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SomeLikeItHoth
02/01/24 3:54:38 AM
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I've been watching the Chris Pine movies and they're pretty good & make me want to watch the originals.

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pegusus123456
02/01/24 3:55:42 AM
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Wrath of Khan is one I watched before knowing anything about Star Trek and it was still really good.

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ForsakenHermit
02/01/24 4:03:11 AM
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II-IV, VI, & First Contact are the must watches

Abrams Trek is good for what it is even if a bit more action packed than classic trek.

I enjoyed Nemesis but it's far from a great movie then again I never minded Trek movies being a bit more action packed.

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Bringit
02/01/24 4:06:56 AM
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2 (The Wrath of Khan), 4 (The Voyage Home) and 6 (The Undiscovered Country) are generally considered the best of the originals.

First Contact is typically the unanimous top pick when it comes to the TNG era.

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marthalies
02/01/24 4:08:48 AM
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All of them.

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MrMolinaro
02/01/24 4:11:27 AM
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2, 4, 6, 8, 13
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dioxxys
02/01/24 4:13:16 AM
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The first one was a great movie just not a good Star Trek movie. I loved watching it back in the day in the theater. But I had no Trek knowledge and I didn't know that Star Fleet usually doesn't run around screaming down hallways losing control of their emotions and cursing. I watched the second movie, Wrath of Khan and still had no Star Trek knowledge but I didn't enjoy that one nearly as much as the first. If there is any more after that they had already lost my interest.
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Guns_of_Verdun
02/01/24 4:13:33 AM
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ForsakenHermit posted...
II-IV, VI, & First Contact are the must watches


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dioxxys
02/01/24 4:35:21 AM
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SomeLikeItHoth posted...
I've been watching the Chris Pine movies and they're pretty good & make me want to watch the originals.
Oh you're talking specifically about the originals not the Chris pine ones
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Aressar
02/01/24 2:08:59 PM
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ForsakenHermit posted...
II-IV, VI, & First Contact are the must watches


Bringit posted...
2 (The Wrath of Khan), 4 (The Voyage Home) and 6 (The Undiscovered Country) are generally considered the best of the originals.

First Contact is typically the unanimous top pick when it comes to the TNG era.

These. The Undiscovered Country in particular is my favorite.

MrMolinaro posted...
2, 4, 6, 8, 13

Qualitatively, the latter two are decent and on par with what one would expect from a double-parter episode, though imo they didn't really gave an 'epic' movie experience like the other ones.
Tbh I don't even remember what the third Chris Pine ST movie was called, despite having seen it twice.

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pjnelson
02/01/24 2:14:18 PM
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With the original cast, watch the even ones.

Star Trek: The Motion Picture is just them flying through Windows 95 screensavers for three hours. It's basically something slapped together just to have Star Trek on the big screen.

Star Trek III: The Search for Spock is basically "Whoops, we shouldn't have killed off Spock. Now we need an entire film to undo it."

Star Trek V: The Final Frontier is "How cheap can we churn out a film?" It's not entertaining. It's just there.

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Starks
02/01/24 2:16:18 PM
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People like the one with the whales?

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UnsteadyOwl
02/01/24 2:20:38 PM
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Bringit posted...
2 (The Wrath of Khan), 4 (The Voyage Home) and 6 (The Undiscovered Country) are generally considered the best of the originals.

First Contact is typically the unanimous top pick when it comes to the TNG era.
I feel like it makes sense to add 3 to this. It's not as great as these other films but it's still pretty good and there's kind of an overarching story that runs through Star Trek 2, 3, & 4 while the other movies are more self-contained.

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Westernwolf4
02/01/24 2:26:20 PM
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ForsakenHermit posted...
II-IV, VI, & First Contact are the must watches

Abrams Trek is good for what it is even if a bit more action packed than classic trek.

I enjoyed Nemesis but it's far from a great movie then again I never minded Trek movies being a bit more action packed.

This, mostly. I think III is kind of a must watch as a companion to II, but it does not stand up completely on its own. Plus: Christopher Lloyd as a Klingon!

Generations generally gets a lot of derision, mostly deserved. But it tackled mortality themes you dont usually see in big franchise movies. It isnt a great movie, but it has its moments and I appreciate the audacity.

I am a a huge Trek fan from way back, and I think Motion Picture, Final Frontier, Insurrection and Nemesis are the ones to avoid. They all have their moments-MP is the start of a new era, the ending space battle in Nemesis is really cool etc.-but overall they are crappy movies.

I also think the first Kelvin movie is the only good one, but you already watched them all!


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Westernwolf4
02/01/24 2:28:24 PM
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Starks posted...
People like the one with the whales?

