Board 8 > Dead by Daylight Mafia Topic 1: Happy Halloween!

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Leafeon13N posted...

Honestly, just woke up a little grumpy and i wanted to sleep in.

ok that's fair.

I'm not really concerned just thought it was funny how many posts had "sbell" in them and normally that means I'm dead soon and rightfully so since I'm always scum in those situations.

I'm lost, when did i say survivor.

And reading that Isquen post, its sounds like he is saying if you are a Survivor or Killer it has has no bearing on alignement in this mafia game.

PunishedBen posted...

Alright Sultan, you didn't really answer my question about your Wallz vote, so I will phrase it in a new way.

POST #126

POST #186

Please show me the post between #126 and #186 that made you go from "Sbell has said nothing" and "Sbell town"

Posts in the like 150s Sbell became significantly more active between those post Ben

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Wallz post 335 is a good point.

Ben just admitted that scum would know that town was being called Survivors

Sultan saying this does make me want to kill him less....I think? >_>

Idk,. Sultan, if you are town then shouldnt you know that Town is not called Survivors?

Dampnare

What a coincidence, that was my Latin-major ex-girlfriends little pet name for me. She always said it during little squabbles, like oh you!

We didnt last.

PunishedBen posted...

Sultan saying this does make me want to kill him less....I think? >_>

Idk,. Sultan, if you are town then shouldnt you know that Town is not called Survivors?
Am I reading to much into the opening? It makes it look like it's killers vs survivors which makes sense but I also do not know this flavor.
SOLO QUEUE is listed as town but my role PM also mentions Survivor

Lol got to love when quotes get all messed up

Crescent-Moon posted...

Who are those again

Without the wall this time~

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Ashe
Peaf
Ben
Wall

(Some more or less a poe and not fitting into my town veiw)

She said without the Wall

(Wall impression)

PunishedBen posted...

She said without the Wall

(Wall impression)

Bro as in a wall post, not a list without including wall

:)

*slow clap*

I have my own thoughts but would like to get some opinions from others first. Is it weird Sultan brought the term survivor into that conversation? Does it mean nothing? Does sultan just really like destinys child?

Crescent-Moon posted...

It's easy to be confident when he knows they're not scum~

I am confident that I am capable of being this confident every game

they've done studies ya know, sixty percent of the time im confident every time.

wallmasterz posted...

*slow clap*

I have my own thoughts but would like to get some opinions from others first. Is it weird Sultan brought the term survivor into that conversation? Does it mean nothing? Does sultan just really like destinys child?

Survivors vs killers would be the most standard way to do the flavor split, right?
So it does sound like something that could slip from scum if that is the split.

But Sultan did also remind me that the OP said the word 'survivor' a lot.

htaeD posted...

But Sultan did also remind me that the OP said the word 'survivor' a lot.

This assumes sultan read the OP and also, he said he got the term from his role pm

htaeD posted...

Survivors vs killers would be the most standard way to do the flavor split, right?
So it does sound like something that could slip from scum if that is the split.

Killer side is also solo queue. So I would be wary of meta.

If you go back and look I've mentioned the OP alot
And yes it also mentions in my PM the term Survivor

wallmasterz posted...

*slow clap*

I have my own thoughts but would like to get some opinions from others first. Is it weird Sultan brought the term survivor into that conversation? Does it mean nothing? Does sultan just really like destinys child?

I think there could be some slight confusion in people interchangably using Survivor to refer to Third Party, and Sultan reading Survivor as a Dead By Daylight specific terminology and assuming all town are survivors flavor wise.

But I don't think Sultan was the first to actually say Survivor. IIRC SBell in his very first post specified Survivor and not just some other Third Party.

EDumey posted...

SBell in his very first post specified Survivor and not just some other Third Party.

correct. because upon seeing Solo Queue I assumed independent survivor.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Scum should shoot SBell just for the comedy factor since we all know hes town this game.

their call.

Obellisk posted...

correct. because upon seeing Solo Queue I assumed independent survivor.

Yeah I understood. Just saying that I don't think Sultan pulled up the term out of nowhere, or because it was on some scum board or something. It's plastered all over this game.

