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Rise_Makaveli
11/02/23 9:24:16 AM
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https://twitter.com/pokemon/status/1720063354457223438?s=46&t=MclOgjiC_DZiKahxLVoZDg

this is the one where all previous starters return

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WingsOfGood
11/02/23 9:46:47 AM
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They fix the bugs now?
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WalkingPlague
11/02/23 9:50:01 AM
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god, scarlet/violet is a piece of trash. its sad how terrible pokemon games have become.

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C_Pain
11/02/23 9:52:30 AM
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I learned my lesson from the sword and shield DLC and I didn't get this one. Just give me Legends 2 or let's go Johto.

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MatzoTov
11/02/23 10:33:48 AM
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C_Pain posted...
I learned my lesson from the sword and shield DLC and I didn't get this one. Just give me Legends 2 or let's go Johto.
I didn't learn mine... I bought the DLC and barely got anywhere in part 1.

It's literally reselling portions of the Pokedex that were deliberately stolen to then resell for this very purpose.

Shame on me.

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Kaldrenthebold
11/02/23 10:37:51 AM
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This will break an already broken game more if they add all the Pokemon.

What a disaster this game is. Not even sure how far I made it in Scarlet but I just hated so much about it.

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HashtagSEP
11/02/23 10:45:51 AM
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MatzoTov posted...
I didn't learn mine... I bought the DLC and barely got anywhere in part 1.

It's literally reselling portions of the Pokedex that were deliberately stolen to then resell for this very purpose.

Shame on me.

You dont need to buy the DLC to get all the Pokmon. You didnt in Sword and Shield, either.

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Proto_Spark
11/02/23 10:57:24 AM
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But the DLCs are generally... good? The DLC's for SwSh were both great, and the Teal Mask was pretty fun for what it was. Being in such a small-section, the DLCs are usually better than the base game is.

WingsOfGood posted...
They fix the bugs now?

Most of the gamebreaking/fun bugs like cloning stuff are gone, but everything more than 5 feet from your character is still about 5 fps. Because there's obviously some attempt to handle it, it makes me think the whole underlying engine is just so poorly optimized they can't really do much short of going through everything from the ground up. And that isn't gonna happen.
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random_man9119
11/02/23 11:02:36 AM
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Awesome... Can't wait... Enjoyed Teal Mask but it definitely like it was setting up more for the second DLC...

Just hope we get Minior back finally...

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Seaman_Prime
11/02/23 11:08:27 AM
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Are we gonna have to cuck Kieran even more in this one?
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Solar_Crimson
11/02/23 11:17:17 AM
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I haven't even bought the DLC for this game yet.

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hereforemnant
11/02/23 11:41:13 AM
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And people will still buy it like the cucks they are

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Ubergeneral3
11/02/23 4:42:23 PM
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WingsOfGood posted...
They fix the bugs now?

Buggy gen 1 = good
"Buggy" gen 9 = bad

ok

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Bass
11/02/23 4:44:14 PM
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Ubergeneral3 posted...
Buggy gen 1 = good
"Buggy" gen 9 = bad

ok
At least those bugs can be exploited to get Mew and unlimited items, lol. Yeah, Gen 1 is a mess, but it's at least fun to break most of the time.

I had fun with Violet dispite the issues too, though.

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MarbyIsBack
11/02/23 4:45:23 PM
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Sooner than I thought. I thought they said it was gonna be in like, January or February of 2024.

But that might be my memory playing tricks on me again. My memory is worse than a goldfish. And not the animal. The snack.

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KalimariX8
11/02/23 4:54:19 PM
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I enjoyed playing Scarlet *shrugs*

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Solar_Crimson
11/02/23 5:31:45 PM
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Ubergeneral3 posted...
Buggy gen 1 = good
"Buggy" gen 9 = bad

ok
Gen 9 absolutely is buggy. So was Gen 1, but at least the majority of game-breaking bugs could not be found during regular play. In S/V, you're liable for the game to crash just by walking into the desert.

