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For some reason they can recast a major villain for an entire phase but not BP.

the other issue is jonathan majors irl problems

For some reason they can recast a major villain for an entire phase but not BP.

anyone remember what happened in Shang-Chi, The Eternals

The problem is the build up is not good enough.
He should be shown as a growing threat.

He should have killed everyone in Ant Man 3 and went on his way. Not like were going to see any of those characters ever again anyway except maybe Paul Rudd.

All this multiversal stuff is part of his story as much as the Infinity gems were part of Thanos'.

Three Kang variants already had significant roles in Loki s1, s2 and Ant-Man. Before Infinity War Thanos was only in end credit teasers, and a minor appearance in GotG. We were shown nothing about his backstory or his motives before IW. Kang has gotten more build up so far.

I don't really believe every new villain needs to one-up the one before to be interesting, but even then Kang is a threat on an entirely different level. Plus for obvious reasons, He Who Remains and Quantumania's Kang aren't the variants the Avengers will team up against. There's likely going to be a more threatening one, or a group of them.

All this multiversal stuff is part of his story as much as the Infinity gems were part of Thanos'.

Three Kang variants already had significant roles in Loki s1, s2 and Ant-Man. Before Infinity War Thanos was only in end credit teasers, and a minor appearance in GotG. We were shown nothing about his backstory or his motives before IW. Kang has gotten more build up so far.

I don't really believe every new villain needs to one-up the one before to be interesting, but even then Kang is a threat on an entirely different level. Plus for obvious reasons, He Who Remains and Quantumania's Kang aren't the variants the Avengers will team up against. There's likely going to be a more threatening one, or a group of them.

You realize how goofy it will look to have several Jonathon Powers on screen together with different accents and outfits? It's going to be ridiculous in the best case scenario.

Kang is dangerous cause he can change time, the universe, and is basically immortal.

You realize how goofy it will look to have several Jonathon Powers on screen together with different accents and outfits? It's going to be ridiculous in the best case scenario.

You realize how goofy it will look to have several Jonathon Powers on screen together with different accents and outfits? It's going to be ridiculous in the best case scenario.

All this multiversal stuff is part of his story as much as the Infinity gems were part of Thanos'.

Three Kang variants already had significant roles in Loki s1, s2 and Ant-Man. Before Infinity War Thanos was only in end credit teasers, and a minor appearance in GotG. We were shown nothing about his backstory or his motives before IW. Kang has gotten more build up so far.

I don't really believe every new villain needs to one-up the one before to be interesting, but even then Kang is a threat on an entirely different level. Plus for obvious reasons, He Who Remains and Quantumania's Kang aren't the variants the Avengers will team up against. There's likely going to be a more threatening one, or a group of them.

The infinity stones and their locations were central parts of the movies

The Infinity Stones were very prevalent in the first 3 phases

The infinity stones weren't mention by name until the end credits of Thor 2, five and a half years after the MCU started. The Tesseract and Loki's staff appeared before but they weren't identified as such.

And Kang doesn't have to be in every little thing. They can easily just use after credits in tons of different movies and shows to slowly build up more of his threat.

He doesn't but they should be more strategic with how they use him. Thanos was the guy behind the antagonist not the one losing to the heroes. In Multiverse of Madness one of the worlds they were passing through could've been controlled by Kang. Not someone to defeat, just as someone powerful that's scene. In Antman, they should've gone for the setback instead of the defeat. If Antman was the one to break his device and trap him in the quantum realm instead of the mom. That way at the end he's threateningly starting to build an army in the quantum world instead of being dead. They tried to use the Council of Kangs to make him still threatening but it's not the same. It's too much. If the Council is assembling an army of Kangs then shouldn't the "attack" be happening next installment?

the threat is also extremely vague

what are they threatened by? Ant Man? Did they really need an entire army to stop Ant Man? Are they no longer attempting to destroy each other? Do they need all these resources for just one "branch"?

They shoulda just went with Dr Doom as the big bad. He's more interesting then Kang ever has been.

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People have serious selective memory when it comes to the first three phase. Thanos had literally one actual scene in the entirety of the franchise leading up to Infinity War and a few name drops in GotG. Most of the stones were just macguffins until they were tied back in. There was no build up whatsoever of his threat beyond the occasional vague "something big is coming" lines. We already know more of who Kang is and what's coming from him from his two appearances than we did about Thanos before Infinity War.

People have serious selective memory when it comes to the first three phase. Thanos had literally one actual scene in the entirety of the franchise leading up to Infinity War and a few name drops in GotG. Most of the stones were just macguffins until they were tied back in. There was no build up whatsoever of his threat beyond the occasional vague "something big is coming" lines. We already know more of who Kang is and what's coming from him from his two appearances than we did about Thanos before Infinity War.

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Thanos proved he was a threat and Kang still needs to demonstrate why he should be taken seriously outside of having a bunch of his alternates laugh in the air while hanging out in a coliseum.

Thanos proved he can hire powerful henchmen. If Thanos wasn't as badass as he was in IW people would just be complaining that he sat in a chair for 10 years and then died...twice. It's all hindsight.

That scene where you see them all celebrating just looked so damn funny when it was clearly meant to be serious.

Even if Kang remains, what Avengers are we getting? A plucky young mix of Kate Bishop, Yelena, Shang Chi, and Shuri-Panther? Not very palatable to say the least.

I've always found multiversal/multiple Earths & time travel to be some of the laziest narrative elements you can do. All it does is give writers carte blanche to re-do or retcon anything and avoid the natural conclusions that a story should go towards. With that said, I still have some trust in the MCU to do it right, but it is fading.

Even if Kang remains, what Avengers are we getting? A plucky young mix of Kate Bishop, Yelena, Shang Chi, and Shuri-Panther? Not very palatable to say the least.

We have what... Captain Falcon, Bucky, Ant Man, Thor if he goes back to Earth, an injured Hulk, War Machine?

For Kang all we've seen him do is die and make some lines on a map, and then in another instance he got into a fight with the comic relief hero and died to a bunch of ants.

This is proof that you didnt watch Quantumania.

Kang wasnt killed by the ants. He came back and beat the shit outta Scott. Also those werent regular ants, those were giant intelligent future ants.

Another thing is Kang likely isnt dead. He was shrunk into his multiverse engine like Scott did earlier in the movie.

Kang has never been a physical threat before. His plan is usually to travel back in time to before the heroes existed and beat them before they fight.

Also those werent regular ants, those were giant intelligent future ants.