Board 8 > Most Evil Fictional Character: Bondrewd vs. Freddy Krueger

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Welcome to the 2023 edition of Most Evil Fictional Character, a single-elimination tournament to determine the most evil fictional character of all time!

Here's the bracket:

https://www.bracketmaker.com/tmenu.cfm?tid=477621&tclass=

And here's the discussion topic:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80568652

And here are the rules:

-First and foremost, YOU MUST BOLD YOUR VOTE FOR IT TO COUNT. The reason for this is that these topics encourage a lot of discussion and debate, and it helps me to distinguish a vote from simple discussion if all votes are bolded. So, I state again, ALL VOTES MUST BE BOLDED FOR THEM TO COUNT. I reserve the right to be lenient in early topics if people just aren't getting it, but for the most part, IF YOUR VOTE ISN'T BOLDED, IT WON'T COUNT.

-You must vote for which of the two characters you honestly believe to be the more evil of the two. You can determine this via any method you like, use your own morals and judgement, read all the arguments made to determine your choice, or however you choose to make your pick, but you must only vote for the one you truly believe is the most evil. This isn't a death battle, or a popularity contest. You're voting ONLY for the most evil character out of the two choices presented.

-While on that subject, remember that because this isn't a death battle or a fighting tournament, do your absolute best to consider the two characters as if their power levels were equal (either the weaker character brought up to the level of the strongest, or vice versa, or both if you want to consider both possibilities). Therefore, just because, for example, one of the characters blew up a planet and the other one merely kicked a puppy, doesn't necessarily mean the planet killer is more evil than the puppy kicker. Consider the characters as if they have the exact same capabilities and what they might do in that scenario.

-You can make any arguments, debates, etc. you want in this topic. Discussion is STRONGLY encouraged, a fun debate about which of the two characters is most evil is exactly what these topics are for. Just don't make it personal, no insults or flaming, keep things civil even if you disagree. Also, no vote rallying, if you want to encourage people to vote for your character you need to at least make some semblance of an argument as to why, even if it's just "Character X did (really dastardly thing), I can't believe no one's voting for them!"

-Voting will continue for exactly 24 hours after the post is made. If there's a tie, there will be a new 24 hour topic. This will continue indefinitely until a winner is determined.

-YOU MUST BOLD YOUR VOTE FOR IT TO COUNT.

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The following write-ups will contain untagged SPOILERS for Made In Abyss and the Nightmare On Elm Street series.

BONDREWD

Bondrewd is the primary antagonist of Made In Abyss.

Bondrewd is a man who values knowledge above else, even in the wake of whatever moral issues that may occur from his actions. He is willing to sacrifice anyone and everyone in the pursuit of it. At some point before the manga began, Bondrewd was convicted of an unspecified crime, with a bounty placed on his head. To escape his fate, he became a delver of the abyss, and funded his research with the sale of illegal substances. He had no sense of ethics, going so far as to use small children for his research. He moved them around various areas of the abyss as a way to test the various effects of the Curse on the human body. At some point in the series, Nanachi and Mitty were included in these experiments. While Nanachi was blessed with a body similar to a rabbit or a viscacha, Mitty's body was broken down, and reduced to an abomination without the ability to move, speak, or presumably think. Eventually, his research led him to develop the cartridge system, a method of mitigating the effects of the Curse. In this process, people (in this case, presumably children) are reduced to their most bare essential organs, and stuffed into a small box, about the size of the average cigar box. Keeping them alive allows Bondrewd to transfer the effects of the curse into the still-alive cartridge, rather than suffering the effects himself. Eventually, this research comes to a head when he reduces his own daughter, Prushka, to a cartridge, and utilizes her in the fight against Regu.

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FREDDY KRUEGER

Freddy Krueger is the primary antagonist of the Nightmare On Elm Street films.

