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Jx1010 11/10/23 10:53:18 AM #1:	Is this an online term or something people say outside in the real world? Is it supposed to be derogatory or insulting? Is it a term only used for men? What kind of lifestyle falls under this category? Does this indicate someone is a bad person? What about married men who are denied sex by their wives? Would this also carry over to an economical standpoint where broke men cant afford a sex worker in areas where it has been legalized? --- Gaming is a weird industry where you can scam the consumers with lies and fake promises, and there will still be fanboys defending it. <cite>Jx1010 posted [p:977139031] in What exact... [t:80616511]...</cite> <quote>Is this an online term or something people say outside in the real world?Is it supposed to be derogatory or insulting?Is it a term only used for men?What kind of lifestyle falls under this category?Does this indicate someone is a bad person?What about married men who are denied sex by their wives?Would this also carry over to an economical standpoint where broke men cant afford a sex worker in areas where it has been legalized? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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s0nicfan 11/10/23 10:54:58 AM #3:	A miserable little pile of hormones. But enough talk! Throws glass of wine on the floor Have at you! --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:977139060] in What exact... [t:80616511]...</cite> <quote>A miserable little pile of hormones.But enough talk! Throws glass of wine on the floorHave at you! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xenogears15 11/10/23 10:58:05 AM #4:	Jx1010 posted... Is this an online term or something people say outside in the real world? Is it supposed to be derogatory or insulting? Is it a term only used for men? What kind of lifestyle falls under this category? Does this indicate someone is a bad person? What about married men who are denied sex by their wives? Would this also carry over to an economical standpoint where broke men cant afford a sex worker in areas where it has been legalized? 1. Yes. 2. Yes and no, depending on context. 3. Incel for men, femcel for women. 4. Being too afraid to seek out romantic relationships due to feeling like the world is working against you, hence the "involuntary" part of it. These people can be shut ins and often cross over with the nice girl/nice guy sterotype. 5. Not inherently, but if they cross over the ven diagram with the nice guy/nice girl category? Yes, most definitely yes. 6. Sounds like they just need some couple's therapy, or need to experience ENM. 7. I do not think so, no. That's just being broke. Being an incel is more focused on a relationship, not having access to sex. --- This rant was brought to you by your local random thinker. I'm as Canadian as Wayne Gretzky crashing a snowmobile into a moose. - JIC X <cite>Xenogears15 posted [p:977139114] in What exact... [t:80616511]...</cite> <quote>Jx1010 posted... </cite><quote>Is this an online term or something people say outside in the real world?Is it supposed to be derogatory or insulting?Is it a term only used for men?What kind of lifestyle falls under this category?Does this indicate someone is a bad person?What about married men who are denied sex by their wives?Would this also carry over to an economical standpoint where broke men cant afford a sex worker in areas where it has been legalized?</quote>1. Yes.2. Yes and no, depending on context.3. Incel for men, femcel for women. 4. Being too afraid to seek out romantic relationships due to feeling like the world is working against you, hence the "involuntary" part of it. These people can be shut ins and often cross over with the nice girl/nice guy sterotype.5. Not inherently, but if they cross over the ven diagram with the nice guy/nice girl category? Yes, most definitely yes.6. Sounds like they just need some couple's therapy, or need to experience ENM. 7. I do not think so, no. That's just being broke. Being an incel is more focused on a relationship, not having access to sex. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 11/10/23 10:59:36 AM #5:	The word is a portmanteau of "involuntary" and "celibate" but that's only its literal definition. In context it refers to someone who wants a sexual relationship, has difficulty finding one, and has negative attitudes toward the opposite sex (99.9% of the time women) as a result. They feel they are being victimized by women shunning them. --- Depression, self-hatred and suicidal tendencies are not "being edgy." Stop dismissing people's problems with a stupid meme. <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:977139147] in What exact... [t:80616511]...