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Fenriswolf
02/06/24 3:35:01 AM
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https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/east-asia/article/3251026/miss-japans-ukraine-born-winner-gives-crown-after-apologising-over-affair

A Ukraine-born model with Japanese citizenship who won the 2024 Miss Japan beauty pageant has given up her title, competition organisers said Monday, in the wake of a magazine report detailing her relationship with a married man.

Karolina Shiino, 26, was named the 2024 Miss Japan Grand Prix winner on January 22. She was the first person of European descent to win the top prize in the contest organisers say is dedicated to crowning a representation of the foremost beauty of all Japanese women


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AceMos
02/06/24 3:44:17 AM
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in other words racist bigots forced her out

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kingdrake2
02/06/24 3:58:44 AM
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AceMos posted...
in other words racist bigots forced her out


pretty much that. yes.

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boxoto
02/06/24 4:04:04 AM
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idk if it's a race thing.

for pageant winners, they usually want people without scandal.

since she's a public figure, her affair would have still been publicized regardless of her race.

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Guide
02/06/24 4:17:00 AM
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AceMos posted...
in other words racist bigots forced her out

I'm not following the thought process.

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TheSavageDragon
02/06/24 5:23:16 AM
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Guide posted...
I'm not following the thought process.

There were people making a big deal about her not being of Asian heritage when she won the title.
It's very likely a big factor and the relationship a convenient excuse to ditch her.
But then again...Japan is kind of known for expecting public figures to be flawless individuals. So it could be a combination of both with the relationship just adding fuel to an already existing fire.
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ai123
02/06/24 5:26:25 AM
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Bit of nationalist bigotry? Possibly

A ton of misogynist bigotry? Definitely.

Can't be a beautiful woman if you're having a sex life people disapprove of.

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Ricemills
02/06/24 5:33:12 AM
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ai123 posted...
Can't be a beautiful woman if you're having a sex life people disapprove of.

Aw shit, she's having sex life?

Knowing Japan, she's probably getting death threats.

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mustachedmystic
02/06/24 6:12:54 AM
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Can I assume dat politicians get da same treatment? Or do dey get away with being imperfect because dey have power?

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YugiNoob
02/06/24 6:25:21 AM
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mustachedmystic posted...
Can I assume dat politicians get da same treatment? Or do dey get away with being imperfect because dey have power?
Yeah... lots of politicians resign because of affairs.

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Damn_Underscore
02/06/24 6:32:31 AM
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ai123 posted...
Bit of nationalist bigotry? Possibly

A ton of misogynist bigotry? Definitely.

Can't be a beautiful woman if you're having a sex life people disapprove of.

She cheated with a married man. Extramarital affairs arent socially acceptable for men either.

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Guide
02/06/24 6:35:01 AM
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TheSavageDragon posted...
There were people making a big deal about her not being of Asian heritage when she won the title.
It's very likely a big factor and the relationship a convenient excuse to ditch her.
But then again...Japan is kind of known for expecting public figures to be flawless individuals. So it could be a combination of both with the relationship just adding fuel to an already existing fire.

Makes sense, though I won't lose sleep over a cheater getting fucked over from being a cheater. She's culturally Japanese, she knew what would happen if she got caught.

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GuerrillaSoldier
02/06/24 6:36:11 AM
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on one hand, she knew it could be used against her. on the other hand, i don't personally believe she's the only one to ever do it, but i doubt it mattered in any other case because they had no reason to dig it up and force out a miss japan. but the fact that they had incentive here and jumped on playing that card is kinda obvious.


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kingdrake2
02/06/24 1:41:43 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
She cheated with a married man


i wish people who wanted to cheat... break things off before they start doing that shit.
then again if that happened. wouldn't be anymore cheating.

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SecretBase
02/06/24 1:47:22 PM
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Why are people whining about Japanese culture not honoring homewreckers?

Not every country needs to be degenerate like the US. Us having no standards for the personal lives of the celebrities we idolize is why trash like Trump get cult followings here.

