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Cocytus 02/05/24 10:24:32 AM #1:	Guilty? - Results (93 votes) 1. Yes 82.8% (77 votes) 77 2. No 17.2% (16 votes) 16 https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/05/us/jennifer-crumbley-oxford-shooting-trial/index.html Jury begins deliberations in manslaughter trial of Michigan school shooters mother Jennifer Crumbley A jury began deliberating Monday in the manslaughter trial of Jennifer Crumbley, the mother of the teenager who killed four people at a Michigan high school in 2021, in a novel legal case that stands as a test of the limits of whos responsible for a mass shooting. Crumbley, 45, has pleaded not guilty to four counts of involuntary manslaughter for her role in the November 30, 2021, mass shooting at Oxford High School, which left four students dead and seven others wounded. The jury of 12, made up of six men and six women, must be unanimous to reach a verdict. Five alternates will remain sequestered in a separate room from the main panel for the duration of deliberations. The prosecution has argued she is responsible for the deaths because she was grossly negligent in giving a gun to her son Ethan, who was 15 at the time, and failing to get him proper mental health treatment despite warning signs. Over a week of testimony, law enforcement officials, school employees, shooting victims and those who knew Jennifer Crumbley testified for the prosecution. Its a rare case that takes some really egregious facts, Oakland County Prosecutor Karen McDonald said in closing arguments Friday. It takes the unthinkable, and she has done the unthinkable, and because of that, four kids have died. However, the defense has argued the blame lay elsewhere: on her husband for improperly securing the firearm; on the school for failing to notify her about her sons behavioral issues; and on Ethan himself, who planned and carried out the attack on his own. Defense attorney Shannon Smith said the case was dangerous for parents everywhere. Can every parent really be responsible for everything their children do, especially when its not foreseeable? Smith said in closing arguments. Jennifer Crumbley took the stand in her own defense and, in a remarkable moment, expressed no regret for her actions. Ive asked myself if I would have done anything differently, and I wouldnt have, she testified. Closing arguments took place Friday. The judge is expected to instruct the jury on the law Monday morning and deliberations will follow. More in article... --- You're never ever fully dressed without a smile! <cite>Cocytus posted [p:978665268] in Do you thi... [t:80688561]...</cite> <quote> Guilty? - Results (93 votes) 1. Yes 82.8% (77 votes) 77 2. No 17.2% (16 votes) 16 Show Voting Form https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/05/us/jennifer-crumbley-oxford-shooting-trial/index.htmlJury begins deliberations in manslaughter trial of Michigan school shooters mother Jennifer CrumbleyA jury began deliberating Monday in the manslaughter trial of Jennifer Crumbley, the mother of the teenager who killed four people at a Michigan high school in 2021, in a novel legal case that stands as a test of the limits of whos responsible for a mass shooting.Crumbley, 45, has pleaded not guilty to four counts of involuntary manslaughter for her role in the November 30, 2021, mass shooting at Oxford High School, which left four students dead and seven others wounded.The jury of 12, made up of six men and six women, must be unanimous to reach a verdict. Five alternates will remain sequestered in a separate room from the main panel for the duration of deliberations.The prosecution has argued she is responsible for the deaths because she was grossly negligent in giving a gun to her son Ethan, who was 15 at the time, and failing to get him proper mental health treatment despite warning signs. Over a week of testimony, law enforcement officials, school employees, shooting victims and those who knew Jennifer Crumbley testified for the prosecution.Its a rare case that takes some really egregious facts, Oakland County Prosecutor Karen McDonald said in closing arguments Friday. It takes the unthinkable, and she has done the unthinkable, and because of that, four kids have died.However, the defense has argued the blame lay elsewhere: on her husband for improperly securing the firearm; on the school for failing to notify her about her sons behavioral issues; and on Ethan himself, who planned and carried out the attack on his own. Defense attorney Shannon Smith said the case was dangerous for parents everywhere.Can every parent really be responsible for everything their children do, especially when its not foreseeable? Smith said in closing arguments.Jennifer Crumbley took the stand in her own defense and, in a remarkable moment, expressed no regret for her actions.Ive asked myself if I would have done anything differently, and I wouldnt have, she testified.Closing arguments took place Friday. The judge is expected to instruct the jury on the law Monday morning and deliberations will follow.More in article... