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Forceful_Dragon
10/19/23 4:12:09 PM
#51:


Sheep007 posted...
, I think Wallz looked poor earlygame

I definitely was giving too much weight to the idea that my almost-lynch day 1 (and the pivot to sultan) was the result of scum saving one of their own.

That kept putting wallz in the conversation for me because it made the end of day 1 easier to understand.

BUT we should have remembered that there was a point going into the tail end of day 1 where the vote leader still only had 3 votes. It was a fully hands off from scum. It was only Sultan's 24-hour-lie that made him the most acceptable pivot to me, but we probably could have just pivoted to someone completely new (or NL'd?)

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wallmasterz
10/19/23 4:12:33 PM
#52:


Sheep007 posted...
I also think I probably woulda lynched Wallz that day over Ctes regardless, I think Wallz looked poor earlygame as well

Just for my own improvement, how so?

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htaeD
10/19/23 4:14:49 PM
#55:


Sheep007 posted...

It would have been very out of character for you to seem decisive in a game of mafia, so I think that was the correct play


I did make a mistake in getting too eager to end Wallz tho

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Crescent-Moon
10/19/23 4:16:54 PM
#56:


htaeD posted...
I thought he was my weakness

Oh and sorry I took so long during the days, Crescent
But I didnt want to risk a single thing or seem to eager.
When Blade scrambled and created the role to re-fill the slot, he realized it might look obviously like a counter to you, and changed the wording and flavor around. You're not a "hostile night action" since you don't even act at night.

The role was never meant to be significant.

This was also partially to avoid virtually confirming Plum as town in specific situations where he claimed it before you died.

But yes having a random town role only existing to hardcounter an Indy that can never kill it directly sounds super unfair.

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htaeD
10/19/23 4:17:08 PM
#57:


I also suspected you were trying to get BCT to trigger vote me, Ulti.
I dont know if I would have pressed you more or less for that nonsense if I were town tho.
Giving you the smokebomb was a mistake tho, should have given you the goggles.

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htaeD
10/19/23 4:17:26 PM
#58:


Crescent-Moon posted...

When Blade scrambled and created the role to re-fill the slot, he realized it might look obviously like a counter to you, and changed the wording and flavor around. You're not a "hostile night action" since you don't even act at night.

The role was never meant to be significant.

Ah

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Sheep007
10/19/23 4:17:39 PM
#59:


wallmasterz posted...
Just for my own improvement, how so?
Not necessarily off your own back on all of it - FD basically summed up that it looked like a pivot to save Dumey [edit: not dumey. I think. shows how much I read D1]. I also think that the indecisiveness and particularly the fact you barely mentioned Sultan before killing him looked very bad. I wasn't in the game for that EoD and obviously couldn't pick up how the game felt, so don't take that to mean it was bad at the time, it's just how it looked on rereads with like, 50% of the context. I don't think you played particularly badly at all.

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Crescent-Moon
10/19/23 4:19:12 PM
#60:


htaeD posted...
I also suspected you were trying to get BCT to trigger vote me, Ulti.
I dont know if I would have pressed you more or less for that nonsense if I were town tho.
Giving you the smokebomb was a mistake tho, should have given you the goggles.
I thought Smoke bombing him was the best way to make yourself enough of a threat to get shot

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PeaceFrog
10/19/23 4:19:34 PM
#61:


I think wallz' only mistakes d1 were
  • Easing off of sbell too easily (which is only bad in retrospect with sbell dying n1)
  • Being in a town x3 lynch race d1 where it looked like scum favored one over others


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htaeD
10/19/23 4:21:57 PM
#62:


Crescent-Moon posted...

I thought Smoke bombing him was the best way to make yourself enough of a threat to get shot


And I thought telling scum I had more items was also a good way to get shot.
Sucks that my last 2 targets were both scum

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htaeD
10/19/23 4:23:55 PM
#63:


Anwyay god bless Nala

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Crescent-Moon
10/19/23 4:25:26 PM
#64:


Ulti's problem there was he could never actually prove you targeted him.

