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Crescent-Moon
10/19/23 3:34:39 PM
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https://ibb.co/Mk2zkPg

He took this picture a little while ago while she was laying on top of him. Behold her majesty <3

Ctes has been Photobombed. He was Guy on the Right, MAFIA Frameblocker

A legend of the community, and potentially a god among men, everyone far and wide knows your name. You witnessed a moment of depravity and you snapped, and now you must stop it from happening ever again, whatever the cost. They will come to rue the day they accidentally brought you into their lives, and with just a picture, you clearly take the center stage.

You are Guy on the Right, MAFIA Frameblocker.

Every night, you may choose one player to both roleblock and plant evidence on.

Death has won the game! He was "Pineapple Vendor", INDEPENDENT Coupon Dealer

You masquerade as a simple vendor of pineapples, but you hide a much more sinister secret... Maybe. You have a bounty to share, and share it you do. You just believe the world needs a better sense of order, and try to give it order you do... But beware, you might just end up unleashing all sorts of chaos instead. All you have to do is get them all to... Behave.

You are "Pineapple Vendor", INDEPENDENT Coupon Dealer

During every DAY, you may give one player a coupon, which they receive at the start of the night phase. You are also immune to being killed during the day. The player will not know they have been given the coupon until the beginning of the night phase. They will be given the choice of whether they wish to redeem the coupon or not, and different coupons have different expiration dates. Each coupon can only be used once. A player cannot use a normal night action and one of your coupons in the same night.

If all living players have been given a coupon, even if they went unused, your technology will.. "correct" them all, you will establish your perfect order, and you will win the game.

Your coupons are as follows:

A gun: Expires the same day. The player will be given a choice to shoot someone that night, and that night only.

A camera: The player may use this item on the night you give it to them, or the night after. The camera allows them to both track and watch a target.

Goggles: The player may use this item on the night you give it to them, or up to two nights after. The goggles do nothing, but they will not be told this.

Duplicator - The player may use this item on the day you give it to them, or the day after. This allows them to doublevote exactly one time. The votes may be on different players.

Gavel - The player may use this item on the night you give it to them, or the night after. The day following it's use, the player may prevent the lynch of the day, even if they are the one lynched.

Bulletproof Vest - The player may use this item on the night you give it to them, or the night after. This will render them bulletproof for only the night it is used.

Telecommunicator - The player may use this item on the night you give it to them only. The player may talk in the topic during the night phase.

Teleporter - The player may use this item on the night you give it to them only. They may bus drive themselves and another player (The player given the coupon must be one of the targets).

Smoke Bomb - The player you give this coupon to will be informed they have been roleblocked at the beginning of the night phase.

Cardboard box - Instead of giving out a coupon, you may elect to hide in a cardboard box, becoming bulletproof for the following night.

Ulti has been endgamed. He was Tohru Adachi, MAFIA Jsck of All Godfathers

It's all a game to you. You're a puppetmaster who joined the police force just so you could legally carry a gun. You present yourself as a bumbling clown, but you also leave little hints as you lead the sheep, because it's fun. You have various ways to manipulate information at your disposal. Sure there's some chance you could get caught, but it'd be boring if there wasn't!

You are Tohru Adachi, MAFIA Jack of all Godfathers

You have three active abilities you can use one time each, and one passive ability.

Police Immunity - All roles related to law enforcement will give false negative results on you.

In the Shadows - All roles that detect movement will fail to catch you performing an action

TV World - You spend the night in the TV world, becoming bulletproof for the night.

Additionally, you have a passive ability. You will see a partially redacted result from all police-related roles every night.

Sheep has been endgamed. He was Vanillish, TOWN Vanilla.

You are Vanillish, TOWN Vanilla.

BCT has been endgamed. He was Zuul, TOWN Vanilla

You believe yourself to be a hero. You believe that you have the power to save everyone. You're going to wait until night falls, and then you're going to save the day for everyone with... Wait what are you going to do again? Unfortunately, you failed to realize one thing: There are no night actions. Only Zuul.

You are Zuul, Town Vanilla.

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Crescent-Moon
10/19/23 3:34:43 PM
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Additional notes: The powerset behind the Looper, Dragon Chaser, Coupon Dealer, and Death Diver were all from the original Blade Mafia 5 setup from several years ago. Blade somehow "lost" the niche weird 18th role to this setup and didn't realize until he was about to send them out, so the role that Plum ended up getting was essentially created on the spot right before launch as a glorified vanilla with niche at best powers. Sheep's flavor was so lazy because SBell made a joke about Blade making lazy flavors as he was writing them up, so Blade decided to change one of the vanillas to the stupidest flavor possible without writing flavor text for it, and hope SBell got it "for the lulz". Personally, I think BCT's flavor text was clever!