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lilORANG 02/05/24 10:26:50 AM #2:	Oh yeah, fuck this lady. --- Science and Algorithms <cite>lilORANG posted [p:978665299] in Do you thi... [t:80688561]...</cite> <quote>Oh yeah, fuck this lady. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jupiter 02/05/24 10:30:07 AM #3:	Cocytus posted... Ive asked myself if I would have done anything differently, and I wouldnt have, she testified. Wow. --- Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/kid_prodigy23 <cite>Jupiter posted [p:978665344] in Do you thi... [t:80688561]...</cite> <quote>Cocytus posted... </cite><quote>Ive asked myself if I would have done anything differently, and I wouldnt have, she testified.</quote>Wow. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 02/05/24 10:30:54 AM #4:	To honest, my first thought was that involuntary manslaughter was probably going a bit far. Then I remembered that she gave a gun to a mentally ill 15 year old. So in this case, she does carry a large amount of responsibility for what happened. --- 'Vinyl is the poor man's art collection'. <cite>ai123 posted [p:978665361] in Do you thi... [t:80688561]...</cite> <quote>To honest, my first thought was that involuntary manslaughter was probably going a bit far.Then I remembered that she gave a gun to a mentally ill 15 year old.So in this case, she does carry a large amount of responsibility for what happened. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mystic_belmont 02/05/24 10:35:55 AM #6:	She told her kid to be better at hiding his homicidal tendencies. So yeah, fuck her. --- "Freedom was meaningless without ownership and control over one's own body" -Tera Hunter 'Joy My Freedom' [Evil Republican] 3DS FC: 5429-7297-4842 <cite>mystic_belmont posted [p:978665451] in Do you thi... [t:80688561]...</cite> <quote>She told her kid to be better at hiding his homicidal tendencies.So yeah, fuck her. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thermador446 02/05/24 10:39:06 AM #7:	Hearing her excuses in court shows how fucking dumb she is. If her lawyer was smart, they wouldn't have let her talk. I do feel a little bad for the Crumbly kid, his dumb as shit parents just weren't capable of raising a child. --- "While you were wasting your time castrating a priceless antique, I was systematically feeding babies to hungry mutated puppies!" -The Monarch <cite>Thermador446 posted [p:978665514] in Do you thi... [t:80688561]...</cite> <quote>Hearing her excuses in court shows how fucking dumb she is. If her lawyer was smart, they wouldn't have let her talk.I do feel a little bad for the Crumbly kid, his dumb as shit parents just weren't capable of raising a child. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mystic_belmont 02/05/24 10:40:32 AM #8:	Schools have been weakened so much by conservative parents, that when parents refuse to take their kid out of school after being told the kid is dangerous, they just accept it. --- "Freedom was meaningless without ownership and control over one's own body" -Tera Hunter 'Joy My Freedom' [Evil Republican] 3DS FC: 5429-7297-4842 <cite>mystic_belmont posted [p:978665549] in Do you thi... [t:80688561]...</cite> <quote>Schools have been weakened so much by conservative parents, that when parents refuse to take their kid out of school after being told the kid is dangerous, they just accept it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cocytus 02/05/24 10:41:08 AM #9:	ai123 posted... mentally ill I thought they said in court that he is not mentally ill. --- You're never ever fully dressed without a smile! <cite>Cocytus posted [p:978665555] in Do you thi... [t:80688561]...</cite> <quote>ai123 posted... </cite><quote>mentally ill</quote>I thought they said in court that he is not mentally ill. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 02/05/24 10:43:24 AM #10:	She should be charged with something, I don't know what, but involuntary manslaughter isn't it. --- THE Ohio State: 11-2 \| Las Vegas Raiders: 8-9 <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:978665589] in Do you thi... [t:80688561]...</cite> <quote>She should be charged with something, I don't know what, but involuntary manslaughter isn't it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