Leafeon13N posted...

Killer side is also solo queue. So I would be wary of meta.

Oh
well then strike my theory down.
Sultan seems to have a different justification for mentioning survivors anyway.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

I feel I've got you on this as well. Maybe you use such a language it makes you sound like you know more info than we do.

Towniest thing you've said so far, to feel you have that perspective. Again, if we can find the game where this was true i will unvote you

PunishedBen posted...

Towniest thing you've said so far, to feel you have that perspective. Again, if we can find the game where this was true i will unvote you

Lol I looked at the one game I thought f2021 and we were both town if I'm looking correctly

Death I have an inexplicable feeling you're scum this game.

Thats unfortunate.

It is inexplicable. I cannot explic it.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Lol I looked at the one game I thought f2021 and we were both town if I'm looking correctly

Fine I will help....is it possible you felt this in Paper Mario mafia? I was definitely scum that game and using my insider knowledge to go on tangents about Hidden Powers

PunishedBen posted...

Fine I will help....is it possible you felt this in Paper Mario mafia? I was definitely scum that game and using my insider knowledge to go on tangents about Hidden Powers

That is also possible but I also murdered super quick in paper Mario

wallmasterz posted...

*slow clap*

I have my own thoughts but would like to get some opinions from others first. Is it weird Sultan brought the term survivor into that conversation? Does it mean nothing? Does sultan just really like destinys child?

Well if I'm following right, he's claimed that he thought Survivor was the name of the town faction because that's in his PM. Might explain why he had such a different reaction to the whole "SOLO QUEUE" thing. Or its the perfect cover up he just stumbled into. But either way I feel like that's enough info out of him that I am satisficed to not press on it harder

I will be honest and say I also got curious enough to look it up for myself
But searching through the logs is hell right now and all I learned so far is that TMI is not a helpful search term

EDumey posted...

It is inexplicable. I cannot explic it.

Oh give it time and it will pass.

EDumey posted...

Death I have an inexplicable feeling you're scum this game.

EDumey posted...

It is inexplicable. I cannot explic it.

I think that is just death lol

UltimaterializerX posted... My scum tell (pocketing friends and backing off of them asap while ignoring all of my teammates) is so hilariously easy and I do it on purpose. Well that and just open wolfing all game without ever dying unless Lea or Crescent are around.

I know I technically lost last game but it was fun getting endgamed as scum. I think it was the first time ever, and Sheeps kind words after were really sweet. Love that guy.

Also we really can murder Dumey. Blatant rolefishing and with how this game clearly works there should be no reason to.

Blade had no idea what he originally called the role and blatantly ripped off Pineapple Vendor from me.

The legend of Pineapple Vendor grows!

htaeD posted...

I will be honest and say I also got curious enough to look it up for myself
But searching through the logs is hell right now and all I learned so far is that TMI is not a helpful search term

Oh give it time and it will pass.

I don't really remember us referring to it as TMI before. More just calling it a perspective slip, because of them having more info that they should have access to as town.

Crescent-Moon posted...

Blade had no idea what he originally called the role and blatantly ripped off Pineapple Vendor from me.

The legend of Pineapple Vendor grows!

Hail the Pineapple

UltimaterializerX posted... Dumey hides being an easily caught scum player with lots and lots and lots of words. Cut through those and hes easy to figure out.

Also.

recruiter/neighborizer/backup.
Strongman/Poison
Redirection
Roleblocking
Role stealing
Any form for kidnapping/commuting
Any fringe case other categories
Regular killing

Roleblocking is way too low and is undoubtedly a weird town trap.

Strongman and Poison being bunched together just makes zero sense in general because strongman is a role modifier and poison is an actual role.

I'm not going to look too deeply into it right now.

I feel like almost every post I missed is back on the Solo Queue meta topic zzz

To rehash the 3 people I addressed as scum earlier:

I think Ben is scummy because of basically everything he did the first half of this topic.

I think Dumey is scummy based on his awful entry and his fishing of Red. This was later followed by an attempt to deflect the reason I voted him in the first place.

