Board 8 > Dead by Daylight Mafia Topic 6 - Scanners

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Isquen 11/05/23 1:51:51 PM #101:	That is a new user account and has already been reported and blocked. --- [Rock and Stone] <o/ <cite>Isquen posted [p:977048391] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>That is a new user account and has already been reported and blocked. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EDumey 11/05/23 1:52:32 PM #102:	The point seems to be to tell us that Ben did stakeout 2, and implies he was killed for it? But then Ben's statement at the start of D2 and his certainty of scum knowing about him doesn't make sense, otherwise he would have told us much more clearly about who he scanned, right? I'm thinking this is misdirection. --- my links broke. :( <cite>EDumey posted [p:977048400] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>The point seems to be to tell us that Ben did stakeout 2, and implies he was killed for it? But then Ben's statement at the start of D2 and his certainty of scum knowing about him doesn't make sense, otherwise he would have told us much more clearly about who he scanned, right? I'm thinking this is misdirection. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EDumey 11/05/23 1:52:40 PM #103:	oh --- my links broke. :( <cite>EDumey posted [p:977048403] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>oh </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ashethan 11/05/23 1:56:25 PM #104:	Alright, fine. I lied when I said I was a killer night 1. I was Mikaela night 1, and I'm Mikaela again now. Inquisitive lets me scan a player to see if they're a killer or a survivor. I decided to swap the order of my roles to see if anyone would claim being a killer or not on day 1. I guess it was kind of a dumb idea, but I thought 'hey, why not?' I also hoped swapping the nights I had power would keep me around long enough to come in with results on day 4. Oh, and I scanned FD night 1. He came back survivor. So I'm pretty sure that means he was town. As for why I scanned him, it was because of his role in the Ulti lynch. --- Board 8 Mafia Archive: ashchive.altervista.org <cite>Ashethan posted [p:977048471] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>Alright, fine.I lied when I said I was a killer night 1. I was Mikaela night 1, and I'm Mikaela again now. Inquisitive lets me scan a player to see if they're a killer or a survivor. I decided to swap the order of my roles to see if anyone would claim being a killer or not on day 1. I guess it was kind of a dumb idea, but I thought 'hey, why not?' I also hoped swapping the nights I had power would keep me around long enough to come in with results on day 4.Oh, and I scanned FD night 1. He came back survivor. So I'm pretty sure that means he was town. As for why I scanned him, it was because of his role in the Ulti lynch. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EDumey 11/05/23 1:57:40 PM #105:	Ashethan posted... Alright, fine. I lied when I said I was a killer night 1. I was Mikaela night 1, and I'm Mikaela again now. Inquisitive lets me scan a player to see if they're a killer or a survivor. I decided to swap the order of my roles to see if anyone would claim being a killer or not on day 1. I guess it was kind of a dumb idea, but I thought 'hey, why not?' I also hoped swapping the nights I had power would keep me around long enough to come in with results on day 4. Oh, and I scanned FD night 1. He came back survivor. So I'm pretty sure that means he was town. As for why I scanned him, it was because of his role in the Ulti lynch. I don't believe this for one second. Kill it with fire. --- my links broke. :( <cite>EDumey posted [p:977048489] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>Ashethan posted... </cite><quote>Alright, fine.I lied when I said I was a killer night 1. I was Mikaela night 1, and I'm Mikaela again now. Inquisitive lets me scan a player to see if they're a killer or a survivor. I decided to swap the order of my roles to see if anyone would claim being a killer or not on day 1. I guess it was kind of a dumb idea, but I thought 'hey, why not?' I also hoped swapping the nights I had power would keep me around long enough to come in with results on day 4.Oh, and I scanned FD night 1. He came back survivor. So I'm pretty sure that means he was town. As for why I scanned him, it was because of his role in the Ulti lynch.</quote>I don't believe this for one second. Kill it with fire. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EDumey 11/05/23 2:07:02 PM #106:	To answer you more cleanly now, BCT. My original post saying, "why wasn't it JC?" was just meant as a cheeky prediction of Ashethan claiming to not scan JC with useful information that would have helped us figure out if JC was telling the truth or not, seeing as how scanning JC took me about 10 seconds to think of as a logical answer if I had Ben's Inquisitive role. I forgot at that time that JC claimed to have gained untargettable as a trait, as evidenced by me dumbly saying EDumey posted... If Ben were still alive, he would be able to scan JC and test his trait to verify this, but now that Ben is dead, that's no longer an option. before then. Whoops. I did realize my mistake by the time you asked me a clarifying question though, and just gave a smiley face response being cheeky and trying to say let Ashethan respond first. --- my links broke. :( <cite>EDumey posted [p:977048649] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>To answer you more cleanly now, BCT. My original post saying, "why wasn't it JC?" was just meant as a cheeky prediction of Ashethan claiming to not scan JC with useful information that would have helped us figure out if JC was telling the truth or not, seeing as how scanning JC took me about 10 seconds to think of as a logical answer if I had Ben's Inquisitive role.I forgot at that time that JC claimed to have gained untargettable as a trait, as evidenced by me dumbly saying EDumey posted... </cite><quote>If Ben were still alive, he would be able to scan JC and test his trait to verify this, but now that Ben is dead, that's no longer an option.</quote>before then. Whoops. I did realize my mistake by the time you asked me a clarifying question though, and just gave a smiley face response being cheeky and trying to say let Ashethan respond first. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
