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every actor, athlete and model who makes money off their body is blasting steroids to look good.

Obviously lifting for physical and mental benefits is good, but you need to blast roids to get that jacked look

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people are gonna say he looks bad cause no abs

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As per usual, social networks are to blame.
Back in the day, the only people who took steroids where bodybuilding competitiors, nowdays we have random kids in their early 20s juicing for no other reason than to look better.
And then they ruin their health because they just start juicing unsupervised.

Then they want to act like bad guys until a construction worker bitchslaps them back into reality.

GunmaN1905 posted...

Then they want to act like bad guys until a construction worker bitchslaps them back into reality.

Or any of the Village People, really.

KingWhiteKnight posted...

people are gonna say he looks bad cause no abs

I think he looks pretty fucking hot.

GunmaN1905 posted...

As per usual, social networks are to blame.
Back in the day, the only people who took steroids where bodybuilding competitiors, nowdays we have random kids in their early 20s juicing for no other reason than to look better.
And then they ruin their health because they just start juicing unsupervised.

Then they want to act like bad guys until a construction worker bitchslaps them back into reality.

Agreed

Love the bodybuilding look but I'm way too lazy. I barely do enough to look decent naturally. Also, I want to live to see past 50. Which seems to be the magic number for steroid users to die.

KingWhiteKnight posted...

but you need to blast roids to get that jacked look

This is false

Nah, there's nothing wrong with natural body building. You absolutely can get jacked without steroids. It just takes a lot of time and dedication. Celebrities just misrepresent how quickly it can be done

NoxObscuras posted...

Nah, there's nothing wrong with natural body building. You absolutely can get jacked without steroids. It just takes a lot of time and dedication. Celebrities just misrepresent how quickly it can be done

Also agree

MrKapowski posted...

This is false

ikr, like hes never been in prison

I started lifting (no steroids obviously lol) and while I absolutely dont look swole or jacked I definitely look a bit bigger and stronger. My shoulders, chest and arms have definitely got more volume to them.

so you can still improve your body but yeah I guess to look truly buff or whatever you either have to do steroids or dedicate your life to the gym and making sure your nutrition is on point.

Natural bodybuilding is definitely a thing. You can look very muscular and strong without any steroids. It takes years of effort and discipline though, so yeah a lot of celebrities and actors just juice to get bigger, faster gains.

Yeah it's just as much about your nutrition as what you do in the gym. Also genetics play a part. But you can get big without steroids. I don't believe you can get Mr. Olympia big naturally though, or even Sam Sulek big. That dude, nice as he seems, has had a horrible impact on young bodybuilders IMO.

Most people claiming to be natty really just juiced when they were younger then stopped. Enough to reach an unnatural plateau then continue maintaining it.

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Apparently "I want to look like Brad Pitt in Fight Club" is such a common request to personal trainers that they just finish their clients' sentences for them when they ask. Personally, if I had the money and motivation to hire a trainer, I'd be happy looking like Harrison Ford in Temple of Doom.

Fun fact: Dacre Montgomery (aka Billy in Stranger Things) had apparently been super-shredded for a previous movie when he took the role, but he had to tone it down because no teenager in the 80's realistically looked like that; he said the experience left him feeling 'chubby.' So the next time you're watching Stranger Things and see Billy strutting shirtless by the poolside recreating that infamous Phoebe Cates Fast Times scene, keep in mind that this is what the actor looks like when he thinks he's chubby.

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Whew lawd. He could take it. Easily.

You can get buff and what most people call jacked without steroids, but your limit and pace of progress is obviously going to be lower.

I've been lifting for over 20 years and 18-inch arms seem to be my genetic limit. I can keep getting stronger and I've been chasing a 405 bench press for over a decade that I hope to reach this year. I know I can reach at least a 600 lb squat naturally someday, too. But drugs would make all that happen quicker.

Another big difference is I have to put on a fair bit of bodyfat to keep progressing and smashing through plateaus. My main tactic to hit those lift numbers I mentioned is to eat a ton. Not just protein but enough carbs to reach a caloric excess for sustaining a heavier bodyweight. Nutrition still applies to steroid-users but you're just so much better at partitioning nutrients with anabolic drugs that you can be stronger AND stay leaner (if you so choose; obviously, there are husky powerlifters on chemical assistance).

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Wtf he looks bad. No abs

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I think big muscles look awesome. I don't have any logic or reasoning behind it, I just like the way they look.

While I'm not willing to do what it takes to be "enhanced", I would absolutely look like that naturally if I could press a button.

He does have abs wtf you guys talking about
Maybe not highly visible

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This pic is my goal. Getting there

Here is a natty bodybuilding pro:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/8b3c7bd3.jpg

Especially with lighting and a pump, you can look damn good as a natty. Granted this guy in particular is a multi time Natural Olympia champ, but you can still get ripped.

The natural guys are just 160-170 lbs at single digit bodyfat, and would look pretty normal (or even a little sickly) with their clothes on, compared to the regular bodybuilders who are 220-280 lbs in single digit bodyfat and look like absolute monsters even with their clothes on

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His chest looks huge there and is what I'm aiming for pretty much. He might not be jacked, but he definitely lifts a lot

Yeah that guy is a genetic freak for sure. This is another natty bodybuilder who has much more average genetics, but has spent several years training hard for it. He got a pro card, but isn't winning any national championships:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/bfe27d13.jpg

He is like 155 lbs, 5' 8" when competing, probably looks terrible when he has his shirt on walking in and out of the competition venue lol

Good lord these guys are natural? How stringent is the testing for this stuff? I'm a tad skeptical.

Obviously there's sometimes enhancements, but the shredded look is mostly cause these dudes have like 2% body fat on them. Most of these natty bodybuilders dudes are killing themselves with some very specific diet and dehydration to make all the muscles and veins pop. Donald Glover there just has more body fat on him than dedicated body builders.

I used to look a lot more jacked and shredded, but I also only weighed 135 lbs at 5'8". I'm about 170ish now and have more of that Donald Glover look there, which I prefer.

SauI_Goodman posted...

Good lord these guys are natural? How stringent is the testing for this stuff? I'm a tad skeptical.

Its pretty strict, for pros its lot of blood tests like the UFC plus polygraph tests. Lighting and a pump also make them look significantly better than they do in real life. Like this is the dude in his routine, w/ a full tan and oil:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/0/0333c593.jpg

He looks significantly smaller. He is extremely lean so you can see all the vascularity and muscle striations, but he isn't really that big. His chest actually looks pretty shitty, I think he just has really bad pec genetics. With a shirt on you wouldn't even know he lifts.

How does that make it joke? Sounds like it's the only real one.

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Yeah Donald Glover definitely works out a lot and I'm sure eats well:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/b9413b3e.jpg

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I meant "jacked" in the way many seem to use it. As in, low body fat, veins, etc. I definitely agree that his body is hard to get, but I could see others thinking he wasn't.

I'll let others comment and correct me, but that's a huge chest for his weight. The only thing that looks "small" are his shoulders, which might just be due to angle.

PesticideDream posted...

Most of these natty bodybuilders dudes are killing themselves with some very specific diet and dehydration to make all the muscles and veins pop.

I dunno if they're "killing themselves", you just underhydrate a bit for competitions or photoshoots or whatever and then go back to normal afterwards

one of my work colleagues once was also a bodybuilder (the kind that do shows and stuff) and most of the time he just looked like a normal particularly buff guy