In A Nightmare on Elm Street, Freddy is introduced as a serial child killer from the fictitious town of Springwood, Ohio, who kills his victims with a bladed leather glove he crafted in a boiler room where he used to take his 20 victims. He is captured, but is set free on a technicality when it is discovered that the search warrant was not signed in the right place. He is hunted down by a mob made up of the town's vengeful parents and cornered in the boiler room. The mob douses the building with gasoline and sets it on fire by throwing Molotov cocktails, burning him alive. While his body dies, his spirit lives on within the dreams of a group of teenagers and pre-adolescents living on Elm Street, whom he preys on by entering their dreams and killing them, fueled by the town's memories and fear of him and empowered by a trio of 'dream demons' to be their willing instrument of evil. Throughout the series, Freddy's potential victims often experience dreams of young children, jumping rope and chanting a rhyme to the tune of "One, Two, Buckle My Shoe" with the lyrics changed to "One, Two, Freddy's coming for you", often as an omen to Freddy's presence or a precursor to his attacks. The children are often heavily implied to be the spirits of his past victims prior to his death. Freddy is psychopathic, twisted, and driven by the desire to kill. An insatiable sadist, Freddy takes enjoyment in terrifying his victims before killing them and will often spend weeks twisting the dreams of his quarry before moving in for the fatal blow. For a professional killer, he showcases very little composure; he is prone to fits of emotion such as joy and rage. Unresponsive to reason and deaf to pleas for mercy, Freddy is a nightmare made flesh, just what he's always wanted. Unlike many other slasher villains, Freddy Krueger kills his victims out of sheer enjoyment and nothing less. He doesn't kill because of external or personal reasons, he kills because he enjoys every minute of it. He embraces evil by his most common form and can look like whatever he wants. He doesn't have to look like a deformed, burned corpse, as he does that simply because it terrifies people and he loves to make sure they are filled with fear before they die.

Never watched MiA but like, it's gotta be Bondrewd right?

Freddy Krueger

Ultimately, what Bondrewd does is never done out of or for the sake of malice and he cares to remember the name of each person he has sacrificed in his efforts. Freddy is just a shithead who revels in tormenting people.

Freddy Kruger

Bondrewd literally destroyed his own humanity, but he is still not malicious nor does he have evil plans or schemes going on.
Though I guess this could depend on whether you put more worth in a characters personality or their actions. Because Bondrewds done a disgusting lot of vile stuff and there is no being subjective about it.

freddy kreuger. i think doing evil things purely for shits and giggles makes one worse overall than someone who inherently had a somewhat worthy goal.

Freddy Kreuger

Bondrewd seems like a total selfish bastard but Kreuger enjoys what he does and I think if Bondrewd was presented with an alternative that didn't involve sacrificing people he'd take it. Freddy would not.

Lopen posted...

Freddy Kreuger

Bondrewd seems like a total selfish bastard but Kreuger enjoys what he does and I think if Bonedrewd was presented with an alternative that didn't involve sacrificing people he'd take it. Freddy would not.

I think whats missing from the OP is the context that he did sacrifice himself for his initial experiments, but that ruined him in a way that made him unsuitable as a future test subject while also ironically giving him functional immortality. (but also the loss of what morals he still had)

skulltrumpets posted...

freddy kreuger. i think doing evil things purely for shits and giggles makes one worse overall than someone who inherently had a somewhat worthy goal.

Pretty much this.

Freddy in case quote votes don't count

Freddy

Intent matters a lot. And Freddy's intent is far more evil to me. Also for all the 'horror villains aren't actually characters' arguments, that doesn't fit Freddy at all. He's not just some scary monster who lives to cause pain and misery. He actively chose to become a dream demon after murdering (and potentially molesting, version depending) young children, and he relishes in everything he does.

A suggestion for TC: Given this tournament is nearing its end, how about making a good counterpart of this tournament in the future, entitled "Most Heroic Fictional Character"?

MegaWentEvil posted...

A suggestion for TC: Given this tournament is nearing its end, how about making a good counterpart of this tournament in the future, entitled "Most Heroic Fictional Character"?

I've actually done a Most Heroic tournament before, it was fun but definitely not as interesting as the Most Evil tournament. I suppose if there's enough interest, I could bring it back early next year!

How about a Most Tragic Character contest?

Freddy

Intent matters a lot. And Freddy's intent is far more evil to me. Also for all the 'horror villains aren't actually characters' arguments, that doesn't fit Freddy at all. He's not just some scary monster who lives to cause pain and misery. He actively chose to become a dream demon after murdering (and potentially molesting, version depending) young children, and he relishes in everything he does.

This is absolutely a key distinction between Freddy Krueger and "generic monster with a knife".

Freddy killed kids before he became supernatural. He's human, with human origins, doing what he does to children. He doesn't benefit from what he does or need to do what he does or have any sort of lofty goal in mind. He's not just some generic and ill defined "evil" force with vague origins that might as well just be a bear.

Also he messes with sleep I mean come on how evil can you get.

Personally I'd like to see another most evil one with new contestants. Most heroic feels like it'd be kinda bland. Most tragic / suffering character could be neat too

Pirateking2000 posted...

Personally I'd like to see another most evil one with new contestants.

Id second this.

I'd like to see a most benevolent character. Benevolence is a bit different than heroic.