htaeD 11/05/23 2:10:22 PM #107:	Well its gone now, so I assume it was someone in the wrong place. For those without context, an account with 3 karma made their first post just now --- Violet IGN: Malta, Sword IGN: Pandora Home: Pandorian/JBURSQAVTAGA <cite>htaeD posted [p:977048714] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>Well its gone now, so I assume it was someone in the wrong place.For those without context, an account with 3 karma made their first post just now </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
htaeD 11/05/23 2:10:42 PM #108:	This is what I get when I dont check for new pages --- Violet IGN: Malta, Sword IGN: Pandora Home: Pandorian/JBURSQAVTAGA <cite>htaeD posted [p:977048719] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>This is what I get when I dont check for new pages </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
htaeD 11/05/23 2:12:24 PM #109:	Yeah that just sounds like a backpedal. --- Violet IGN: Malta, Sword IGN: Pandora Home: Pandorian/JBURSQAVTAGA <cite>htaeD posted [p:977048738] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>Yeah that just sounds like a backpedal. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EDumey 11/05/23 2:15:58 PM #110:	I could have MAYBE bought two Inquisitives, one active on odd nights, one active on even nights. But now you want me to believe two on odd nights active at the same time? While Ben's role had very clear drawbacks for getting more detailed information? And Ash's has no downside at all? Naaaaaah, like Death said, this is just backpedaling the previous mistake. --- my links broke. :( <cite>EDumey posted [p:977048787] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>I could have MAYBE bought two Inquisitives, one active on odd nights, one active on even nights. But now you want me to believe two on odd nights active at the same time?While Ben's role had very clear drawbacks for getting more detailed information? And Ash's has no downside at all?Naaaaaah, like Death said, this is just backpedaling the previous mistake. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ashethan 11/05/23 2:23:27 PM #111:	EDumey posted... While Ben's role had very clear drawbacks for getting more detailed information? And Ash's has no downside at all? I mean Ben also has a even day ability, while I don't. The fact that they're named the same thing is also meaningless. I don't know what else to tell you. --- Board 8 Mafia Archive: ashchive.altervista.org <cite>Ashethan posted [p:977048900] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>EDumey posted... </cite><quote>While Ben's role had very clear drawbacks for getting more detailed information? And Ash's has no downside at all?</quote>I mean Ben also has a even day ability, while I don't. The fact that they're named the same thing is also meaningless. I don't know what else to tell you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
htaeD 11/05/23 2:31:58 PM #112:	##Vote: Ashe This Inquisitive is also way more powerful than Bens was This does line up with my theory that JC's shenanigans were a way to get Ashe out of the limelight, since the timing was very convenient. --- Violet IGN: Malta, Sword IGN: Pandora Home: Pandorian/JBURSQAVTAGA <cite>htaeD posted [p:977049060] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>##Vote: AsheThis Inquisitive is also way more powerful than Bens was This does line up with my theory that JC's shenanigans were a way to get Ashe out of the limelight, since the timing was very convenient. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wallmasterz 11/05/23 2:36:10 PM #113:	Were getting Christmas photos done soon, not feeling great about how thatll go with three kids including two under two. Wish me luck. ##Vote: Ashe I also dont buy post 6.104. I think jc is also scum but if so, the chain hunt might just be an extra kill and hopefully jc doesnt have any abilities beyond it, so Im good starting with Ashe. --- I need to update my signature. <cite>wallmasterz posted [p:977049120] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>Were getting Christmas photos done soon, not feeling great about how thatll go with three kids including two under two. Wish me luck. ##Vote: AsheI also dont buy post 6.104. I think jc is also scum but if so, the chain hunt might just be an extra kill and hopefully jc doesnt have any abilities beyond it, so Im good starting with Ashe. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 11/05/23 2:58:15 PM #114:	Wtf I didn't even know this day was up. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7 Currently playing: Control (X1) <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:977049422] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>Wtf I didn't even know this day was up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
htaeD 11/05/23 2:58:39 PM #115:	Having doubts about Corrik reading again --- Violet IGN: Malta, Sword IGN: Pandora Home: Pandorian/JBURSQAVTAGA <cite>htaeD posted [p:977049428] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>Having doubts about Corrik reading again </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leafeon13N 11/05/23 2:59:18 PM #116:	What is Ashe trying to backpedal to? <cite>Leafeon13N posted [p:977049436] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>What is Ashe trying to backpedal to? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leafeon13N 11/05/23 3:02:06 PM #117:	Everyone's "Role" as Survivor or Killer will be trading off at the beginning of every day. Every player has a new set of 1-3 traits for their new Role. <cite>Leafeon13N posted [p:977049472] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote><quote>Everyone's "Role" as Survivor or Killer will be trading off at the beginning of every day. Every player has a new set of 1-3 traits for their new Role. </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