I think Peaf is scummy because of the way he's both nondescript called Ben scum, but tried to turn other people into scumbuddies of Ben's without ever directly addressing these other people. The moment I said I town leaned one of these other Peaf, Peaf immediately tried to stop my townlean.

I don't care about all this solo queue crap honestly.

I disagree with that characterization. I didn't try to deflect your reason for voting for me. I was drilling into whether your read on Red was dependent on my alignment or not. Which you addressed and reiterated that it was not.

Crescent-Moon posted...

To rehash the 3 people I addressed as scum earlier:

I think Ben is scummy because of basically everything he did the first half of this topic.

I think Dumey is scummy based on his awful entry and his fishing of Red. This was later followed by an attempt to deflect the reason I voted him in the first place.

I think Peaf is scummy because of the way he's both nondescript called Ben scum, but tried to turn other people into scumbuddies of Ben's without ever directly addressing these other people. The moment I said I town leaned one of these other Peaf, Peaf immediately tried to stop my townlean.

I don't care about all this solo queue crap honestly.

2 out of 3 of those reads came out of the solo queue crap so its not the worst thing ever.

Early on you said Sultan looks stiff. Do you think Sultan looks better, worse, or the same in his responses to me these last few pages?

Recent Sultan feels like he's tryharding. Not sure what I make of it yet, as I've seen him do it as both alignments.

Also Sultan is absolutely the kind of player to go tryhard after being called out as feeling stiff and distant.

Quick glance at some of the "under the radar" people for me, personally, IMO, from my perspective.

FD I don't think has even posted yet. Is it usually polite to wait at least 24 hours before asking for a mod poke to at least make sure he knows the game started?

Corrik gave a "See you D2" post sheeping early Ulti.

Ashethan I'm not sure what vibe check he failed from Ulti early on? Was Ulti just poking a returning player to see if they panic? Because if so, Ashethan did not flinch for even a moment. Then volunteered a fresh examination if Wallz. Seemed genuine attempt to find something. Don't know enough about Ashethan to know one way or the other, but seems okay.

JC came in fired up and made some bold reads but we'll probably have to see more from him tonight.

Brohan came in and voted me. Actually looking back at that post, I don't really like how he just quoted a second post of mine and said he didn't like it, without any kind of explanation as to what about it. I don't think anyone else took umbrage with that post either. Kind of feels like a bandwagon vote, but not sure if I only feel that because he's voting me.

Maybe IGCD should be here too, but I feel like he's been more involved just from people referencing those beginning posts so much.

Crescent-Moon posted...

I think Peaf is scummy because of the way he's both nondescript called Ben scum, but tried to turn other people into scumbuddies of Ben's without ever directly addressing these other people. The moment I said I town leaned one of these other Peaf, Peaf immediately tried to stop my townlean.

You're fine to feel this way but I dispute that I've been nondescript in calling Ben scum, and also that you think i gave any shits at all about one of your town leans. You're not the center of my universe, and frankly i wasn't aware that voicing suspicion on someone that you think is town is so frowned upon that you can't possibly believe a town would ever do so and risk your wrath.

Ulti make and share a new read based on existing content.

Please

Meanwhile I am now starting to worry that maybe Sbell threw his 'survivor story' out there just to fish for info from people.
(as in: a player who got a role like town doctor would obviously not think they were an independent survivor as much as a town nilla)

Possibly just ascribing too much scheming to Sbell here, but if the theory is true than I claim credit for it in postgame.

htaeD posted...

Meanwhile I am now starting to worry that maybe Sbell threw his 'survivor story' out there just to fish for info from people.
(as in: a player who got a role like town doctor would obviously not think they were an independent survivor as much as a town nilla)

Possibly just ascribing too much scheming to Sbell here, but if the theory is true than I claim credit for it in postgame.

Worried Sbell did this but not IGCD?

I dont think there was any recent scumBen/townSultan game actually, and Star Trek Mafia was the only recent scumSultan/townBen game.

So while I didnt look directly at every post, I dont think there is another game where scumSultan accused townBen of TMI.

If anyone else is willing to dive into the logs to find a townSultan example, Xenoblade Mafia and Fuck 2021 Mafia are the most recent townBen/TownSultan games.
But tbh it feels like a chase that has no useful result.