What really messed scum up was Sheep though. Since Death won the game no matter who was lynched (unless it was Death himself, and he asked me this night 5, so he knew), scum was screwed the moment the day got locked onto Sheep/Ctes.

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Crescent-Moon
10/19/23 4:25:37 PM
#65:


htaeD posted...
Anwyay god bless Nala
Kitties!

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Leafeon13N
10/19/23 4:26:06 PM
#66:


This should be a lesson to scum that Indy is not your friend. We knew every role had a twist and assuming survivor was an error.
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htaeD
10/19/23 4:28:17 PM
#67:


Crescent-Moon posted...
Ulti's problem there was he could never actually prove you targeted him.

What really messed scum up was Sheep though. Since Death won the game no matter who was lynched (unless it was Death himself, and he asked me this night 5, so he knew), scum was screwed the moment the day got locked onto Sheep/Ctes.


Yeah that was nice of Sheep to put me out of danger

If worst came of it, I probably could have claimed independent vendor. But I didnt look forward to that at all.

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BlueCrystalTear
10/19/23 4:28:58 PM
#68:


Reading DTC and seeing how everyone except FD was amazed at how I was the only town worth a damn on D5 onward is.... I dunno. But thanks for all of the praise! It's good to be noticed.

Also thank you to Sultan for telling me how to be better town before roles went out. Really helped me a lot here!

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Sheep007
10/19/23 4:29:31 PM
#69:


Leafeon13N posted...
This should be a lesson to scum that Indy is not your friend. We knew every role had a twist and assuming survivor was an error.
I assumed you were indy after Wallz flipped, and came into the final day expecting to congratulate you then beg you to townside.

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Crescent-Moon
10/19/23 4:29:50 PM
#70:


Leafeon13N posted...
This should be a lesson to scum that Indy is not your friend. We knew every role had a twist and assuming survivor was an error.
Scum spent all game trying to figure out who the hell Indy was but they never zoned in on Death at all until the end.

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htaeD
10/19/23 4:32:09 PM
#71:


Crescent-Moon posted...

Scum spent all game trying to figure out who the hell Indy was but they never zoned in on Death at all until the end.


Death couldn't hurt a fly.

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Crescent-Moon
10/19/23 4:33:37 PM
#73:


And yes I had a long extra block of text prepared for why Death still won even on a Sheep lynch.

But to sum it up "Death acts during the day, marks Ctes and wins as the lynch occurs. Scum only wins after the lynch occurs."

There was an argument that Death should've won at the start of the day, but it wasn't how the role was intended.

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Crescent-Moon
10/19/23 4:34:30 PM
#75:


UltimaterializerX posted...
I had a feeling it was Death but couldnt get the votes. No shame there! Also:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/7/0/AABxG1AAE86W.jpg

It is actually insane I literally claimed scum 5 times this game and couldnt get a single vote after like, day 1.

Powerless players dont get sent roleblock messages guys. I cannot believe that almost worked.
You claimed scum the first post of day 6 and repeatedly throughout the day it was impressive!

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BlueCrystalTear
10/19/23 4:35:47 PM
#76:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Powerless players dont get sent roleblock messages guys. I cannot believe that almost worked.
Was I the only one raising any objections to it?

I mean, I was starting to get onto you. What you were spewing wasn't making any sense to me, and I made sure that was known. Almost actually voted for you tbh, because I was getting a headache trying to figure it out, but I didn't have the balls to derail where the discussion was going.

Gotta work on it though.

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htaeD
10/19/23 4:37:16 PM
#77:


Crescent-Moon posted...
And yes I had a long extra block of text prepared for why Death still won even on a Sheep lynch.

But to sum it up "Death acts during the day, marks Ctes and wins as the lynch occurs. Scum only wins after the lynch occurs."

There was an argument that Death should've won at the start of the day, but it wasn't how the role was intended.