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StealThisSheen
11/02/23 5:35:03 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
Gen 9 absolutely is buggy. So was Gen 1, but at least the majority of game-breaking bugs could not be found during regular play. In S/V, you're liable for the game to crash just by walking into the desert.

To be honest, I'd take the occasional crash over some Gen 1 things that weren't bugs, such as limited item space, having to change PC boxes or else you literally couldn't catch a Pokemon, and so on.

Also, there will be no greater bug to me in anything than stuff like Wrap being infinite in Gen 1. Which is an annoyance, in hindsight, but oh boy did it make me mad, just via the sheer number of trainers who had things that could Wrap you in scenarios you absolutely did not want it to happen, like Rock Tunnel.

As an adult, I easily know how to handle it. But as a kid... Oh geez.

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Cemith
11/02/23 5:35:15 PM
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Can't wait for it. Finished the dex in Teal Mask and Kieran being an edgy boy will be fun.

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Trumble
11/02/23 5:35:36 PM
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Ubergeneral3 posted...
Buggy gen 1 = good
"Buggy" gen 9 = bad

ok
You could play through Gen 1 without ever noticing most bugs unless you already knew they were there. Can't speak either way for recent gens first hand, but from what I've heard it's things you notice just while trying to play normally. Huge difference.

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Uta
11/02/23 5:36:28 PM
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Gen 9 has a lot of bugs and performance issues that make it so that if anyone were to hate the game I 100% understand. That said. It's the best game since Gen 5 imo. Warts and all I'm glad to have a story that I can take seriously for a change and the switch to open world format really works well. The music is stellar and I'm probably never going to forget Area 0. I wish it were better executed, I wish the graphics and performance were actually contemporary, and I wish it wasn't so obviously GameFreak's minimum standard. Gen 7 comes close but those games had long swaths that put me to sleep.

Also, Larry the best Gym Leader period.

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Full_Pokedex
11/02/23 5:37:18 PM
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Scarlet and Violet are some of the best games In the franchise, I'm sorry that your obsession with graphics keeps you from seeing that.

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StealThisSheen
11/02/23 5:38:39 PM
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Trumble posted...
You could play through Gen 1 without ever noticing most bugs unless you already knew they were there. Can't speak either way for recent gens first hand, but from what I've heard it's things you notice just while trying to play normally. Huge difference.

To be fair, the fact you didn't notice them, to me, made some of them worse.

For example, a crash is a crash, yes, but a lot of games crash, and it's fairly commonplace.

In Gen 1, though, for example, you had moves that were supposed to raise your stats, but they actually LOWERED your stats... And you didn't even know it. You just assumed the Pokemon you were fighting was exceptionally tough, or that moves like Wrap were MEANT to be infinite, and so on.

This could just be "Older StealThisSheen" speaking, but nowadays, I'm more willing to accept a crash happening, since... As much as it sucks and shouldn't, these things happen in a lot of games, vs. me changing my strategy because a certain move appears to be working a certain way... Only to find out, years later... No, it was a bug, and I, basically, learned bad habits, based on that bug.

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StealThisSheen
11/02/23 5:40:36 PM
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Uta posted...
Also, Larry the best Gym Leader period.

I fucking love Larry. His character makes so much sense and hits home so hard.

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Hambo
11/02/23 5:51:18 PM
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I gotta wait to see or hear something good about part 2 before buying the dlc. Part 1 looked boring and there are reports that it runs even worse than the base game. And part 2 so far doesn't look like it has anything that I really wanna do, even though I really wanted to know more about the disc pokemon and Area Zero during the base game.

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StealThisSheen
11/02/23 5:55:46 PM
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The best part of the Pokemon DLC is, if you don't care about the new areas or story, you don't have to buy the DLC. You can just trade/transfer the Pokemon in, like always.

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WilliamPorygon
11/02/23 5:56:32 PM
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I can't wait to see how they fark it up this time

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Calwings
11/02/23 6:00:48 PM
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Full_Pokedex posted...
Scarlet and Violet are some of the best games In the franchise, I'm sorry that your obsession with graphics keeps you from seeing that.

