Current Events > Twitter just ran off Cristina Vee, being falsely accused of being a Zionist

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Necronmon posted...

Antisemitism does seem to be getting to pre World War 2 levels with how everyone who is pro Jewish is being " on a list." And of course Musk is helping spreading it...damn him.

And yah you can say " anti Zionist is not Antisemitism" but its getting REALLY damn close to crossing that line to hating anyone Jewish.

Again, not all Zionists are Jews and not all Jews are Zionists. I've seen far-right cretins stating openly antisemitic crap, like Evangelists claiming that the Holocaust was "God's plan to send them to Israel", but barely get any pushback because they're also ardent supporters of Israel.

Ran her off? Doesn't look like that tweet made it to that many people

There really does need to be severe consequences for mobbing someone unjustly. As it stands, very few people will face any consequences.

The people shouting "Zionist! Zionist!" without any actual proof have learned absolutely nothing.

The asshole who made the list would have just went "Oopsie whoopsie" and forgotten about their mistake in a day or so until they experienced that what they were willing to inflict on others.

The people who sent Vee death threats will sleep soundly in their beds, instead of weeping in a jail cell.

All brave little boys and girls who love to act like animals and offer nothing but worthless words when they harm an innocent.

Musks supports all this hate and vitriol by the way. This isn't the first women driven off the platform and there are even worse groups that love using lists to target people.

Don't expect people in power to care until someone gets murdered over it. Then it's a juicy news story!

Fucking hell....

K181 posted...

Also, not going to lie, Im not really comfortable how casual the internet is with angrily calling people zionists left and right.

The line between antisemitism and anti-Zionism has been horribly blurred.

It's gotten so bad that people who claim to be anti-zionists will casually engage in antisemitism without even realizing it.

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Why is it always people with an anime girl in their profile pic that do this?

"It wasn't mean to cause harassment"

Aka "Oopsie whoopsie!"

That person won't reflect on their actions.

It's one thing to criticize someone like J.K. Rowling who is specifically out there donating money and being vocal about her anti-trans views. Even then all attempted boycotts over her are completely ineffective.

Literally going around creating a list of people they believe are Zionist is fucking bonkers. The lack of self-awareness over it even moreso. It literally makes no difference to anything or anyone outside of getting people harassed.

Pitbuller_26 posted...

The line between antisemitism and anti-Zionism has been horribly blurred.

It's gotten so bad that people who claim to be anti-zionists will casually engage in antisemitism without even realizing it.

Yet it's the far-right that's trying to conflate antisemitism with any criticism of Israel. Just look at Victor Orban who thrives on an antisemitic supporter base and promotes conspiracies about George Soros. Yet since he pays lip service to Israel he rarely get accused of being antisemitic compared to the average Palestine supporter.

Social media was a mistake.

Also insisting that making a public list of
'People who support genocide' (With zero evidence or fact checking) isn't intended for those people to be harassed....

Is kind of like all the times right wingers assholes keep throwing red meat towards their base, and when a lunatic goes out and kills someone they're like "I never said to do THAT!" *wink wink*

Umbreon posted...

Also insisting that making a public list of
'People who support genocide' (With zero evidence or fact checking) isn't intended for those people to be harassed....

Is kind of like all the times right wingers assholes keep throwing red meat towards their base, and when a lunatic goes out and kills someone they're like "I never said to do THAT!" *wink wink*

Indeed. The accuser knows what they're doing and refuses to help take down the list.

I found the original accusation post via web cache.
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Do not let this discourage the rest of you!

Don't let our battle stop!

Do NOT be AFRAID

Humble_Novice posted...

I found the original accusation post via web cache.
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Oh my fucking god. It just fucking hit me that WhereIsMeCake asshole is literally a Genshin Impact fan.

Really don't feel any sympathy for the terminally online folks who make it everyone else's problem.

Doubly so when shit stirrer tries to drum up sympathy by claiming suicidal ideation as a result of said fucking around.

Tyranthraxus posted...

Oh my fucking god. It just fucking hit me that WhereIsMeCake asshole is literally a Genshin Impact fan.

Not surprised in the slightest. I think they tried to hit the new Tighnari VA for similar reasons too.

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It's the "no bad tactics, only bad targets" argument.

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This some ol' bullshit.
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Humble_Novice posted...

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lol this guy. "Online activism" is the very definition of pointless performative bullshit.

People will see something like this and still say "there's no such thing as cancel culture"

Necronmon posted...

Antisemitism does seem to be getting to pre World War 2 levels with how everyone who is pro Jewish is being " on a list." And of course Musk is helping spreading it...damn him.

And yah you can say " anti Zionist is not Antisemitism" but its getting REALLY damn close to crossing that line to hating anyone Jewish.

Well, lets see.

1. Calling for world wide boycott of Jewish businesses - check.
2. Harassment of individuals who support Jewish causes - check.
3. An inability to see the danger posed to Jews by taking steps 1 and 2. Check.
4. Crazy people taking even more extreme actions than those proposed by steps 1 and 2.

Story checks out.

But, lets put this in its proper context. To give people a little wiggle room here, the Jews of 1933 were not in any way actually associated with any sort of situation that involved a large civilian body count. The outrage and concern for the Palestinians in Gaza is morally justified, where as antisemitism is completely irrational. So while the witch hunt and bastardization of the world Zionism by both the Israeli government and social media is blurring the lines towards complete antisemitism, lets not for a moment think that the outrage is remotely the same as the Nazi stab in the back or inferior race theories.

