Board 8 > Dead by Daylight Mafia Topic 9: A Quiet Place

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Wallz has been hooked and eliminated!
He was...
LISA GARLAND, SOLO QUEUE Well-intentioned Inhuman Cursed
You are a kindhearted blonde woman dressed in a classic nurse uniform - think Nurse Ratched's uniform in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, only with a red shirt and much smaller. You were once the caretaker of one Alessa Gillespie, a burned girl kept alive in agony and hatred for seven years under the will of her mother, Dahlia, in order to incubate a god. Silent Hill is weird, y'all.

Anyways, you were one of the only people who showed kindness to Alessa during her living prison (even if you did it under blackmail) and were killed at some point before the town became a nightmare being infringed on by an Otherworld - a manifestation of the god growing inside of Alessa. Again, Silent Hill y'all. Alessa's memories of you kept you "alive" in the Otherworldly version of Brookhaven hospital, and in an extremely memorable scene, you realized you were just like one of the other puppet nurses being controlled by a parasite and started bleeding - first from your head, then everywhere else - as the Otherworld began to break down and you staggered after Harry Mason, pleading for his aid.

A bunch of years passed after the events of Silent Hill 1, and Heather Mason - actually Alessa reborn - returned to the town to confront the cult that started this all. At some point during her travels, she remembered her name as Cheryl - and was abducted by the Fog (as was a completely unrelated mental manifestation of a store clerk's need for self-punishment.) Somewhere in the depths of her subconscious, Alessa remembered your kindness and brought you back to life and sapience, merely into a whole other kind of hell.

Well-intentioned: While your nursing duties were partially forced upon you through a combination drug addiction and blackmail, you were once a competent healthcare professional, and genuinely care for your wards. As a night action, you may target a player. If that player was to be killed that night, they will survive. You may not target yourself with this action.
Inhuman: The real you died at least seven years ago. Possibly more. There was a whole telephone conversation about it to Cheryl in the third game. The current you is probably a repressed memory in the shape of the person you once were, but you're just as vulnerable to harm as any other person in the fog.
Cursed: If the creators of the timeline from whence you came are to be believed, your fate, so long as the Otherworld remains, is to be mindlessly tortured by the will of the old god that resided over the darker parts of the town. Given the Entity's Realm seems to have absorbed this Otherworld, it seems a bit on the nose for you to be tormented with the constant fear of death here, too, but at least you have your mind and a vote, here, right?

While he doesn't quite melt into a puddle of blood, wallz was also:
LISA SHERWOOD, SOLO QUEUE Mystic Territorial
You were once a heavyset young girl, presumably from contemporary Louisiana, born in a rural village that kept old traditions alive, and were taught some frightful uses of runes, wards, and hexes. You were warned not to invoke them without first understanding the consequences. One of your friends, when you were still in high school, did not heed your cries of protest when she started sketching slightly-off versions of the hex designs drawn in a personal notebook. One of your teachers died shortly after your friend was invoking these marks, and while you were at his funeral, your friend was mocking him for being fat. The marking on your friend's hand glowed, and she was crushed as the casket slipped from the hands of the undertakers. Your friend's hand reached out, the marking fading to black as it fell still - a rather object lesson on the potency and consequences of abusing the power of old unknowingly.

A few years passed, and while you were walking home alone by the forest near a marsh, you were abducted by what turned out to be a group of cannibals who resided deep in the swamp, hidden from society. The cannibals mostly kept their prisoners alive while carving and eating parts of their bodies to the bone. You survived for a few weeks, starving, half-crazed, and partially flayed, eventually becoming emaciated enough to slip your shackles, breaking your arm in the process. You fled into the marsh as best you were able, but quickly succumbed to exhaustion. With your last breath, you remembered the hate for your captors and the symbols of your youth, and sketched a marking quickly on the ground. The Entity answered and granted you power, and when a search party finally located the cannibal's village, a number of messily devoured bodies and markings were all that remained - and you weren't there with them. The Entity had taken you to its realm in exchange for power; it bolstered your old hexes, and gave you a hunger for the livers of the living.

So basically, you're a voodoo Wendigo now with the only remnant of your humanity being the bun of hair you still wear. Have fun with that.