</cite> <quote>The word is a portmanteau of "involuntary" and "celibate" but that's only its literal definition. In context it refers to someone who wants a sexual relationship, has difficulty finding one, and has negative attitudes toward the opposite sex (99.9% of the time women) as a result. They feel they are being victimized by women shunning them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VeggetaX 11/10/23 11:00:24 AM #6:	It's me. I'm an incel. I've been such a nice guy all my life I'm owed a 10/10 woman. /S --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys <cite>VeggetaX posted [p:977139162] in What exact... [t:80616511]...</cite> <quote>It's me. I'm an incel. I've been such a nice guy all my life I'm owed a 10/10 woman./S </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 11/10/23 11:02:36 AM #7:	term was invented by a woman, but men have taken it over. It used to just mean a person who can't get laid. Now it is about being angry about that fact, blaming women and being an asshole I heard the lady who created the term is pissed about how its changed <cite>Zikten posted [p:977139194] in What exact... [t:80616511]...</cite> <quote>term was invented by a woman, but men have taken it over. It used to just mean a person who can't get laid. Now it is about being angry about that fact, blaming women and being an assholeI heard the lady who created the term is pissed about how its changed</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ashethan 11/10/23 11:05:02 AM #8:	An incel is a man who hates women, and wonders why they won't date him. --- Board 8 Mafia Archive: ashchive.altervista.org <cite>Ashethan posted [p:977139230] in What exact... [t:80616511]...</cite> <quote>An incel is a man who hates women, and wonders why they won't date him. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 11/10/23 11:05:54 AM #9:	Zikten posted... term was invented by a woman, but men have taken it over. It used to just mean a person who can't get laid. Now it is about being angry about that fact, blaming women and being an asshole I heard the lady who created the term is pissed about how its changed In which case I'd say the "new" definition is much better. Someone who is seeking casual sex and has yet to be successful is just... a person. Someone in that position who has become frustrated, angry, and willing to embrace toxic masculinity and misogyny in response is much more worthy of a label. I'm curious as to why she thought the former even needed a label. --- Depression, self-hatred and suicidal tendencies are not "being edgy." Stop dismissing people's problems with a stupid meme. <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:977139240] in What exact... [t:80616511]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite><quote>term was invented by a woman, but men have taken it over. It used to just mean a person who can't get laid. Now it is about being angry about that fact, blaming women and being an assholeI heard the lady who created the term is pissed about how its changed</quote>In which case I'd say the "new" definition is much better.Someone who is seeking casual sex and has yet to be successful is just... a person.Someone in that position who has become frustrated, angry, and willing to embrace toxic masculinity and misogyny in response is much more worthy of a label.I'm curious as to why she thought the former even needed a label. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AltAccount3 11/10/23 11:12:09 AM #10:	The literal meaning is "involuntarily celibate", but many people incorrectly use it as a synonym for misogynist or sexist. --- VFalcone, one of many <cite>AltAccount3 posted [p:977139348] in What exact... [t:80616511]...</cite> <quote>The literal meaning is "involuntarily celibate", but many people incorrectly use it as a synonym for misogynist or sexist. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
neccis 11/10/23 11:12:15 AM #11:	VeggetaX posted... It's me. I'm an incel. I've been such a nice guy all my life I'm owed a 10/10 woman. /S You've even begged and pleaded them to stop fighting over you. Then they told you to sit down and shut up, so you did? --- PSN: SlCCEN splits open to reveal jam <cite>neccis posted [p:977139351] in What exact... [t:80616511]...</cite> <quote>VeggetaX posted... </cite><quote>It's me. I'm an incel. I've been such a nice guy all my life I'm owed a 10/10 woman./S</quote>You've even begged and pleaded them to stop fighting over you. Then they told you to sit down and shut up, so you did? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jx1010 11/10/23 11:12:23 AM #12:	Ashethan posted... An incel is a man who hates women, and wonders why they won't date him. I have met guys who hate women but still get laid, what would be the term for that? --- Gaming is a weird industry where you can scam the consumers with lies and fake promises, and there will still be fanboys defending it. <cite>Jx1010 posted [p:977139354] in What exact... [t:80616511]...