boomgetchopped3 02/05/24 10:45:06 AM #11:	I see the point in making an example of these parents. Not sure if theyre legally responsible or not. --- More to do with the humidity than heat <cite>boomgetchopped3 posted [p:978665616] in Do you thi... [t:80688561]...</cite> <quote>I see the point in making an example of these parents. Not sure if theyre legally responsible or not. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 02/05/24 10:45:28 AM #12:	Cocytus posted... I thought they said in court that he is not mentally ill. That's a matter of dispute between defence and prosecution. So let me amend what I wrote and say that giving a gun to a 15 year old who had displayed the behaviours that Ethan Crumbley had, was not a reasonable thing to do. --- 'Vinyl is the poor man's art collection'. <cite>ai123 posted [p:978665622] in Do you thi... [t:80688561]...</cite> <quote>Cocytus posted... </cite><quote>I thought they said in court that he is not mentally ill.</quote>That's a matter of dispute between defence and prosecution.So let me amend what I wrote and say that giving a gun to a 15 year old who had displayed the behaviours that Ethan Crumbley had, was not a reasonable thing to do. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mystic_belmont 02/05/24 10:49:09 AM #13:	Don't forget that she and her husband basically fled the state and tried to evade the police. --- "Freedom was meaningless without ownership and control over one's own body" -Tera Hunter 'Joy My Freedom' [Evil Republican] 3DS FC: 5429-7297-4842 <cite>mystic_belmont posted [p:978665673] in Do you thi... [t:80688561]...</cite> <quote>Don't forget that she and her husband basically fled the state and tried to evade the police. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cocytus 02/05/24 10:53:32 AM #14:	mystic_belmont posted... Don't forget that she and her husband basically fled the state and tried to evade the police. Fled but wasn't charged with anything. Looks bad, not a crime. --- You're never ever fully dressed without a smile! <cite>Cocytus posted [p:978665740] in Do you thi... [t:80688561]...</cite> <quote>mystic_belmont posted... </cite><quote>Don't forget that she and her husband basically fled the state and tried to evade the police.</quote>Fled but wasn't charged with anything. Looks bad, not a crime. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revisited 02/05/24 10:55:36 AM #15:	Why do they always look exactly how you'd expect them to look? <cite>Revisited posted [p:978665780] in Do you thi... [t:80688561]...</cite> <quote>Why do they always look exactly how you'd expect them to look?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ItsNotA2Mer 02/05/24 10:56:38 AM #16:	Cocytus posted... I thought they said in court that he is not mentally ill. You don't need a court to tell you that a kid who shoots up a school very obviously has mental issues. --- It is impossible to live in the past, difficult to live in the present, and a waste to live in the future. (He/Him). <cite>ItsNotA2Mer posted [p:978665805] in Do you thi... [t:80688561]...</cite> <quote>Cocytus posted... </cite><quote>I thought they said in court that he is not mentally ill.</quote>You don't need a court to tell you that a kid who shoots up a school very obviously has mental issues. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cocytus 02/05/24 10:57:42 AM #17:	ItsNotA2Mer posted... You don't need a court to tell you that a kid who shoots up a school very obviously has mental issues. You do if it's evidence in a court. --- You're never ever fully dressed without a smile! <cite>Cocytus posted [p:978665818] in Do you thi... [t:80688561]...</cite> <quote>ItsNotA2Mer posted... </cite><quote>You don't need a court to tell you that a kid who shoots up a school very obviously has mental issues.</quote>You do if it's evidence in a court. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 02/05/24 10:59:56 AM #18:	ItsNotA2Mer posted... You don't need a court to tell you that a kid who shoots up a school very obviously has mental issues. Yes. What they are arguing about is whether or not he has a diagnosis that can be used in mitigation. It's more of a legal issue than anything else. --- 'Vinyl is the poor man's art collection'. <cite>ai123 posted [p:978665854] in Do you thi... [t:80688561]...</cite> <quote>ItsNotA2Mer posted... </cite><quote>You don't need a court to tell you that a kid who shoots up a school very obviously has mental issues.</quote>Yes.What they are arguing about is whether or not he has a diagnosis that can be used in mitigation. It's more of a legal issue than anything else. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ItsNotA2Mer 02/05/24 11:02:12 AM #19:	ai123 posted... Yes. What they are arguing about is whether or not he has a diagnosis that can be used in mitigation. It's more of a legal issue than anything else. That makes more sense. I haven't been keeping up with the case, but the kid definitely didn't seem insane, just really fucked up. --- It is impossible to live in the past, difficult to live in the present, and a waste to live in the future. (He/Him). <cite>ItsNotA2Mer posted [p:978665898] in Do you thi... [t:80688561]...</cite> <quote>ai123 posted... </cite><quote>Yes.What they are arguing about is whether or not he has a diagnosis that can be used in mitigation. It's more of a legal issue than anything else.