htaeD 11/05/23 3:16:58 PM #118:	He says he is not an odd Killer even survivor anymore and that he lied when he first claimed. --- Violet IGN: Malta, Sword IGN: Pandora Home: Pandorian/JBURSQAVTAGA <cite>htaeD posted [p:977049689] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>He says he is not an odd Killer even survivor anymore and that he lied when he first claimed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueCrystalTear 11/05/23 3:21:33 PM #119:	htaeD posted... Yeah that just sounds like a backpedal. Who? I can see arguments for both Ethan and Dumey doing that. I don't like what Ethan is trying to justify himself with. And I don't like Dumey not saying that I paid him a visit, even after I put the pressure on him, and buffed something impossible. I'm trying to catch scum here using my gut reads and night actions. The latter are based on the former. Is it bad to think that both Ethan and Dumey could be scum here? (Also I gathered that an intruder had posted. Did the account get banned?) --- Help control the pet population. Have your pets spayed or neutered! RIP Bob Barker (1923 - 2023) - and thanks for all the memories. <cite>BlueCrystalTear posted [p:977049768] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>htaeD posted... </cite><quote>Yeah that just sounds like a backpedal.</quote>Who? I can see arguments for both Ethan and Dumey doing that.I don't like what Ethan is trying to justify himself with. And I don't like Dumey not saying that I paid him a visit, even after I put the pressure on him, and buffed something impossible. I'm trying to catch scum here using my gut reads and night actions. The latter are based on the former. Is it bad to think that both Ethan and Dumey could be scum here?(Also I gathered that an intruder had posted. Did the account get banned?) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
htaeD 11/05/23 3:25:31 PM #120:	(Is that even a bannable offense?) I think Dumey could have been laying a trap for Ethan, even if that means he lied I also find it hard to believe Ethan would claim like that if Edumey was his scummate. --- Violet IGN: Malta, Sword IGN: Pandora Home: Pandorian/JBURSQAVTAGA <cite>htaeD posted [p:977049830] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>(Is that even a bannable offense?)I think Dumey could have been laying a trap for Ethan, even if that means he liedI also find it hard to believe Ethan would claim like that if Edumey was his scummate. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EDumey 11/05/23 3:29:16 PM #121:	Maybe I didn't understand BCT, but I was not notified you visited me, if you're saying I was supposed to have been. --- my links broke. :( <cite>EDumey posted [p:977049898] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>Maybe I didn't understand BCT, but I was not notified you visited me, if you're saying I was supposed to have been. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
htaeD 11/05/23 4:38:30 PM #122:	I think I understand what BCT is saying, but I would like him to explain it in his own words. --- Violet IGN: Malta, Sword IGN: Pandora Home: Pandorian/JBURSQAVTAGA <cite>htaeD posted [p:977050983] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>I think I understand what BCT is saying, but I would like him to explain it in his own words. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UltimateBrohan 11/05/23 5:01:44 PM #123:	Not going to lie i do not understand a single thing thats happened since Day 1. I keep getting new role PMs that say nothing lmfaooo. A box? FD is in the upside down? Everyone has swapping day actions? Genuinely confused maybe im just stupid and not paying close enough attention. I hadnt even checked the Day 2 topic when the day ended so i guess its just me not caring enough sorry people. --- Esto es el fin, Grande Padre <cite>UltimateBrohan posted [p:977051385] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>Not going to lie i do not understand a single thing thats happened since Day 1. I keep getting new role PMs that say nothing lmfaooo. A box? FD is in the upside down? Everyone has swapping day actions? Genuinely confused maybe im just stupid and not paying close enough attention. I hadnt even checked the Day 2 topic when the day ended so i guess its just me not caring enough sorry people. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UltimateBrohan 11/05/23 5:03:30 PM #124:	As i understand it JC made the whole box thing? Like thats his role? To not let us switch votes and also to be like bulletproof or untargetable? And to make some go to question mark question mark question mark land? --- Esto es el fin, Grande Padre <cite>UltimateBrohan posted [p:977051419] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>As i understand it JC made the whole box thing? Like thats his role? To not let us switch votes and also to be like bulletproof or untargetable? And to make some go to question mark question mark question mark land? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UltimateBrohan 11/05/23 5:03:45 PM #125:	And this is a town claim?? --- Esto es el fin, Grande Padre <cite>UltimateBrohan posted [p:977051425] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>And this is a town claim?? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UltimateBrohan 11/05/23 5:04:46 PM #126:	Now i got this fuckin guy half scanner half killer but actually i lied about when i scan and when i kill because?? --- Esto es el fin, Grande Padre <cite>UltimateBrohan posted [p:977051448] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>Now i got this fuckin guy half scanner half killer but actually i lied about when i scan and when i kill because?? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
htaeD 11/05/23 5:24:05 PM #127:	I guess this was a weird game for you and Ashe to come back to. But you only have 2 roles, we just switch back and forth between them JC was behind the box yes, but he claims he cant do it anymore. And no as far as I am concerned this is not a townclaim anymore since he used it to 'kill' FD. --- Violet IGN: Malta, Sword IGN: Pandora Home: Pandorian/JBURSQAVTAGA <cite>htaeD posted [p:977051772] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>I guess this was a weird game for you and Ashe to come back to.But you only have 2 roles, we just switch back and forth between themJC was behind the box yes, but he claims he cant do it anymore.And no as far as I am concerned this is not a townclaim anymore since he used it to 'kill' FD. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