It's not just graphics. It's bugs, lagging, crashing, the game slowing to a single-digit FPS in certain areas, the game literally deleting people's save files at one point earlier in its life and I'm not even fully sure if that problem was ever officially addressed. If it weren't for the absolutely horrible performance issues, I would agree with you that S/V is among the best in the franchise. But these issues are so horrible that they can't be overlooked and drag the entire experience down.

I bought Violet, and I enjoyed playing it despite the issues. But I'm not giving Nintendo more money for this DLC if the issues aren't fixed, and I'm definitely not buying the next Pokemon game (whatever it may be) in its launch window. If it comes out and doesn't have the same issues, then I'll buy it. But if the condition S/V launched in seems like it'll be the norm going forward, then I'm done with this franchise.

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Solar_Crimson
11/02/23 6:04:59 PM
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Calwings posted...
It's not just graphics. It's bugs, lagging, crashing, the game slowing to a single-digit FPS in certain areas, the game literally deleting people's save files at one point earlier in its life and I'm not even fully sure if that problem was ever officially addressed. If it weren't for the absolutely horrible performance issues, I would agree with you that S/V is among the best in the franchise. But these issues are so horrible that they can't be overlooked and drag the entire experience down.

I bought Violet, and I enjoyed playing it despite the issues. But I'm not giving Nintendo more money for this DLC if the issues aren't fixed, and I'm definitely not buying the next Pokemon game (whatever it may be) in its launch window. If it comes out and doesn't have the same issues, then I'll buy it. But if the condition S/V launched in seems like it'll be the norm going forward, then I'm done with this franchise.
Duncan is an unabashed Pokemon fanboy who can't take any criticisms towards the games, even from long-time veterans.

Even in this topic when people's issues are clearly not about the graphics, he assumes that people's issues are with the graphics.

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tremain07
11/02/23 6:07:53 PM
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Nice, right after me birthday

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MarbyIsBack
11/02/23 6:10:01 PM
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Full_Pokedex posted...
Scarlet and Violet are some of the best games In the franchise, I'm sorry that your obsession with graphics keeps you from seeing that.
Scarlet and violet are good but there are undeniable and understandable issues with the game that really drags the experience down, I'm sorry that your obsession with shilling for a terrible company keeps you from seeing that.

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Calwings
11/02/23 6:23:35 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
Duncan is an unabashed Pokemon fanboy who can't take any criticisms towards the games, even from long-time veterans.

Even in this topic when people's issues are clearly not about the graphics, he assumes that people's issues are with the graphics.

I'm fully aware of Duncan and his god-awful takes. I just didn't notice the username before I responded. Whoops.

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StealThisSheen
11/02/23 6:25:38 PM
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I think the primary issue is, while these bugs definitely exist, a majority of people don't ever witness them. Or, if they do, do so in bearable amounts.

That's why people keep buying Pokemon games. It's not out of "brand loyalty" or anything, we've seen how quickly casuals will turn on a franchise. It's that... They get what they want out of the game, which is catching/battling Pokemon, and if they do witness bugs, for the majority, they're not gamebreaking.

Like, I'll be honest. I know the games crash, I don't doubt that. That said, I played through Scarlet, in its entirety, without a single crash. I haven't played the DLC, so maybe I'll get one there, who knows.

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Guide
11/02/23 6:28:05 PM
#34:


Ubergeneral3 posted...
Buggy gen 1 = good
"Buggy" gen 9 = bad

ok

Different bugs; the former has useful exploits and are currently the only way to get shinies that still count as legitimate, the latter are just making the game worse.

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TheGoldenEel
11/02/23 6:30:46 PM
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I liked the Sword/Shield DLC a lot more than the base game, but here it seems particularly insulting that theyre selling DLC for a game that they never made properly functional

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Kaldrenthebold
11/03/23 1:51:22 PM
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Full_Pokedex posted...
Scarlet and Violet are some of the best games In the franchise, I'm sorry that your obsession with graphics keeps you from seeing that.


