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Obellisk
11/15/23 8:28:30 AM
#151:


morning folks.
will take some time today to re-review a few things.

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htaeD
11/15/23 12:04:24 PM
#152:


Checked over Red again but I feel like I have already said everything about him that I could.

That red voted JC over Corrik and Sultan over Brohan just maintains my perception of all 3 being scum.

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Corrik7
11/15/23 12:29:24 PM
#153:


htaeD posted...
Checked over Red again but I feel like I have already said everything about him that I could.

That red voted JC over Corrik and Sultan over Brohan just maintains my perception of all 3 being scum.
Very rudimentary analysis there. I am town. JC was town also. And JC was possibly a SK which influenced his vote.

Who did Brohan vote that day?

I wasn't really in any danger of being lynched there tho.

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htaeD
11/15/23 12:38:11 PM
#154:


I will grant you that you never got enough votes to be in danger yes. But Red may have wanted to play it safe regardless.
In the end this is just a small nail anyway, the large coffin is already there.

But to answer your question
Brohan voted Ashe day3, which I have mentioned before is 1 townpoint for Ashe.
Brohan didnt post day4

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BlueCrystalTear
11/15/23 12:43:34 PM
#155:


@UltimateBrohan you need to post

htaeD posted...
Brohan voted Ashe day3, which I have mentioned before is 1 townpoint for Ashe.
So you know Brohan is scum?

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Corrik7
11/15/23 1:08:03 PM
#156:


BlueCrystalTear posted...
@UltimateBrohan you need to post

So you know Brohan is scum?
Here is your options. Brohan is scum. Or there is a 3+ 1/1 setup.

Again, if brohan is town and scum has 4 members, they could have put 4 votes on brohan and won yesterday. Town couldn't stop it.

This is simple math.

I'd like to say death is possible and not brohan cuz he was gone, but it remains the other 3 scum could have joined him on brohan and won after death left if brohan is town. So, I can't even honestly say that's possible anymore. It's possible death and brohan are scum together. But, realistically, unless it's a 3 + 1/1 setup, how can brohan not be scum. Like, someone please even make a single argument of how it's not possible.

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htaeD
11/15/23 1:16:05 PM
#157:


BlueCrystalTear posted...
@UltimateBrohan you need to post
So you know Brohan is scum?


Know it? No.

But I do not believe he can not be scum.

And thats because of the way the last day ended. The fact that the scumteam didnt drop 4 votes on Brohan to hammer him, or the fact that they could not get Wallz lynched. That tells me that this all happened because Brohan is scum and he could not vote in time.

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Obellisk
11/15/23 1:30:11 PM
#158:


Corrik7 posted...
Again, if brohan is town and scum has 4 members, they could have put 4 votes on brohan and won yesterday. Town couldn't stop it.

This is simple math.


assuming all 4 were available at deadline. most votes were placed in the final 90 seconds.

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Obellisk
11/15/23 1:31:43 PM
#159:


I'd quietly like to believe that scum would have forced a replace of their scummate. Brohan has certainly not fit the bill of participation required.

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htaeD
11/15/23 1:48:03 PM
#160:


Obellisk posted...
assuming all 4 were available at deadline. most votes were placed in the final 90 seconds.


I believe everyone who could vote did vote during those final minutes tho.
The only ones not there were me and Brohan.

Though I honestly feel Brohan should be replaced regardless.
The fact that he has not yet been replaced is a nultell to me.
I dont remember who, but I have seen scumplayers deliberately not show up for extended periods of time before.

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Corrik7
11/15/23 2:02:02 PM
#161:


Obellisk posted...
assuming all 4 were available at deadline. most votes were placed in the final 90 seconds.
They could have done it before the final 90 seconds. What's the point of waiting?

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Obellisk
11/15/23 3:26:21 PM
#162:


I've had like no time today unfortunately. but it makes sense I guess to lynch brohan.

red could have saved himself with a vote on brohan. or at least tied it up and given himself a chance. but he didn't.

Ashe and bct also chose off places to vote. staying away from the last minute red push or voting for wallz... not that I'm sure how that ties into this entirely.

I'm just gunna really be pissed if we lynch brohan and he's town and he just fucked us from the get go by not just replacing out.

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Obellisk
11/15/23 3:27:16 PM
#163:


mind you I do not want to be swindled by a scum corrik. I would fucking hate that. I'm already mad at corrik for it and it may not even be true.

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IfGodCouldDie
11/15/23 3:27:41 PM
#164:


Yea Brohan as either alignment doesn't really help any team.

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Obellisk
11/15/23 3:28:47 PM
#165:


igcd, are you going to make me feel better about our decision?