</cite> <quote>Ashethan posted... </cite><quote>An incel is a man who hates women, and wonders why they won't date him.</quote>I have met guys who hate women but still get laid, what would be the term for that? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NPC 11/10/23 11:13:28 AM #13:	Jx1010 posted... I have met guys who hate women but still get laid, what would be the term for that? misogynistic? <cite>NPC posted [p:977139376] in What exact... [t:80616511]...</cite> <quote>Jx1010 posted... </cite><quote>I have met guys who hate women but still get laid, what would be the term for that?</quote>misogynistic?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jx1010 11/10/23 11:14:01 AM #14:	AltAccount3 posted... The literal meaning is "involuntarily celibate", but many people incorrectly use it as a synonym for misogynist or sexist. So its misused. Zikten posted... term was invented by a woman, but men have taken it over. It used to just mean a person who can't get laid. Now it is about being angry about that fact, blaming women and being an asshole I heard the lady who created the term is pissed about how its changed I thought she would be happy it is now widely accepted Not sure why exactly she would be pissed? --- Gaming is a weird industry where you can scam the consumers with lies and fake promises, and there will still be fanboys defending it. <cite>Jx1010 posted [p:977139390] in What exact... [t:80616511]...</cite> <quote>AltAccount3 posted... </cite><quote>The literal meaning is "involuntarily celibate", but many people incorrectly use it as a synonym for misogynist or sexist.</quote>So its misused.Zikten posted... </cite><quote>term was invented by a woman, but men have taken it over. It used to just mean a person who can't get laid. Now it is about being angry about that fact, blaming women and being an assholeI heard the lady who created the term is pissed about how its changed</quote>I thought she would be happy it is now widely accepted Not sure why exactly she would be pissed? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jx1010 11/10/23 11:14:42 AM #15:	NPC posted... misogynistic? Hmmm nah, wouldnt misogynistic cover both the incels and the non-incels? --- Gaming is a weird industry where you can scam the consumers with lies and fake promises, and there will still be fanboys defending it. <cite>Jx1010 posted [p:977139398] in What exact... [t:80616511]...</cite> <quote>NPC posted... </cite><quote>misogynistic?</quote>Hmmm nah, wouldnt misogynistic cover both the incels and the non-incels? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jx1010 11/10/23 11:16:05 AM #16:	Dark_Arbron posted... In which case I'd say the "new" definition is much better. Someone who is seeking casual sex and has yet to be successful is just... a person. Someone in that position who has become frustrated, angry, and willing to embrace toxic masculinity and misogyny in response is much more worthy of a label. I'm curious as to why she thought the former even needed a label. Ok so incels are also toxic masculinity? Dont we have toxic people regardless of gender? --- Gaming is a weird industry where you can scam the consumers with lies and fake promises, and there will still be fanboys defending it. <cite>Jx1010 posted [p:977139413] in What exact... [t:80616511]...</cite> <quote>Dark_Arbron posted... </cite><quote>In which case I'd say the "new" definition is much better.Someone who is seeking casual sex and has yet to be successful is just... a person.Someone in that position who has become frustrated, angry, and willing to embrace toxic masculinity and misogyny in response is much more worthy of a label.I'm curious as to why she thought the former even needed a label.</quote>Ok so incels are also toxic masculinity?Dont we have toxic people regardless of gender? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 11/10/23 11:23:45 AM #17:	At this point is just another version of the term Turbo Virgin insult --- "Big Sweaty Otis" -Titus O'Neil <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:977139556] in What exact... [t:80616511]...</cite> <quote>At this point is just another version of the term Turbo Virgin insult </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LoveLikeJazz 11/10/23 11:28:13 AM #18:	AltAccount3 posted... The literal meaning is "involuntarily celibate", but many people incorrectly use it as a synonym for misogynist or sexist. --- PSN: LoveLikeJazz https://soundcloud.com/pacuta <cite>LoveLikeJazz posted [p:977139650] in What exact... [t:80616511]...</cite> <quote>AltAccount3 posted... </cite><quote>The literal meaning is "involuntarily celibate", but many people incorrectly use it as a synonym for misogynist or sexist.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jx1010 11/10/23 11:38:49 AM #19:	cjsdowg posted... At this point is just another version of the term Turbo Virgin insult Lol turbo? --- Gaming is a weird industry where you can scam the consumers with lies and fake promises, and there will still be fanboys defending it. <cite>Jx1010 posted [p:977139861] in What exact... [t:80616511]...