Mystic: The old ways are still alive today. You were taught them by the elders of your village at a young age, yet were never warned of the dangers they possessed until one of your friends doomed herself with them. Wherever you go now, signs of your marks, hexes, and sigils can be found, warning of your presence.
Territorial: Treading upon the Hag's markings can be a frightening experience - the Hag's traps are one of the only genuinely scary Killer powers remaining in the game. At night, you may target a player to place a mark in the mud at their feet. Any players visiting the marked target will be roleblocked as a phantasm of you leaps from the mark and screams, frightening the visitor away.

Do not post yet.

Alive (7):
1. Ashethan
2. Corrik7 / Corrik
3. htaeD / Death
4. IfGodCouldDie / IGCD
5. BlueCrystalTear / BCT (replaces Lea)
6. Obellisk / Sbell
7. UltimateBrohan / Brohan

Eliminated:
LD1: UltimaterializerX / Ulti (SQ Feline Grace / Inhuman || Inhuman Predator)
KN1: PeaceFrog (SQ Reliant / Neurodivergent || Regenerator Twin Bonded)
?D2: Forceful_Dragon (???)
KN2: PunishedBen (SQ Inquisitive || Smirking Analytical)
LD3: Chaeix / JC (SQ Intuitive Metalhead || Game Master Sadist Metalhead)
KN3: changmas (SQ Team Player || Vengeful Twin Bonded)
LD4: TheSultanofSlam / Sultan (NPC Intuitive / Feline Grace / Eldritch Being)
KN4: EDumey / Dumey (SQ Fearless Investigator || Otherworldly Abomination)
LD5: red13n / Leafeon13n (KYF Well-intentioned Plaguebringer || SWF Agile Eye Candy)
KN5: wallmasterz / Wallz (SQ Well-intentioned Inhuman Cursed || Mystic Territorial)

With 7 alive, it requires 4 votes to condemn a player to death. Day actions are due in 24 hours, at 9:00 pm eastern time Nov. 14th. End of day is currently scheduled for Nov. 15th, 24 hours after that.

You may now post. Day 6 commences and you are now on your even-day role.

That's quite the interesting kill choice. Especially since most people thought he was scum.

This makes Corrik look very, very bad. I don't regret changing my vote last second because it got us scum - I was thinking Red and Corrik were trying to win it for scum there. I still do.

wallz was NEVER getting lynched after I flipped red scum. Literally never. and I'd have murdered you BCT if you attempted to lynch him today.

He also had power which is likely why he was killed over me.

Scum team is obviously Corrik, Death and Ashe. We can probably lynch them in any order.

Scum is either only 3 people big or brohan is scum. Scum coulda won the game with 4 votes on anyone if brohan is afk town.

Igcd and sbell are town though for sure.

I roleblocked brohan last night though. He didn't put the kill in.

FD couldn't be scum but boy would that make more sense how scum didn't win yesterday with a split vote. We had 4 people with votes on them yesterday and scum didn't win.

I'd actually prefer Corrik first so we end the misinformation campaign

It's a nice idea IGCD except if me and Red are scum together and brohan is town, then brohan is dead yesterday and scum won.

Corrik7 posted...

FD couldn't be scum but boy would that make more sense how scum didn't win yesterday with a split vote. We had 4 people with votes on them yesterday and scum didn't win.

Or maybe they couldn't coordinate because someone wasn't there. And Red, one of those people, flipped scum. Plus my vote for you was literally in the last seconds. So the only point is why they didn't gang up on Brohan or Wall. With Brohan, I'd presume there was already one scum on him. The Wall thing means either someone was absent or scum is underpowered.

Corrik7 posted...

I roleblocked brohan last night though. He didn't put the kill in.

Sounds like you know that Brohan is scum. Maybe because you're teammates with him?

Corrik7 posted...

It's a nice idea IGCD except if me and Red are scum together and brohan is town, then brohan is dead yesterday and scum won.

That's a bizarrely specific set of circumstances.

It also sounds like you know too much, Corrik.

BlueCrystalTear posted...

That's a bizarrely specific set of circumstances.

It also sounds like you know too much, Corrik.

Um were you like not there yesterday? Brohan had 1 vote. The lynch had 3 votes.

Igcd said Ashe me red and death are scum.

