with no helping hand is fairly rude and obnoxious. I may not be entitled to a lift but it's not justified for anyone who got one to act like they're somehow better than me for it either.

HylianFox posted...

This entire topic is giving off strong "are the straights okay?" vibes

As a former straight:
No.
They are not.

Gladius_ posted...

For the reasons we stated before. Funny you then bring up the 80's and 90's when your original statement was "Our ancestors" most of us were around in the 80's and 90's so you certainly didn't mean that.

I was not alive in the 80s, and that was the first period of time I specified.

Gladius_ posted...

Given much of our rights were introduced in the 90's.. you know what changed? Women began to explore those new found rights.

And dating was still much more accessible in the 2000s, according to statistics. Alas I was not an adult at that time.

Gladius_ posted...

The bold is propaganda. In fact, there's a huge push by right wing red pill influencers that are instilling and pushing old fashioned advice that is no longer attractive and actively telling men not to listen to women and what we value as attraction. Lmao

Bad advice can come from multiple sources. One's failure doesn't make the other's success.

There is this focus on open right-wingers failing at dating. I don't particularly lament that since it could be argued that some people have toxic and/or dangerous personalities and shouldn't be dating anyway, for the sake of any of their potential partners' well-being. The problem I refer to is increasing amounts of genuine family material men also being locked out of the process.

Gladius_ posted...

You mean like the conservatives who were so upset by equality they decided to rally hard and come out of the wood works because obama became president?

That's bad, but I'm not sure how it's related to dating. I supported Obama.

BoomerKuwanger posted...

This is another thing that other men care about far more than women do. Unless you have like a legitimate micropenis then it's probably big enough and it's not like you can only use your dick anyway

Teach me your ways Sensei!

BloodMoon7 posted...

My pp small, I can't compete with Chad's foot long

learn to eat pussy

HylianFox posted...

This entire topic is giving off strong "are the straights okay?" vibes

As a straight guy I will openly say it sure would be nice to be of a gender/orientation combo that dating apps actually consistently work for, instead. >_>

Honestly though here's the thing: What's your environment like and where are you looking for a date?

Cause I only hear of the "Where have all the GOOD men gone?! Men ain't shit!" talk one place. Online and usually by women who unironically call themselves "divas" or "princesses".

Then I go outside and see a lot more level minded women. Plenty of women like that out there, stop following the Instagram girls who "can't stand drama" but can't stop being in the middle of it.

pezzicle posted...

learn to eat pussy

I'd have to be able to get near pussy first. I can lick any snack cup clean regardless of depth tho

Umbreon posted...

Those women are usually still single as well though.

Sure, of course. I'm not suggesting they actually have it good, quite the opposite. I'm only saying that acting like it's somehow reasonable to tell men they need to go into student debt and give like 4+ years of their life to education just to get laid is hilarious

HylianFox posted...

This entire topic is giving off strong "are the straights okay?" vibes

Personally speaking?

Ehhhhhh

Unless you have like a legitimate micropenis then it's probably big enough

Warning
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/3dFHa31qxQ8

Umbreon posted...

Honestly though here's the thing: What's your environment like and where are you looking for a date?

Cause I only hear of the "Where have all the GOOD men gone?! Men ain't shit!" talk one place. Online and usually by women who unironically call themselves "divas" or "princesses".

Then I go outside and see a lot more level minded women. Plenty of women like that out there, stop following the Instagram girls who "can't stand drama" but can't stop being in the middle of it.

I live in a quiet neighborhood. Except when it isn't. I just heard this awful argument outside where the guy was threatening his girl but the girl was a real badass bitch and was like try it bitch and someone broke some glass and a cat was yowling and I just thought, damn why are the males like this?

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

We'll never know though, will we? I don't see myself getting any sex anytime soon.

Reminder that the people who want you to be insincere with the size of your penis are the same people who sell you stuff to 'Fix your problem'.

Most women who aren't on a porn site don't have a minimal requirement of 8.

GranAures posted...

Oh, looky: "Men are the real victims" mentality.

No one's a victim, I'm only talking about how the framing of "men think women owe them sex" is very silly. In that sense, women think men "owe" them things, too. It's ridiculous and just not accurate.

To be clear though I don't actually have a problem with men and women becoming more and more divided, birth rates declining is a great thing as far as I'm concerned. I just like to point out funny social idiosyncrasies

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

For having just been trying to bitch about a strawman, that's a pretty big one he just made.

