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Necronmon
10/25/23 3:56:09 PM
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https://www.house.gov/feature-stories/2023-10-25-new-speaker-of-the-house

Not sure if this is good or not, if he's radical or moderate.
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10/25/23 3:59:26 PM
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/mike-johnson-january-6-house-speaker-nominee-rcna122081

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Unsuprised_Pika
10/25/23 4:00:37 PM
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Very radical. Vile human being.

-Big Trump Supporter
-Voted to overturn the 2020 election
-Wants national abortion ban
-Wants Gender Affirming care banned
-Wants Obergerfell Overturned
-Opposes aid for Ukraine

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Giant_Aspirin
10/25/23 4:04:00 PM
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mark my words, they WILL claim "cheating" or "rigged election" when they lose in 2024. that's why the GOP establishment has not been critical of those people

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Inohira
10/25/23 4:06:52 PM
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Necronmon posted...
Not sure if this is good or not, if he's radical or moderate.

Radical. Moreso than McCarthy. But possibly less so than Jordan.

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Kolibri_X
10/25/23 4:11:01 PM
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He's a good choice, much better than McCarthy. Big up to Gaetz and Dems for helping get rid of him. If he starts doing RINO shit, Gaetz will bounce him too.

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Dark_twisted
10/25/23 4:12:04 PM
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His politics and ideology is...

- Part of the Regressive Religious Right with close ties to fundamentalist religious groups.
- Early on in his career he was a senior attorney and spokesman for the Alliance Defending Freedom, a Conservative christian legal advocacy group that wants to outlaw abortion and suppress the LGBTQ community. Alliance Defending Freedom is designated a hate group.
- Supports nation wide abortion ban, and an end to legal same sex marriage through the overturning of Obergefell v. Hodges
- Supports restrictions to medical marijuana and refers to it as a "gateway drug"
- Like Emmer, he supported and signed on to Texas v Pennsylvania in an effort to challenge the election results
- He voted to overturn those results in Pennsylvania.
- Supports an end to military aid to Ukraine.
- Johnson has remarked that his career is dedicated to *"defending religious freedom, the sanctity of human life, and biblical values, including the defense of traditional marriage, and other ideals like these when theyve been under assault."*
- As a State Rep he sought to put forth legislation that protected people who discriminated against same sex marriage partners.
- He voted to repeal the ACA
- Proposed cuts to medicaid and social security
- Voted for Trump's tax cut legislation that disproportionately benefitted the wealthy.
- He was 1 out of 147 Republicans to vote to overturn the election results.
- Voted against a January 6 commission
- He reportedly does not even believe in climate change
- One of his committees wrote a statement in support of books on conversion therapy that were recently taken down from Amazon. (So basically a supporter of conversion therapy)
- He has opposed expanding medical marijuana access in his state and in his defense argued specifically that Marijuana can worsen some health conditions like epilepsy. (The context is important, his views on weed are outdated, he refers to weed as a "gateway drug". He fishing for whatever he could find and take out of context to support his rigid stance. A study did find some adverse effects with epileptics, however, CBD/medical marijuana is also used in treatments for epilepsy)
- He voted in favor of Trump's Muslim ban.
- Has campaigned against LGBTQ rights and anti bullying legislation.
- He has supported similar legislation to Florida's "don't say gay" bill.
- Has referred to homosexuality as "unnatural" and a "dangerous lifestyle". He even argued in an editorial in his local Louisiana Newspaper that homosexuality would eventually lead to the destruction of "the entire Democratic system", and the legalization of pedophilia of course.
- While working for the ADF, he supported criminalizing homosexuality.
- He has argued in favor of including prayer and religious expression in public schools.

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luigi33
10/25/23 4:13:23 PM
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Kolibri_X posted...
He's a good choice, much better than McCarthy. Big up to Gaetz and Dems for helping get rid of him. If he starts doing RINO shit, Gaetz will bounce him too.
Yikes, fascist alert.

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Kai_Laguna
10/25/23 4:13:32 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
mark my words, they WILL claim "cheating" or "rigged election" when they lose in 2024. that's why the GOP establishment has not been critical of those people
Unfortunately they are gerrymandering their little, coal-black hearts out where ever they can. So while they'll probably not win the presidency, they might not lose in congress as hard as we'd all like.
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Bass
10/25/23 4:13:57 PM
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Who? Mike Jones.

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luigi33
10/25/23 4:15:22 PM
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Kai_Laguna posted...
Unfortunately they are gerrymandering their little, coal-black hearts out where ever they can. So while they'll probably not win the presidency, they might not lose in congress as hard as we'd all like.
Gerrymandering has been challenged in court this year at a rate never seen before. Also they are losing almost every case that gets brought to court. See: Alabama and Louisiana

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brestugo
10/25/23 4:19:00 PM
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Kolibri_X posted...
He's a good choice, much better than McCarthy. Big up to Gaetz and Dems for helping get rid of him. If he starts doing RINO shit, Gaetz will bounce him too.

