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LordFarquad1312 10/13/23 3:22:19 AM #1: |
https://www.destructoid.com/cyberpunk-2077-used-ai-to-replace-deceased-voice-actor/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=destructoid
I dunno how to feel about this. --- El sexo sucio y el planeta limpio. "If you are tired of fear from links... Let Kirby's Nightmare protect you." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rika_Furude 10/13/23 3:24:06 AM #2: |
If they arent going to implement a UBI, they need to ban AI from creative industries and probably most industries ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TetsuoS2 10/13/23 3:24:14 AM #3: |
Says right there it's been done with permission from the family, there's not much to complain about.
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boxoto 10/13/23 3:27:01 AM #4: |
seems kinda meta
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Tora_Sami 10/13/23 3:40:39 AM #5: |
TetsuoS2 posted...
Says right there it's been done with permission from the family, there's not much to complain about. This as long as consent is given and I think even a payout to the family for what the voice actor would have been paid would also be good compensation. --- Asus E-gaming z490 | 10700k | DDR4 32gb 3200mhz | Asus TUF 3080ti | 1000 watt | Corsair H100i 240 | G7 Odyssey 32" | Orion Spark | Proteus Core ... Copied to Clipboard!
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majin_nemesis 10/13/23 3:42:46 AM #6: |
They should have just replaced the voice from that point on,this AI bs needs to stop TetsuoS2 posted... Says right there it's been done with permission from the family, there's not much to complain about.What about permission from the actual person? The family might be just taking advantage to get more money ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ricemills 10/13/23 3:50:31 AM #7: |
boxoto posted...
seems kinda meta Lol this. Fitting for a cyberpunk dystopian genre --- You have the right to remain silent. Anything you posted will be misquoted, then be used against you. http://error1355.com/ce/Ricemills.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TetsuoS2 10/13/23 4:00:14 AM #8: |
majin_nemesis posted...
They should have just replaced the voice from that point on,this AI bs needs to stop well yeah, that's a thing, but I'm not gonna assume anything about someone else's family that I don't even know of. --- the local octopus( ) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zwijn 10/13/23 4:01:32 AM #9: |
Rika_Furude posted... If they arent going to implement a UBI, they need to ban AI from creative industries and probably most industriesItll be a thing, but not until the last possible moment. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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008Zulu 10/13/23 4:11:51 AM #10: |
majin_nemesis posted...
What about permission from the actual person? The family might be just taking advantage to get more moneyHe died. Seances are not legally binding either. --- If you're not smart enough to survive, you are basically just food for something smarter. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fluttershy 10/13/23 4:14:06 AM #11: |
Seances are not legally binding either.
i mean if you can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that it's them it should be fine --- https://imgur.com/a7zbPmp.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kaiganeer 10/13/23 4:15:33 AM #12: |
majin_nemesis posted... What about permission from the actual person?he's dead i don't think he minds ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tora_Sami 10/13/23 4:21:05 AM #13: |
majin_nemesis posted...
They should have just replaced the voice from that point on,this AI bs needs to stop You act as if VA are paid millions. The dude is dead and they may need the extra money to survive. You don't know their situation. --- Asus E-gaming z490 | 10700k | DDR4 32gb 3200mhz | Asus TUF 3080ti | 1000 watt | Corsair H100i 240 | G7 Odyssey 32" | Orion Spark | Proteus Core ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mew 10/13/23 4:21:28 AM #14: |
Ricemills posted...
Lol this. --- https://iili.io/J2AP3an.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Axiom 10/13/23 4:21:50 AM #15: |
Actors are really going to have to start writing into their wills don't use me for fucking ai aren't they ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dotsdfe 10/13/23 4:23:50 AM #16: |
There's actually some nuance to this incident, apparently:
From what I understand, the company hired a VA replacement for the deceased VA to finish lines and then, with the deceased VA's family's permission, used AI to artificially make the voice sound closer to the original VA. I'm the first to criticize AI, and this story sounded awful when I heard it, but it's not quite as bad as it sounds. --- https://www.youtube.com/user/dotsdfe I make Fire Emblem videos. Sometimes. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ricemills 10/13/23 4:24:30 AM #17: |
Do people freaked out because it's an AI? I have the feeling if it was a digitally altered voice to sounds like the deceased, it wouldn't gain controversy.
Like the Disney CGI background people, people labelling it as an AI and ut gathered attention. --- You have the right to remain silent. Anything you posted will be misquoted, then be used against you. http://error1355.com/ce/Ricemills.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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majin_nemesis 10/13/23 4:37:21 AM #18: |
Kaiganeer posted... he's deadAnd you know that how? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gmanthebest 10/13/23 4:37:46 AM #19: |
majin_nemesis posted...
What about permission from the actual person? The family might be just taking advantage to get more moneyWell, he's dead, so I don't think he cares that much. And if we could ask him, I'm sure he'd be happy that his family could get some money to support themselves after his passing. --- The large print giveth And the small print taketh away ... Copied to Clipboard!