Imagine simping for one of the biggest media producers in the world and saying "it's just bad graphics bro get over it".

It was released and still is a wildly unacceptable product from them. They need to get their shit together. I had far, far more fun with Arceus than I have with Pokemon in a long time and they ditched all that made that good. The open world is trash in Scarlet, it has no flow and feels like rolling hills of nothing. No fun level design, no interesting routes, just big open meh.

It's nonsense. I'll take a brand new top down Pokemon over their completely failing attempts to make open world any day of the week. Maybe they can play around with Arceus more and produce a quality product, but Scarlet is terrible.

Glad I got it for Christmas so I didn't spend money on it.


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Baha05
11/03/23 1:52:44 PM
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HashtagSEP posted...
You dont need to buy the DLC to get all the Pokmon. You didnt in Sword and Shield, either.
People love to bitch for the sake of it.

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MuscleRobo
11/03/23 1:55:42 PM
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When it comes to the best game in the whole series I realize that's extremely subjective but I don't know how people could think Gen 8 is better than Gen 9.
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Irony
11/03/23 1:56:15 PM
#39:


I wonder if this will be so buggy it causes people's game systems to break

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Baha05
11/03/23 1:56:50 PM
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Irony posted...
I wonder if this will be so buggy it causes people's game systems to break
Probably not

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ai123
11/03/23 1:59:29 PM
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I've had the clipping, and the slo mo background NPCs, but none of the really bad body horror stuff.

Mind you, I tend to play in short bursts, never longer than an hour, and that most likely helps.

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the_crow13
11/03/23 2:00:55 PM
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Crown Tundra salvaged SwSh, hopefully this will help SV out. Framerate will still be ass but hopefully the content is fun

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DarthAragorn
11/03/23 2:08:06 PM
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I've seen some really bad bugs online, are any of those fixed? Like one where if you had battled too many trainers it broke a sidequest or something. One newer one where if you have more than 3 pokemon during the final boss (of the DLC? Wasn't super clear) your game would freeze

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Rise_Makaveli
11/03/23 4:02:47 PM
#44:


https://twitter.com/pokemon/status/1720471261942337704?s=46&t=MclOgjiC_DZiKahxLVoZDg

if its like sword and shield, itll have dlc on cart and be the only one to retain its value at all.

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StealThisSheen
11/03/23 4:08:28 PM
#45:


Rise_Makaveli posted...
https://twitter.com/pokemon/status/1720471261942337704?s=46&t=MclOgjiC_DZiKahxLVoZDg

if its like sword and shield, itll have dlc on cart and be the only one to retain its value at all.

This tends to be the opposite of how things like this usually work. It's typically the first release that retains value, while the later rereleases don't. Or, if they all do, the first releases are more valuable.

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firedoom666
11/03/23 4:28:34 PM
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Will the dlc add the other 400 or so pokemon missing from the game?

If the answer is no, then it is not worth it

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xlr_big-coop
11/03/23 4:31:59 PM
#47:


WalkingPlague posted...
god, scarlet/violet is a piece of trash. its sad how terrible pokemon games have become.


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Irony
11/03/23 4:35:11 PM
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Pokemon games have been terrible for a very long time

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StealThisSheen
11/03/23 4:38:07 PM
#49:


firedoom666 posted...
Will the dlc add the other 400 or so pokemon missing from the game?

If the answer is no, then it is not worth it

All of them, no. A lot of them, yes. And you don't have to buy the DLC to get them, so it doesn't have to be worth it, you can trade/transfer the Pokemon in, regardless. The DLC is literally only for the additional story content. If you don't want that, don't buy it, because you don't need it to get the Pokemon.

Honestly, if anything, this is how DLC SHOULD be done. Do you want the new story content? No? Then don't buy it. You can just trade/transfer in the returning Pokemon that they added back, just like the old games.

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