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NeonTentacles
02/06/24 1:48:07 PM
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Damn, what a homewrecker

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ArsGoetia
02/06/24 1:51:27 PM
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this isnt really atypical
multiple japanese musicians have had the entire catalogue of their band blacklisted and records pulled from shelves for similar scandals or doing something as heinous as gasp smoking pot
cloud strife's JP VA was fired from a lot of projects b/c of affair recently
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ssb_yunglink2
02/06/24 1:52:06 PM
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ai123 posted...
Bit of nationalist bigotry? Possibly

A ton of misogynist bigotry? Definitely.

Can't be a beautiful woman if you're having a sex life people disapprove of.
Is there anyone who approves of affairs?

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VampireCoyote
02/06/24 1:54:07 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
She cheated with a married man. Extramarital affairs arent socially acceptable for men either.

He cheated. She just got some.

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eggcorn
02/06/24 1:55:50 PM
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AceMos posted...
in other words racist bigots forced her out


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berlyman101
02/06/24 1:56:20 PM
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I like many aspects of Japanese culture but this aspect of it is irredeemably misogynistic. It's not good behavior to have affairs but to publically shame and hurt people's careers for it is abhorrent unless it's someone like a politician or religious figure who uses their influence to punish others for similar actions.

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ai123
02/06/24 1:56:28 PM
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SecretBase posted...
Why are people whining about Japanese culture not honoring unfaithful homewreckers?

The married person is responsible for the preservation of their home.

Not every country needs to be degenerate like the US. Us having no standards for the personal lives of the celebrities we idolize is why trash like Trump get cult followings here.

Trump's personal life isn't the problem with Trump. FDR had a longstanding extramarital affair.


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FL81
02/06/24 1:59:18 PM
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due to affair
Fair, next.

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Seaman_Prime
02/06/24 1:59:43 PM
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I just realized pageants are just irl waifu wars. It all makes sense now
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ArsGoetia
02/06/24 1:59:52 PM
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berlyman101 posted...
I like many aspects of Japanese culture but this aspect of it is irredeemably misogynistic. It's not good behavior to have affairs but to publically shame and hurt people's careers for it is abhorrent unless it's someone like a politician or religious figure who uses their influence to punish others for similar actions.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takahiro_Sakurai
Sakurai has been married to a former voice actress for nearly 20 years, which was not disclosed to the public until September 2022 after he acknowledged a report published by Shukan Bunshun.[9][10] On October 26, 2022, Shukan Bunshun reported that Sakurai had been having an extramarital affair with a writer from his radio show, P.S. Genki Desu: Takahiro, which began in October 2013 and had been terminated suddenly on October 24, 2022, without any explanation of reasons given.[11][12] The two had been in a relationship for 10 years, with them intending to marry; however, the writer had allegedly not been aware of Sakurai's marital status until September 2022.[12] On November 3, 2022, the chief of Second Shot, the company behind Sakurai's radio show, apologized to the listeners, who were upset from Sakurai and the writer dating and having to listen to them on the radio show.[13] In the same announcement, they cancelled preorders for a product originally set to be released in November 2022.[14]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatsuhisa_Suzuki

Shkan Bunshun reported that Suzuki was engaged to LiSA in May 2019.[3] In January 2020, the two publicly revealed their relationship and announced they had married.[4][5] On April 25, 2023, his wife LiSA announced the birth of their first child on an Instagram post.[6][7][8]
On August 4, 2021, Suzuki went on hiatus due to poor health issues, following a report published on July 30 by Shkan Bunshun alleging that he was involved in an extramarital affair with a female work associate.[9] The same report also alleged that Suzuki had possibly violated non-disclosure agreements during the affair regarding music he and Oldcodex had been working on for other anime series. On August 30, 2021, Suzuki released a statement apologizing for his "careless behavior."[10] As a result of the hiatus, he withdrew from Ultraman.[11] He was also recast in Kikai Sentai Zenkaiger,[12] the CD bonuses of the game adaptation of My Next Life as a Villainess: All Routes Lead to Doom!,[13] Pokmon Journeys: The Series,[14] Alchemy Stars,[15] The Misfit of Demon King Academy,[16] and Tokyo Revengers.[17]


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berlyman101
02/06/24 2:01:50 PM
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ArsGoetia posted...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takahiro_Sakurai

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatsuhisa_Suzuki

take a look at their career listings/filmography post scandal

I'm sorry but that's too much detail to figure out with no additional context. What do you mean to get across with this?