It will be interesting to see what happens once this conflict is over. I hope everyone joins me in praying to whoever you pray to if you do at all, that the current ceasefire negotiations actually result in something positive before Ramadan. And by positive, I mean a permanent end to the violence, and a start of some other form of the peace process - one that actually involves peace.

"it wasn't my intention" is such a shit excuse for when someone fucks up

Accountability is such a rare trait now

Just admit you're an asshole, it'd be refreshing to hear that

Humble_Novice posted...

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It's really not funny, but that does seem to be their "lesson" and the thing they're "sorry" for.
Not that they harassed and bullied and sent death threats to someone, but that they committed "friendly fire".
Absolute fucking scum.

Far left is just as bad as the far right and Ill always stand by it. Theyre both equally racist, hateful, deranged, etc.

How do you get ran off Twitter? Just block the haters or respond with lol. Is it just because the volume of messages is so much its unpleasant to try and use the site?

In what way does making a list in any way help Palestine? I'm sure those orphans stuck in a camp can sleep easy tonight because some terminally online leftist put a bunch of voice actors on a Twitter list and thinks that's progressive activism.

I need another reminder to never make a Twitter account, thanks

I bet this accuser considers herself """"progressive""" and "on the right side of history too"

We got a long and arduous road ahead lol

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Looks like the accuser has another account.
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I usually hate the anime pfp stereotype but these folks are NOT beating the allegations

Everyone involved in this mess looks like an idiot tbh. Starting with the one with the "list", on to the one outraged not because they have a list mind you but because they mistakenly put someone on the list, to the one defending them.

Aristoph posted...

"I wish that I could have known sooner"

Yeah "sooner"... like at some point before I decided to ruin someone's life because they don't agree with me would have been good.

C_Pain posted...

How do you get ran off Twitter? Just block the haters or respond with lol. Is it just because the volume of messages is so much its unpleasant to try and use the site?

You are underestimating the level at which harassment like this takes when a twitter mob is after somebody. It gets really personal and it comes at people from all sides in a deluge.

Humble_Novice posted...

Looks like the accuser has another account.

Ofc. Just reset, start anew, and keep your posts protected.

They still see no problem with creating a list aimed to harass people.

They still think that they just did some mistake, but are still 99% in the right, so they can go on like usuall.

Karovorak posted...

Ofc. Just reset, start anew, and keep your posts protected.

They still see no problem with creating a list aimed to harass people.

They still think that they just did some mistake, but are still 99% in the right, so they can go on like usuall.

Of course, because she thinks she is the victim here.

"the list"

Terminally online people need to get a fucking grip

Karovorak posted...

Ofc. Just reset, start anew, and keep your posts protected.

They still see no problem with creating a list aimed to harass people.

They still think that they just did some mistake, but are still 99% in the right, so they can go on like usuall.

Exactly the online "left" believe that no matter what pain they bring, as long as it achieves their goal then it is worth it. Sounds familiar.

godofwar596 posted...

Far left is just as bad as the far right and Ill always stand by it. Theyre both equally racist, hateful, deranged, etc.

Depends how far you go, but there is one key difference: The far left has no political power while the far right is currently a part of the establishment. The far left can't even get their own shit straight while the far right has been well coordinated in their push to take power. The conflict in Palestine is being perpetuated by 2 ultra conservative factions. The attack on Ukraine was from an ultra conservative country.

alfred_ashford posted...

Exactly the online "left" believe that no matter what pain they bring, as long as it achieves their goal then it is worth it. Sounds familiar.

That's as gross an oversimplification as claiming that not explicitly condemning Israel with every breath is supporting a genocide.

Anyone knows who else was on that shitty list? I heard on Twitter from several people it was slightly over a thousand until this drama happened.

Social media turns people into assholes.

The main difference between leftwing crazies and rightwing crazies is that left wing crazies have no power outside of bullying on the internet. Where rightwing crazies have power in the real world.

creativerealms posted...

The main difference between leftwing crazies and rightwing crazies is that left wing crazies have no power outside of bullying on the internet. Where rightwing crazies have power in the real world.

There were a few fringe cases of left wing crazies finding peoples personal info to try and get them fired but that is the result of the victim not hiding their info and right wing crazies can get people fired easier.

GhostFaceLeaks posted...

Anyone knows who else was on that shitty list? I heard on Twitter from several people it was slightly over a thousand until this drama happened.

Social media turns people into assholes.

Presumably it was anyone on Twitter who hasn't come out with a statement against Israel because apparently that's all it takes these days. People love a witch hunt

Trelve posted...

Presumably it was anyone on Twitter who hasn't come out with a statement against Israel because apparently that's all it takes these days. People love a witch hunt

To those people, it seems either you spend the rest of your days being vocal about it or you're a zionist. No middle ground and god forbid anyone who silently supports Palestine through charities.

Pitbuller_26 posted...

Yeah, the being suicidal ain't no excuse. It's a deflection to avoid accountability for her massive fuck up.

Way too many public figures attempt suicide when they are called out for their bullshit.

They want to deflect from their behavior and garner sympathy.

Crimsoness posted...

Though I agree no one should be harassing this Cel person either

I agree with this. However, anyone should feel free to leave cel ONE very singly worded tweet about their attempt to ruin a persons life. Thats fine.

For all those online mob kinds of folks who like to pull stunts like this (to the point of harassing people IRL on top of it).

"Do you feel like a hero yet?"

Instead of making sure you have your info right before brigading a person... maybe just don't brigade on people at all?