Board 8 > Dead by Daylight Mafia Topic 3: B8 Chainsaw Massacre

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Current Votals:
[3]Dumey - (Ulti), (Crescent), Brohan, Wallz, Ulti
[2]Sultan - IGCD, Ben
[2]Crescent - (IGCD), (SBell), (FD), Lea, Sultan
[2]Ulti - JC, Peaf
[1]Wallz - (Sultan), Ashe
[1]Ashe - (Ulti), Corrik
[0]FD - (Ulti)

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch. Day ends at 9:00 pm EST on October 31st, a bit more than 9 hours from now.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

I think regardless of alignment both Sultan and Crescent need to step away for 15 minutes. At best it's being distracting and only entrenching you both further into your feelings.

Repost for relevance

Uh ctes, you have Dumey on dumey action up there

Forgive me for not trusting your judgement on such matters

My work meeting is starting now though, back a bit later.

For someone with future vision, Lea sure cant see when to move to a new topic

(sorry couldnt resist)

FD I just think he's scum attempting to deflect my suspicious with OMGUS. That's it. There's nothing beyond my part of the argument here.

I would say I am a bit annoyed by how far he's going right now, but nothing more.

htaeD posted...

For someone with future vision, Lea sure cant see when to move to a new topic

(sorry couldnt resist)

thats present vision at this point tho

PeaceFrog posted...

Uh ctes, you have Dumey on dumey action up there

hawt, Im sorry I missed it.

Im not sorry I missed the ensuing 75 posts wondering if Dumeys TRAITS actually makes him a secret double voter who can only vote for himself with the second vote

Wallz do you still want me dead or have you just not bothered moving your vote during all this Ulti talk?

PeaceFrog posted...

Uh ctes, you have Dumey on dumey action up there

Oh my

If I had to pick one of Ulti, Sultan, or Crescent to vote for right now. It'd probably be Crescent. I have individual reasons for thinking Sultan and Ulti are playing like their town selves. I am frustrated with Crescent but don't have a super strong leaning on her one way or the other.

##Vote: Brohan

Oops didn't mean to hit post yet that vote looks weird. Was going to say let's get Brohan back in here and question him instead of doing a "choose between the lesser of three evils" vote.

"The enemy of my enemy is also my enemy" - Ulti, 2023

Ulti, Death and I both asked separately for you to give thoughts on Brohans early Page 3 vote on me, joining the train you started. Did you have any feelings on Brohan one way or the other?

EDumey posted...

If I had to pick one of Ulti, Sultan, or Crescent to vote for right now. It'd probably be Crescent. I have individual reasons for thinking Sultan and Ulti are playing like their town selves. I am frustrated with Crescent but don't have a super strong leaning on her one way or the other.

##Vote: Brohan

This post feels spineless and lacking proper justification for anything it says

UltimaterializerX posted...

Asking for a host check, please stand by.

I really hate this post too, by the way. Ulti gloated so much over me not reading my pm last game, but he waited what, 2.5 days to ask the host to clarify something? Whack.

UltimaterializerX posted...

I literally do not know wtf my role is or does

UltimaterializerX posted...

Actually hold on. I have two traits. One is Im a cat.

Literally. Meow and such. You guys can argue over whatever the fuck the other one is after I flip because holy shit.

Ulti might be town based on how he went about this. I'm not fully caught up yet but i struggle to understand why he goes about it this way if scum. Sounds like he genuinely didn't read his role PM in full because it was complicated. If he was scum, He would have known every detail about his PM ahead of time and exactly how to navigate the whole traits thing before jumping into it. He's more likely to be confused town here than confused scum. The progression of posts reads natural enough to not be a bit.

There might be something in Sultan and Ulti both claiming the same trait, but i dont know what it is yet

For me it's the opposite. I struggle to see how he goes through his progression as town.

Crescent-Moon posted...

This post feels spineless and lacking proper justification for anything it says

I have literally justified it all in previous posts that I'm too lazy to reiterate while phone posting at lunch. I have a long post about Ulti's behavior and how I read him as mostly reaction testing until several days into the game. I think his behavior even now with the frenzied role discussion fits into that. He's happy to create chaos and see what comes from it. I talked about Sultan's behavior earlier, and was the only person to give him a town leaning when multiple people were suspecting him earlier in the day. I've had MULTIPLE posts about how I'm struggling with your alignment, and getting my personal frustrations involved. All of this is literally in the game if you just look back through the last topic.

Incredibly lazy to say I have no proper justification. It's what I've been saying the whole day, and finally putting action with a vote saying I'm not happy with any of the three directions.

When have I ever tunneled you this game? All I did was try to find clarity your several inane comments about your supposed role.

Ulti answer my f***ing question. It's not too much to ask for you to go back and read just Page 3 of Topic 1 and give a quick summary of your thoughts on Brohan's vote.

EDumey posted...

Wallz do you still want me dead or have you just not bothered moving your vote during all this Ulti talk?

Id be lying if I said I havent come close to moving my vote but that doesnt say anything about my feelings towards you. You have not done anything to undo my first impression.

EDumey posted...

