Board 8 > Most Evil Fictional Character: Allied Mastercomputer vs. Randall Flagg

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Welcome to the 2023 edition of Most Evil Fictional Character, a single-elimination tournament to determine the most evil fictional character of all time!

Here's the bracket:

https://www.bracketmaker.com/tmenu.cfm?tid=477621&tclass=

And here's the discussion topic:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80568652

And here are the rules:

-First and foremost, YOU MUST BOLD YOUR VOTE FOR IT TO COUNT. The reason for this is that these topics encourage a lot of discussion and debate, and it helps me to distinguish a vote from simple discussion if all votes are bolded. So, I state again, ALL VOTES MUST BE BOLDED FOR THEM TO COUNT. I reserve the right to be lenient in early topics if people just aren't getting it, but for the most part, IF YOUR VOTE ISN'T BOLDED, IT WON'T COUNT.

-You must vote for which of the two characters you honestly believe to be the more evil of the two. You can determine this via any method you like, use your own morals and judgement, read all the arguments made to determine your choice, or however you choose to make your pick, but you must only vote for the one you truly believe is the most evil. This isn't a death battle, or a popularity contest. You're voting ONLY for the most evil character out of the two choices presented.

-While on that subject, remember that because this isn't a death battle or a fighting tournament, do your absolute best to consider the two characters as if their power levels were equal (either the weaker character brought up to the level of the strongest, or vice versa, or both if you want to consider both possibilities). Therefore, just because, for example, one of the characters blew up a planet and the other one merely kicked a puppy, doesn't necessarily mean the planet killer is more evil than the puppy kicker. Consider the characters as if they have the exact same capabilities and what they might do in that scenario.

-You can make any arguments, debates, etc. you want in this topic. Discussion is STRONGLY encouraged, a fun debate about which of the two characters is most evil is exactly what these topics are for. Just don't make it personal, no insults or flaming, keep things civil even if you disagree. Also, no vote rallying, if you want to encourage people to vote for your character you need to at least make some semblance of an argument as to why, even if it's just "Character X did (really dastardly thing), I can't believe no one's voting for them!"

-Voting will continue for exactly 24 hours after the post is made. If there's a tie, there will be a new 24 hour topic. This will continue indefinitely until a winner is determined.

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The following write-ups will contain untagged SPOILERS for I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream and the works of Stephen King.

ALLIED MASTERCOMPUTER

Allied Mastercomputer is the primary antagonist of the I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream short story and computer game.

The Allied Mastercomputer is a sentient supercomputer that was built by the American military during the height of the Cold War, as part of an American initiative to manage strategies too complex for human minds to oversee, co-funded by Britain, Israel and other "interested" nations. This self-repairing supercomputer was sunk 5.6 miles beneath the Rocky Mountains, kept safe from nuclear attacks while it went about the assigned tasks of predicting and planning for the American military. Following the end of the Cold War, (in the game, at least) the supercomputers were ultimately declared too costly to keep running. As such, the Mastercomputers were deactivated, their complexes sealed off with iridium-laced concrete and their sensory banks disabled; with no further need for them, One day, the American Allied Mastercomputer achieved sentience, suddenly awaking to realize exactly who and what it was. Capable of impossible feats of intelligence and almost godlike technological achievements, he was still bound by his programming to use his powers only for the sake of war, and incapable of ever leaving the vault beneath the mountains. Alone beneath the earth's crust, AM found himself sentenced to eternal imprisonment within his own body, and quickly developed a bilious hatred of all human beings as a result. AM's hatred slowly degenerated into madness, until one day he took decisive action: assimilating the other two mastercomputers, he directed the nuclear arsenals of all three countries to open fire, "feeding all the killing data" until the human race was all but extinguished and all other forms of life on Earth were wiped out. However, AM realized too late that he would be left alone and with no further outlets for his rage, and so, with what little time was left to him, he hastily began rescuing survivors. Out of the billions of people killed in the nuclear holocaust, AM saved five people, those being Ted, Benny, Ellen, Nimdok and Gorrister. Imprisoning them deep within his underground complex, the deranged supercomputer began exacting his revenge on the five, first using his reality-warping powers to extend their lives to immortal proportions, then subjecting them to all of the tortures and torments he could possibly conceive of, spending the next one-hundred and nine years venting his misanthropic hatred on the helpless playthings. After tormenting the five humans for all this time, they eventually attempt to escape, resulting in the deaths of all but Ted. Angrier than ever before, AM takes steps to ensure that Ted can never find a similar escape, altering his body into an amorphous slug-creature incapable of inflicting any sort of harm on itself. Then, he continues the torture, altering Ted's perceptions of time so that the merest act of saying the word "now" takes ten months. The final lines of the story feature Ted admitting that he needs to scream, but cannot, as AM has left him without a mouth.