htaeD 11/05/23 5:27:43 PM #128:	Oh and Ashethan is a whole different can of worms Its a game of killers and survivors and we swap between them at the start of a new day Ashethan claimed to be a killer day1, when most claimed to be a survivor. Now he claims he lied and he was a survivor day1 instead (and is again today). The Killer thing is not a role, just a flavor distinction. --- Violet IGN: Malta, Sword IGN: Pandora Home: Pandorian/JBURSQAVTAGA <cite>htaeD posted [p:977051851] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>Oh and Ashethan is a whole different can of wormsIts a game of killers and survivors and we swap between them at the start of a new dayAshethan claimed to be a killer day1, when most claimed to be a survivor.Now he claims he lied and he was a survivor day1 instead (and is again today).The Killer thing is not a role, just a flavor distinction. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 11/05/23 6:32:33 PM #129:	htaeD posted... Having doubts about Corrik reading again I haven't read anything today yet tbqh. Wrestling tournament today. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7 Currently playing: Control (X1) <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:977053008] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>htaeD posted... </cite><quote>Having doubts about Corrik reading again</quote>I haven't read anything today yet tbqh. Wrestling tournament today. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chaeix 11/05/23 6:39:58 PM #130:	hi all - before i get started i would once again like to ask you all what the scum equity in this play is. i was not forced to claim, and could have just left people to wonder what the box was, and then decide to spare or kill silently. if i was deadset on killing someone, i would not have claimed and would have just silently killed whoever opened the box. also fd is not coming back there is no grand revival gimmick. EDumey posted... JC did you know that killing FD there would end the day? I asked you a question about what would happen if we lynched you after someone picked up the box, and you conveniently chose to not answer that question. realized i didn't respond to this. well in all honesty when i read through the role i missed that it would end day and then by the time i realized i had already claimed and decided to just leave it instead of coming across as even more inconsistent and floundering. i would also encourage you to consider that scum knows that i am town and is now panicking over whether i have some secret reward for killing someone. your argument for why i am scum applies equally to why i am town tbh. did i get more than just untargetability? red13n posted... The order of events here needs clarification. thanks for reading the exchange where FD and i clarified this. it's in the topic, probably page 5 or 6, have at er. i did get knowledge of the switch in advance because of my intuitive trait. bark up a tree that has fruit, red. Obellisk posted... Sultan, JC, Wallz. 1 of you is guaranteed scum. Please state the case for the one that is and the one that isn't (other than yourself) wallz not being even willing to engage with the concept of my role in an absurd game like this is somewhat distressing. there was clearly some weird shit going on with my role. anyways there is absolutely no doubt that there is some scum in the group of people that have brought my name up today. i'm the obvious lynch target and as i just mentioned, if i still have some kind of reward, they want town to waste a lynch on me instead of themselves having to waste a night kill on me at some point in the game. i'm having trouble reading sultan this game tbh. it seems weird that his scumlist is so limited and so poe. it's a lot of low hanging fruit. i don't think sultan would go for a scumbuddy with me in his poe. and i don't think scumbuddies sultan and wallz would be so split on their opinions of me. that's all to say i would lynch wallz before sultan at this exact point in time and if wallz is scum then sultan is almost definitely not scum. honestly probably just a coin toss on them being scum, 1 is. htaeD posted... ##Vote: Ashe This Inquisitive is also way more powerful than Bens was This does line up with my theory that JC's shenanigans were a way to get Ashe out of the limelight, since the timing was very convenient. go for ash idc, the chain hunt started before there was really any limelight i feel more strongly about individuals' towniness than scumminess this game and this is my 5-person poe (5/17 isn't too much?). there is a lot of inactivity in there which i don't like, and probably just the right amount of OMGUS? i dunno, i feel kind of like i'm just saying words 1. Ashethan 3. Corrik7 / Corrik 7. IfGodCouldDie / IGCD 10. red13n / Leafeon13n ONE OF 12. UltimateBrohan / Brohan 13. wallmasterz / Wallz --- we're all buds~jc~ <DeathChicken> you are my hero for being the first person to cite National Geographic in Mercs <cite>Chaeix posted [p:977053157] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>hi all - before i get started i would once again like to ask you all what the scum equity in this play is. i was not forced to claim, and could have just left people to wonder what the box was, and then decide to spare or kill silently. if i was deadset on killing someone, i would not have claimed and would have just silently killed whoever opened the box. also fd is not coming back there is no grand revival gimmick.EDumey posted... </cite><quote>JC did you know that killing FD there would end the day? I asked you a question about what would happen if we lynched you after someone picked up the box, and you conveniently chose to not answer that question.