</quote>That makes more sense. I haven't been keeping up with the case, but the kid definitely didn't seem insane, just really fucked up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mystic_belmont 02/05/24 11:06:50 AM #20:	ItsNotA2Mer posted... You don't need a court to tell you that a kid who shoots up a school very obviously has mental issues. Didn't the school tell his parents he was seeing demons, and they straight up refused to leave to take care of him? --- "Freedom was meaningless without ownership and control over one's own body" -Tera Hunter 'Joy My Freedom' [Evil Republican] 3DS FC: 5429-7297-4842 <cite>mystic_belmont posted [p:978665963] in Do you thi... [t:80688561]...</cite> <quote>ItsNotA2Mer posted... </cite><quote>You don't need a court to tell you that a kid who shoots up a school very obviously has mental issues.</quote>Didn't the school tell his parents he was seeing demons, and they straight up refused to leave to take care of him? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cocytus 02/05/24 11:08:51 AM #21:	mystic_belmont posted... Didn't the school tell his parents he was seeing demons, and they straight up refused to leave to take care of him? See I don't understand why the school isn't in trouble because of that morning meeting and they let him stay at school. --- You're never ever fully dressed without a smile! <cite>Cocytus posted [p:978665999] in Do you thi... [t:80688561]...</cite> <quote>mystic_belmont posted... </cite><quote>Didn't the school tell his parents he was seeing demons, and they straight up refused to leave to take care of him?</quote>See I don't understand why the school isn't in trouble because of that morning meeting and they let him stay at school. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mystic_belmont 02/05/24 11:14:42 AM #22:	Cocytus posted... See I don't understand why the school isn't in trouble because of that morning meeting and they let him stay at school. So, the school has several choices: 1) Have the parents take custody (they refused) 2) Send the kid home, where he might be suicidal. 3) Send him back to class, not knowing he has a weapon, endangering other students. 4) Have a school staff member watch him, not knowing he has a weapon, endangering the staff member. --- "Freedom was meaningless without ownership and control over one's own body" -Tera Hunter 'Joy My Freedom' [Evil Republican] 3DS FC: 5429-7297-4842 <cite>mystic_belmont posted [p:978666088] in Do you thi... [t:80688561]...</cite> <quote>Cocytus posted... </cite><quote>See I don't understand why the school isn't in trouble because of that morning meeting and they let him stay at school.</quote>So, the school has several choices:1) Have the parents take custody (they refused)2) Send the kid home, where he might be suicidal.3) Send him back to class, not knowing he has a weapon, endangering other students.4) Have a school staff member watch him, not knowing he has a weapon, endangering the staff member. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cocytus 02/05/24 11:37:58 AM #23:	mystic_belmont posted... So, the school has several choices: 1) Have the parents take custody (they refused) 2) Send the kid home, where he might be suicidal. 3) Send him back to class, not knowing he has a weapon, endangering other students. 4) Have a school staff member watch him, not knowing he has a weapon, endangering the staff member. 2 --- You're never ever fully dressed without a smile! <cite>Cocytus posted [p:978666500] in Do you thi... [t:80688561]...</cite> <quote>mystic_belmont posted... </cite><quote>So, the school has several choices:1) Have the parents take custody (they refused)2) Send the kid home, where he might be suicidal.3) Send him back to class, not knowing he has a weapon, endangering other students.4) Have a school staff member watch him, not knowing he has a weapon, endangering the staff member.</quote>2 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mystic_belmont 02/05/24 11:39:19 AM #24:	Cocytus posted... 2 So send the kid home, and when he kills himself, who do you think would be held responsible? What if they send the kid home, and he comes back and shoots up the school, who do you think would be held responsible? --- "Freedom was meaningless without ownership and control over one's own body" -Tera Hunter 'Joy My Freedom' [Evil Republican] 3DS FC: 5429-7297-4842 <cite>mystic_belmont posted [p:978666528] in Do you thi... [t:80688561]...</cite> <quote>Cocytus posted... </cite><quote>2</quote>So send the kid home, and when he kills himself, who do you think would be held responsible?What if they send the kid home, and he comes back and shoots up the school, who do you think would be held responsible? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cocytus 02/05/24 11:40:24 AM #25:	mystic_belmont posted... So send the kid home, and when he kills himself, who do you think would be held responsible? What if they send the kid home, and he comes back and shoots up the school, who do you think would be held responsible? If he's suicidal they could have called an ambulance --- You're never ever fully dressed without a smile! <cite>Cocytus posted [p:978666550] in Do you thi... [t:80688561]...