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AceMos
02/04/24 2:07:15 AM
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https://twitter.com/TheNerdSpider/status/1753941548608143771

seriously batman being mind controlled is not the problem hell him being killed is not the problem

its entirely the specific incarnation they killed


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BakonBitz
02/04/24 2:19:26 AM
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It's apparently not the real Arkham Batman that was killed anyway, if I am to take what I heard about the game's current ending correctly.

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pazzy
02/04/24 2:21:58 AM
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BakonBitz posted...
It's apparently not the real Arkham Batman that was killed anyway, if I am to take what I heard about the game's current ending correctly.
Then who is it?
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AceMos
02/04/24 2:29:51 AM
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it is arkham batman some ppl are just trying to have desperate hope

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Toonstrack
02/04/24 2:33:54 AM
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AceMos posted...


its entirely the specific incarnation they killed

This incarnation struggled to outsmart Harley, joker and scarecrow and hugo strange but hes suddenly supposed to be mentally stronger than brainiac?


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AceMos
02/04/24 2:35:34 AM
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Toonstrack posted...
This incarnation struggled to outsmart Harley, joker and scarecrow and hugo strange but hes suddenly supposed to be mentally stronger than brainiac?
no im saying dont kill off this incarnation of batman in such a pathetic way in a story not about him


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Toonstrack
02/04/24 2:48:14 AM
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AceMos posted...
no im saying dont kill off this incarnation of batman in such a pathetic way in a story not about him

He'll be back lol. I don't get this outrage tbh I justice did worse things with all the same characters

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dancing_cactuar
02/04/24 2:52:05 AM
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The people saying it's not Arkham Batman are huffing massive copium to try to make this look better. But yeah, I'm expected to believe that these four schmucks beat Batman who has no scruples about killing people when this is the same universe as Assault on Arkham where they lost to Batman that still had his no kill rule. Sorry, I don't buy it.

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Smashingpmkns
02/04/24 2:55:42 AM
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I think the problem is that it's all completely unearned.

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Monferno_AQW
02/04/24 2:57:26 AM
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dancing_cactuar posted...
The people saying it's not Arkham Batman are huffing massive copium to try to make this look better. But yeah, I'm expected to believe that these four schmucks beat Batman who has no scruples about killing people when this is the same universe as Assault on Arkham where they lost to Batman that still had his no kill rule. Sorry, I don't buy it.

Rocksteady has ignored everything connected to Arkham Origins; as such, that'd imply that Assault on Arkham is non-canon, too.

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ultimate_reaver
02/04/24 2:59:12 AM
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The fact that enough people bought this shit to have an argument about it at all is its own problem

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dancing_cactuar
02/04/24 3:07:05 AM
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Monferno_AQW posted...
Rocksteady has ignored everything connected to Arkham Origins
Pretty sure Firefly and Deathstroke in Arkham Knight allude to their encounters with Batman in Origins.

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Monferno_AQW
02/04/24 3:09:20 AM
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dancing_cactuar posted...
Pretty sure Firefly and Deathstroke in Arkham Knight allude to their encounters with Batman in Origins.

And yet there's no reference to Origins in the...museum?...in SS:KTJL, correct? The sections that talk about Deathstroke and Firefly, specifically.

Not to mention King Shark died in Assault on Arkham, yet we have him as one of the main characters in SS.

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dancing_cactuar
02/04/24 3:14:53 AM
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Monferno_AQW posted...
And yet there's no reference to Origins in the...museum?...in SS:KTJL, correct?
Electrocutioner's gloves are in Suicide Squad apparently. Also in Arkham Knight at the precinct.

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Monferno_AQW
02/04/24 3:19:44 AM
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dancing_cactuar posted...
Electrocutioner's gloves are in Suicide Squad apparently. Also in Arkham Knight at the precinct.

Tbh, it's been a few years since I played Knight, so if they are, I don't remember.

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DarthAragorn
02/04/24 3:23:26 AM
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There's definitely references to Origins in Knight

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RISEofCHRISTIAN
02/04/24 3:59:04 AM
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There's also that whole new island with the Gotham Hotel from Origins, in the city backdrop in Arkham Knight too.