Dragon Chaser at max power was immune to virtually everything in the game, except for Sultan's power (and he died day 1). Losing him so early hurt the scumteam a lot more than they realized. Wall's role for example was basically just regular BG at best so long as Dumey lived. Blade really liked this role and was disappointed it died so fast. On the other hand, we were both worried that Death was going to get shot immediately and end up wasting the Indy role, as he wasn't BP.

The PT Cop, Detective, Jailmaster, and potentially the backup qualified as "police roles". Isquen would've received a success message targeting police immune Ulti, who would've bypassed the action. Ulti's passive showed the scumteam all results given to these roles every night so long as he was alive, which is why scum knew IGCD was roleblocked successfully on night 1, as he backed up a "police role". Scum didn't realize for a while that Jailmaster counted. If IGCD used this power on Red, and shot anti-town, the compulsive nature of the role would have forced him to shoot again, as a continuation of the power. Red thought there might only be 4 scum since his role near-guaranteed an extra town kill. IGCD could not target a Loopered player, but he could target action-unused Peaf.

Oh and speaking of Looper, Lea couldn't act night 1 because she died day 1. BCT was actually the first person to figure this out. Speaking of the BCT thing: "Roleblocks can be redirected, unless the redirector themself is roleblocked. If a redirector redirects a roleblock onto themselves, it creates a paradox where they were roleblocked, even though the action was technically successful."

Night 1 was an epic disaster for scum. Dumey got caught by Indy+Town combined.. By the only power left in the game that could catch him, on the only night it was capable of catching him. SBell got shot. IGCD was going to scan Ulti as not having access to a private thread, but they blocked him. Generally though, scum must've really really hated neighbors! Shooting neighbors 3 times in 4 nights really ended up narrowing down their options. Red actually thought the scumteam had a bonus incentive for killing neighbors.

All the weird flavor stuff on flips and new topics was all my doing and none of it was pre-planned. I don't really know why I did it, but it was fun, and I liked my last topic~

Neighbor Chat: https://discord.gg/5BPSJEJy
Dead Town Chat: https://discord.gg/W5FHuGfj
Mafia Chat: https://discord.gg/YXpDaBw3

That concludes Blade Mafia 5. Thank you all for playing!

P.S. This was your final boss if it got to the final 3. Feel the terror!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoupKIi1JMQ


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wallmasterz
10/19/23 3:35:42 PM
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Great job Death!

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Crescent-Moon
10/19/23 3:39:48 PM
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Death's targeting of Sheep immediately after shading him for claiming vanilla going unnoticed was a bit of a surprise, I admit. It was a target that reeked of Indy I thought~

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htaeD
10/19/23 3:39:54 PM
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YOU ACTIVATED MY TRAP CARD

Man that took forever

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BlueCrystalTear
10/19/23 3:40:29 PM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
lmao I knew it
And I was starting to get onto you. You still did good, Ulti.

All this said,
Crescent-Moon posted...
If all living players have been given a coupon, even if they went unused, your technology will.. "correct" them all, you will establish your perfect order, and you will win the game.
yeah I wasn't expecting this kind of twist. Or that you had THAT many more powers.

Good work Death! I wasn't ever going to lynch you, and I had no way of winning from that situation. It sucks to be so close and yet so far... but hey I had fun, and I'm honing my craft, right?

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Crescent-Moon
10/19/23 3:41:35 PM
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BlueCrystalTear posted...
And I was starting to get onto you. You still did good, Ulti.

All this said,

yeah I wasn't expecting this kind of twist. Or that you had THAT many more powers.

Good work Death! I wasn't ever going to lynch you, and I had no way of winning from that situation. It sucks to be so close and yet so far... but hey I had fun, and I'm honing my craft, right?
Oh and yes that lazy waste that was day 5 ensured town's loss.

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htaeD
10/19/23 3:42:27 PM
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And yeah Ulti I knew giving you the roleblock was a risk
But I didnt want to let anyone know I could hand out way more items than I had claimed
Independent survivor is alright
Independent with a power like that is pretty sketchy

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htaeD
10/19/23 3:43:08 PM
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Crescent-Moon posted...

Oh and yes that lazy waste that was day 5 ensured town's loss.


Hey it worked for me.
Of course I knew it wasnt Lylo yet

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PeaceFrog
10/19/23 3:43:30 PM
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Congratulations, Death!