</cite> <quote>mystic_belmont posted... </cite><quote>So send the kid home, and when he kills himself, who do you think would be held responsible?What if they send the kid home, and he comes back and shoots up the school, who do you think would be held responsible?</quote>If he's suicidal they could have called an ambulance </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 02/05/24 11:44:20 AM #26:	It's not uncommon for mass shooters to kill family members before moving on to their target. Just telling him to go home wouldn't really solve anything. Mental health services should have been alerted. A kid displaying violent thoughts and talking about demons needs to be taken into custody for their own well-being. --- 'Vinyl is the poor man's art collection'. <cite>ai123 posted [p:978666624] in Do you thi... [t:80688561]...</cite> <quote>It's not uncommon for mass shooters to kill family members before moving on to their target. Just telling him to go home wouldn't really solve anything. Mental health services should have been alerted. A kid displaying violent thoughts and talking about demons needs to be taken into custody for their own well-being. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mystic_belmont 02/05/24 11:44:57 AM #27:	Cocytus posted... If he's suicidal they could have called an ambulance In which he likely would have pulled out his gun and shot everyone. --- "Freedom was meaningless without ownership and control over one's own body" -Tera Hunter 'Joy My Freedom' [Evil Republican] 3DS FC: 5429-7297-4842 <cite>mystic_belmont posted [p:978666637] in Do you thi... [t:80688561]...</cite> <quote>Cocytus posted... </cite><quote>If he's suicidal they could have called an ambulance</quote>In which he likely would have pulled out his gun and shot everyone. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mystic_belmont 02/05/24 11:46:41 AM #28:	The parents should have never bought him a gun. It's very apparent that the parents straight up didn't know how or want to take care of a kid with issues. --- "Freedom was meaningless without ownership and control over one's own body" -Tera Hunter 'Joy My Freedom' [Evil Republican] 3DS FC: 5429-7297-4842 <cite>mystic_belmont posted [p:978666672] in Do you thi... [t:80688561]...</cite> <quote>The parents should have never bought him a gun. It's very apparent that the parents straight up didn't know how or want to take care of a kid with issues. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cocytus 02/05/24 11:49:54 AM #29:	mystic_belmont posted... In which he likely would have pulled out his gun and shot everyone. They didn't know he had a gun though. Could've called an ambulance. --- You're never ever fully dressed without a smile! <cite>Cocytus posted [p:978666744] in Do you thi... [t:80688561]...</cite> <quote>mystic_belmont posted... </cite><quote>In which he likely would have pulled out his gun and shot everyone.</quote>They didn't know he had a gun though. Could've called an ambulance. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mystic_belmont 02/05/24 11:56:39 AM #30:	Cocytus posted... They didn't know he had a gun though. Could've called an ambulance. Yes, the school does play a part in this. I blamed parents that have become very lawsuit abusive that has caused schools to become averse to doing anything with problem students. --- "Freedom was meaningless without ownership and control over one's own body" -Tera Hunter 'Joy My Freedom' [Evil Republican] 3DS FC: 5429-7297-4842 <cite>mystic_belmont posted [p:978666865] in Do you thi... [t:80688561]...</cite> <quote>Cocytus posted... </cite><quote>They didn't know he had a gun though. Could've called an ambulance.</quote>Yes, the school does play a part in this.I blamed parents that have become very lawsuit abusive that has caused schools to become averse to doing anything with problem students. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Westernwolf4 02/05/24 12:19:34 PM #31:	I part company with defense counsel completely on this set of facts. 1.I do think it is a potentially slippery slope to hold parents responsible for what their kids do. No parent, no matter how close the bond with their kids, knows what their kids are doing all the time. BUT. 2.This result was very, very foreseeable. Giving a child with his clear difficulties access to a firearm was always going to end in disaster. This is absolutely a criminal level of negligence, defense counsel making the only argument they can notwithstanding. Both parents should be punished to the full extent of the law. --- An opinion does not turn into a fact simply because the person holding it feels strongly about it. <cite>Westernwolf4 posted [p:978667268] in Do you thi... [t:80688561]...