Absolutely! Of all the Trek out there, it is most obviously of its time. But it is also very fun and the message is very Trek.

I saw it in the theater (all but MP, actually.).


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EyeWontBeFooled
02/01/24 2:31:40 PM
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pjnelson posted...
With the original cast, watch the even ones.

Star Trek: The Motion Picture is just them flying through Windows 95 screensavers for three hours. It's basically something slapped together just to have Star Trek on the big screen.

Star Trek III: The Search for Spock is basically "Whoops, we shouldn't have killed off Spock. Now we need an entire film to undo it."

Star Trek V: The Final Frontier is "How cheap can we churn out a film?" It's not entertaining. It's just there.
Personally, I like Star Trek XII: So Very Tired :P

Again with the Klingons...*rubs head*


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UnsteadyOwl
02/01/24 2:43:27 PM
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I will say that I personally like The Motion Picture. I didn't for a long time but I eventually came around to it. The recent HD Director's Edition in particular I think is good.

I can't recommend it to the TC though. It's very different from the J.J. Abrams Trek movies, or even from the other TOS movies. It's a slow, contemplative movie. It came out post Star Wars but has more in common with older science fiction films like 2001. If that sounds appealing to you then you could give it a try but otherwise you should probably avoid it.

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
02/01/24 2:50:49 PM
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Starks posted...
People like the one with the whales?
Yes, it is one of the most Trek movies for the message and it is legit a solid movie. Cant believe someone actually is asking this.

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Vivaldi7
02/01/24 2:55:58 PM
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If you liked the pine movies I doubt you'll enjoy the originals.


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vycebrand2
02/01/24 3:14:32 PM
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pjnelson posted...
With the original cast, watch the even ones.

Star Trek: The Motion Picture is just them flying through Windows 95 screensavers for three hours. It's basically something slapped together just to have Star Trek on the big screen.

Star Trek III: The Search for Spock is basically "Whoops, we shouldn't have killed off Spock. Now we need an entire film to undo it."

Star Trek V: The Final Frontier is "How cheap can we churn out a film?" It's not entertaining. It's just there.
5 has the funniest dialogue though. "What does God need with a starship?" Would be funny if he has one

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Westernwolf4
02/01/24 4:30:15 PM
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UnsteadyOwl posted...
I will say that I personally like The Motion Picture. I didn't for a long time but I eventually came around to it. The recent HD Director's Edition in particular I think is good.

I can't recommend it to the TC though. It's very different from the J.J. Abrams Trek movies, or even from the other TOS movies. It's a slow, contemplative movie. It came out post Star Wars but has more in common with older science fiction films like 2001. If that sounds appealing to you then you could give it a try but otherwise you should probably avoid it.

The MP bored me to tears, but I think this is an absolutely fair assessment of it.

Also: in Shatners book about making the movies, his stories from filming the first one are great.

Edited to say I cant believe the board bleeped out the name of the actor who played Kirk. Dont hurt me mods!

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Starks
02/01/24 4:32:46 PM
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TMP is just a lot of trashed Phase 2 ideas put together in a slow and cerebral tech demo that runs far too long.

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Sir_Will
02/01/24 4:59:25 PM
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2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 13

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Tyranthraxus
02/01/24 5:01:31 PM
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Starks posted...
People like the one with the whales?
It's funny and cheesy. It's ok for what it is.

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garan
02/01/24 5:29:20 PM
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ForsakenHermit posted...
II-IV, VI, & First Contact are the must watches


100% correct. You kinda need to watch 3 in between 2 & 4 though, and it's pretty good.
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Starks
02/01/24 5:45:35 PM
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I like Insurrection.

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ItsNotA2Mer
02/01/24 5:48:01 PM
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Yes.

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Robot2600
02/01/24 5:49:16 PM
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yea it's fine to watch them all. some have plot problems but there is always some good stuff

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mercurydude
02/01/24 5:55:04 PM
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ForsakenHermit posted...
I enjoyed Nemesis but it's far from a great movie then again I never minded Trek movies being a bit more action packed.

The big crime of that movie (apart from copying Wrath of Khan so much) is that they watered down Tom Hardy's performance. He played Shinzon as an actual person and made him believable and they made him scrap that and play him as a cookie cutter menacing villain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl4CDrEP-Ho


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KFHEWUI
02/01/24 6:03:49 PM
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I, II, and VI are must watch.

III & IV are not bad.

V is trash.

Everything after VI is just "meh" at best.

VI is, IMO, the best!

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creativerealms
02/01/24 6:07:46 PM
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I would say watch Star Trek 3 as 2-4 are a loose trilogy. While 4 does stand on its own for the most part skipping three would make some things confusing.