Well, let's see. If brohan is town. That's 4 votes if me and Red and Ashe vote brohan. Brohan wasn't here. The game was over. Red me and Ashe were all here and voting at the end of the day.

I am thinking it's a 3 man scum team and there is a second indy who has the opposite odds and evens of Sultan for when they win with scum/town.

I like that you're completely ignoring that I was an absolute wild card yesterday

IfGodCouldDie posted...

I like that you're completely ignoring that I was an absolute wild card yesterday

You couldn't beat 4 votes if brohan is town and all the people you said are scum are scum.

It's literally impossible, igcd. Please just add the math up.

Corrik7 posted...

I am thinking it's a 3 man scum team and there is a second indy who has the opposite odds and evens of Sultan for when they win with scum/town.

who is your third scummate? death or bct?

You're right, you and Red wouldn't switch to Brohan because then scum dies regardless so we are probably looking at Corrik, BCT and Brohan as the final scum. Either way Corrik is scum and needs to go first.

Has anyone not flipped really complained about the game? I know there were complaints about the switching thing, did that come from any currently living players, or any complaints from currently living players.

IfGodCouldDie posted...

You're right, you and Red wouldn't switch to Brohan because then scum dies regardless so we are probably looking at Corrik, BCT and Brohan as the final scum. Either way Corrik is scum and needs to go first.

How am I scum? Where are you even getting to that? I said I was voting wallz 24 hours prior.

There had to of not been 4 scum votes available at the end of the day. Either cuz a 3 man scum team and 2 industry or because brohan is scum.

I don't see any other way town didn't lose by vote splitting at that point if it was actually mylo.

If scum has 4 votes there, town lost.

I'm thinking 3 + 1/1. Sultan and another Indy with opposing day win cons.

Red definitely probably tried to vote wallz cuz he knew I was going to and would join him. Not sure regarding bct. Bct fleeing the vote late though makes me think he wasn't on page with Red.

Corrik7 posted...

How am I scum? Where are you even getting to that? I said I was voting wallz 24 hours prior.

Oh shit, you said you were voting Wallz 24 hrs prior, well shit that absolutely means there is no way you can be scum, my bad Corrik. I'll have to remember that if you announce your vote 24 hrs prior it means there is a zero percent chance you can be scum.

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Oh shit, you said you were voting Wallz 24 hrs prior, well shit that absolutely means there is no way you can be scum, my bad Corrik. I'll have to remember that if you announce your vote 24 hrs prior it means there is a zero percent chance you can be scum.

It means I didn't try to opportunely vote at the end to win for scum. I voted exactly who I said I was.

Corrik7 posted...

It means I didn't try to opportunely vote at the end to win for scum. I voted exactly who I said I was.

So fucking what? That literally doesn't mean Jack in this scenario. The facts right now are you were on town with a flipped scum. Brohan was not here nor did he have a vote down so if it is you, Red and Brohan there was nothing you guys could do at EoD anyway.

IfGodCouldDie posted...

So fucking what? That literally doesn't mean Jack in this scenario. The facts right now are you were on town with a flipped scum. Brohan was not here nor did he have a vote down so if it is you, Red and Brohan there was nothing you guys could do at EoD anyway.

You voted with red on Sultan. Are you scum?

Corrik7 posted...

You voted with red on Sultan. Are you scum?

Considering I also helped lynch scum red, which you didn't, I would say it's unlikely.

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Considering I also helped lynch scum red, which you didn't, I would say it's unlikely.

That's not what you said for why I had to be scum. You said cuz I voted with red on someone I said I was voting for way before red ever voted.

If anything, red voted him specifically cuz he knew I was going to vote him also.

I felt wallz was the most scummy person in the game. I laid out why over and over and over again prior. He probably felt wallz was the town with his best chance to get others to vote with him on I guess. Idk.

Corrik7 posted...

That's not what you said for why I had to be scum. You said cuz I voted with red on someone I said I was voting for way before red ever voted.

If anything, red voted him specifically cuz he knew I was going to vote him also.

I felt wallz was the most scummy person in the game. I laid out why over and over and over again prior. He probably felt wallz was the town with his best chance to get others to vote with him on I guess. Idk.