</quote>realized i didn't respond to this. well in all honesty when i read through the role i missed that it would end day and then by the time i realized i had already claimed and decided to just leave it instead of coming across as even more inconsistent and floundering.i would also encourage you to consider that scum knows that i am town and is now panicking over whether i have some secret reward for killing someone. your argument for why i am scum applies equally to why i am town tbh. did i get more than just untargetability?red13n posted... </cite><quote>The order of events here needs clarification.</quote>thanks for reading the exchange where FD and i clarified this. it's in the topic, probably page 5 or 6, have at er. i did get knowledge of the switch in advance because of my intuitive trait. bark up a tree that has fruit, red.Obellisk posted... </cite><quote>Sultan, JC, Wallz. 1 of you is guaranteed scum. Please state the case for the one that is and the one that isn't (other than yourself)</quote>wallz not being even willing to engage with the concept of my role in an absurd game like this is somewhat distressing. there was clearly some weird shit going on with my role. anyways there is absolutely no doubt that there is some scum in the group of people that have brought my name up today. i'm the obvious lynch target and as i just mentioned, if i still have some kind of reward, they want town to waste a lynch on me instead of themselves having to waste a night kill on me at some point in the game.i'm having trouble reading sultan this game tbh. it seems weird that his scumlist is so limited and so poe. it's a lot of low hanging fruit. i don't think sultan would go for a scumbuddy with me in his poe. and i don't think scumbuddies sultan and wallz would be so split on their opinions of me.that's all to say i would lynch wallz before sultan at this exact point in time and if wallz is scum then sultan is almost definitely not scum. honestly probably just a coin toss on them being scum, 1 is.htaeD posted... </cite><quote>##Vote: AsheThis Inquisitive is also way more powerful than Bens was This does line up with my theory that JC's shenanigans were a way to get Ashe out of the limelight, since the timing was very convenient.</quote>go for ash idc, the chain hunt started before there was really any limelighti feel more strongly about individuals' towniness than scumminess this game and this is my 5-person poe (5/17 isn't too much?). there is a lot of inactivity in there which i don't like, and probably just the right amount of OMGUS? i dunno, i feel kind of like i'm just saying words1. Ashethan3. Corrik7 / Corrik7. IfGodCouldDie / IGCD10. red13n / Leafeon13n ONE OF 12. UltimateBrohan / Brohan13. wallmasterz / Wallz </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chaeix 11/05/23 6:55:27 PM #131:	Sultan, how different was your feline grace flavour text from Ulti's? Is it possible that Inquisitive could mean such different things? Despite the name being the same the scans do appear to target different things - effectively the difference between a rolecop and a regular cop, which also both have 'cop' in the name. Do we know if Ben was in fact an even night scanner? I wasn't 100% sure if the flip was 'as he died' or 'as he started the game' tbh. Ashethan's scan being on a different night does make it look somewhat appealing as a complementary and converse kind of scan on a different night. ashethan what would you have actually claimed if you had been forced to claim d1? --- we're all buds~jc~ <DeathChicken> you are my hero for being the first person to cite National Geographic in Mercs <cite>Chaeix posted [p:977053458] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>Sultan, how different was your feline grace flavour text from Ulti's? Is it possible that Inquisitive could mean such different things?Despite the name being the same the scans do appear to target different things - effectively the difference between a rolecop and a regular cop, which also both have 'cop' in the name.Do we know if Ben was in fact an even night scanner? I wasn't 100% sure if the flip was 'as he died' or 'as he started the game' tbh. Ashethan's scan being on a different night does make it look somewhat appealing as a complementary and converse kind of scan on a different night.ashethan what would you have actually claimed if you had been forced to claim d1? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chaeix 11/05/23 7:04:21 PM #132:	i only just realized this was the scum team name after glossing over it because it wasn't capitalized - "Kill Your Friends team" - from ben's role --- we're all buds~jc~ <DeathChicken> you are my hero for being the first person to cite National Geographic in Mercs <cite>Chaeix posted [p:977053639] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>i only just realized this was the scum team name after glossing over it because it wasn't capitalized - "Kill Your Friends team" - from ben's role </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
changmas 11/05/23 7:06:48 PM #133:	please let's not get trapped on trait meta Isquen posted... Traits may be identical or have similar names, but their descriptions may vary. this reminds me of Dota 2 mafia (also hosted by isquen) where i was convinced ctes was scum because in addition to the insane psychic counterclaim (that shall never be mentioned again) he was a watcher from the start with an upgrade and i had to accumulate 500 gold over like 4 in game days to upgrade myself into a watcher. if ashe is lying it's not because his inquisitive is different than ben's so let's just drop that argument. --- The Artist Formerly Known as Hannyabal <cite>changmas posted [p:977053680] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>please let's not get trapped on trait meta<cite>Isquen posted... </cite><quote>Traits may be identical or have similar names, but their descriptions may vary.</quote>this reminds me of Dota 2 mafia (also hosted by isquen) where i was convinced ctes was scum because in addition to the insane psychic counterclaim (that shall never be mentioned again) he was a watcher from the start with an upgrade and i had to accumulate 500 gold over like 4 in game days to upgrade myself into a watcher.if ashe is lying it's not because his inquisitive is different than ben's so let's just drop that argument. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
