Board 8 > Dead by Daylight Mafia Topic 6 - Scanners

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the town equity was hoping that Id get some reward for killing him. I became untargetable last night, but I knew that in advance. The BP lie was because I WAS FULLY READY TO SPARE SOMEONE IF PEOPLE AGREED, AS I SAID EXPLICITLY, and give scum a reason to be worried about trying to shoot me in that case.

obviously I lied about untargetable so I could draw scum actions but the day did not pan out in a way that I think I actually drew any scum actions so its a wash

I been trying to bury Ashe all game, but I think we might have to lynch JC here right now. I am not entirely sure we should allow him another even phase.

I am pretty sure he did not have to reveal himself as the Box owner. Which does in a way express a dilemma. Why would he have revealed himself if he didn't have to and is an even day serial killer. But, on the other hand, it made someone more likelier to take it if he tried to sweeten the pot and possibly had a choice to spare them and so on.

JCs role is clearly nefarious. The right play here might be to eliminate that.

The problem ofc is... timing. 4-8-1.

We take him out. We are 4-7 tomorrow. We aren't mylo but we are darn close to it.

Let's say we lynch right today. JC again let's assume offs a town. And scum shoots a town.

3-6-1. We could never kill JC going forward without being at actual mylo. So, we kinda have to kill him today if we don't wanna be a mylo after.

And that's assuming this is also a correct lynch. Let's say this lynch is a curveball wrong.

4-5-1. We pretty much have lost at that point.

ok but surely Ashes lie looks bad no?

Okay but Sultans lie is the kind of thing people should just not do.
Ethans lie is ...maybe.. something I can see town do. And I only say maybe because Ethan does have the experience gap working against him.

Was my initial vote a kneejerk reaction? A little bit. But so far I dont see anything from him that makes me want to drop it. I would much rather he defend himself than you defend him, Changmas.

Though even if I did see something that made me feel better about Ethan somehow, I would probably want to vote JC next anyway.

Oh that was me referencing your 24hours lie from the previous game, though Changmas referenced it first.

If you have lied this game, then I wouldnt know when and where.

Can you show me where this happened and why you follow up this post with you can't understand how you formed an opinion on red.

well the value is that Im pretty sure those two concrete lynch options are town and the ones Im proposing arent

people have got to get past the idea that lying and even lying poorly are indicators of being scum (see: sultan last game)

well the value is that Im pretty sure those two concrete lynch options are town and the ones Im proposing arent

people have got to get past the idea that lying and even lying poorly are indicators of being scum (see: sultan last game)

Sultan last game was busy with other things and thought it would be funny to mess around by only posting votes. That's not scum intent, just a little anti-town

plus if I come in and say oh yeah the only thing that happens if I spare someone is they get my role/flavor I dont even get a benefit then thats even less believable. I get theres not much town equity in lying but when you have a truth that people clearly have trouble believing it makes sense to try to make it more conceptually palatable.

also if I get lynched for a third time for having a town role that is so stupid that it people cant believe it (lets be real, youre lynching the role more than me) I probably wont return to mafia again ever.

thats not a threat not to lynch me, Im not going to have a tantrum or anything, but holy shit Im tired of having my time wasted by rolling things that people refuse and believe are actual things. hated townie, town doomed, and this are all fucking cursed.

Sultan he already said it was optional, I feel like youre just faking being interested in asking clarifying questions now.

Ashe, what do you think of Sultan, Corrik and Red?

Oh I missed that so I'm going to claim a trait here...

Intuitive- so I was forwarded a bit about Pinhead. So basically he is lying again atleast based off my text. It says Pinnhead cheats and will take control of a full day. I don't think it was optional as he is stating.

I wanted to say something yesterday but it told me to not interfere with this possess (assuming now that opening the box kills you)

jc if youre actually town, Id be very suspicious of sultan in your shoes.

Why come forward with this now sultan? Why not sooner? This timing reads to me like if youre scum and jc is town, you thought jc was an easy mislynch and now youre worried jc might talk his way out of it.

Can you be a little more clear? I realize you have to paraphrase and can't direct quote, but what part of your trait implies that it wasn't a choice?

I'm sure it's happened before, but not in recent history. But with Ben's flip telling us about the Kill Your Friends team, I would really doubt multiple 3rd parties without some kind of hard evidence.

Also Sultan what makes your role different from Bens scans?

You may be mixing up the trait names a little? Sultan is claimed Intuitive, just like you.

Ashethan is the one that claimed Inquisitive, just like Ben.

1) yeah I guess I probably wasnt lynched as town doomed, still traumatizing though
2) I said this last day but part of the reason I used it was because the next time I could use it was in advance of D4 (and Id have to be alive going into D4). Do I ever make it to D4? Rarely.

Sultan can you clarify exactly what you mean by your suggestion that Pinhead had to be used?

Because yes, the intuitive trait had to manifest N1 to allow me to become Elliott/Pinhead, and yes, youre correct that Pinhead takes over the entire day, but also taking over the entire day is not because of my intuitive trait.

My intuitive trait is what allowed me to access the Chain Hunt early. It was the Game Master trait of Elliotts that actually *is* the chain hunt (Elliott is Game Master Sadist Metalhead). Sadist was my ability to spare or kill after the chain hunt (not sure I said that explicitly with my claim).

So I need more info from you Sultan.

Also Sultan what makes your role different from Bens scans?

Its happened, but I am not even sure we have 1 3rd party.

if this is true you really should have said this yesterday tho, Sultan.
I'd be more inclined to believe you if you werent seen as a suspect by a lot of people already, which could make this a desperate trade off.

Mine just told me directly that Pinehead cheats and to not interact with it.

It sounds like the ability was inevitable and would happened during the game based on how it was worded.

As soon as you claimed I was like oh fuck. Okay don't mess with the box. Though I should have realized earlier when it said nothing could be done until the box was resolved. Definitely didn't put 2 and 2 together

Oh with that wording, cheating does make the box seem to be lethal either way.

Interesting.

A few questions - when did you scan me? Did you actually scan me or does your intuitive trait just give PMs?

Also why does Pinhead cheats mean you jumped to the conclusion that I had to use it as either a mandatory thing or wincon?