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majin_nemesis 10/13/23 4:40:14 AM #20: |
Ricemills posted... Do people freaked out because it's an AI? I have the feeling if it was a digitally altered voice to sounds like the deceased, it wouldn't gain controversy.It would, it's disrespectful stop making dead people work for you ... Copied to Clipboard!
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majin_nemesis 10/13/23 4:41:37 AM #21: |
gmanthebest posted... Well, he's dead, so I don't think he cares that much. And if we could ask him, I'm sure he'd be happy that his family could get some money to support themselves after his passing.What if he doesn't like the company or the game? They are making still work for them beyond the grave Axiom posted...Yes or companies will keep making them work for them ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nukazie 10/13/23 4:41:48 AM #22: |
nothing more cyberpunk than that?
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potdnewb 10/13/23 4:43:10 AM #23: |
Rika_Furude posted...
If they arent going to implement a UBI, they need to ban AI from creative industries and probably most industriesare you losing work because an ai replaced you --- https://youtu.be/mSgnC5eQ5u0?si=lh_nzFRDz4j4jhc8 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ricemills 10/13/23 4:45:33 AM #24: |
majin_nemesis posted...
It would, it's disrespectful stop making dead people work for you Didn't stop people from using dead people on their games. e/g : Onimusha 2. --- You have the right to remain silent. Anything you posted will be misquoted, then be used against you. http://error1355.com/ce/Ricemills.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rika_Furude 10/13/23 4:45:53 AM #25: |
potdnewb posted... are you losing work because an ai replaced youno ... Copied to Clipboard!
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majin_nemesis 10/13/23 4:50:38 AM #26: |
Ricemills posted... Didn't stop people from using dead people on their games. e/g : Onimusha 2.So just because those asses did it, it means that everyone else can do it too? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ricemills 10/13/23 4:51:35 AM #27: |
majin_nemesis posted...
So just because those asses did it, it means that everyone else can do it too? Yeah, sure. Nobody minds except you. --- You have the right to remain silent. Anything you posted will be misquoted, then be used against you. http://error1355.com/ce/Ricemills.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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majin_nemesis 10/13/23 4:53:01 AM #28: |
Ricemills posted... Yeah, sure.Tons of people do Take the flash movie it severly criticized for using dead actors in the movie People have criticized marvel for stan lee cameos after the man died,i don't get this stupid fetish with using dead actors in movies in games,let people rest in piece already ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gmanthebest 10/13/23 4:53:18 AM #29: |
majin_nemesis posted...
What if he doesn't like the company or the game? They are making still work for them beyond the graveHe'd probably be happy knowing that his family can still make some money even if he's not alive. --- The large print giveth And the small print taketh away ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ricemills 10/13/23 4:54:07 AM #30: |
majin_nemesis posted...
Tons of people do And where is this "tons of people"? Are they with us right now? --- You have the right to remain silent. Anything you posted will be misquoted, then be used against you. http://error1355.com/ce/Ricemills.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nukazie 10/13/23 6:11:06 AM #31: |
majin_nemesis posted...
People have criticized marvel for stan lee cameos after the man died Marvel aint stopping the cash flow from some criticism --- We suffer from the delusion that the entire universe is held in order by the categories of human thought. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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majin_nemesis 10/13/23 6:13:57 AM #32: |
Nukazie posted... Marvel aint stopping the cash flow from some criticismdidn't know that stan lee cameos was what was making marvel movies sucessful ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZaruenKosai 10/13/23 6:37:01 AM #33: |
Rika_Furude posted...
If they arent going to implement a UBI, they need to ban AI from creative industries and probably most industriesnah , just like uber.. adapt or get left behind.. sorry, if the taxi drivers had to figure this shit out, now its the artist turn. sucks when your work gets stolen and no one gives a shite because "Taxi Drivers suck Hurr Durr." Well artists suck.. hurr durr. --- RTX 3080 - i9 10850k - LFII 360mm - Enthoo 719/Luxe 2 + 7 140mm ARGB Fans - Z490P - 850w + Plat - 120 Inch Epson 5050UB + QN90NB + Q90R ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rika_Furude 10/13/23 6:44:29 AM #34: |
ZaruenKosai posted... nah , just like uber.. adapt or get left behind.. sorry, if the taxi drivers had to figure this shit out, now its the artist turn.the issue is that jobs arent getting replaced at a 1:1 ratio. thats why UBI or banning AI is required. doing nothing will lead to riots and collapse of society ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Enclave 10/13/23 6:47:58 AM #35: |
It was done with permission from the family. I don't have a problem with this. --- The commercial says that Church isn't for perfect people, I guess that's why I'm an atheist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dark_Arbron 10/13/23 6:52:51 AM #36: |
majin_nemesis posted...
And you know that how? Because hes dead. The electrical activity in his brain that made up his consciousness dissipated, thus meaning he doesnt exist anymore. I agree with you about AI, though. --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares ... Copied to Clipboard!
