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Cheater87 10/16/23 10:21:41 PM #1: |
I thought we weren't going to fight their war?
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DKBananaSlamma 10/16/23 10:21:58 PM #2: |
Way to go Joe
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Zikten 10/16/23 10:23:04 PM #3: |
so that CEman who said he heard secret info about deployment was right ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bat178 10/16/23 10:25:27 PM #5: |
And yet he pulled the US out of Afghanistan...
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K181 10/16/23 10:25:49 PM #6: |
Link? CNN is currently showing a story about Hamas hostages.
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hockeybub89 10/16/23 10:26:35 PM #7: |
So the US and other NATO countries putting boots on the ground in Ukraine would have been starting WW3 by sticking our nose where it doesn't belong.
But helping an extremist apartheid state in the Middle East commit genocide under the guise of defeating terrorism is good guys helping out a friend in need. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cheater87 10/16/23 10:26:47 PM #8: |
K181 posted...
Link? CNN is currently showing a story about Hamas hostages. I saw it on the breaking news thing during the OAC interview. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2023/10/16/israel-hamas-war-live-updates/71201737007/ --- Just call me Discount Dan. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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theAteam 10/16/23 10:28:01 PM #9: |
K181 posted...
Link? CNN is currently showing a story about Hamas hostages. Nbc but here you go https://www.nbcnews.com/news/military/2000-us-troops-told-prepare-deployment-response-israel-hamas-war-rcna120694 --- Buffalo Bills ... Copied to Clipboard!
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K181 10/16/23 10:28:09 PM #10: |
Found it:
https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/16/politics/us-marines-pentagon-israel/index.html To be fair, 2000 marines are being sent to the task force in the area, but its not necessarily a sign that theyre going to be deployed on the ground. Might just be a threat amplifier. --- Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FolkenRawr 10/16/23 10:28:29 PM #11: |
2000 troops is the same as zero troops. What's the point?
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EDF-5 10/16/23 10:28:41 PM #12: |
How long will troops be there THIS time? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Payzmaykr 10/16/23 10:28:44 PM #13: |
https://www.yahoo.com/news/pentagon-puts-troops-notice-prepare-200825301.html Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin has ordered a select number of U.S. troops to prepare to deploy in support of Israel, multiple outlets have reported. About 2,000 such troops were chosen this weekend to be ready to assist with advising and medical support, The Wall Street Journal first reported. The forces will be pulled from across the U.S. armed services, with the troops currently stationed inside the Middle East and in nearby Europe. But officials have not said which units were chosen or the location they would deploy to, according to the Journal. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativeme 10/16/23 10:31:04 PM #14: |
hockeybub89 posted...
So the US and other NATO countries putting boots on the ground in Ukraine would have been starting WW3 by sticking our nose where it doesn't belong. i thought isreal was in NATO but just looked at they're a "non-Nato ally." so how is that ranked higher than ukraine that's been in the process to join NATO? this really doesn't make sense. --- This is a sig ... Copied to Clipboard!
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K181 10/16/23 10:36:25 PM #15: |
hockeybub89 posted...
So the US and other NATO countries putting boots on the ground in Ukraine would have been starting WW3 by sticking our nose where it doesn't belong. Because Russia has nukes and Palestine doesnt. Thats pretty blatantly obvious. creativeme posted... i thought isreal was in NATO but just looked at they're a "non-Nato ally." so how is that ranked higher than ukraine that's been in the process to join NATO? A country being designated as a MNNA doesnt make it a mutual defense pact, but rather a recognition of a deep military partnership. All that does is open the door for easier access to military and financial aid. Ukraine has nothing to do with it, and NATO has a pretty sensible policy of not accepting new members that are in a war. Expanding a red line defensive alliance into a war zone doesnt really make sense. --- Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JuanCarlos1 10/16/23 10:38:03 PM #16: |
Why are even foreign soldiers necessary when IDF has so many in relation to the threat? 2k troops just sounds like a show of support though.
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VFalcone 10/16/23 10:38:47 PM #17: |
If one of those soldiers die, that'll be used as an excuse for war ... Copied to Clipboard!
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streamofthesky 10/16/23 10:39:37 PM #18: |
FolkenRawr posted... 2000 troops is the same as zero troops. What's the point?Any country that attacks US troops provokes a US response. Do Iran, Syria, or Lebanon want to be the next Iraq? They're being positioned there for the exact same but opposite reason Biden avoids (officially) putting any US forces within Ukraine. I've also seen people say it's to try and rescue the hostages with some sort of super duper cool spec ops mission you seen in the movies, but that sounds incredibly implausible, unfortunately. creativeme posted... i thought isreal was in NATO but just looked at they're a "non-Nato ally." so how is that ranked higher than ukraine that's been in the process to join NATO?Israel has been a major US ally for over 70 years; Ukraine has been a US ally for like....a decade, maybe. A nuclear-armed country is in Ukraine. There are no nuclear countries in Israel/Gaza. Seems pretty simple to me... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 10/16/23 10:40:05 PM #19: |
VFalcone posted... If one of those soldiers dies, that'll be used as an excuse for warEven if they are shot by friendly fire IDF ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 10/16/23 10:40:08 PM #20: |
K181 posted...
