Board 8 > Simpsons mafia Redemption Topic 4 Old Man Yells at the Clouds

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Kirby321 posted...

With the scumpool thinning out, I'm in favor of lynching Isquen or MZero now. I don't think they were good D1 lynches, but with more info on the table about every player thus far, Isquen and MZero are still enigmas.

you never answered why you didn't like my FD vote :(

Kirby321 posted...

The less time Sbell and Ulti aren't having a pissing contest,

I mean let's not pretend that I've never successfully found scum Ulti.

FullNetal Malchemist?

3. FD
5. Isquen
7. Kirby
14. Ben
16. Chang

took red d1 poe, pull corrik, lea, ulti, wallz, (obv ctes).

just off of I'm not that good. I would guess I'm wrong on at least 1 spot i took out of the PoE.

But I'd expect at least 2 scum in those 5.

Ulti can I ask why you suggested we fake claim masons when my kidnapper role self resolved as not working how it normally does simply by you being here to start d2?

And your immediate response was questioning if I was 3p and you didnt suggest I could be scum until near the end of n1. Looking for some peace of mind if you dont mind sharing your thoughts.

red, why Kirby and Chang given their successful lynch of ctes?

Votals While Eating Lard Lad Donuts

(2) Mzero- Kirby, Enchantress
(1) Red- (Enchantress),(Kirby), wallz
(1) FD - Mzero
(1) Death (ulti), Ben, (Fd)
(1) Wallz- FD
(0) Isquen- (Enchantress)

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Death (ulti), Ben, (Fd)

Still incorrect

ulti I would also like you to give thoughts on Isquen. You said something like friends are a weakness for you and you cant read them but we both know thats an excuse. You have other friends among this group and you read (or pretend to read lol) them. Also, normally you only boycott a day 1 lynch of Isquen. Feels like reasons to not chime in on Isquen here.

The more I think about it I dont think town vanilla ulti seems so trusting of me being town. Especially when you said you still dont put much stock in a flavor split. That is not really the result I expected when I neighbored you.

Ulti I think you could still be town for sure, Im not voting you atm. But you did just play really well as scum in blade mafia and a lot of people town cleared you. Only reason you lost is death satisfied his 3p wincon just before scum won.

Chaeix posted...

red, why Kirby and Chang given their successful lynch of ctes?

I don't put a lot of stock in the early ctes lynch tbh. It looked like a hopeless special with a day set on corrik/ulti. Could easily have just been early distancing that backfired.

But I posted a reason to pull everyone else out of PoE and those were the leftovers.

If I had to pick I probably start ben/fd. FD hasn't been engaged at all this game. Hes pretty much spent the entire game talking about flavor(And I think at one point even a dumb conspiracy about the ordering of the player list?). Just not engaged in a way that helps town in the slightest.

Ben has little meaningful interactions. Nothing that sticks out as particularly scummy, just mostly been outside looking in.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Still incorrect

Clearly there's a vote stealer ability going around!

wallmasterz posted...

Ulti I think you could still be town for sure, Im not voting you atm. But you did just play really well as scum in blade mafia and a lot of people town cleared you. Only reason you lost is death satisfied his 3p wincon just before scum won.

He did. He just got too greedy about wanting to kill me on the last day, which tanked his hold over the remaining town.

Oh god Ulti dont use math.
Math has failed me and Sbell many times.

Oh dont get me wrong. Its not the conclusion I doubt. I dont see Wallz as scum either.
I am just against using math in principle.
Your other reasons are better.

UltimaterializerX posted...

The post I replied to with was the worst one made today by a mile. Im like actively trying to avoid suspecting the guy every game but that was so bad. If I had a gun I would shoot him and thats where my vote is likeliest to end up before I bounce. Was trying to avoid revealing this to reactions from others first but hey.

Just say 'Isquen'.

Instead I started from the beginning of day 2 looking for this post for no reason. Post 63 of this topic for anyone curious.

Clearly wallz is Bart Simpson, Simpson Recruiter. It was Wallz and Ctes to start and they recruited Ulti night 1.

game solved.

bbbbyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

^that's a joke.

and yeah, Maths is bad

Obellisk posted...

Clearly wallz is Bart Simpson, Simpson Recruiter. It was Wallz and Ctes to start and they recruited Ulti night 1.

game solved.

bbbbyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

I was really hoping whoever rolled Bart would do Im Bart Simpson. Who the hell are you? for their opening post.

needless to say I now understand why they didnt

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Still incorrect

I checked it like 3 times what's it supposed to be?

red13n posted...

If I had to pick I probably start ben/fd. FD hasn't been engaged at all this game. Hes pretty much spent the entire game talking about flavor(And I think at one point even a dumb conspiracy about the ordering of the player list?). Just not engaged in a way that helps town in the slightest.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/22907aa4.jpg

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

I checked it like 3 times what's it supposed to be?

I never voted death, I voted and then subsequently unvoted Ulti

red13n posted...