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majin_nemesis 10/13/23 6:54:05 AM #37: |
ZaruenKosai posted... nah , just like uber.. adapt or get left behind.. sorry, if the taxi drivers had to figure this shit out, now its the artist turn.yeah screw people having jobs,when all these people defending A.I are starving in a curb somewhere with A.I doing their jobs they will get it Dark_Arbron posted... Because hes dead. The electrical activity in his brain that made up his consciousness dissipated, thus meaning he doesnt exist anymore.and he still had wishes and still had a will, him existing or not doesn't mean he would be happy with it also just because his flesh his dead you can't prove he doesn't exist, we can't yet see all forms of existence and there's also the fact that energy can't be destroyed,it had to go somewhere ... Copied to Clipboard!
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chaos_knight 10/13/23 7:00:11 AM #38: |
majin_nemesis posted...
yeah screw people having jobs,when all these people defending A.I are starving in a curb somewhere with A.I doing their jobs they will get it Entropy? --- Seattle Seahawks Super Bowl XLVIII Champions ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ai123 10/13/23 7:04:11 AM #39: |
majin_nemesis posted...
What about permission from the actual person? The family might be just taking advantage to get more money Should they stop publishing books once the author is dead and the copyright passes to the family? --- You'll see motivational pictures about working hundred hour weeks/Well, it only applies to those who are operating at a really basic level ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Prismsblade 10/13/23 7:09:43 AM #40: |
Rika_Furude posted...
If they arent going to implement a UBI, they need to ban AI from creative industries and probably most industriesThat seems like a net lose to humanity more then anything. Seriously, what would society gain from this exactly? --- 3DS FC:3368-5403-9633 Name: Kaizer PSN: Blackkaizer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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majin_nemesis 10/13/23 7:12:13 AM #41: |
ai123 posted... Should they stop publishing books once the author is dead and the copyright passes to the family?that's not the same thing,that still their books,the author isn't appearing in someone else fictional work without his permission,fictional work that is being done for money, it's dead people being taken advantage off and it's weird like these types of things are getting more common,like those concerts where they use holograms of dead singers,it's all becoming very disrespectful and death cult like Prismsblade posted... That seems like a net lose to humanity more then anything.more jobs and more real things made by real humans what does society earn by having A.Is take your job while you get nothing? A.I doesn't have much advantage to society ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rika_Furude 10/13/23 7:16:34 AM #42: |
Prismsblade posted... That seems like a net lose to humanity more then anything.yes, banning AI would be a net loss. Hence the ideal solution is implement UBI. What you gain from doing nothing is riots and societal collapse ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Punished_Blinx 10/13/23 7:24:25 AM #43: |
"They have permission from his/her family" is gonna be something we hear about for quite a while now.
Before we know it we'll be seeing season 50 of The Simpsons with AI recreations of dead people and the concept of a new voice actor getting million dollar contract will be impossible. But it'll be okay because they have permission from the family. --- A Fallen Mascot ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ai123 10/13/23 7:26:30 AM #44: |
majin_nemesis posted...
that's not the same thing,that still their books,the author isn't appearing in someone else fictional work without his permission,fictional work that is being done for money, it's dead people being taken advantage off and it's weird like these types of things are getting more common,like those concerts where they use holograms of dead singers,it's all becoming very disrespectful and death cult likeYour complaint was that the family may be profiting by giving permission, which is absolutely the same thing. Should the family of a dead author no longer have the right to give permission for a film adaptation? Or for their characters to be used in another person's writing (as has happened with Ian Fleming and Agatha Christie)? The voice over artist is giving a performance. When they die, the options are to scrap the character altogether, remove his work and re-cast, have someone else do an impersonation, or have AI do an impersonation. Why is using AI (with permission) the 'disrespectful' option? When actors died mid-film in pre-AI days, they used stand-ins and editing to cover for it. Was that wrong? --- You'll see motivational pictures about working hundred hour weeks/Well, it only applies to those who are operating at a really basic level ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dark_Arbron 10/13/23 7:30:08 AM #46: |
Punished_Blinx posted...
the concept of a new voice actor getting million dollar contract will be impossible. Voice actors rarely get paid anywhere near that much anyway. They need to unionise. --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kaiganeer 10/13/23 7:32:09 AM #47: |
majin_nemesis posted... And you know that how?because he's dead, he no longer exists and is unable to have an opinion on the matter ... Copied to Clipboard!
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R_Jackal 10/13/23 7:42:30 AM #48: |
Legit told everyone I knew there was no way that was a human voice and they told me he was just replaced. Have no idea how people can be so bad at spotting it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Prismsblade 10/13/23 7:44:48 AM #49: |
majin_nemesis posted...
more jobs and more real things made by real humansWe're at near record unemployment now so what are you talking about? Humanity has never in the slightest had difficulty creating new jobs for themselves regardless of our technological advancements the past 2 century's. AI will not charge that and idk why people are so quick to believe otherwise because some moron on TV said so. --- 3DS FC:3368-5403-9633 Name: Kaizer PSN: Blackkaizer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rika_Furude 10/13/23 7:46:00 AM #50: |
Prismsblade posted... AI will not charge thatyou dont actually understand what Ai is, do you ... Copied to Clipboard!
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