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IfGodCouldDie
11/15/23 3:29:07 PM
#166:


Corrik should be the lynch, he is the only player left as scum that could derail town members from voting scum with his vast amount of propaganda and misinformation.

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IfGodCouldDie
11/15/23 3:29:19 PM
#167:


Obellisk posted...
igcd, are you going to make me feel better about our decision?
Which one?

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Obellisk
11/15/23 3:29:54 PM
#168:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Which one?


whatever the decision may be.

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IfGodCouldDie
11/15/23 3:30:24 PM
#169:


I personally won't, but seeing the flip being scum should.

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Obellisk
11/15/23 3:31:49 PM
#170:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
I personally won't, but seeing the flip being scum should.

I mean I felt really good after reds flip. like I was kind of the world.

I need that high again man, I fucking need it.

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IfGodCouldDie
11/15/23 3:32:46 PM
#171:


Ok so lynch Corrik if both Corrik and Brohan are scum Corriks flip is going to be much more satisfying than Brohans

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IfGodCouldDie
11/15/23 3:33:09 PM
#172:


##Unvote
##Vote: Corrik

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IfGodCouldDie
11/15/23 3:33:48 PM
#173:


##Unvote

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htaeD
11/15/23 3:53:58 PM
#174:


I prefer lynching Brohan. Though I would probably vote Corrik on the next day anyway and they arent that different in the end.
(well I respect Corrik more, but you know what I mean)

Either way Ashe and BCT should show up and say what they want.

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BlueCrystalTear
11/15/23 4:13:51 PM
#175:


Brohan hasn't been replaced because Isquen hasn't found anybody to replace him with. He posted this in the sign up topic and got no bites. I agree that the lack of a replacement doesn't day anything. It's just that there was nobody to do it, nothing more. Brohan is either town or the guy scum wants to bus due to a lack of activity.

I really don't like Corrik this game since he's giving off scum vibes and would prefer going after him. I honestly wonder if town is underpowered on odd nights and more powerful than scum on even nights. Me having a roleblock and scum having a redirector (which is why nobody claimed it) feels like it's meant to be a reversal of fortune.

Also, did Corrik ever claim his exact role? He implied jailer but then was saying he blocked certain people after.

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Corrik7
11/15/23 4:19:58 PM
#176:


Obellisk posted...
mind you I do not want to be swindled by a scum corrik. I would fucking hate that. I'm already mad at corrik for it and it may not even be true.
I'm not fucking scum

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htaeD
11/15/23 4:21:15 PM
#177:


I think he mentioned he was straight up roleblocker at one point
He just didnt correct anyone who called him jailkeeper at first.

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Corrik7
11/15/23 4:27:01 PM
#178:


Can anyone at all produce a scenario where if I am scum and brohan is town and there is 4 scum that town didn't win yesterday?

Like seriously? Can anyone produce a scenario? Anyone. Literally anyone.

Im getting pretty frustrated here. The only way Brohan can be town is if it's 3+1/1. But, even then, Brohan is still likely scum still. Red wouldn't vote him to tie the lynch. Like he wouldn't even self-preservation vote there.

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Corrik7
11/15/23 4:27:31 PM
#179:


That scum didnt win.

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htaeD
11/15/23 4:39:02 PM
#180:


Hey I did say I preferred Brohan because I cannot produce such a scenario either (at least not for a 4man scumteam)

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Corrik7
11/15/23 4:46:37 PM
#181:


htaeD posted...
Hey I did say I preferred Brohan because I cannot produce such a scenario either (at least not for a 4man scumteam)
Can you even do it for a 3 man scum team? Let's make this even less complicated. Let's say it's 3+ 1/1.

Brohan if he is town, if you think me and Red are scum. We both coulda switched to brohan. Bct was literally splintered "parking his vote". You would have to know you are town, Death, if you are actually town. Ashe is literally town via a town scan barring astronomical shit. Thus, me and Red coulda joined the two town, in your eyes, to vote Brohan and lynched him 4 to 3.

This didn't happen. Red didn't because he was scum. I didn't because I thought wallz was truly scum and figured there was going to be a tiebreaker come up unless bct did something fishy to out himself in which I would pounce.

That isn't even counting the fact the other scum didn't also join Red on it. If you know you are town, if you think brohan is town, that means there was 3 scum barring astronomical Ashe nonsense not voting for town brohan there.

Why?

Unless you are scum death, you KNOW there is no scenario brohan isn't scum. I can't see how you can even produce a 3 man scum team scenario where he isn't.


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htaeD
11/15/23 5:02:52 PM
#182:


I dont even care to picture 3man scumteams right now since that widens the scumpool more than a 4man scumteam would.

Like for example IGCD and Sbell become suspects again in that scenario, while they cannot be on a 4man scumteam. Meaning I will only need to worry about those two if a mislynch happens while the game does not end.