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htaeD
10/19/23 3:43:58 PM
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Crescent-Moon posted...
Death's targeting of Sheep immediately after shading him for claiming vanilla going unnoticed was a bit of a surprise, I admit. It was a target that reeked of Indy I thought~


Maybe I should have targeted Red, but the fact that my items hinder night actions was a nice cover for me to hunt scum

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htaeD
10/19/23 3:44:25 PM
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Not the first bizarre Independent victory condition I have achieved.

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BlueCrystalTear
10/19/23 3:45:20 PM
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Crescent-Moon posted...
Oh and yes that lazy waste that was day 5 ensured town's loss.
Yeah, I'm not taking any blame for this one. Peaf and IGCD, however... as well as going after Wall...

Even so Wall tunneling me D1/D2 was pretty bad. Especially when I turned out to be town.

Also literally everything I said about the teleporter was true.

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htaeD
10/19/23 3:45:48 PM
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Of course I also didnt really need to figure out who the final scum was, or even the 3rd scum.
But I am glad I still correctly picked Ctes and didnt let Ulti convince me otherwise.

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Crescent-Moon
10/19/23 3:46:38 PM
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BlueCrystalTear posted...
Yeah, I'm not taking any blame for this one. Peaf and IGCD, however... as well as going after Wall...

Even so Wall tunneling me D1/D2 was pretty bad. Especially when I turned out to be town.

Also literally everything I said about the teleporter was true.
There are no night actions. Only Zuul.

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PeaceFrog
10/19/23 3:47:39 PM
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htaeD posted...
Maybe I should have targeted Red, but the fact that my items hinder night actions was a nice cover for me to hunt scum
Yeah, you being able to hunt scum meant that you didn't trigger my scumtell on you until well after i was dead (and was told there was an indy, but didn't have other informed details).

You played the role well.

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Forceful_Dragon
10/19/23 3:47:42 PM
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Crescent-Moon posted...
"Roleblocks can be redirected, unless the redirector themself is roleblocked. If a redirector redirects a roleblock onto themselves, it creates a paradox where they were roleblocked, even though the action was technically successful."

For the record I still disagree with this in terms of implementation. For one this is why self-bussing is generally not allowed, and for another there are other ways of action-resolution that would not result in a person who successfully acted receiving a roleblocked message. But the less said about this the better I guess.

Also @BlueCrystalTear I legitimately was not making a remark about you as a person. You took what I said to mean I was calling you stupid which was definitely not the case. I'm hoping we can put it behind us.

And I mentioned @ultimaterializerX because of that time where my relationship of 6+ years had just ended, and despite knowing that I was very much upset about that, he made a comment in a mafia game to the effect of "this is why she left you" (or something along those lines). Maybe I'm petty for still feeling badly about it all these years later, but it's my go-to example for someone being absurdly personal in a mafia game.

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PeaceFrog
10/19/23 3:50:04 PM
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BlueCrystalTear posted...
Yeah, I'm not taking any blame for this one. Peaf and IGCD, however... as well as going after Wall...

Even so Wall tunneling me D1/D2 was pretty bad. Especially when I turned out to be town.

Also literally everything I said about the teleporter was true.
No one is blaming anyone. I've gone through every stage of grief about my modkill, I'm at peace with it now.

You were honestly one of the best town players... every time you didn't get personal. Unfortunately, that happened a lot and it was distracting to you perhaps more than to anyone else. You deduced a lot of the mysteries of the game, but you should really keep in mind that requesting a modkill of someone else is always bad form, no matter what.

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Forceful_Dragon
10/19/23 3:50:09 PM
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And even more importantly, congrats to Death for a game well won!

I would have liked to have been in a position to try and discern him as indy, but alas I was too busy trying to save my own life. I know my opinion was along the lines of "he definitely has the role, but he isn't confirmed as town", but I still would have said more likely town than not while I was alive.

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htaeD
10/19/23 3:50:29 PM
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PeaceFrog posted...

Yeah, you being able to hunt scum meant that you didn't trigger my scumtell on you until well after i was dead (and was told there was an indy, but didn't have other informed details).

You played the role well.


I mean it was in my best interest to help town as well
Luckily town never got too far ahead for me to have to help scum and guess who to give an item too

Imagine me giving Ulti the vigshot

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htaeD
10/19/23 3:51:18 PM
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And yeah BCT you did well
Would not lynch if I were town

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PeaceFrog
10/19/23 3:51:26 PM
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htaeD posted...
town never got too far ahead
I wonder how that didn't happen

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Sheep007
10/19/23 3:53:49 PM
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I think regardless of who won there, Town losing was kinda on me. Figured out the exact PoE to nail the whole scumteam very early on, but didn't put the time in to figure out inconsistencies (such as the thing Crescent pointed out which I would definitely have noticed with a solid reread), although we'd essentially lost by the time I lynched Wallz anyway. Ulti beating me would have been deserved, he was very obvious Scum from my PoV but that didn't matter when I misplayed so badly that my gamewinning PoE wasn't going to convince anyone.