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_____Cait
02/04/24 4:06:36 AM
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Like batman or dc has had any dignity recently

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Gurifisu
02/04/24 4:32:45 AM
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Oh my fucking god. This shit is TLOU2 all over again. Get over this stupid para social relationship with Arkham Batman. He's a fictional character for crying out loud. And before crying disrespect to the late VA, the VA agreed to do this too. Geez

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Zikten
02/04/24 5:11:50 AM
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Toonstrack posted...
He'll be back lol.
I doubt it. The game is bombing. The studio will be shut down and there will be no sequel
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RVallant
02/04/24 5:17:22 AM
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Zikten posted...
I doubt it. The game is bombing. The studio will be shut down and there will be no sequel

Trending Very Positive reviews, top sellers and popular on Steam mind.
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Punished_Blinx
02/04/24 6:39:57 AM
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Zikten posted...
I doubt it. The game is bombing. The studio will be shut down and there will be no sequel

It's a live service game. He'll be back within the year.

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Tyranthraxus
02/04/24 6:46:02 AM
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RVallant posted...
Trending Very Positive reviews, top sellers and popular on Steam mind.

The peak concurrent players is half that of avengers

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Raikuro
02/04/24 6:51:52 AM
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Why do people still freak out about comic book character deaths. That shit never sticks.
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AceMos
02/04/24 6:55:05 AM
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Raikuro posted...
Why do people still freak out about comic book character deaths. That shit never sticks.
because this is a game not a comic book

and regardless killing a beloved character for shock value is just bad writing


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Jokeaccountinc
02/04/24 12:24:12 PM
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Hayame_Zero
02/04/24 12:26:11 PM
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It's dumb. There are multiple continuities where Batman has failed. You can't say "he would never lose to Brainiac" when stuff like The Batman Who Laughs exists.

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dancing_cactuar
02/04/24 12:31:29 PM
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Hayame_Zero posted...
You can't say "he would never lose to Brainiac" when stuff like The Batman Who Laughs exists.
The Batman who Laughs is a fucking horrendous character that long overstayed his welcome and is one of the characters that should remain permanently dead in comics.

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Jagr_68
02/04/24 12:32:17 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
I think the problem is that it's all completely unearned.

Or that it's for the most part, a shitty game.

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BearlyWilling
02/04/24 12:34:13 PM
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RVallant posted...
Trending Very Positive reviews, top sellers and popular on Steam mind.

Thats the only place its falling into any of those categories. Refunds are at a high too.

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Southernfatman
02/04/24 12:34:22 PM
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I just went, "well that's a bit dumb" and went on my way. Not sure why there's such a visceral reaction to it. As others have mentioned, there have been plenty of different stories about Batman.

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ViewtifulGrave
02/04/24 1:30:06 PM
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dancing_cactuar posted...
The people saying it's not Arkham Batman are huffing massive copium to try to make this look better. But yeah, I'm expected to believe that these four schmucks beat Batman who has no scruples about killing people when this is the same universe as Assault on Arkham where they lost to Batman that still had his no kill rule. Sorry, I don't buy it.
Harley solod Batman before.

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Gurifisu
02/04/24 1:52:52 PM
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AceMos posted...
because this is a game not a comic book

and regardless killing a beloved character for shock value is just bad writing
The game is called Kill the Justice League lmao. What is shocking about Batman dying? There is nothing shocking about it. It's literally one of the most telegraphed deaths. Especially considering he's not even the first JL member to die

Edit: also lol at anyone being like "this is not realistic". Since when has capeshit been known for being realistic? How is anything from the Arkham series realistic. Putting some billionaire normal ass dude with no super powers(no super speed to dodge bullets, no super strength, no invincibility, etc) against 4 people, one of which is a giant shark, and then having him die when they all shoot at him is probably the most realistic thing they can do

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DarthAragorn
02/04/24 1:55:25 PM
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Gurifisu posted...
The game is called Kill the Justice League lmao. What is shocking about Batman dying? There is nothing shocking about it. It's literally one of the most telegraphed deaths. Especially considering he's not even the first JL member to die
So just make it its own story and not a shitty tacked on sequel to the Arkham series?

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Ratchetrockon
02/04/24 1:56:24 PM
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batman without plot armour is dead meat for sure

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Gurifisu
02/04/24 2:03:59 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
So just make it its own story and not a shitty tacked on sequel to the Arkham series?
Why does it even matter if it's the same Batman or not? Batman is batman. Literally they do this for so many characters in various franchises. God damn this truly is Last of Us 2 all over again.

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BakonBitz
02/04/24 5:04:26 PM
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dancing_cactuar posted...
The people saying it's not Arkham Batman are huffing massive copium to try to make this look better.
I wouldn't be so sure, there are absolutely hints that the "Justice League" you hunt down and have to kill are either clones or elseworld versions.