Because Russia has nukes and Palestine doesnt. Thats pretty blatantly obvious.So don't help innocents if they're being slaughtered by a dictator with nukes, but help another budding dictator with nukes slaughter innocents. I guess we would team up with Putin and conquer Ukraine if we could benefit from it. Perhaps Putin should try to invade the entire world since we'd let someone kill billions if they have nukes. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them ... Copied to Clipboard!
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K181 10/16/23 10:46:24 PM #21: |
hockeybub89 posted...
So don't help innocents if they're being slaughtered by a dictator with nukes, but help another budding dictator with nukes slaughter innocents. I know youre trying to make a point, but youre not really nor does hyperbole sell the point. We have a long-standing partnership with Israel, so nothings changed there, and weve been giving Ukraine huge amounts of aid that has allowed their forces to contain and force back Russians. Plus, again, Palestine isnt going to start WWIII. Attacking Russia would. --- Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Torgo 10/16/23 10:48:44 PM #22: |
Bat178 posted...
And yet he pulled the US out of Afghanistan... Trump technically initiated that, but because republicans are cowardly cartoon villains, they immediately turned around from lauding Trump for being "anti-war" to attacking Biden for sticking to the timeline. --- Moderated for telling people not to commit illegal acts of assault and murder.09/2/23 Also moderated for not responding to obvious bait. - 10/03/23 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smashingpmkns 10/16/23 10:51:28 PM #23: |
Zikten posted...
Even if they are shot by friendly fire IDFWouldn't be the first time friendly fire was blamed on an opposing side. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Tillman --- http://i.imgur.com/x04tPRZ.jpg http://i.imgur.com/t7T392I.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cheater87 10/16/23 10:53:02 PM #24: |
Smashingpmkns posted...
Wouldn't be the first time friendly fire was blamed on an opposing side. Don't forget the USS Liberty. --- Just call me Discount Dan. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hexa 10/16/23 10:54:26 PM #25: |
Zikten posted... so that CEman who said he heard secret info about deployment was right his name is clyde_frog ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TyVulpine 10/16/23 10:55:08 PM #26: |
Bat178 posted...
And yet he pulled the US out of Afghanistan...That was mainly Trump's doing. He started the downsizing, refused to brief Biden during the transfer of power, and left Biden in a tough spot of either finishing the withdrawal and get blamed for anything that goes wrong or re-commit troops back to Afghanistan and get the blame for that. Biden was in a no-win situation. --- Insert some witty line here ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ricemills 10/16/23 11:03:49 PM #27: |
DKBananaSlamma posted...
Way to go Joe I hate to say this, but Trump is getting higher chance for the next election because of this. --- You have the right to remain silent. Anything you posted will be misquoted, then be used against you. http://error1355.com/ce/Ricemills.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TyVulpine 10/16/23 11:04:36 PM #28: |
Ricemills posted...
I hate to say this, but Trump is getting higher chance for the next election.No way is Trump winning a second term. He lost the popular vote twice already. I don't see him winning in 2024. --- Insert some witty line here ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ricemills 10/16/23 11:11:27 PM #29: |
TyVulpine posted...
No way is Trump winning a second term. He lost the popular vote twice already. I don't see him winning in 2024. This kind of arrogance is why Hillary lost. Especially when she won the popular vote. --- You have the right to remain silent. Anything you posted will be misquoted, then be used against you. http://error1355.com/ce/Ricemills.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kradek 10/16/23 11:19:30 PM #30: |
Ricemills posted...
This kind of arrogance is why Hillary lost. Especially when she won the popular vote. It's true we can never count Trump out, 2016 showed us that, however the 2018, 2020, and 2022 elections showed an overwhelming rejection of Trumpism. In this previous election they were expecting a red wave in the House and taking back the Senate, instead they got a 4 seat majority (all from New York, which did have redistricting and successful crime fearmongering) and saw the Dems gain a seat. Since Trump only gets worse and even more unhinged, never better, the pattern would suggest it very unlikely that suddenly people overwhelmingly come back into supporting him and his extremism. Especially since he's at the point of justifying not defending the Cons. and executing officials for not helping him end democracy. --- My metal band, Ivory King, has 2 songs out now - allmylinks.com/ivorykingtx (all of our links there so you can choose which one you'd prefer to use) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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streamofthesky 10/16/23 11:20:13 PM #31: |
Ricemills posted... This kind of arrogance is why Hillary lost. Especially when she won the popular vote.Hamas murdered over two dozen Americans and has more still hostage. If Biden did nothing, Republicans would have a field day. He doesn't have that "saintly shield" of Ronnie Reagan (never forget the bunker bombing). Might not be what you like to hear, but responding forcefully to this is popular with most of the country, on both sides of the aisle. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Patriotwolf 10/16/23 11:49:43 PM #32: |
hockeybub89 posted...