Ulti, you're a very fun Scum player to watch, as well! I've seen it before in your scumgames, but practically open-wolfing and still not being seen through by anyone is very satisfying (and being the target of said open-wolfing didn't make it much less satisfying). You woulda earned the win tbh, especially with such a nerfed scumteam.

Can't begrudge the loss, Death earned the win with minimal error, and it was a fun game I wish I put more into. Thanks for having me y'all, I've just started grad school so definitely didn't have time for this, but I enjoyed nonetheless!

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htaeD
10/19/23 3:54:55 PM
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PeaceFrog posted...

I wonder how that didn't happen


Man you totally robbed me of a chance to use an item too
Luckily IGCds modkill made up for that

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PeaceFrog
10/19/23 3:55:53 PM
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Big thanks to Sheep for stepping in, good luck with the grad school endeavors

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htaeD
10/19/23 3:55:55 PM
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Sheep007 posted...
I think regardless of who won there, Town losing was kinda on me. Figured out the exact PoE to nail the whole scumteam very early on, but didn't put the time in to figure out inconsistencies (such as the thing Crescent pointed out which I would definitely have noticed with a solid reread), although we'd essentially lost by the time I lynched Wallz anyway. Ulti beating me would have been deserved, he was very obvious Scum from my PoV but that didn't matter when I misplayed so badly that my gamewinning PoE wasn't going to convince anyone.

Ulti, you're a very fun Scum player to watch, as well! I've seen it before in your scumgames, but practically open-wolfing and still not being seen through by anyone is very satisfying (and being the target of said open-wolfing didn't make it much less satisfying). You woulda earned the win tbh, especially with such a nerfed scumteam.

Can't begrudge the loss, Death earned the win with minimal error, and it was a fun game I wish I put more into. Thanks for having me y'all, I've just started grad school so definitely didn't have time for this, but I enjoyed nonetheless!

For what its worth, you made me paranoid about Ulti again.
Wasnt useful to influence me, but hey

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BlueCrystalTear
10/19/23 3:57:17 PM
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Forceful_Dragon posted...
I legitimately was not making a remark about you as a person. You took what I said to mean I was calling you stupid which was definitely not the case. I'm hoping we can put it behind us.
Thank you for clearing that up. My bad on misunderstanding you. I just saw that you didn't want to believe me saying how I was told it worked. And what I said was 100% the truth. You don't need to "scold" me after the game and I'm glad you took time to realize that.

We can move beyond this. And if you ever feel like playing Stardew together again, I'm down.

PeaceFrog posted...
You were honestly one of the best town players... every time you didn't get personal. Unfortunately, that happened a lot and it was distracting to you perhaps more than to anyone else. You deduced a lot of the mysteries of the game, but you should really keep in mind that requesting a modkill of someone else is always bad form, no matter what.
Yeah I'll try to get better at dealing with that stuff. I think I did fine after Crescent told me to knock it off.... and actually focused on trying to solve the game. Progress one step at a time, yes?

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Crescent-Moon
10/19/23 3:58:13 PM
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Oh and Peaf was the reason the neighbors had to be kicked upon death. He could've circumvented his limitations through the neighbors.

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ctesjbuvf
10/19/23 3:58:15 PM
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Death is now leading in independent victories, right!

I am not entirely satisfied with my performance but it got close enough. Nothing I have said about activity was incorrect btw. I kinda wish I had been able to answer I still wanted to be in. I was tagged but I didn't notice in time. I still had fun in the end though.

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Leafeon13N
10/19/23 3:59:46 PM
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I wish people wouldn't end days while I'm sleeping.

The recent track record is bad. Real bad.
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htaeD
10/19/23 4:00:46 PM
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ctesjbuvf posted...
Death is now leading in independent victories, right!

I am not entirely satisfied with my performance but it got close enough. Nothing I have said about activity was incorrect btw. I kinda wish I had been able to answer I still wanted to be in. I was tagged but I didn't notice in time. I still had fun in the end though.


I forgot my previous one, but that one had a really weird condition.

Luca Blight is still a top tier victory tho.

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Forceful_Dragon
10/19/23 4:00:56 PM
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In theory, this should have been enough to lynch Ctes on day 3 instead of myself. But unfortunately there was little/no pressure to force ctes and Sheep to complete the mass claim or we might have had ctes' claim more than 2 hours before the day ended and we could have chewed on it a bit longer.