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Kai_Laguna
10/25/23 4:20:48 PM
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luigi33 posted...
Gerrymandering has been challenged in court this year at a rate never seen before. Also they are losing almost every case that gets brought to court. See: Alabama and Louisiana
Yes but the courts only move so fast, and they've repeatedly challenged or just outright violated those rulings every time. Combined with just how long it can take to first determine, then instate an actually fair map, the odds are still unfortunately in their favor.
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RCP3_04
10/25/23 4:35:41 PM
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No the odds arent in their favor
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DarthAragorn
10/25/23 4:36:54 PM
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He has the wrong position on essentially everything possible

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Tyranthraxus
10/25/23 4:38:20 PM
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Dark_twisted posted...
His politics and ideology is...

Y'all need to accept those are not "his" politics. Those are official Republican party stances. Anyone in the Republican party who behaves differently is the exception.

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ZMythos
10/25/23 4:46:27 PM
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Necronmon posted...
Not sure if this is good or not, if he's radical or moderate
At this point literally every republican is radical

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luigi33
10/25/23 4:48:44 PM
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Kai_Laguna posted...
Yes but the courts only move so fast,
True, and these challenges aren't "new" They have been in Q for quite some time. They are happening right before the year of the election but have been in Q for a while. These lawyers aren't stupid and know courts move slowly.

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ScazarMeltex
10/25/23 4:49:05 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Y'all need to accept those are not "his" politics. Those are official Republican party stances. Anyone in the Republican party who behaves differently is the exception.
This. There is no such thing as a moderate republican.

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Inohira
10/25/23 4:54:45 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...


Y'all need to accept those are not "his" politics. Those are official Republican party stances. Anyone in the Republican party who behaves differently is the exception.

There's a difference between the ones who are just following the crowd and would relent if Trump lost influence, and the ones devoutly committed to the ideals and ready to push them no matter what.

Johnson is a departure from prior Speakers in that he was actually a fundamental writer of the modern Republican playbook, instead of just following it at political gunpoint. He was Ron DeSantis before DeSantis was relevant. McCarthy needed 15 ballots to get MAGA to vote for him, Johnson needed 1; they know what he's about.

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Frosted_Midna
10/25/23 5:53:38 PM
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Time
10/25/23 6:29:39 PM
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From his acceptance speech he sounds like a religious fanatic.

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Kradek
10/25/23 6:34:32 PM
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I've been hearing details about him.

A legitimate Christo-fascist whose positions mirror that of a Christian Iran.

McCarthy was probably the most tolerable person they could have had as Speaker.

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Block_that_Kick
10/25/23 6:48:31 PM
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They had their chance to vote for a moderate. They instead went with Fred Waterford.

They are going into 2024 on the platform of using God as a weapon to do whatever the fuck they want. More specially, ban abortion and gay marriage, and cheat in elections.

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El_Marsh
10/25/23 6:50:43 PM
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Fucking swamp puppy smh

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creativerealms
10/25/23 6:52:42 PM
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He's a radical. He's Jim Jordan without the history of protecting a sexual abuser.

Unless he has done that too.

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creativerealms
10/25/23 6:53:42 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
mark my words, they WILL claim "cheating" or "rigged election" when they lose in 2024. that's why the GOP establishment has not been critical of those people
What can the house do? It's the vice president that certifies the election.

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Block_that_Kick
10/25/23 6:59:10 PM
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Kolibri_X posted...
He's a good choice, much better than McCarthy. Big up to Gaetz and Dems for helping get rid of him. If he starts doing RINO shit, Gaetz will bounce him too.

So what exactly makes him better? We would like to know.

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creativerealms
10/25/23 7:01:04 PM
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Block_that_Kick posted...
So what exactly makes him better? We would like to know.
If he thinks McCarthy is a Rino then "better" means worse for America, good for Trump and his cult.


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Doom_Art
10/25/23 7:02:34 PM
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Kolibri_X posted...
He's a good choice, much better than McCarthy. Big up to Gaetz and Dems for helping get rid of him. If he starts doing RINO shit, Gaetz will bounce him too.
Conservatives coping hard rn lol

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Charged151
10/25/23 7:05:04 PM
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At least off to a good start.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/house-approves-resolution-backing-israel-212700259.html

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Kradek
10/25/23 7:09:24 PM
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Charged151 posted...
At least off to a good start.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/house-approves-resolution-backing-israel-212700259.html

This was never in doubt. You might as well give him credit for not catching his dick in his zipper.

Also, let's see how good even this is because I anticipate him shoving his Christo-fascist ideals into everything he proposes.

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BlueTigerLion
10/25/23 7:14:31 PM
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Frosted_Midna posted...
https://imgur.com/gallery/Ib6Yvvy
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So why did Dems vote to remove McCarthy to get someone worse?