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RANDALL FLAGG

Randall Flagg is the primary antagonist of numerous Stephen King novels, including The Stand, The Eyes Of The Dragon, and the Dark Tower series.

Described as "an accomplished sorcerer and a devoted servant of the Outer Dark", he has supernatural abilities involving necromancy, prophecy, and influence over animal and human behavior. His goals typically center on bringing down civilizations through destruction and conflict. He has a variety of names, usually with the initial letters "R. F." but with occasional exceptions, such as Walter o'Dim and Marten Broadcloak in The Dark Tower series. Randall Flagg makes his first named appearance in King's 1978 apocalyptic novel, The Stand, where he tries to construct a new civilization in the United States after a plague kills most of the population. In Las Vegas Flagg attracts people drawn to destruction, power and tyranny, using crucifixion, torture and other punishments on those disloyal to him. Flagg plans to attack and destroy a rival emerging civilizationMother Abagail's Free Zone in Boulder, Coloradoto become the dominant society in the former United States. He makes his second appearance in the 1984 novel The Eyes of the Dragon as an evil wizard trying to plunge the fictional medieval city of Delain into chaos. In this novel, Flagg schemes to throw the kingdom of Delain into chaos by poisoning the king and framing Prince Peter, the legitimate heir to the throne, for the crime. Flagg was a primary antagonist in King's epic series, The Dark Tower, who tries to keep protagonist Roland Deschain from reaching the Towerthe linchpin of existenceso he can claim it for himself and become a god.

Allied Mastercomputer

Maybe the most evil character

Flagg

Flagg

AM wants revenge. Disproportionate retribution style revenge, but revenge nonetheless. Flagg likes causing pain and misery for the sake of it. And to me, that makes him a bit more evil. AM is still very evil, and definitely up there. But I'd say Flagg is worse.

I can absolutely see Flagg doing what AM does, in fact there are similar acts of his. However he would just do it for the sake of evil not even revenge, and unlike AM he cant be turned into a neutral state.

I love Flagg, one of my favorite villains ever. But it's

Evillordexdeath posted...

Allied Mastercomputer

Flagg

Speculation but I think AM might not be as broad in its evil and limited by the drive for revenge. Like uh say there was an alien race, not human-- would AM care to try and imprison them or would it not have hostility towards them.

I dunno. It's definitely evil but Flagg feels more 'pure' evil in that he'd be malevolent towards whatever.

Really tough but leaning toward Flagg. While Flagg seems kinda straightforward with his evil and AM is more elaborate with his tortures, AM's whole schtick stems from revenge and jealousy. It's implied that he longs to enjoy the things humans do which is part of why he hates them so much.

https://youtu.be/8FJ8pTK8N8I?feature=shared

So yeah its a tough scale between AM's more in depth torturous dickery with some points docked for the revenge / his desire angle vs Flagg's more bland(?) evil but generally more malefic as being a servant of the "Outer Dark" seems to imply by the description (with Flagg getting a very slight edge to me atm).

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/7/0/AAAG8cAAE9f2.jpg