I still dont agree that Ashe is 100 % confirmed town. But Brohan also still has to be scum in the scenarios that matter to me.

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Corrik7
11/15/23 5:04:10 PM
#183:


Let's be honest. Death Brohan and BCT are the last scum if its a 4 man team. Death is trying to find any way here to not vote Brohan. But he needs a bite on town being voted here so he can switch to me. BCT is scum also.

If it's 3+1/1 Death is the indy and BCT and Brohan are the scum. Death has to play it cool because he only wins with scum on certain numbered days and he can't rule out having to win with town also.

Death if he is town has to KNOW in either scenario that Brohan is scum here. There is no other logical explanation in his eyes if he is town.

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Obellisk
11/15/23 5:04:18 PM
#184:


htaeD posted...
I dont even care to picture 3man scumteams right now since that widens the scumpool more than a 4man scumteam would.

Like for example IGCD and Sbell become suspects again in that scenario, while they cannot be on a 4man scumteam. Meaning I will only need to worry about those two if a mislynch happens while the game does not end.

I still dont agree that Ashe is 100 % confirmed town. But Brohan also still has to be scum in the scenarios that matter to me.

this post makes me feel better about you death. not that you have been a predominant candidate, but a candidate none the less

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htaeD
11/15/23 5:08:11 PM
#185:


I am just a mathematician at heart.

Corrik I do agree with you. But since I think you are scum, I feel like I should also be worried that I agree with you.

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Corrik7
11/15/23 5:10:53 PM
#186:


So you are the indy

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htaeD
11/15/23 5:11:48 PM
#187:


I wish
Being Indy was fun.

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Obellisk
11/15/23 5:24:27 PM
#188:


Corrik7 posted...
Let's be honest. Death Brohan and BCT are the last scum if its a 4 man team. Death is trying to find any way here to not vote Brohan. But he needs a bite on town being voted here so he can switch to me.

but didn't death finish on brohan yesterday? what's the theater for?

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Corrik7
11/15/23 5:25:09 PM
#189:


Obellisk posted...
but didn't death finish on brohan yesterday? what's the theater for?
He left many hours before the end of day. He also probably didn't know for sure brohan was scum yesterday. Today he has to know.

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Corrik7
11/15/23 5:26:10 PM
#190:


He literally can't put forth a scenario where if he isn't scum he doesn't know brohan is scum today.

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Obellisk
11/15/23 5:26:15 PM
#191:


Corrik7 posted...
He also probably didn't know for sure brohan was scum yesterday. Today he has to know.


Corrik7 posted...
Let's be honest. Death Brohan and BCT are the last scum if its a 4 man team.


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htaeD
11/15/23 5:29:41 PM
#192:


I am as close to knowing as I can be without actually knowing it.

But if nobody else wants to vote Brohan then that doesn't help.

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Corrik7
11/15/23 5:34:08 PM
#193:


You meant if they are scum together yesterday.

That's why I think 3+1/1 is more likely.

If it's a 4 man team, all I can think of is that death was worried about looking good himself and brohan was inactive scum on their team he felt he could afford to lose. It's hard to say exactly. I can't give a definitive answer there. Why red wouldn't switch to brohan there is hard to say really.

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Corrik7
11/15/23 5:36:00 PM
#194:


Outside possibility maybe that death was spose to set an alarm to come back if they thought they could get the town lynch. Not sure on it tbqh

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htaeD
11/15/23 5:37:23 PM
#195:


Brohan may be inactive, but he could have a scumpower they dont want to lose.

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htaeD
11/15/23 5:41:00 PM
#196:


Corrik7 posted...
Outside possibility maybe that death was spose to set an alarm to come back if they thought they could get the town lynch. Not sure on it tbqh


Lol no. Mafia is not that important that I would ruin my precious sleep.
(Have I ever even done that? Maybe once? I dont remember)

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Ashethan
11/15/23 6:21:03 PM
#197:


htaeD posted...
Either way Ashe and BCT should show up and say what they want.

I'm not sure. At the moment I'm leaning Brohan, though. He's certainly scum, and I think we get more information from his lynch. And we also get more town input on what his flip means than if we wait for tomorrow.


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htaeD
11/15/23 6:27:01 PM
#198:


I see.

Well thats everyone who weighed in.

And I have about 30+ minutes left
Not saying that to set a deadline, just telling everyone when I will be gone.

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htaeD
11/15/23 6:48:08 PM
#199:


Right well

At the risk of sounding like a broken record

##Vote: Brohan

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Ashethan
11/15/23 7:27:51 PM
#200:


Can someone tell me what we get from lynching Corrik over Brohan? Both are probably scum at this point. At least Corrik will show up.

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