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creativerealms
10/25/23 7:18:20 PM
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BlueTigerLion posted...
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So why did Dems vote to remove McCarthy to get someone worse?
It was eight republicans who voted to remove McCarthy. Democrats shouldn't have to save his ass when all he did was insult him.

Republicans are the majority they don't need democrat help. McCarthy wouldn't piss on a Democrat if he or she was on fire.

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rideshort
10/25/23 7:20:17 PM
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Necronmon posted...
https://www.house.gov/feature-stories/2023-10-25-new-speaker-of-the-house

Not sure if this is good or not, if he's radical or moderate.

Allow me to help you out. Watch this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOTZgugbHAo

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luigi33
10/25/23 7:23:44 PM
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Charged151 posted...
At least off to a good start.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/house-approves-resolution-backing-israel-212700259.html
they better not be bitch babies when Senate sends them over the bill that includes Ukraine+Israel then.

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luigi33
10/25/23 7:24:54 PM
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BlueTigerLion posted...
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So why did Dems vote to remove McCarthy to get someone worse?
Dems voted to get their guy in. In No way should they be obligated to help Republicans. Fuck them. The worst more embarrassing the Speaker is, the more it scares the general populace come election time.

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Charged151
10/25/23 7:25:41 PM
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luigi33 posted...
they better not be bitch babies when Senate sends them over the bill that includes Ukraine+Israel then.
Call me optimistic, but I think it will get passed.

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Tyranthraxus
10/25/23 7:25:50 PM
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BlueTigerLion posted...
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So why did Dems vote to remove McCarthy to get someone worse?

Johnson isn't worse than McCarthy. They're all magas.

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Kradek
10/25/23 7:28:05 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Johnson isn't worse than McCarthy. They're all magas.

He absolutely is.

Johnson is a true-believer Christo-fascist that wants to turn this country into a Christian version of Iran. McCarthy is just an empty suit who will be whatever he needs to be at the moment to benefit him. Having no convictions is better compared to convictions based around Christo-fascism.

Also, McCarthy supported funding Ukraine, Johnson doesn't, that alone makes him worse.

They may all be MAGA, however there's varying degrees of MAGA.


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mistymermaid
10/25/23 7:41:19 PM
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Kradek posted...
He absolutely is.

Johnson is a true-believer Christo-fascist that wants to turn this country into a Christian version of Iran. McCarthy is just an empty suit who will be whatever he needs to be at the moment to benefit him. Having no convictions is better compared to convictions based around Christo-fascism.

Also, McCarthy supported funding Ukraine, Johnson doesn't, that alone makes him worse.

They may all be MAGA, however there's varying degrees of MAGA.

Their whole side has gone that far down the commode. At this stage, even self-identifying as generically "Christian" is virtually indistinguishable from MAGA.

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Smackems
10/25/23 7:43:12 PM
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Unsuprised_Pika posted...
Very radical. Vile human being.

-Big Trump Supporter
-Voted to overturn the 2020 election
-Wants national abortion ban
-Wants Gender Affirming care banned
-Wants Obergerfell Overturned
-Opposes aid for Ukraine
What is this?

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Necronmon
10/25/23 7:45:14 PM
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Obergefell v. Hodges, 576 U.S. 644, is a landmark decision of the Supreme Court of the United States which ruled that the fundamental right to marry is guaranteed to same-sex couples by both the Due Process Clause and the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution.

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Kradek
10/25/23 7:47:19 PM
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Smackems posted...
What is this?

Obergefell is the ruling that stopped states from denying same-sex marriage licenses.

Kim Davis became famous for violating this ruling.

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mistymermaid
10/25/23 7:47:57 PM
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Necronmon posted...
Obergefell v. Hodges, 576 U.S. 644, is a landmark decision of the Supreme Court of the United States which ruled that the fundamental right to marry is guaranteed to same-sex couples by both the Due Process Clause and the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution.

He wants to ban same sex marriages.

Ow. I may not be too fond of the concept of institutionalized marriage.
But restricting it based on gender identity is shit.

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Fenriswolf
10/25/23 7:48:38 PM
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Charged151 posted...
At least off to a good start.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/house-approves-resolution-backing-israel-212700259.html

LOL you mean a far right politician backing another far right government while pretending that the latter cutting off food and water to civilians is somehow not as bad?

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mistymermaid
10/25/23 7:51:08 PM
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Fenriswolf posted...
LOL you mean a far right politician backing another far right government while pretending that the latter cutting off food and water to civilians is somehow not as bad?

The GOP's fixation on kowtowing to Israel is almost funny, except we know how antisemitic the party really is.

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SimulationSwarm
10/25/23 7:52:19 PM
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mistymermaid posted...
The GOP's fixation on kowtowing to Israel is almost funny, except we know how antisemitic the party really is.
It aint just the GOP that kowtows to Israel

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Smackems
10/25/23 7:52:51 PM
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Kradek posted...
Obergefell is the ruling that stopped states from denying same-sex marriage licenses.

Kim Davis became famous for violating this ruling.
Oh. I don't like this fella

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