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Background_Guy
02/06/24 2:03:16 PM
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SecretBase posted...
Not every country needs to be degenerate like the US.
Read your sig, pls
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NeonTentacles
02/06/24 2:03:44 PM
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ai123 posted...


The married person is responsible for the preservation of their home.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/55009915.png

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ArsGoetia
02/06/24 2:04:48 PM
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berlyman101 posted...
I'm sorry but that's too much detail to figure out with no additional context. What do you mean to get across with this?

"i wont read b/c im wrong"
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MarcoRubio
02/06/24 2:05:08 PM
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SecretBase posted...
Why are people whining about Japanese culture not honoring homewreckers?

Not every country needs to be degenerate like the US. Us having no standards for the personal lives of the celebrities we idolize is why trash like Trump get cult followings here.

You should read your sig

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WingsOfGood
02/06/24 2:07:27 PM
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AceMos posted...
in other words racist bigots forced her out

Or are you being racist against Japanese culture?

ArsGoetia posted...
this isnt really atypical
multiple japanese musicians have had the entire catalogue of their band blacklisted and records pulled from shelves for similar scandals or doing something as heinous as gasp smoking pot
cloud strife's JP VA was fired from a lot of projects b/c of affair recently
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ai123
02/06/24 2:07:29 PM
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NeonTentacles posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/55009915.png
The married person chose to ruin their marriage. They are the one who has an obligation to their family.

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SecretBase
02/06/24 2:08:50 PM
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ai123 posted...
The married person is responsible for the preservation of their home.

Sounds like homewrecker talk.

Look, it'd be cool if you were just a sociopath and didn't care about anything in general, but it's a bit gear grinding when someome seemingly admits to a lack of basic decency and empathy on a personal level, but simulanenously still tries to guilt trip and shame others along social justice lines. "She's not bad for dating a married guy but you're sure misogynistic for disapproving." You can't just pick and choose which moral responsibilities others should care about.

If someone's ignorant of the other person's marital status then that's not on them, and if the marriage is already seperating then it's whatever, but knowingly choosing to get involved with someone in a marriage they have no intention of ending is just gross. In that case you are willingly dating a duplicitous piece of shit.

ai123 posted...
Trump's personal life isn't the problem with Trump. FDR had a longstanding extramarital affair.

Then FDR is also kind of a shitty guy, regardless of his general effectiveness as president (internment camps aside).

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NeonTentacles
02/06/24 2:09:12 PM
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ai123 posted...
The married person chose to ruin their marriage. They are the one who has an obligation to their family.

NeonTentacles posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/55009915.png


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ssb_yunglink2
02/06/24 2:10:33 PM
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ai123 posted...
The married person chose to ruin their marriage. They are the one who has an obligation to their family.
that doesnt make the one cheating with the married person blameless though lol

If you have an affair knowing someone is married then you suck. Theres no debate to be had

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WingsOfGood
02/06/24 2:11:43 PM
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ssb_yunglink2 posted...
that doesnt make the one cheating with the married person blameless though lol

If you have an affair knowing someone is married then you suck. Theres no debate to be had

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C_Pain
02/06/24 2:17:11 PM
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Beauty contests are stupid but I don't see why that should disqualify her. It's kinda weird she was miss Japan though, when she's not Japanese. Please don't say that's racist. I'm saying it's odd.

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KStateKing17
02/06/24 2:25:08 PM
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C_Pain posted...
Beauty contests are stupid but I don't see why that should disqualify her. It's kinda weird she was miss Japan though, when she's not Japanese. Please don't say that's racist. I'm saying it's odd.
Pageant rules and requirements are pretty crazy in general. I recall there being controversy due to one contestant being divorced.

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TheSavageDragon
02/06/24 2:29:48 PM
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C_Pain posted...
Beauty contests are stupid but I don't see why that should disqualify her. It's kinda weird she was miss Japan though, when she's not Japanese. Please don't say that's racist. I'm saying it's odd.

Depends on how you view things really. If someone spends their formative years and the vast majority of their life in Japan and does pretty much every single thing an ethnically Asian Japanese person does, I'd say they're Japanese.
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CARRRNE_ASADA
02/06/24 2:34:39 PM
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Theres probably some racism behind this, but I guess it was the perfect excuse to throw her out

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ai123
02/06/24 2:35:02 PM
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SecretBase posted...
Sounds like homewrecker talk.