And considering it's a live service game (ugh) it makes absolute sense to leave stuff like this open for story expansion.

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Toonstrack
02/04/24 6:23:56 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
So just make it its own story and not a shitty tacked on sequel to the Arkham series?

As if that would quell the complaining.

The other guy had it right this is Joel all over again. Its a fictional charactwe not a friend. Rocksteasy didn't kill anyone you know. They killed a fictional character they created and it makes perfect sense for batman to be beaten by brainiac lmao.

Ppl pretending brainiac isn't one of the strongest villains the JL tend to face are hilarious

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Prestoff
02/04/24 6:26:59 PM
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Remember, this is a comic book multiverse story. Which means no death is permanent, they are definitely going to find a way to revive the Arkham series Batman or just find a different Batman from a different multiverse. It was clear they wanted to go down th edgy route, the issue is we already got shows and movies that did this better like the Boys, Invincible, and Peacemaker.

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cjsdowg
02/04/24 6:29:57 PM
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Some people saying this guy is mentally weak ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNFbQuJGIu4&ab_channel=mlxiixlm

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dancing_cactuar
02/04/24 6:34:43 PM
#41:


Prestoff posted...
Remember, this is a comic book multiverse story. Which means no death is permanent, they are definitely going to find a way to revive the Arkham series Batman or just find a different Batman from a different multiverse.
This second bit is true, if only to kill more iterations of Batman to fill up that seasonal content with boss fights instead of creating new bosses. Or go the route like how Brainiac was just a shitty Flash reskin, one of the future Brainiacs will be a giant Fear Gas Batman reskin.


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Toonstrack
02/04/24 9:05:53 PM
#42:


Brainiac is several levels if intellectual orders of magnitude higher than scarecrow or anyone on earth really. Hes a full league level threat superman alone can barely handle himself.

Not a chance Bruce can stop his attacks just willy nilly

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dave_is_slick
02/04/24 9:16:40 PM
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Gurifisu posted...
Oh my fucking god. This shit is TLOU2 all over again. Get over this stupid para social relationship with Arkham Batman. He's a fictional character for crying out loud. And before crying disrespect to the late VA, the VA agreed to do this too. Geez
And your point is..?

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Dungeater
02/04/24 9:22:59 PM
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didnt brainiac mind control batman in superman the animated series

in fact i believe its a setup for justice league brainiac when he cyborg mutates out of lex luthor like a decade later

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FortuneCookie
02/04/24 9:24:49 PM
#46:


Dungeater posted...
didnt brainiac mind control batman in superman the animated series

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Doom_Art
02/04/24 9:24:49 PM
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The parasocial relationship people have with Kevin Conray is stupid as shit

The game can be bad sure but people gotta quit the "THIS IS SO DISRESPECTFUL TO HIM" bullshit lol. He's an actor. This was a job for him. He signed up to do it.

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Gurifisu
02/04/24 9:26:49 PM
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dave_is_slick posted...
And your point is..?
It's not that deep. The game sucks for plenty of other reasons. Hating on it simply because they killed your favorite character is borderline childish.

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FortuneCookie
02/04/24 9:31:56 PM
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Gurifisu posted...
It's not that deep. The game sucks for plenty of other reasons. Hating on it simply because they killed your favorite character is borderline childish.

No, no. I'm calling that the Star Wars Rule. Or the He-Man Rule. Take your pick.

It's absolutely a reason to say fuck this show/game/book/etc.
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Prismsblade
02/04/24 9:47:41 PM
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Fans arent alright killing their favorite characters, period. It doesnt matter that it takes place in an alternate universe. These are still our heroes in every way, shape and form otherwise and Shows that normalize it for comedic purposes like Rick and Morty doesnt change that.

Aside from that Im more disappointed at what a waste this game was. The first AAA to feature the league and its this edge lord garbage Which I am not buying due to the above but that its simply not worth it.

These generic dozen hour games with repetitive gameplay, and overall low thought and effort put into them arent worth $70 freaking dollars. Hell most games arent nowadays.

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Doom_Art
02/04/24 9:51:34 PM
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Prismsblade posted...
Fans arent alright killing their favorite characters, period. It doesnt matter that it takes place in an alternate universe. These are still our heroes in every way, shape and form otherwise
They are fictional characters and people have seriously weird attachment issues with this kind of stuff.

Like when writers make a decision for a story/character that sucks people take it WAAAAY too seriously

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