So the US and other NATO countries putting boots on the ground in Ukraine would have been starting WW3 by sticking our nose where it doesn't belong. Your antisemitism is showing. Exactly how many civilians died on Afghanistan and Iraq? --- "You're just one big headache, and I got a pistol full of aspirin" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TyVulpine 10/16/23 11:52:22 PM #33: |
Patriotwolf posted...
Your antisemitism is showing.I laugh when people pull the youre anti-Semite if you dont support Israel!. Never mind that Israel spent the last 70 years stealing Palestinian land; right? --- Insert some witty line here ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Patriotwolf 10/16/23 11:55:00 PM #34: |
TyVulpine posted...
I laugh when people pull the youre anti-Semite if you dont support Israel!. Never mind that Israel spent the last 70 years stealing Palestinian land; right? If you are American or European you have zero room to talk --- "You're just one big headache, and I got a pistol full of aspirin" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ricemills 10/16/23 11:56:34 PM #35: |
Patriotwolf posted...
If you are American or European you have zero room to talk Fortunately I'm not either, so what if i said that? --- You have the right to remain silent. Anything you posted will be misquoted, then be used against you. http://error1355.com/ce/Ricemills.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TyVulpine 10/16/23 11:57:20 PM #36: |
Patriotwolf posted...
If you are American or European you have zero room to talkAnd yet I did anyway. --- Insert some witty line here ... Copied to Clipboard!
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streamofthesky 10/17/23 12:01:54 AM #38: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] It's not confirmed, but fair enough. Enemy nuclear armed countries. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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nocturnal_traveler 10/17/23 12:04:33 AM #39: |
Another war to feed the military industrial complex. Sucks that Israel is part of NATO, since it makes the US kind of obligated to help them in some way.
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Ricemills 10/17/23 12:05:52 AM #40: |
nocturnal_traveler posted...
Sucks that Israel is part of NATO They're not. --- You have the right to remain silent. Anything you posted will be misquoted, then be used against you. http://error1355.com/ce/Ricemills.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MistyKnight 10/17/23 12:05:59 AM #41: |
Patriotwolf posted...
If you are American or European you have zero room to talkWow this is the dumbest comment I've seen about anything on gf in a minute. Congrats --- friend find, look behind ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Collat 10/17/23 12:06:14 AM #42: |
To help Palestine right? Right? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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nocturnal_traveler 10/17/23 12:06:28 AM #43: |
Ricemills posted...
They're not.Then why are we sending in troops? --- --I understand your opinion. I just don't care about it. ~Jedah-- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Collat 10/17/23 12:07:33 AM #44: |
Patriotwolf posted... If you are American or European you have zero room to talkI'm neither. And they are right. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MistyKnight 10/17/23 12:07:50 AM #45: |
nocturnal_traveler posted...
Then why are we sending in troops?In a non combat capacity --- friend find, look behind ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ricemills 10/17/23 12:09:38 AM #46: |
Collat posted...
To help Palestine right? Unfortunately no. Payzmaykr posted... https://www.yahoo.com/news/pentagon-puts-troops-notice-prepare-200825301.html nocturnal_traveler posted... Then why are we sending in troops?Why not also ask why keep sending them money? --- You have the right to remain silent. Anything you posted will be misquoted, then be used against you. http://error1355.com/ce/Ricemills.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MarcyWarcy 10/17/23 12:09:52 AM #47: |
nocturnal_traveler posted...
Then why are we sending in troops? to try to deter hezbollah from interfering with the genocide --- Looks like this gamer's paradise has turned into a gamer's hell............................................... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 10/17/23 12:18:21 AM #48: |
Patriotwolf posted...
Your antisemitism is showing.Over 400,000 approximately But I was talking about Israel being run by an evil fascist who wants to eliminate all Palestinians and has been committing human rights abuses since way before the Hamas attack. But apparently being critical of Israel is "antisemitic". You'd rightfully call me stupid if I said criticism of Hamas is islamophobic --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them ... Copied to Clipboard!
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nocturnal_traveler 10/17/23 1:22:48 AM #49: |
Ricemills posted...
Why not also ask why keep sending them money?That's a good question. --- --I understand your opinion. I just don't care about it. ~Jedah-- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hexenherz 10/17/23 1:38:04 AM #50: |
The reporting makes it pretty clear that additional forces are being sent to deter further aggression and escalation of hostilities beyond Palestine and Israel, and to help with humanitarian efforts and civilian evacuation.
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