You're right, that's not why I said you're scum. That is my response to why I am not scum. Also you're Sultan example is terrible considering I had been calling Sultan scum from day 1.

IfGodCouldDie posted...

You're right, that's not why I said you're scum. That is my response to why I am not scum. Also you're Sultan example is terrible considering I had been calling Sultan scum from day 1.

I think it's just as bad as your reasoning. Scum clearly imo was not aligned together yesterday because they didn't feel they had the votes to outright win for whatever reason.

4 people had votes yesterday and we thought it was mylo. Insanity.

Corrik7 posted...

It means I didn't try to opportunely vote at the end to win for scum. I voted exactly who I said I was.

and pushed anyone who showed up to vote the same way.

Sbell, it seems like we are going to be a dying breed. We need to work out whether it is actually Corrik, Brohan, Death/Ashe/BCT. Corrik has really convinced me that Brohan is his teammate.

Obellisk posted...

and pushed anyone who showed up to vote the same way.

Would you not try to convince people to vote who you thought was scum if you thought it was mylo

Corrik7 posted...

Would you not try to convince people to vote who you thought was scum if you thought it was mylo

I would also try and convince town to mislynch if I was scum at mylo as I would assume you would. Your arguments are pretty weak.

Thinking back about it, brohan was pretty quick to dismiss any arguments towards Red too.

I'm thinking we have to be looking at Corrik, Brohan, BCT/Ashe at the moment.

Because BCT couldn't tie it up on Walllz because if we got the Red flip it makes him look really bad and he couldn't tie it up on Brohan because it is scum either way, albeit it would have made him look a bit better.

I'm town and I swear it. Corrik definitely giving off scum vibes, but I don't know if Brohan is his teammate or not. He could be trying to make it look that way to ensure his buddies win.

Corrik not making sense with votals. Brohan had two votes at EOD and I'd think at least one was scum. Scum couldn't jump on it. The rest of scum was trying to push a Wall mislynch. And my gut told me Wall was town. So I changed my vote. I wasn't sure who was being specialed, though.

Again, I'm still clinging to Chang saying Death was acting like his scum self.

Also of note: Ethan practically claimed scum tbh, and it occurred to me tonight that we should have lynched him for that stupid claim long ago.

I'd think Corrik, Ethan, and Death is a possibility here. And their mislynch target? Brohan.

Cant believe everyone set the Brohan VS Me thing aside to focus Wallz VS Red and that it still worked in our favor.
That could have been disastrous had Brohan bothered to show up.

Still this confirms that at least Brohan is scum because not only was he not there, Red also refused to vote him even with his own life on the line. And Red was probably the most expendable scum going by his flip.
(For the record I still think 4 scum is likelier than 3 scum, if only because 3 scum just sounds like too little with all the power town has shown and claimed)

Between Corrik complaining about Wallz being townconfirmed, and being one of the Brohan avoiders. I am very confident in him being the 3rd scum.

For a while I wondered if Ashe voting Brohan meant something. But then I realized that if Ashe was scum and did vote Wallz, it would just lead to a tie that whichever townmember that had not yet voted Red could break. So his vote could just be him trying to avoid looking as bad as Corrik does now.

BCT voting Wallz for a while is also interesting. He did it early enough to change his mind. Though I dont know what to make of him voting Corrik who had no votes at all at the time.
I am wary of BCT insisting that I am scum just because Changmas said so. But if Corrik is scum like I believe he is, then his fuming about BCT's redirected block just makes BCT just look townier.

So Brohan>Corrik>Ashe>BCT is my hitlist at the moment.
IGCD and Sbell are pretty much town.
....

Damn, Ben was a prophet

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Has anyone not flipped really complained about the game? I know there were complaints about the switching thing, did that come from any currently living players, or any complaints from currently living players.

I am curious why you asked this, IGCD.
Of the living players I only recall Corrik complaining; about BCT being told he was redirected.

htaeD posted...

I am curious why you asked this, IGCD.
Of the living players I only recall Corrik complaining; about BCT being told he was redirected.

Untrue. I said it was not normal and if that's true it would affect how scum used it.

Scum is probably BCT and Death/Brohan. It's a 3 man scum team. And the last indy could be virtually anyone.