I could have lost if Sheep hadnt made the day all about himself and Ctes

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Sheep007
10/19/23 4:37:54 PM
#79:


I would have happily voted for Ulti on that last day if I had any reason to believe people would follow me onto him >_> I had to compromise somewhere

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htaeD
10/19/23 4:39:42 PM
#80:


UltimaterializerX posted...

He has 2. Chris and I are tied with 4 each.


No I definitely won 1 more independent game besides this one and Suikoden Mafia
There was also a survivor game where you hammered me in the face, grrr.

There was also a game where I won as an indy on a proboard forum once? I dont even remember why I was in that.

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htaeD
10/19/23 4:41:09 PM
#81:


BlueCrystalTear posted...

Was I the only one raising any objections to it?

I mean, I was starting to get onto you. What you were spewing wasn't making any sense to me, and I made sure that was known. Almost actually voted for you tbh, because I was getting a headache trying to figure it out, but I didn't have the balls to derail where the discussion was going.

Gotta work on it though.


I knew why he got that message, which must have subconsciously hampered my ability to call him out about it.

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htaeD
10/19/23 4:44:01 PM
#83:


Honestly I wouldnt mind having lost this either. I just had too much fun either way.
Pity I never brought out the gavel or gun

I did consider giving the gavel to someone instead of the doublevote

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Crescent-Moon
10/19/23 4:44:06 PM
#84:


I've never been an Indy yet~

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Isquen
10/19/23 4:45:54 PM
#85:


htaeD posted...
Oh and scum DID shoot FD
Aha

I did ONE thing right! :D

Stopped clocks, twice a day, et cetera.

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Isquen
10/19/23 4:46:53 PM
#87:


Worst part is the night I jailed Sheep I was sorely considering RB'ing Ulti, which would've saved my life for another day.

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Sheep007
10/19/23 4:47:02 PM
#88:


I don't think I've ever rolled indy on B8 (aside from that survivor game, where I got killed the night I woulda won) but I definitely won a few games as them before heading here.

Still actually never won a town game on B8 while being alive at the end, as far as I can tell. One day I'm gonna join a game from the start again too, in order to actually remember what playing town power is like.

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htaeD
10/19/23 4:47:57 PM
#89:


Wait why did scum not just simply shoot the claimed Jailmaster Night1 again?

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PeaceFrog
10/19/23 4:49:30 PM
#90:


Corrik as a paranoid vanilla can really make the game hell for scum, is my guess

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Crescent-Moon
10/19/23 4:51:19 PM
#91:


htaeD posted...
Wait why did scum not just simply shoot the claimed Jailmaster Night1 again?
Scum only ever seemed interested in shooting neighbors!

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Lopen
10/19/23 4:59:47 PM
#92:


Ulti made far too much sense for endgame and was sure of indie so I figured he was scum with 1 scummate

Didn't follow enough to have any other guesses

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10/19/23 5:15:47 PM
#93:


Crescent-Moon posted...
Kitties!


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ctesjbuvf
10/19/23 7:34:23 PM
#94:


Crescent-Moon posted...
By the way Ctes claimed scum during mass and you guys let him get away with it. FD was the only one who seemed to care.

I straight up wasn't around.

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Crescent-Moon
10/19/23 7:43:03 PM
#95:


It wasn't when you claimed, it was what you claimed.

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Obellisk
10/19/23 8:30:08 PM
#96:


I would say good game death but I didn't pay much of any attention. So just congrats.

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Obellisk
10/19/23 8:30:31 PM
#97:


I do like that I influenced a flavor though. huzzah


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red13n
10/19/23 8:34:35 PM
#98:


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ctesjbuvf
10/19/23 9:47:25 PM
#99:


Crescent-Moon posted...
It wasn't when you claimed, it was what you claimed.

Nah, otherwise I would have died sooner. It looks stupid with knowledge but the obscurity works for a while.

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ScareChan
10/20/23 4:10:43 AM
#100:


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