Hes pretty much spent the entire game talking about flavor

Wallz said "I am not a simpson" unprompted before we knew the flavor split.

Wallz multiple times stated what appeared to be reason why town power shouldn't target ulti. And then targeted Ulti with his town power.

Yeah the genesis of that was me looking at potential role discrepancies, but that isn't nothing.

FD I dont know why you are saying its unprompted when 'I am not a simpson' should be a logical answer to the question 'are you a member of the simpson family?'.

htaeD posted...

FD I dont know why you are saying its unprompted when 'I am not a simpson' should be a logical answer to the question 'are you a member of the simpson family?'.

was that the exact question?

htaeD posted...

FD I dont know why you are saying its unprompted when 'I am not a simpson' should be a logical answer to the question 'are you a member of the simpson family?'.

Are you gaslighting me? That's NOT the order things happened.

ctesjbuvf posted...

Wallz, let me ask you a question too. Do you believe yourself to be miller-ish in this game?

wallmasterz posted...

I have never seen a Simpsons ep with my character in it, so I dont know just how miller-ish or not is my flavor. Im not a Simpson.

My role is harmless but has a name that suggests otherwise. I do think my flavor and role both work as foils to a potential flavor or role cop.

Obellisk posted...

not a simpson or not a simpson character?

he clarified he was not a Simpson family member BEFORE the clarifying question was asked.

Wallz KNEW the flavor split when he answered that miller question.

And he knew because he's scum.

Citations:
T1 P257
T1 P269
T1 P271

Yeah that's pretty damn good. Again, From FD.

it was clear ge pushed away from being a simpson on his own and unprompted.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Are you gaslighting me? That's NOT the order things happened.

he clarified he was not a Simpson family member BEFORE the clarifying question was asked.

You confused me first actually.

The discussion was "did you mean you weren't in the TV show simpsons or did you mean you weren't a member of the Simpsons family" to which he clarified that his character IS from the show, but is not a Simpson.

When you posted this, I thought you were saying his "I am not a simpson" comment was stated in the same post as the clarification answer you mention here.

Its my fault for not looking back at the older topic myself. But in my defense, cant afford to spend long periods on the forum in between work.

htaeD posted...

When you posted this, I thought you were saying his "I am not a simpson" comment was stated in the same post as the clarification answer you mention here.

I think that was supposed to say "the discussion after was..." but the after is missing <_<

Aha
Yeah that didnt help.
Okay now I do think you have a point.

Wallz getting a neighboring type role AGAIN and being Scum with it AGAIN. The Maths don't necessarily line up but the lords of coincidence sometimes take matters into their own hands.

With that said, it would make more sense that Ulti is scum with him or rather that feels like the only other option if Wallz is to be scum and assuming he is not yet again a neighborer.

So while some might want to say I'm hung up on ulti, it's more I feel that he has to be linked to wallz.

then again, wallz could just be town and he said something that carried more weight than any of us could have realized.

MZero posted...

you never answered why you didn't like my FD vote :(

I mean, all you did to justify your vote was "this post seems inauthentic". With all due respect to you, it's a terrible vote that fails to put into context everything else FD has been doing this game.

If anything, your vote seemed inauthentic.

Obellisk posted...

then again, wallz could just be town and he said something that carried more weight than any of us could have realized.

The irony is that he wouldnt even need to clarify that he is not a Simpson, since all Simpson characters are introduced by the first season already and he would have seen them.

Obellisk posted...

then again, wallz could just be town and he said something that carried more weight than any of us could have realized.

I wouldn't be surprised if this was it. I think y'all are reading too much into it.

Certainly something to keep in our back pocket when the lynch pool gets smaller, but right now it very much feels like hyperfocusing on one particular detail when Wallz has a lot of content in his case folder.

Unlike MZero. Even Corrik has the lynch lead and Ctes' desperation vote going for him. Isquen doesn't have much going for him, either, but he's at least been posting and giving us much to reference.

I think MZero should claim.

Obellisk posted...

So while some might want to say I'm hung up on ulti, it's more I feel that he has to be linked to wallz.

I have trouble seeing the connection between ulti and wallz if both are scum personally. If I'm right about wallz then he is actually a kidnapper (scum neighborizer~) and I don't know why he would waste the action on Ulti if they are scummates. Presumably if he were scum then Ulti would have had some sort of plan with whatever the hell his day 1 claim was, and having to immediately clarify his "claim" to vanilla based upon a neighbor + tracker combo would be a weird direction to take that plan.

Anyways i'm fighting off a migraine this morning (already thrown up once from it) so i'll be AWOL for awhile trying to sleep it off.

Convoluted for sure. But Ulti claims neighbor in name. Wallz claims renamed neighborizer.
wallz "targets" ulti.

Also kirby I agree with you, it is hyperfocused on that one thing however it branches into a lot more when you lay all the pieces on the table. And I'm not denying Wallz better moments of the game.

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