changmas 11/05/23 7:09:17 PM #134:	a watcher from the start with a much better upgrade possibility --- The Artist Formerly Known as Hannyabal <cite>changmas posted [p:977053723] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>a watcher from the start with a much better upgrade possibility </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chaeix 11/05/23 7:14:06 PM #135:	changmas coming in hot with some of the best townposting of the day --- we're all buds~jc~ <DeathChicken> you are my hero for being the first person to cite National Geographic in Mercs <cite>Chaeix posted [p:977053818] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>changmas coming in hot with some of the best townposting of the day </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
changmas 11/05/23 7:16:00 PM #136:	as for ashe themselves, i'm kind of torn but leaning town at this point the more i think about it. the claim is sooooo bad i almost feel like it has to be real right like if he's scum and knows exactly who's town and who isn't. he can just claim a town scan on literally any alive player and probably get away with it. and he's claiming cop rather than like, tracker or whatever so there's literally no need hide the result on a dead player because it's all information the whole scum team would have --- The Artist Formerly Known as Hannyabal <cite>changmas posted [p:977053844] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>as for ashe themselves, i'm kind of torn but leaning town at this point the more i think about it. the claim is sooooo bad i almost feel like it has to be realright like if he's scum and knows exactly who's town and who isn't. he can just claim a town scan on literally any alive player and probably get away with it. and he's claiming cop rather than like, tracker or whatever so there's literally no need hide the result on a dead player because it's all information the whole scum team would have </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
changmas 11/05/23 7:16:59 PM #137:	i'm straight up counterculture posting right now though because wallz and death look worst to me, opportunistically jumping on ashe. i feel like there has to be a scum between them, surely --- The Artist Formerly Known as Hannyabal <cite>changmas posted [p:977053859] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>i'm straight up counterculture posting right now though because wallz and death look worst to me, opportunistically jumping on ashe. i feel like there has to be a scum between them, surely </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
changmas 11/05/23 7:17:39 PM #138:	sorry i think it's ash* or ethan* my bad i keep reading your name as AsheThan --- The Artist Formerly Known as Hannyabal <cite>changmas posted [p:977053871] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>sorry i think it's ash* or ethan* my bad i keep reading your name as AsheThan </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chaeix 11/05/23 7:20:19 PM #139:	changmas posted... i'm straight up counterculture posting right now though because wallz and death look worst to me, opportunistically jumping on ashe. i feel like there has to be a scum between them, surely death has probably made the least impression on me of anyone that has been relatively active and i'm not sure what to think about it. will have to review him. also, another thought experiment for the townsfolk: what is the scum equity in claiming that i can win someone the game instead of pursuing literally any other course of action. that is the dumbest form of lie i could possibly have come up with. like it's so stupid it can't possibly not be true. i couldn't come up with it and it's not like a hypothetical scumbuddy would suggest that it was a good idea and encourage me --- we're all buds~jc~ <DeathChicken> you are my hero for being the first person to cite National Geographic in Mercs <cite>Chaeix posted [p:977053932] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>changmas posted... </cite><quote>i'm straight up counterculture posting right now though because wallz and death look worst to me, opportunistically jumping on ashe. i feel like there has to be a scum between them, surely</quote>death has probably made the least impression on me of anyone that has been relatively active and i'm not sure what to think about it. will have to review him.also, another thought experiment for the townsfolk:what is the scum equity in claiming that i can win someone the game instead of pursuing literally any other course of action. that is the dumbest form of lie i could possibly have come up with.like it's so stupid it can't possibly not be true. i couldn't come up with it and it's not like a hypothetical scumbuddy would suggest that it was a good idea and encourage me </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
changmas 11/05/23 7:27:05 PM #140:	jc is like, screaming, bleeding town to me idk why everyone else thinks otherwise i dont even think the role is particularly anti-town except for the ending the day part of it i even think there's possible town utility, people were just circlejerking and FD impulsively did the action in like one minute before any critical thought was even possible --- The Artist Formerly Known as Hannyabal <cite>changmas posted [p:977054076] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>jc is like, screaming, bleeding town to me idk why everyone else thinks otherwisei dont even think the role is particularly anti-town except for the ending the day part of iti even think there's possible town utility, people were just circlejerking and FD impulsively did the action in like one minute before any critical thought was even possible </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chaeix 11/05/23 7:36:36 PM #141:	yeah, there was a lot to be discussed and people just poo-poo'd the entire thing, which has definite scum equity in it (the poo-pooing). people appeared to believe the scumteam being roleblocked was not worth