GranAures posted...

Warning
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/3dFHa31qxQ8

"Where is that going? Not in here!"

XD

*farts*

SecretBase posted...

What I said. I think how men were raised to behave in past eras was more conducive to them developing personalities that are intimately desirable for women.

youre not actually saying anything. you are making a statement without providing any specific examples of how that statement is true

SecretBase posted...

To say men "should" do that is imposing some sense of obligation on them.

It is an obligation for them. If THEY want to be in a relationship, the obligation is on them to attract a partner. That would make it their obligation.

SecretBase posted...

Simply put, any argument that women shouldn't improve or lower their standards applies equally to men.

sure, and I am not out here telling men to lower their standards. You should 100% have standards when it comes to the person you would like to date. If you are finding that it is difficult to find a partner who meets those standards, that may mean that your standards are too high. If a female is having that issue, the same would apply

Phenomenal_one posted...

*farts*

*sniff*

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Of which the thread is about.

You (Talking to anyone) could argue the point of TC's concern just goes beyond dating if anything.

Just people who think their own shortcomings is somehow more unique and special, therefore everyone has to be miserable.

NoxObscuras posted...

Yes we do. Lots of conservative men complain about how it "used to be better" instead of adapting to the fact that women have autonomy now. They aren't just baby machines that have no choice but to stay married to a man, no matter how he treats her. That's what men need to adapt to, to treat women like human beings instead of a man's property.

There are men who don't do that who still can't get a foot in the door though.

If it was only bad men having the issue then it would be a non-issue, since obviously bad people should not date.

BoomerKuwanger posted...

Ironically a lot of the "social conditioning" that makes men unattractive is being done by other men claiming to know how to get you laid. Most women would rather date a guy who is funny/charming than jacked/rich. Women might like a guy who is direct/assertive, but not dudes who approach them like some kind of predator. And lastly, women do not care about a guy's body count, it's funny how men obsess over this metric that's just some kind of contest with other men.

That's what's scary about all these right wing and right wing adjacent movements though. They tell you they have the fix, when in reality they sabotage you even further, but that just makes people dig in further with blaming their chosen bogeyman. It's hard to get people out of a mindset where they're looking for someone aside from themselves to blame.

But the advice only exists for men who were already unsuccessful before they started hearing it, so clearly there are other issues.

And "blaming yourself" is not conducive to building confidence.

shockthemonkey posted...

Why do I have to adapt and grow as a person as time goes on and society changes? is honestly such a common mindset and its just so depressing that there are people like that. Its just so completely detached, but these people are usually so demanding at the same time. Theres no desire to balance a give and take, theres no desire to learn, theres no desire to do anything but stagnate.

It makes sense if you don't see others improving in any relevant way either. In terms of what many men like about women the women have not improved either. Men simply have much lower standards for who they'll intimately associate with in some capacity, so that gets overlooked.

Umbreon posted...

"Where is that going? Not in here!"

XD

You're welcome.

Giblet_Enjoyer posted...

No one's a victim, I'm only talking about how the framing of "men think women owe them sex" is very silly. In that sense, women think men "owe" them things, too. It's ridiculous and just not accurate.

weird cause i already addressed how those aren't the same thing

pezzicle posted...

that is in no way shape or form the same thing

men being owed sex is about men feeling entitled to receiving sex from women just for existing.

women being owed a particular lifestyle is a standard they have set for who it is that they would like to date and grow into a relationship with. Most women who have these standards do not think they should get this just because they exist. They want to participate and exist within this lifestyle by working, raising a family, taking care of a home. They are actively involved in creating that lifestyle.

Antiyonder posted...

You (Talking to anyone) could argue the point of TC's concern just goes beyond dating if anything.

Just people who think their own shortcomings is somehow more unique and special, therefore everyone has to be miserable.

I want everyone to be miserable so we can work together to make society happy again.

Baby dicks ruining America would be on brand.

SecretBase posted...

And "blaming yourself" is not conducive to building confidence.

fault and responsibility are two different things

it might not be (entirely) your fault that you are having a hard time finding a partner but it sure as shit is your responsibility to change that if you want to

expecting someone else to just come along and take pity on you and start dating you because "youre having a hard time finding someone" is not going to happen