Forceful_Dragon posted...
Right but we have a situation where there is 1 non-flip (which is bad for everyone)

And then one flip that will only be revealed to scum (which is bad for specifically town).

And as chang is mentioning it has the potential to set a either a ridiculously terrible or ridiculously lukewarm series of events into motion, particularly if you happened to be triggered very early on.

Forceful_Dragon posted...
A swingy mechanic that functions entirely on RNG is pretty bad game design.

Scum may have control over when they pull the trigger on you, but they have no control over what your role would reveal to them which would have an incredible impact on the potential value of the existence of your role.

Sure there are roles that can either be very valuable or very not-valuable depending on how the person assigned that role pilots them. But the value of your role has nothing to do with anyone piloting their role and just the luck of the draw of what information scum is given.

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Crescent-Moon
10/19/23 4:01:11 PM
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By the way Ctes claimed scum during mass and you guys let him get away with it. FD was the only one who seemed to care.

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htaeD
10/19/23 4:01:35 PM
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I also believe town could have recovered... if I let them

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Forceful_Dragon
10/19/23 4:02:23 PM
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Crescent-Moon posted...
By the way Ctes claimed scum during mass and you guys let him get away with it. FD was the only one who seemed to care.

Yeah, we let him not-claim until the day was almost over. No time to pivot.

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htaeD
10/19/23 4:02:31 PM
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Crescent-Moon posted...
By the way Ctes claimed scum during mass and you guys let him get away with it. FD was the only one who seemed to care.


Ha
I only had to care about numero uno

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changmas
10/19/23 4:03:00 PM
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good job death

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changmas
10/19/23 4:03:16 PM
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Crescent-Moon posted...
By the way Ctes claimed scum during mass and you guys let him get away with it. FD was the only one who seemed to care.

whoa whoa i cared too just...not enough

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Crescent-Moon
10/19/23 4:03:32 PM
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Forceful_Dragon posted...
Yeah, we let him not-claim until the day was almost over. No time to pivot.
Problem is throwing the game by blind tunneling Wall all day after when he had a claim that actually fit and Ctes claimed something Ulti had already acknowledged Blade would find offensive.

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htaeD
10/19/23 4:03:33 PM
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I will say the small number of nillas was unusual.

Ulti defending the two who did claim nilla hard is a clear Ulti scumtell in hindsight.

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Forceful_Dragon
10/19/23 4:04:40 PM
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Crescent-Moon posted...
Problem is throwing the game by blind tunneling Wall all day after when he had a claim that actually fit and Ctes claimed something Ulti had already acknowledged Blade would find offensive.

I would like to believe that if Day 4 had gone smoothly there is a chance that ctes is lynched instead of wallz.

It's probably not true, but I'd like to believe it.

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Sheep007
10/19/23 4:05:37 PM
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Yeahh, on reflection I was fine with the FD lynch even after Ctes claimed, but I definitely shoulda treated Ctes and Ulti more harshly on the same day as Wallz. Made them scrap against each other, it was a lazy waste of a kingmaker.

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Crescent-Moon
10/19/23 4:06:51 PM
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htaeD posted...
I will say the small number of nillas was unusual.

Ulti defending the two who did claim nilla hard is a clear Ulti scumtell in hindsight.
Plum was basically just a vanilla with mild flavoring.

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Sheep007
10/19/23 4:08:24 PM
#46:


I also think I probably woulda lynched Wallz that day over Ctes regardless, I think Wallz looked poor earlygame as well and I was obviously still working with a 5 man scumteam, plus I thought EBG was wayyyyy too strong for a 4 man team. Hell, EBG is one of the main reasons I went for Wallz first, since I actually thought the theory Ulti posited about me trying to kill Ctes to get off some super-ability was going to be true for Wallz, given how he wanted one more day.

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htaeD
10/19/23 4:08:32 PM
#47:


Oh and scum DID shoot FD
Aha

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Forceful_Dragon
10/19/23 4:09:23 PM
#48:


FD has charisma and people listen to him. No offense Chang when you read this but people dont follow you.
-Ulti, Scumboard

lol apparently not.


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htaeD
10/19/23 4:09:28 PM
#49:


Crescent-Moon posted...

Plum was basically just a vanilla with mild flavoring.


I thought he was my weakness

Oh and sorry I took so long during the days, Crescent
But I didnt want to risk a single thing or seem to eager.

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Sheep007
10/19/23 4:10:49 PM
#50:


htaeD posted...
I thought he was my weakness

Oh and sorry I took so long during the days, Crescent
But I didnt want to risk a single thing or seem to eager.
It would have been very out of character for you to seem decisive in a game of mafia, so I think that was the correct play

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