town being fully roleblocked but we didn't even get into a discussion on the merits of that. how does that change the overall pace of the game if town agrees not to solve the box? like, maybe the end result would have been that it was a bad idea but there was shit to talk about so when someone says 'i don't see what kind of fun fd ruined' it's pretty clear that we could have had fun with the role, y'all are just lazy --- we're all buds~jc~ <DeathChicken> you are my hero for being the first person to cite National Geographic in Mercs <cite>Chaeix posted [p:977054265] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>yeah, there was a lot to be discussed and people just poo-poo'd the entire thing, which has definite scum equity in it (the poo-pooing).people appeared to believe the scumteam being roleblocked was not worth town being fully roleblocked but we didn't even get into a discussion on the merits of that. how does that change the overall pace of the game if town agrees not to solve the box? like, maybe the end result would have been that it was a bad idea but there was shit to talk about so when someone says 'i don't see what kind of fun fd ruined' it's pretty clear that we could have had fun with the role, y'all are just lazy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ashethan 11/05/23 7:36:54 PM #142:	Chaeix posted... ashethan what would you have actually claimed if you had been forced to claim d1? If forced to claim, I'd have claimed the only claim I could: Mikaela. But I wanted to avoid that at all costs, cause Mikaela screams Doctor to anyone who knows the flavor. Of course it seems like I'm one of the few here that do know it. I was actually surprised she wasn't one. changmas posted... sorry i think it's ash* or ethan* my bad i keep reading your name as AsheThan Yeah it is, but most people call me Ashe. After this game I'm probably changing it if they let me. And then just leave my old name in my signature. --- Board 8 Mafia Archive: ashchive.altervista.org <cite>Ashethan posted [p:977054270] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>Chaeix posted... </cite><quote>ashethan what would you have actually claimed if you had been forced to claim d1?</quote>If forced to claim, I'd have claimed the only claim I could: Mikaela. But I wanted to avoid that at all costs, cause Mikaela screams Doctor to anyone who knows the flavor. Of course it seems like I'm one of the few here that do know it. I was actually surprised she wasn't one.changmas posted... </cite><quote>sorry i think it's ash* or ethan* my bad i keep reading your name as AsheThan</quote>Yeah it is, but most people call me Ashe. After this game I'm probably changing it if they let me. And then just leave my old name in my signature. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ashethan 11/05/23 7:40:00 PM #143:	Chaeix posted... people appeared to believe the scumteam being roleblocked was not worth town being fully roleblocked but we didn't even get into a discussion on the merits of that. how does that change the overall pace of the game if town agrees not to solve the box? like, maybe the end result would have been that it was a bad idea but there was shit to talk about so when someone says 'i don't see what kind of fun fd ruined' it's pretty clear that we could have had fun with the role, y'all are just lazy My question for you is: Was there ever a chance you'd have spared someone there? Like if we had a longer discussion about it? --- Board 8 Mafia Archive: ashchive.altervista.org <cite>Ashethan posted [p:977054347] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>Chaeix posted... </cite><quote>people appeared to believe the scumteam being roleblocked was not worth town being fully roleblocked but we didn't even get into a discussion on the merits of that. how does that change the overall pace of the game if town agrees not to solve the box? like, maybe the end result would have been that it was a bad idea but there was shit to talk about so when someone says 'i don't see what kind of fun fd ruined' it's pretty clear that we could have had fun with the role, y'all are just lazy</quote>My question for you is: Was there ever a chance you'd have spared someone there? Like if we had a longer discussion about it? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
changmas 11/05/23 7:44:35 PM #144:	Ashethan posted... My question for you is: Was there ever a chance you'd have spared someone there? Like if we had a longer discussion about it? in the event that ashe is scum (which i find unlikely) this should fully absolve JC though now you can make the case that the scum team is all three of us ! --- The Artist Formerly Known as Hannyabal <cite>changmas posted [p:977054456] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>Ashethan posted... </cite><quote>My question for you is: Was there ever a chance you'd have spared someone there? Like if we had a longer discussion about it?</quote>in the event that ashe is scum (which i find unlikely) this should fully absolve JCthough now you can make the case that the scum team is all three of us ! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chaeix 11/05/23 7:49:34 PM #145:	Ashethan posted... My question for you is: Was there ever a chance you'd have spared someone there? Like if we had a longer discussion about it? Chaeix posted... I will say explicitly that no carrot has been dangled in front of me with respect to either option. Something could happen to Metalhead when I turn back to Jeff if I kill for example. I have no idea. I would not be surprised and of course will share the result with everyone, but as of right now, there is nothing. because i like to have fun while playing mafia and am not about to deprive myself of a chance to use a silly ability where worst case scenario we can just all agree that i spare someone? yes i was very open to discussion about sparing someone, but not 'just all agree'. fd did not give us the opportunity to agree on squat. --- we're all buds~jc~ <DeathChicken> you are my hero for being the first person to cite National Geographic in Mercs <cite>Chaeix posted [p:977054564] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>Ashethan posted... </cite><quote>My question for you is: Was there ever a chance you'd have spared someone there? Like if we had a longer discussion about it?