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pegusus123456
02/02/24 12:52:22 AM
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mercurydude posted...
. He played Shinzon as an actual person and made him believable and they made him scrap that and play him as a cookie cutter menacing villain.
Shit, that screen test is way better. Even Stewart is a little better

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ForsakenHermit
02/02/24 1:12:27 AM
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As for my opinions on the other movies
  • TMP-Could have been a good if slow movie had the payoff been worth it and the plot not a do-over of TOS episode
  • V-I don't think Shatner's vision was doomed from the start per se but his ego prevented him from some much needed script doctoring to make this work. As is it's a Razzie winner for a reason and while not my least favorite it is the worst Trek movie.
  • Generations-I like but don't love this movie as far as ideas that could bring the first two TV series together it's not that bad. McDowell is a great if short sighted villain but I think this movie wouldn't be nearly as reviled if it handled one plot point better.
  • Insurrection-Easily my least favorite Trek movie. In some ways it's criminal that the actual Next Gen TV series finale didn't get the cinematic treatment yet this glorified season finale did. I can forgive an ambitious failure a lot more than a meh movie at best that plays it way too safe.

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Tyranthraxus
02/02/24 4:35:40 AM
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ForsakenHermit posted...
Generations

(Spoilers for 6 + Generations)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xhslseNBOU

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Notti
02/02/24 4:45:30 AM
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Only Khan.

TMP is my second favorite, but very different from Khan.


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Vivaldi7
02/02/24 5:14:56 AM
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Can't be repeated often enough, if you dislike TMP then you're not a trekkie in the eye of the show's creator. TMP was his lovechild.

Khan was just the studio pandering to the Star Wars masses, and yes, their considerable wallets.

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
02/02/24 5:28:17 AM
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TMP is what you watch when you have trouble falling asleep. Lame and boring movie but it does wonders if you need help to wind down and get your body/mind into its tine to sleep mindset.

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mercurydude
02/02/24 7:31:57 AM
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Vivaldi7 posted...
Can't be repeated often enough, if you dislike TMP then you're not a trekkie in the eye of the show's creator. TMP was his lovechild.

Khan was just the studio pandering to the Star Wars masses, and yes, their considerable wallets.

While Gene Roddenberry deserves his dues for creating Star Trek, one shouldn't get too reverent of him because he had plenty of bad ideas that needed reining in. I mean, he might also have considered you to not be a Trekkie if you disliked Wesley Crusher (this would be the vast majority of the fandom) because that character was his idea and a way for him to indulge his fantasies by putting a prodigy version of his younger self in the story.

It was the right decision to 86 Roddenberry and go in a different direction for Star Trek 2, because the movies have to appeal to a wider audience than just Trekkies to be successful. The franchise would not have survived another film like TMP.

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ForsakenHermit
02/02/24 7:36:50 AM
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TMP wasn't even Gene's first pitch for a Trek film he wanted to do something similar to V. A pity he didn't as that would have saved us from seeing Shatner's take on it.

In any event I don't consider myself a Trekkie despite being a fan of the franchise.

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CARRRNE_ASADA
02/02/24 7:36:57 AM
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Starks posted...
People like the one with the whales?


saw this so many times as a kid

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PeteyParker
02/02/24 7:45:43 AM
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marthalies posted...
All of them.

Wrath of Khan, Undiscovered Country, and First Contact are the best ones though.

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DnDer
02/02/24 7:57:48 AM
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Bringit posted...
First Contact is typically the unanimous top pick when it comes to the TNG era.

Because it's the most summer action type of movie for TNG and didn't really embody TNG. Hell, it did something to the mythos that arguably neutered their scariest villain.

That said, I still love it. But are you going for the best Trek-Movie or the best Trek movie?

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DnDer
02/02/24 8:00:10 AM
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pjnelson posted...
Star Trek: The Motion Picture is just them flying through Windows 95 screensavers for three hours. It's basically something slapped together just to have Star Trek on the big screen.

It was almost literally the script for Phase II/TNG before TNG became a thing years later.

It was a fantastic Star Trek movie.

It wasn't a great anyone should go see it movie.

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Westernwolf4
02/02/24 11:17:21 AM
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Starks posted...
I like Insurrection.

I respect your opinions here and on 261 so much, but: you dont like Voyage Home but you like Insurrection???!!!!

I have no choice. Reported.


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Payzmaykr
02/03/24 8:52:42 PM
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I think theyre all worth watching. I need to get those in my movie selection. We rode our bikes up to the theater in our neighborhood to see the new ones and that was fun
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