</cite> <quote>cjsdowg posted... </cite><quote>At this point is just another version of the term Turbo Virgin insult</quote>Lol turbo? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EmbraceOfDeath 11/10/23 11:40:46 AM #20:	It means someone I don't like. --- No more shall man have wings to bear him to paradise. Henceforth, he shall walk. <cite>EmbraceOfDeath posted [p:977139897] in What exact... [t:80616511]...</cite> <quote>It means someone I don't like. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 11/10/23 11:40:55 AM #21:	Jx1010 posted... Lol turbo? https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/turbo-virgin Turbo Virgin refers to a reaction image featuring the character from the Japanese anime comedy series My Girlfriend is a Gal (Japanese translation: ), also known as Hajimete no Gal. In the image, the character Junichi Hashiba says, "You might have tricked a normal virgin, but I'm a turbo virgin with zero confidence," a misquote from the series. Online, people use the image to ironically express feelings of sexual or romantic inadequacy. The actual quote: "A normal virgin would have fall into your trap, but I'm a virgin with no self-confidence at all" --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:977139898] in What exact... [t:80616511]...</cite> <quote>Jx1010 posted... </cite><quote>Lol turbo?</quote>https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/turbo-virgin<quote>Turbo Virgin refers to a reaction image featuring the character from the Japanese anime comedy series My Girlfriend is a Gal (Japanese translation: ), also known as Hajimete no Gal. In the image, the character Junichi Hashiba says, "You might have tricked a normal virgin, but I'm a turbo virgin with zero confidence," a misquote from the series. Online, people use the image to ironically express feelings of sexual or romantic inadequacy.</quote>The actual quote:<quote>"A normal virgin would have fall into your trap, but I'm a virgin with no self-confidence at all"</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ellis123 11/10/23 11:42:50 AM #22:	Jx1010 posted... So its misused. No, appropriated. At once point in time it wasn't for misogynists, but then the misogynists kicked everyone out. --- "A shouted order to do something of dubious morality with an unpredictable outcome? Thweeet!" My FC is in my profile. <cite>ellis123 posted [p:977139937] in What exact... [t:80616511]...</cite> <quote>Jx1010 posted... </cite><quote>So its misused.</quote>No, appropriated. At once point in time it wasn't for misogynists, but then the misogynists kicked everyone out. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Savoots 11/10/23 11:43:32 AM #23:	It's basically become a pejorative for "someone I don't like". Like, I've literally seen happily married men be called an incel. --- The grass beckons.... <cite>Savoots posted [p:977139951] in What exact... [t:80616511]...</cite> <quote>It's basically become a pejorative for "someone I don't like".Like, I've literally seen happily married men be called an incel. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
loafy013 11/10/23 11:43:37 AM #24:	AltAccount3 posted... The literal meaning is "involuntarily celibate", but many people incorrectly use it as a synonym for misogynist or sexist. Nah, regular people who don't have sex don't call themselves incels. Only the misogynist/sexist people self-identify as incels. --- The ball is round, the game lasts 90 minutes. That's fact. Everything else, is theory. <cite>loafy013 posted [p:977139952] in What exact... [t:80616511]...</cite> <quote>AltAccount3 posted... </cite><quote>The literal meaning is "involuntarily celibate", but many people incorrectly use it as a synonym for misogynist or sexist.</quote>Nah, regular people who don't have sex don't call themselves incels. Only the misogynist/sexist people self-identify as incels. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 11/10/23 11:44:35 AM #25:	Savoots posted... It's basically become a pejorative for "someone I don't like". Like, I've literally seen happily married men be called an incel. Highly doubt this. Also, go the fuck away. --- Depression, self-hatred and suicidal tendencies are not "being edgy." Stop dismissing people's problems with a stupid meme. <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:977139971] in What exact... [t:80616511]...</cite> <quote>Savoots posted... </cite><quote>It's basically become a pejorative for "someone I don't like".Like, I've literally seen happily married men be called an incel.</quote>Highly doubt this.Also, go the fuck away. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 11/10/23 11:45:21 AM #26:	A misogynist who blames 'modern feminism' for the fact that they aren't fighting off supermodels with the shitty end of the stick. I wouldn't use the term for someone who was just socially awkward and unsuccessful in dating. If they didn't have the shitty attitude and warped outlook on life. --- Nothing works/Everything's expensive/And opaque/And privatised/My shoe organising thing arrived/Thank God <cite>ai123 posted [p:977139989] in What exact... [t:80616511]...</cite> <quote>A misogynist who blames 'modern feminism' for the fact that they aren't fighting off supermodels with the shitty end of the stick.I wouldn't use the term for someone who was just socially awkward and unsuccessful in dating. If they didn't have the shitty attitude and warped outlook on life. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jx1010 11/10/23 11:46:43 AM #27:	s0nicfan posted... https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/turbo-virgin The actual quote: Damn u guys are a wealth of knowledge wow ! Nice! --- Gaming is a weird industry where you can scam the consumers with lies and fake promises, and there will still be fanboys defending it. <cite>Jx1010 posted [p:977140013] in What exact... [t:80616511]...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted... </cite><quote>https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/turbo-virginThe actual quote:</quote>Damn u guys are a wealth of knowledge wow ! Nice! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Savoots 11/10/23 11:48:28 AM #28:	Dark_Arbron posted... Highly doubt this. Also, go the fuck away. No. --- The grass beckons.... <cite>Savoots posted [p:977140041] in What exact... [t:80616511]...</cite> <quote>Dark_Arbron posted... </cite><quote>Highly doubt this.Also, go the fuck away.</quote>No. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jx1010 11/10/23 11:48:41 AM #29:	ai123 posted... A misogynist who blames 'modern feminism' for the fact that they aren't fighting off supermodels with the shitty end of the stick. I wouldn't use the term for someone who was just socially awkward and unsuccessful in dating. If they didn't have the shitty attitude and warped outlook on life. So it doesnt apply to broke men, psychologically scarred men, bald men, short men? --- Gaming is a weird industry where you can scam the consumers with lies and fake promises, and there will still be fanboys defending it. <cite>Jx1010 posted [p:977140043] in What exact... [t:80616511]...</cite> <quote>ai123 posted... </cite><quote>A misogynist who blames 'modern feminism' for the fact that they aren't fighting off supermodels with the shitty end of the stick.I wouldn't use the term for someone who was just socially awkward and unsuccessful in dating. If they didn't have the shitty attitude and warped outlook on life.</quote>So it doesnt apply to broke men, psychologically scarred men, bald men, short men? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 11/10/23 11:49:09 AM #30:	ai123 posted... A misogynist who blames 'modern feminism' for the fact that they aren't fighting off supermodels with the shitty end of the stick. I wouldn't use the term for someone who was just socially awkward and unsuccessful in dating. If they didn't have the shitty attitude and warped outlook on life. This. It isn't just someone having little success. It's someone who takes the wrong message from it. --- Depression, self-hatred and suicidal tendencies are not "being edgy." Stop dismissing people's problems with a stupid meme. <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:977140048] in What exact... [t:80616511]...</cite> <quote>ai123 posted... </cite><quote>A misogynist who blames 'modern feminism' for the fact that they aren't fighting off supermodels with the shitty end of the stick.I wouldn't use the term for someone who was just socially awkward and unsuccessful in dating. If they didn't have the shitty attitude and warped outlook on life.</quote>This. It isn't just someone having little success. It's someone who takes the wrong message from it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Savoots 11/10/23 11:53:03 AM #33:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] I disagree. I've seen dudes who are like the ones you describe, but I've also seen it be used incorrectly as a pejorative for "someone I don't like". Both can be true you know. Life is nuanced like that. --- The grass beckons.... <cite>Savoots posted [p:977140115] in What exact... [t:80616511]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> I disagree.I've seen dudes who are like the ones you describe, but I've also seen it be used incorrectly as a pejorative for "someone I don't like".Both can be true you know. Life is nuanced like that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 11/10/23 11:53:19 AM #34:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Almost like it's used to refer to... the people its definition refers to. Not this "anyone I don't like" conservative strawman nonsense. And incel isn't the only term they've tried to warp that way. They've done it with racism too. "You leftists call anything you don't like racist!" (i.e "racism is no longer tolerated and being called out more often - and we don't like it.") --- Depression, self-hatred and suicidal tendencies are not "being edgy." Stop dismissing people's problems with a stupid meme. <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:977140122] in What exact... [t:80616511]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Almost like it's used to refer to... the people its definition refers to. Not this "anyone I don't like" conservative strawman nonsense.And incel isn't the only term they've tried to warp that way. They've done it with racism too. "You leftists call anything you don't like racist!" (i.e "racism is no longer tolerated and being called out more often - and we don't like it.") </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 11/10/23 11:53:41 AM #35:	Savoots posted... I've seen dudes who are like the ones you describe, but I've also seen it be used incorrectly as a pejorative for "someone I don't like". Feel free to provide context. --- Depression, self-hatred and suicidal tendencies are not "being edgy." Stop dismissing people's problems with a stupid meme. <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:977140129] in What exact... [t:80616511]...</cite> <quote>Savoots posted... </cite><quote>I've seen dudes who are like the ones you describe, but I've also seen it be used incorrectly as a pejorative for "someone I don't like".</quote>Feel free to provide context. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gamespoht 11/10/23 11:54:25 AM #37:	I've seen married/taken men get called incels for having the shittiest "alpha male" takes about women and maybe minorities It's kinda moved way beyond its original meaning like woke and boomer has --- ''No copyright law in the universe is going to stop me''-Sonic The Hedgehog I am Gamespot's Unofficial Mascot....Love Me. <cite>Gamespoht posted [p:977140142] in What exact... [t:80616511]...</cite> <quote>I've seen married/taken men get called incels for having the shittiest "alpha male" takes about women and maybe minoritiesIt's kinda moved way beyond its original meaning like woke and boomer has </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 11/10/23 11:55:25 AM #38:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] They at least have enough self-awareness to recognize when a label becomes bad PR. Hence why the alt-right tried to distance themselves from that term - despite coining it to begin with. --- Depression, self-hatred and suicidal tendencies are not "being edgy." Stop dismissing people's problems with a stupid meme. <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:977140164] in What exact... [t:80616511]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> They at least have enough self-awareness to recognize when a label becomes bad PR. Hence why the alt-right tried to distance themselves from that term - despite coining it to begin with. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ai123 11/10/23 11:56:37 AM #40:	Jx1010 posted... So it doesnt apply to broke men, psychologically scarred men, bald men, short men? Not unless they embrace the misogyny. Incel is a mindset, an attitude, a wallowing in self-pity while externalizing blame. Ever seen a bald man, a psychologically scarred man, or a short man with a wife/girlfriend? Of course you have. The last time you left the house, probably. --- Nothing works/Everything's expensive/And opaque/And privatised/My shoe organising thing arrived/Thank God <cite>ai123 posted [p:977140190] in What exact... [t:80616511]...</cite> <quote>Jx1010 posted... </cite><quote>So it doesnt apply to broke men, psychologically scarred men, bald men, short men?</quote>Not unless they embrace the misogyny. Incel is a mindset, an attitude, a wallowing in self-pity while externalizing blame.Ever seen a bald man, a psychologically scarred man, or a short man with a wife/girlfriend? Of course you have. The last time you left the house, probably. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 11/10/23 11:58:29 AM #41:	Dark_Arbron posted... They at least have enough self-awareness to recognize when a label becomes bad PR. Hence why the alt-right tried to distance themselves from that term - despite coining it to begin with. The term was coined by a woman as a kind of self-deprecating comment/joke on her romantic life at college. --- Nothing works/Everything's expensive/And opaque/And privatised/My shoe organising thing arrived/Thank God <cite>ai123 posted [p:977140234] in What exact... [t:80616511]...</cite> <quote>Dark_Arbron posted... </cite><quote>They at least have enough self-awareness to recognize when a label becomes bad PR. Hence why the alt-right tried to distance themselves from that term - despite coining it to begin with.