Current Events > Do you believe that Covid 19 was created by nature or man made?

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Smallville
02/08/24 8:49:53 AM
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do you

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creativerealms
02/08/24 9:51:17 AM
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Nature. Really it wasn't much different from any other disease that ravaged society. The main different was how connected and paranoid we are.

People want someone to blame. If it was a man made virus created in a lab then we have someone to blame. Since it started in China of course the existing China hatred fueled the conspiracies even more.

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LightHawKnight
02/08/24 9:58:39 AM
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Nature. Hell scientists were predicting a global pandemic was going to happen soon anyways.

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Kai_Laguna
02/08/24 9:59:01 AM
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Both, it originated in the wild but China definitely was fiddling around with it before it was accidentally released.
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Azn_Psycho
02/08/24 9:59:05 AM
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Little bit of both? Something in a lab crossed with something in nature. And I don't mean like something natural being modified and then released.

I mean like something they were researching and man-made got leaked. However, on its own it can only do so much, but then it crossed with something and that is what made it so much harder to contain.

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Smackems
02/08/24 10:00:31 AM
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I don't know

But it did seem like someone at a lab fucked up and it got out

Not gonna pretend I know for a fact, though, and for me it doesnt really matter how it got here. What matters is that it is here

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Touch_Fuzzy
02/08/24 10:01:01 AM
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idk. I wanna believe nature, and I have seen some of the evidence that it was manmade but at the same time I don't trust some of the narrative in the media surrounding China in general.

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OriginalPlain2
02/08/24 10:01:08 AM
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Let me be honest

I think its sort of both.

nature conjures a lot of questionable things, as well as what humans do

it wasnt uncommon for humans to mess with viruses just not long ago and combine this with human error and panic and you get epidemics

viruses can latch with bacteria and also evolve

I think a bug is already undetected rn and it sort of have nothing to do with Covid. Some strains are probably even not spoken to the public since they dont want to cause mass panic


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Bass
02/08/24 10:05:19 AM
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Dunno really. I assume nature, but it's possible that it escaped a lab at the very least.

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Itachi157
02/08/24 10:15:02 AM
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Manmade. China was 100% messing around with it in a lab and it got out. I dont think it was necessarily meant to be a bioweapon. I think a lot of scientists tinker around with viruses to try to understand them better etc. I think they were doing something like that rather than anything actively malicious.
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uwnim
02/08/24 10:31:31 AM
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Natural, but escaped from the lab is a pretty reasonable possibility. They collected stuff like bat viruses there and studied them.

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Zikten
02/08/24 10:33:13 AM
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I wonder if it was frozen or locked in some rock for millions of years, and then someone accidently freed it
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NeonTentacles
02/08/24 10:34:04 AM
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It was definitely made in a lab >_>

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boomgetchopped3
02/08/24 10:35:45 AM
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Im not a fan of the gain of function shit. Im not a scientist but yeah that scares me. Leave that shit alone.

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Roachmeat
02/08/24 10:48:34 AM
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'created by nature'

Whatever variables were added to it afterward is on science.

We have the closest thing to the virus version of Doomsday from DC comics.
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willythemailboy
02/08/24 11:02:52 AM
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I can't rule out lab tinkering but it's entirely possible that it was natural. Virologists know this sort of thing can happen at any time and the real question isn't how it happens it's why it happens so rarely.

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mario2000
02/08/24 11:08:26 AM
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created by nature, someone forgot to close the door behind them

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FL81
02/08/24 11:33:40 AM
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Nature, but man (read the Chinese, and later, US governments) handled it in the absolute worst ways possible

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kingdrake2
02/08/24 11:39:31 AM
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FL81 posted...
Nature, but man (read the Chinese, and later, US governments) handled it in the absolute worst ways possible


it was all over when it started spreading out of china (thank god for airplanes).

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whitelytning
02/08/24 11:45:02 AM
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Remember when suggesting it was leaked from a lab would get you modded and called a tin foil hatter?


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Smallville
02/08/24 12:39:45 PM
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whitelytning posted...
Remember when suggesting it was leaked from a lab would get you modded and called a tin foil hatter?
this was heavily enforced before, when? when did that stop?

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BignutzisBack
02/08/24 12:50:02 PM
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whitelytning posted...
Remember when suggesting it was leaked from a lab would get you modded and called a tin foil hatter?

By the same mods who initially mocked users who were concerned when the first reports from China came out lol, it was a very weird time

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Smallville
02/08/24 1:15:20 PM
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BignutzisBack posted...
By the same mods who initially mocked users who were concerned when the first reports from China came out lol, it was a very weird time
What did mods say though when it first came out?

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R_Jackal
02/08/24 1:20:39 PM
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Nature. Anything made by men would've either been far less effective, or far more deadly.
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Pikachuchupika
02/08/24 1:25:53 PM
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It came from within the city of Wuhan right? It has to be human fault then. A bat couldn't have travelled all that way to bite someone. We would have heard of someone being bit by one. That would have been patient zero. It's either the unsanitary wet markets or an outbreak from the lab nearby.
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mario2000
02/08/24 1:32:33 PM
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whitelytning posted...
Remember when suggesting it was leaked from a lab would get you modded and called a tin foil hatter?

No.

I DO remember when claiming that China created it out of whole cloth and purposefully unleashed it on the world would get you modded.

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LightHawKnight
02/08/24 2:52:23 PM
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whitelytning posted...
Remember when suggesting it was leaked from a lab would get you modded and called a tin foil hatter?

Member when people were super racist and anti-asian about it? I member.

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Philip027
02/08/24 2:53:57 PM
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Created by nature, perpetuated by man.
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Prismsblade
02/08/24 2:57:34 PM
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I believe it was man made, though some of the reasons for it is where you may have to dip into tin foil hat territory.

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Trumble
02/08/24 3:00:25 PM
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I wouldn't rule out a lab leak, but that doesn't mean it didn't come from nature to the lab and then leak. That seems the most likely explanation.

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devilminion
02/08/24 3:24:21 PM
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Smallville posted...
What did mods say though when it first came out?

I don't know about the others, but there is one active mod in particular that bragged about going to the store without a mask in the first few months of the pandemic, denying it was a big deal. He's changed his stance on it since then, but I still have him tagged for that initial attitude.

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solosnake
02/08/24 3:27:47 PM
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I thought the leak from the lab in wuhan was confirmed

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Kai_Laguna
02/08/24 3:40:07 PM
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solosnake posted...
I thought the leak from the lab in wuhan was confirmed
US government determind it most likely came from a Chinese lab leak. The CCP has blamed everything from non-Chinese frozen fish to the white-tailed deer population of North America.
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Unsuprised_Pika
02/08/24 3:49:11 PM
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Natural but aided by human action. Likely largely unwitting or carelessly rather then deliberate.

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pfh1001
02/08/24 5:32:10 PM
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Itachi157 posted...
Manmade. China was 100% messing around with it in a lab and it got out. I dont think it was necessarily meant to be a bioweapon. I think a lot of scientists tinker around with viruses to try to understand them better etc. I think they were doing something like that rather than anything actively malicious.


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