</quote><cite>Chaeix posted... </cite><quote>I will say explicitly that no carrot has been dangled in front of me with respect to either option. Something could happen to Metalhead when I turn back to Jeff if I kill for example. I have no idea. I would not be surprised and of course will share the result with everyone, but as of right now, there is nothing.because i like to have fun while playing mafia and am not about to deprive myself of a chance to use a silly ability where worst case scenario we can just all agree that i spare someone?</quote>yes i was very open to discussion about sparing someone, but not 'just all agree'. fd did not give us the opportunity to agree on squat. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chaeix 11/05/23 7:51:04 PM #146:	Chaeix posted... yes i was very open to discussion about sparing someone, but not unless we 'just all agree'. fd did not give us the opportunity to agree on squat. fix'd because that was a non-sentence idk how i omitted 3 whole words --- we're all buds~jc~ <DeathChicken> you are my hero for being the first person to cite National Geographic in Mercs <cite>Chaeix posted [p:977054596] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>Chaeix posted... </cite><quote>yes i was very open to discussion about sparing someone, but not unless we 'just all agree'. fd did not give us the opportunity to agree on squat.</quote>fix'd because that was a non-sentence idk how i omitted 3 whole words </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Isquen 11/05/23 8:03:39 PM #147:	I am several moments late, but day actions are now LOCKED. The end of day will be in a little under 25 hours, at 9:00 pm EDT (stupid American time change blah.) Votals Ashe [3]: Dumey, Death, Wallz Brohan [1]: (BCT), Sultan Sultan [1]: IGCD Dumey [1]: BCT Wallz [0]: (Sultan) With 13 alive, a majority of 7 votes is required to condemn a player. --- [Rock and Stone] <o/ <cite>Isquen posted [p:977054849] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>I am several moments late, but day actions are now LOCKED. The end of day will be in a little under 25 hours, at 9:00 pm EDT (stupid American time change blah.)VotalsAshe [3]: Dumey, Death, WallzBrohan [1]: (BCT), SultanSultan [1]: IGCDDumey [1]: BCTWallz [0]: (Sultan)With 13 alive, a majority of 7 votes is required to condemn a player. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSultanOfSlam 11/05/23 8:14:29 PM #148:	Chaeix posted... Sultan, how different was your feline grace flavour text from Ulti's? Is it possible that Inquisitive could mean such different things? Mine is non vanilla. So it's possible it's different role with the same name --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple <cite>TheSultanOfSlam posted [p:977055017] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>Chaeix posted... </cite><quote>Sultan, how different was your feline grace flavour text from Ulti's? Is it possible that Inquisitive could mean such different things?</quote>Mine is non vanilla.So it's possible it's different role with the same name </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSultanOfSlam 11/05/23 8:14:54 PM #149:	BCT do you not know how tracker works? --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple <cite>TheSultanOfSlam posted [p:977055025] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>BCT do you not know how tracker works? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueCrystalTear 11/05/23 8:15:14 PM #150:	changmas posted... i dont even think the role is particularly anti-town except for the ending the day part of it You don't? I thought the idea of not allowing people to vote was very anti-town. Note how I voted for Brohan. With votes locked, how does town put pressure on somebody to try to confirm them? It's the same thing I did with Dumey. That said, the fact that he didn't get notified about a visitor makes me think he wasn't acting last night. Town becomes the killers on even nights, with scum being them on odd nights. Does this mean something concerning? Or can killers be vanillas even in a role madness game? This is the one hangup I get with Dumey. He very clearly didn't know what I was talking about, which is indicative of town, and I dare say that was a good sign. I'm not too familiar with town Dumey since he keeps rolling scum though, but nobody else seems concerned so... ##unvote Ashethan posted... Of course it seems like I'm one of the few here that do know it. Yeah my familiarity with DBD is limited to whatever your sister told me... which ain't much. --- Help control the pet population. Have your pets spayed or neutered! RIP Bob Barker (1923 - 2023) - and thanks for all the memories. <cite>BlueCrystalTear posted [p:977055031] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>changmas posted... </cite><quote>i dont even think the role is particularly anti-town except for the ending the day part of it</quote>You don't? I thought the idea of not allowing people to vote was very anti-town. Note how I voted for Brohan. With votes locked, how does town put pressure on somebody to try to confirm them?It's the same thing I did with Dumey. That said, the fact that he didn't get notified about a visitor makes me think he wasn't acting last night. Town becomes the killers on even nights, with scum being them on odd nights. Does this mean something concerning? Or can killers be vanillas even in a role madness game?This is the one hangup I get with Dumey. He very clearly didn't know what I was talking about, which is indicative of town, and I dare say that was a good sign. I'm not too familiar with town Dumey since he keeps rolling scum though, but nobody else seems concerned so...##unvoteAshethan posted... </cite><quote>Of course it seems like I'm one of the few here that do know it.</quote>Yeah my familiarity with DBD is limited to whatever your sister told me... which ain't much. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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