Ulti answer my f***ing question. It's not too much to ask for you to go back and read just Page 3 of Topic 1 and give a quick summary of your thoughts on Brohan's vote.

Ditto, tho imagine me swearing less

UltimaterializerX posted...

And that wasnt gloating, sorry if it came off that way. Or youre being a jerk on purpose, because I very very clearly said in chat I felt terrible about those modkills.

Gloating is probably the wrong word. Light hearted teasing that had a hint of hope in it is how i interpreted it.

EDumey posted...

I have literally justified it all in previous posts that I'm too lazy to reiterate while phone posting at lunch. I have a long post about Ulti's behavior and how I read him as mostly reaction testing until several days into the game. I think his behavior even now with the frenzied role discussion fits into that.

Heres the million dollar question from me. Has anyone actually seen town ulti as a vanilla do this? I havent

If there's one person my mind has changed on, it's Peaf.

Especially right now. He comes off as frustrated town who is sure Ulti is scum, but also thinks Ulti is going to get away with it.

Heres where Im at, Ulti is 90%+ lying about being vanilla. But is he lying scum or lying town, both are possible.

Vanilla ulti isnt this excited or involved. He also hasnt addressed scum which he loves to do as town

EDumey posted...

I have literally justified it all in previous posts that I'm too lazy to reiterate while phone posting at lunch. I have a long post about Ulti's behavior and how I read him as mostly reaction testing until several days into the game. I think his behavior even now with the frenzied role discussion fits into that. He's happy to create chaos and see what comes from it. I talked about Sultan's behavior earlier, and was the only person to give him a town leaning when multiple people were suspecting him earlier in the day. I've had MULTIPLE posts about how I'm struggling with your alignment, and getting my personal frustrations involved. All of this is literally in the game if you just look back through the last topic.

Incredibly lazy to say I have no proper justification. It's what I've been saying the whole day, and finally putting action with a vote saying I'm not happy with any of the three directions.

I like this post from Dumey. Honestly Ive just liked most of what Ive seen from Dumey this morning.

Very okay with the Brohan pressure, though Im sure this is probably like, setting us up to b8 special red today or something after waiting 4 hours for brohan to show up

Please don't put words in my mouth. I'm not sure about anything :)

wallmasterz posted...

Id be lying if I said I havent come close to moving my vote but that doesnt say anything about my feelings towards you. You have not done anything to undo my first impression.

wallmasterz posted...

In theory I agree with you about not letting a miller claim go unquestioned but the way you went about it felt scummy. For now at least,

##Vote: Dumey

Dumey, what are your impressions so far? Youve been in defense mode since your opening post with good reason. But lets get some thoughts from you beyond just that.

This one, King? We've had a LOT of discussion about traits since then, and I've clarified why I wanted to poke around them a bit more. Knowing what we know about how active traits are explicitly spelled out, but passive traits may not be explicitly spelled out, does that make you curious about Red's confident Miller claim, even though Miller is something that would probably be classified as passive, and not have an explicit "You are guilty to scanners" message associated with it?
Even if you don't agree with the conclusion I eventually came to, is it so odd that knowing that I have a trait I'm confused about whether or not is flavor or passive, does that make sense why I was interested in asking questions of a Miller?

I just feel like we've had SO much conversation about these topics that it's strange that your opinion wouldn't have updated at all so far.

Chaeix posted...

I like this post from Dumey. Honestly Ive just liked most of what Ive seen from Dumey this morning.

Very okay with the Brohan pressure, though Im sure this is probably like, setting us up to b8 special red today or something after waiting 4 hours for brohan to show up

I will not allow a Red lynch.

PeaceFrog posted...

Please don't put words in my mouth. I'm not sure about anything :)

All I said is it's how you come off.

wallmasterz posted...

Heres the million dollar question from me. Has anyone actually seen town ulti as a vanilla do this? I havent

I don't think Ulti knows whether he's vanilla or not. So this could be an Ulti that came into the game thinking he was unlynchable or something.

Also I don't think so poorly of Ulti that he is incapable of playing the game as a Vanilla. Sure he gets more excited when he's not, but let's not pretend that he can't put in effort as flavorful vanilla.

Dumey, I almost claimed Miller last game even though i thought i wouldn't scan guilty until i accessed dtc, not beforehand. But regardless, any intelligent player being told "hey you scan as not solo queue to an alignment scanner" would probably interpret that as equivalent to Miller, and claim as much without the extra verbosity in their first post.

wallmasterz posted...

Heres the million dollar question from me. Has anyone actually seen town ulti as a vanilla do this? I havent

I mean there are extenuating circumstances if he isnt lying

Chaeix posted...

I like this post from Dumey. Honestly Ive just liked most of what Ive seen from Dumey this morning.

Very okay with the Brohan pressure, though Im sure this is probably like, setting us up to b8 special red today or something after waiting 4 hours for brohan to show up

Crescent-Moon posted...

I will not allow a Red lynch.

I also would advise against lynching Red until we get some confirmation about passive. I think if we get to day 3 or something and have multiple town flips with NO EXPLICITLY STATED passive, then we can lynch him for sure. But I'm not taking that gambit right now.