</quote>The term was coined by a woman as a kind of self-deprecating comment/joke on her romantic life at college. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Block_that_Kick 11/10/23 11:58:39 AM #42:	Zikten posted... term was invented by a woman, but men have taken it over. It used to just mean a person who can't get laid. Now it is about being angry about that fact, blaming women and being an asshole Yeah, its no longer a literal definition because a good number of incels could get laid if they wanted to. But they dont want a 6 or a 7. They want a virgin goddess who will basically be the replacement for their mother while succumbing without complaint to every sexual desire they have. They dont have the first clue of what a healthy relationship looks like. --- The truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off. <cite>Block_that_Kick posted [p:977140236] in What exact... [t:80616511]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite><quote>term was invented by a woman, but men have taken it over. It used to just mean a person who can't get laid. Now it is about being angry about that fact, blaming women and being an asshole</quote>Yeah, its no longer a literal definition because a good number of incels could get laid if they wanted to. But they dont want a 6 or a 7. They want a virgin goddess who will basically be the replacement for their mother while succumbing without complaint to every sexual desire they have. They dont have the first clue of what a healthy relationship looks like. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 11/10/23 11:59:01 AM #43:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] I remember a Trump-supporting colleague of mine in 2019 who brought up Milo Yiannopoulos. I said "oh, the alt-right guy?" His response was, "eh... not sure of 'not bowing down to Islam' makes him alt-right." There's a weird paradox there. Like, the guy clearly recognizes alt-right as a bad thing otherwise he wouldn't be trying to downplay it. But obviously not so much that he turns away from the ideology. Like it's about the negative optics rather than any sense of actual decency. --- Depression, self-hatred and suicidal tendencies are not "being edgy." Stop dismissing people's problems with a stupid meme. <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:977140245] in What exact... [t:80616511]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> I remember a Trump-supporting colleague of mine in 2019 who brought up Milo Yiannopoulos. I said "oh, the alt-right guy?" His response was, "eh... not sure of 'not bowing down to Islam' makes him alt-right."There's a weird paradox there. Like, the guy clearly recognizes alt-right as a bad thing otherwise he wouldn't be trying to downplay it. But obviously not so much that he turns away from the ideology. Like it's about the negative optics rather than any sense of actual decency. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ellis123 11/10/23 11:59:13 AM #44:	Dark_Arbron posted... They at least have enough self-awareness to recognize when a label becomes bad PR. Hence why the alt-right tried to distance themselves from that term - despite coining it to begin with. Naw, the alt-right has never created a single thing. Originally "incel" was actually a legit term that one woman made, it's just that the alt-right and "terminally virgin" go hand-in-hand pretty hard. To some extent that's largely how all right-winger movements are. They use a leftist/liberal term and run it into the ground until anyone using it for its initial meaning are left with calling themselves something else. --- "A shouted order to do something of dubious morality with an unpredictable outcome? Thweeet!" My FC is in my profile. <cite>ellis123 posted [p:977140253] in What exact... [t:80616511]...</cite> <quote>Dark_Arbron posted... </cite><quote>They at least have enough self-awareness to recognize when a label becomes bad PR. Hence why the alt-right tried to distance themselves from that term - despite coining it to begin with.</quote>Naw, the alt-right has never created a single thing. Originally "incel" was actually a legit term that one woman made, it's just that the alt-right and "terminally virgin" go hand-in-hand pretty hard.To some extent that's largely how all right-winger movements are. They use a leftist/liberal term and run it into the ground until anyone using it for its initial meaning are left with calling themselves something else. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AltAccount3 11/10/23 11:59:59 AM #45:	loafy013 posted... Nah, regular people who don't have sex don't call themselves incels. Only the misogynist/sexist people self-identify as incels. It depends. If you simply choose to not have sex or don't look to have sex any time soon, you'd be a volcel (voluntarily celibate). If you're depressed, lonely, and socially awkward to the point that you can't get sex even when you want it, you'd be an incel. If you're an angry misogynist who can't get sex because you're an angry misogynist, you'd be an incel. Millions upon millions of misogynist asshole men are married to equally misogynist asshole women and smash all the time, making them not incels by definition. In the end, inceldom is simply when you can't get sex. --- VFalcone, one of many <cite>AltAccount3 posted [p:977140269] in What exact... [t:80616511]...</cite> <quote>loafy013 posted... </cite><quote>Nah, regular people who don't have sex don't call themselves incels. Only the misogynist/sexist people self-identify as incels.</quote>It depends. If you simply choose to not have sex or don't look to have sex any time soon, you'd be a volcel (voluntarily celibate). If you're depressed, lonely, and socially awkward to the point that you can't get sex even when you want it, you'd be an incel. If you're an angry misogynist who can't get sex because you're an angry misogynist, you'd be an incel. Millions upon millions of misogynist asshole men are married to equally misogynist asshole women and smash all the time, making them not incels by definition. In the end, inceldom is simply when you can't get sex. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 11/10/23 12:00:01 PM #46:	ai123 posted... The term was coined by a woman as a kind of self-deprecating comment/joke on her romantic life at college. Are you referring to incel? I was specifically talking about alt-right, which to my knowledge was coined by the very group it describes. --- Depression, self-hatred and suicidal tendencies are not "being edgy." Stop dismissing people's problems with a stupid meme. <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:977140271] in What exact... [t:80616511]...</cite> <quote>ai123 posted... </cite><quote>The term was coined by a woman as a kind of self-deprecating comment/joke on her romantic life at college.</quote>Are you referring to incel? I was specifically talking about alt-right, which to my knowledge was coined by the very group it describes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dark_Arbron 11/10/23 12:01:30 PM #48:	AltAccount3 posted... If you're depressed, lonely, and socially awkward to the point that you can't get sex even when you want it, you'd be an incel. If you're an angry misogynist who can't get sex because you're an angry misogynist, you'd be an incel. Which is why the same term shouldn't be used to describe both. I have plenty of factors that would preclude me from being appealing to women. At the same time, I'm not even attempting to put myself out there. And at no point do I think my shortcomings are women's fault. What does that make me? Incel or "incel?" --- Depression, self-hatred and suicidal tendencies are not "being edgy." Stop dismissing people's problems with a stupid meme. <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:977140294] in What exact... [t:80616511]...</cite> <quote>AltAccount3 posted... </cite><quote>If you're depressed, lonely, and socially awkward to the point that you can't get sex even when you want it, you'd be an incel. If you're an angry misogynist who can't get sex because you're an angry misogynist, you'd be an incel.</quote>Which is why the same term shouldn't be used to describe both.I have plenty of factors that would preclude me from being appealing to women. At the same time, I'm not even attempting to put myself out there. And at no point do I think my shortcomings are women's fault. What does that make me? Incel or "incel?" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 11/10/23 12:02:02 PM #49:	Dark_Arbron posted... Are you referring to incel? I was specifically talking about alt-right, which to my knowledge was coined by the very group it describes. Yes. Apologies for my misunderstanding. --- Nothing works/Everything's expensive/And opaque/And privatised/My shoe organising thing arrived/Thank God <cite>ai123 posted [p:977140301] in What exact... [t:80616511]...</cite> <quote>Dark_Arbron posted... </cite><quote>Are you referring to incel? I was specifically talking about alt-right, which to my knowledge was coined by the very group it describes.</quote>Yes. Apologies for my misunderstanding. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 11/10/23 12:04:18 PM #50:	ai123 posted... Yes. Apologies for my misunderstanding. All good! --- Depression, self-hatred and suicidal tendencies are not "being edgy." Stop dismissing people's problems with a stupid meme. <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:977140355] in What exact... [t:80616511]...</cite> <quote>ai123 posted... </cite><quote>Yes. Apologies for my misunderstanding.</quote>All good! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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