Look, it'd be cool if you were just a sociopath and didn't care about anything in general, but it's a bit gear grinding when someome seemingly admits to a lack of basic decency and empathy on a personal level, but simulanenously still tries to guilt trip and shame others along social justice lines. "She's not bad for dating a married guy but you're sure misogynistic for disapproving." You can't just pick and choose which moral responsibilities others should care about.

If someone's ignorant of the other person's marital status then that's not on them, and if the marriage is already seperating then it's whatever, but knowingly choosing to get involved with someone in a marriage they have no intention of ending is just gross. In that case you are willingly dating a duplicitous piece of shit.

And yet, without knowing any of these circumstances, you choose to throw around the term 'homewrecker', and do not even consider the responsibility of the married partner.

I hold their responsibility to be greater, because they have the greater obligation to their family.

Then FDR is also kind of a shitty guy, regardless of his general effectiveness as president (internment camps aside).

So marital fidelity isn't really relevant to presidential effectiveness. Which was my point.

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trivialbeing
02/06/24 2:49:39 PM
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AceMos posted...
in other words racist bigots forced her out
no I'm pretty it's because she had an affair with the judges
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TheSavageDragon
02/06/24 2:53:22 PM
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trivialbeing posted...
no I'm pretty it's because she had an affair with the judges

I didn't know a doctor was judging the competition
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trivialbeing
02/06/24 2:55:23 PM
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TheSavageDragon posted...
I didn't know a doctor was judging the competition
it wasn't a judge? That's what I read on the twitterz
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TheSavageDragon
02/06/24 3:00:09 PM
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trivialbeing posted...
it wasn't a judge? That's what I read on the twitterz

The article in the OP claims it's some doctor so I'd assume not related to the competition
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SecretBase
02/06/24 3:21:38 PM
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ai123 posted...
And yet, without knowing any of these circumstances, you choose to throw around the term 'homewrecker', and do not even consider the responsibility of the married partner.

I know the details because they're key to the controversy. First she denied seeing the guy, then she denied knowing he was married, then she clamed she broke it off after finding out he was married. All of these claims were false and she later confessed to making them up because she was conflicted and afraid. And the dude has clarified that he never expressed any intention of divorcing his wife.

ai123 posted...
So marital fidelity isn't really relevant to presidential effectiveness. Which was my point.

Problem is Miss Japan isn't a job, it's a nomination for Miss Universe. Miss Universe is basically looking to recognize the most beautiful woman of the year both inside and out. If your morals are in public question then you're obviously not gonna win and are wasting your country's nomination. There is no logical move but to bow out.

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Kimbos_Egg
02/06/24 3:23:24 PM
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guys, non japanese women have won miss japan before, you know that right?

Its almost as if what she did was fucking stupid, and shes not the first person world wide to have it taken away from her for her own stupidity.

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02/06/24 3:26:05 PM
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ai123
02/06/24 3:34:42 PM
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SecretBase posted...
I know the details because they're key to the controversy. First she denied seeing the guy, then she denied knowing he was married, then she clamed she broke it off after finding out he was married. All of these claims were false and she later confessed to making them up because she was conflicted and afraid. And the dude has clarified that he never expressed any intention of divorcing his wife.

Last report I read, the man had made no statement.

Problem is Miss Japan isn't a job, it's a nomination for Miss Universe. Miss Universe is basically looking to recognize the most beautiful woman of the year both inside and out. If your morals are in public question then you're obviously not gonna win and are wasting your country's nomination. There is no logical move but to bow out.

You brought up the comparison to Trump.You will know the point you were trying to make. I only argue that marital fidelity is not related to presidential effectiveness.


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mustachedmystic
02/06/24 5:02:52 PM
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SecretBase posted...
Why are people whining about Japanese culture not honoring homewreckers?

Not every country needs to be degenerate like the US. Us having no standards for the personal lives of the celebrities we idolize is why trash like Trump get cult followings here.
You think da US is da only country wit degenerate pols? Italy had a Prime Minister dat had origies wit teenagers on da regular. Called dem bunga bunga parties iirc.

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