</cite> <quote>I part company with defense counsel completely on this set of facts.1.I do think it is a potentially slippery slope to hold parents responsible for what their kids do. No parent, no matter how close the bond with their kids, knows what their kids are doing all the time. BUT.2.This result was very, very foreseeable. Giving a child with his clear difficulties access to a firearm was always going to end in disaster. This is absolutely a criminal level of negligence, defense counsel making the only argument they can notwithstanding. Both parents should be punished to the full extent of the law. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Homeless_Waifu 02/05/24 12:22:36 PM #32:	Lady deserves the electric chair --- I bought the Taito Egret II Mini just to play puchi carat "GREAT SHOT! RETURN TO BASE IMMEDIATELY! GREAT SHOT!RETURN TO BASE IMMEDIATELY!" GUNSHOTS <cite>Homeless_Waifu posted [p:978667323] in Do you thi... [t:80688561]...</cite> <quote>Lady deserves the electric chair </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 02/06/24 1:22:36 PM #33:	Verdict has been reached --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:978688911] in Do you thi... [t:80688561]...</cite> <quote>Verdict has been reached </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mystic_belmont 02/06/24 1:26:39 PM #34:	CableZL posted... Verdict has been reached That seems fast. --- "Freedom was meaningless without ownership and control over one's own body" -Tera Hunter 'Joy My Freedom' [Evil Republican] 3DS FC: 5429-7297-4842 <cite>mystic_belmont posted [p:978688984] in Do you thi... [t:80688561]...</cite> <quote>CableZL posted... </cite><quote>Verdict has been reached</quote>That seems fast. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mystic_belmont 02/06/24 1:27:10 PM #35:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svHllV0Ggcw --- "Freedom was meaningless without ownership and control over one's own body" -Tera Hunter 'Joy My Freedom' [Evil Republican] 3DS FC: 5429-7297-4842 <cite>mystic_belmont posted [p:978688996] in Do you thi... [t:80688561]...</cite> <quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svHllV0Ggcw </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mystic_belmont 02/06/24 1:34:50 PM #36:	She's in the court room. --- "Freedom was meaningless without ownership and control over one's own body" -Tera Hunter 'Joy My Freedom' [Evil Republican] 3DS FC: 5429-7297-4842 <cite>mystic_belmont posted [p:978689119] in Do you thi... [t:80688561]...</cite> <quote>She's in the court room. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mystic_belmont 02/06/24 1:39:19 PM #37:	Jury is here. --- "Freedom was meaningless without ownership and control over one's own body" -Tera Hunter 'Joy My Freedom' [Evil Republican] 3DS FC: 5429-7297-4842 <cite>mystic_belmont posted [p:978689192] in Do you thi... [t:80688561]...</cite> <quote>Jury is here. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mystic_belmont 02/06/24 1:40:08 PM #39:	Guilty on all counts. --- "Freedom was meaningless without ownership and control over one's own body" -Tera Hunter 'Joy My Freedom' [Evil Republican] 3DS FC: 5429-7297-4842 <cite>mystic_belmont posted [p:978689213] in Do you thi... [t:80688561]...</cite> <quote>Guilty on all counts. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 02/06/24 1:40:08 PM #38:	Count 1: Guilty Count 2: Guilty Count 3: Guilty Count 4: Guilty --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:978689212] in Do you thi... [t:80688561]...</cite> <quote>Count 1: GuiltyCount 2: GuiltyCount 3: GuiltyCount 4: Guilty </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cocytus 02/06/24 1:42:11 PM #40:	Wow --- You're never ever fully dressed without a smile! <cite>Cocytus posted [p:978689271] in Do you thi... [t:80688561]...</cite> <quote>Wow </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lilORANG 02/06/24 1:42:12 PM #41:	mystic_belmont posted... That seems fast. Not when it's open and shut --- Science and Algorithms <cite>lilORANG posted [p:978689272] in Do you thi... [t:80688561]...</cite> <quote>mystic_belmont posted... </cite><quote>That seems fast.</quote>Not when it's open and shut </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mystic_belmont 02/06/24 1:43:21 PM #42:	lilORANG posted... Not when it's open and shut Yeah, you can see her in the court room, the look on her face said it all. Well, enjoy prison. --- "Freedom was meaningless without ownership and control over one's own body" -Tera Hunter 'Joy My Freedom' [Evil Republican] 3DS FC: 5429-7297-4842 <cite>mystic_belmont posted [p:978689293] in Do you thi... [t:80688561]...</cite> <quote>lilORANG posted... </cite><quote>Not when it's open and shut</quote>Yeah, you can see her in the court room, the look on her face said it all.Well, enjoy prison. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PurpleOutsider 02/06/24 1:45:03 PM #43:	ai123 posted... It's not uncommon for mass shooters to kill family members before moving on to their target. Just telling him to go home wouldn't really solve anything. Mental health services should have been alerted. A kid displaying violent thoughts and talking about demons needs to be taken into custody for their own well-being. I saw a video about some youtuber that planned a mass shooting that killed his family first since he didn't want them to deal with the grief of knowing what he did or something like that. Afterwards he backed out of the mass shooting. --- Your knowledge of scientific biological transmogrification is only outmatched by your zest for kung-fu treachery! <cite>PurpleOutsider posted [p:978689323] in Do you thi... [t:80688561]...</cite> <quote>ai123 posted... </cite><quote>It's not uncommon for mass shooters to kill family members before moving on to their target. Just telling him to go home wouldn't really solve anything. Mental health services should have been alerted. A kid displaying violent thoughts and talking about demons needs to be taken into custody for their own well-being.</quote>I saw a video about some youtuber that planned a mass shooting that killed his family first since he didn't want them to deal with the grief of knowing what he did or something like that. Afterwards he backed out of the mass shooting. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZMythos 02/07/24 1:28:11 PM #44:	I think the gun lobby should be next on the stand. Their marketing and political activism has a significant role in every mass shooting. They should face civil and criminal charges for every mass shooting in the US. $10 million fine for every victim, as a start. --- Rainbow Dashing: "it's just star wars" AutumnEspirit: kissu <cite>ZMythos posted [p:978708907] in Do you thi... [t:80688561]...</cite> <quote>I think the gun lobby should be next on the stand. Their marketing and political activism has a significant role in every mass shooting. They should face civil and criminal charges for every mass shooting in the US. $10 million fine for every victim, as a start. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SauI_Goodman 02/07/24 1:30:41 PM #45:	If the info I have is accurate, that she bought a gun for her son who she knew had a mental illness, yes she should. --- Italian, French, German. <cite>SauI_Goodman posted [p:978708944] in Do you thi... [t:80688561]...</cite> <quote>If the info I have is accurate, that she bought a gun for her son who she knew had a mental illness, yes she should. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cocytus 02/07/24 1:41:06 PM #46:	SauI_Goodman posted... If the info I have is accurate, that she bought a gun for her son who she knew had a mental illness, yes she should. They said he doesn't have a mental illness in court. --- You're never ever fully dressed without a smile! <cite>Cocytus posted [p:978709118] in Do you thi... [t:80688561]...</cite> <quote>SauI_Goodman posted... </cite><quote>If the info I have is accurate, that she bought a gun for her son who she knew had a mental illness, yes she should.</quote>They said he doesn't have a mental illness in court. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SauI_Goodman 02/07/24 2:10:03 PM #47:	Cocytus posted... They said he doesn't have a mental illness in court. Who said that? --- Italian, French, German. <cite>SauI_Goodman posted [p:978709626] in Do you thi... [t:80688561]...</cite> <quote>Cocytus posted... </cite><quote>They said he doesn't have a mental illness in court.</quote>Who said that? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cocytus 02/07/24 2:12:07 PM #48:	SauI_Goodman posted... Who said that? I think it was one of the attorneys. No one objected to that. --- You're never ever fully dressed without a smile! <cite>Cocytus posted [p:978709660] in Do you thi... [t:80688561]...</cite> <quote>SauI_Goodman posted... </cite><quote>Who said that?</quote>I think it was one of the attorneys. No one objected to that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SauI_Goodman 02/07/24 2:14:57 PM #49:	Huh. So apparently the mom seems to have contradicted herself by saying he doesnt have a mental illness, but she thought that his depression was due to his dog dying. --- Italian, French, German. <cite>SauI_Goodman posted [p:978709707] in Do you thi... [t:80688561]...</cite> <quote>Huh. So apparently the mom seems to have contradicted herself by saying he doesnt have a mental illness, but she thought that his depression was due to his dog dying. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ANort175 02/07/24 2:16:22 PM #50:	Hopefully they convict the father as well. --- Are we the baddies? <cite>ANort175 posted [p:978709734] in Do you thi... [t:80688561]...</cite> <quote>Hopefully they convict the father as well. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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