Now that we know red is scum, he could have fed BCT the plan to claim redirected to roleblock wallz. It's not a normal way to handle redirection so I wonder if that was just a mistake on bcts claim. We also know bct roleblocked wallz now and wallz was counterclaimed by bct and he also has a claimed doctor.

We know sbell igcd and Ashe aren't scum at least.

I'm likely alive to use as the easy mislynch.

I suspect that Red and BCT were lingering as scum late. They tried to influence a lynch they thought could get 4 and were furiously trying to get brohan online to vote with them. They knew in either case if Death or brohan was not scum that those votes were likely dead so they probably felt they just needed to get 4 votes to win.

Red and bct vote who I clamored for all day. I join them. Ashe however votes brohan. While igcd sbell and wallz vote Red. Bct bails in a panic trying to separate scum from one another when they realize they are cooked for the day.

Red notably doesn't vote brohan either to tie it up to self preserve.

Us having little investigation and just a roleblocker on each night would fit with having relatively low power in a game where scum was just a 3 man team with 2 indies.

Also we know red is who poisoned FD now so that removed the Ashe lied about his role and was actually who poisoned FD night 1.

And here I was about to ask what your theories even were now that Wallz flipped town.

There is still no direct evidence that Ashe is town, Corrik.
I agreed that Ashe didnt need to claim that he moved to FD if he was in fact a ninja and also didnt poison him (one of which I still believe is true regardless, and the other is proven now)
But WIFOM is still a thing. And numbers are increasingly going against Ashe's favor.
That said, one thing giving me pause is Brohan voting Ashe on day3.

Btw how do you feel about Sbell since you didnt mention him?

htaeD posted...

And here I was about to ask what your theories even were now that Wallz flipped town.

There is still no direct evidence that Ashe is town, Corrik.
I agreed that Ashe didnt need to claim that he moved to FD if he was in fact a ninja and also didnt poison him (one of which I still believe is true regardless, and the other is proven now)
But WIFOM is still a thing. And numbers are increasingly going against Ashe's favor.
That said, one thing giving me pause is Brohan voting Ashe on day3.

Btw how do you feel about Sbell since you didnt mention him?

Sbell and igcd can't be scum. Anyone can be indy.

People keep trying to push Ashe but we now know red went to FD night 1. Edumey didn't see Ashe on FD and he did see the poison.

BCT and you continually pushing Ashe all game is concerning.

Like why would Ashe Wifom going to the poison target night 1 and ninja prior to the scan. Like, if anything, Ashe saying he went to the guy who thought he was poisoned was creating massive heat for himself. What is the purpose to do that? Especially if a 3 man scum team.

I just dont think scum only has 3 members. Though I get why you have to make suggestions like that.

Besides if Ashe is scum, he created heat for himself already by claiming to be killer first and made things even hotter by taking that back.
Regardless of what alignment Ashe has, he's been playing bizarrely. So its more like a nultell to me.

htaeD posted...

I just dont think scum only has 3 members. Though I get why you have to make suggestions like that.

Besides if Ashe is scum, he created heat for himself already by claiming to be killer first and made things even hotter by taking that back.
Regardless of what alignment Ashe has, he's been playing bizarrely. So its more like a nultell to me.

I can see why you have to expand your possible scum/mislynch pool if you are scum.

I can't see a 3 man team with 1 extra kill (poison) and 1 town vig (black box)

even adding 2 (non killing) indys doesn't make sense for the numbers. Besides I dunno if it makes sense for the flavor either. are there two entities? (titties)

how many scum were in that game a few back where we did have 2 indy ( a non killing (me) and a killing one (that other guy whose name started with a P I think?)

That would be the infamous insane psychic game.
Poppy was a serial bomber
Scum did have just 3 members that game

But yeah flavorwise I dont know how a second indy exists, and the kills we have seen dont point at a killing indy existing anyway.
An arsonist maybe, but even my role last game had some mechanic that would eventually make players aware and suspicious.

htaeD posted...

I am curious why you asked this, IGCD.
Of the living players I only recall Corrik complaining; about BCT being told he was redirected.

I'm just trying to consider a smaller scum team and thinking about them letting off their frustrations in other ways that isn't them directly complaining about their numbers.

How did Ashe react to Red claiming Miller?