Current Events > Israel/Palestine War: Live Update Thread (Invasion)

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VFalcone
10/13/23 1:56:52 AM
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Opening with a take from a dumbass redditor
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DUKLegend
10/13/23 2:04:58 AM
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The (little) good that comes out of this is that people are finally waking the fuck up about Israel. I'm hoping CE also comes around to it too. I know most here mean the best, but they need to know where the power currently lies, why we're here to begin with. A little perspective shift helps. It's not even about good or bad. The story is about the oppressed vs oppressors. I feel for the Israeli people. They don't deserve to die, but I feel far more for the Palestinian people who grew up to a life filled with violence (reminder: Average age of Gaza = 18. There's reason for that) that drove them to commit horrible horrible deeds. Israel, however, has the power here to stop most of everything. And no, eradication of an entire people ain't it.
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VFalcone
10/13/23 2:10:46 AM
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Death Toll:
  • 1,300 Israeli civilians dead. 247 IDF soldiers. Demographics unknown
  • 1,537 Palestinians civilians dead. 500 children, 276 women, 761 men. Hamas numbers unknown
  • Civilians and UN members given 24hrs to flee from Northern Gaza
  • Gaza has no electricity, gas, water, or food imports coming in
  • IDF invasion force imminent. 360,000 deployed troops.
https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-
news-hamas-war-10-13-23/index.html

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2023/10/11/israel-hamas-war-
live-gaza-faces-growing-humanitarian-catastrophe
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DUKLegend
10/13/23 2:11:08 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEdGcej-6D0&ab_channel=AJ%2B

This is how life is in West Bank. This is a life PRIOR to the events that recently happened if you were Palestinian and COOPERATED with Israel. Imagine how Gaza has been treated now if this is what being treated good is there.
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Trumble
10/13/23 2:12:06 AM
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It's also worth noting that unlike Palestine who have no say in their government, Israel's is democratically elected and the people have had plenty of opportunity to vote them out, so it's not like their people are completely innocent. Not to the extent of justifying violence against them, but I'd certianly lose no sleep over it if Israel were placed under very very severe sanctions that impact average people there.

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Dark_Arbron
10/13/23 2:13:27 AM
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When did the 24 hour window begin?

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FortuneCookie
10/13/23 2:15:21 AM
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Can we air-drop that Redditor into Gaza so that they can show people the way to go? I feel like they would make a good person to lead the evacuation.

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VFalcone
10/13/23 2:16:19 AM
#8:


Dark_Arbron posted...
When did the 24 hour window begin?
Oldest articles I could find about it are from 3hrs ago
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Necronmon
10/13/23 2:17:02 AM
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It's also worth noting that unlike Palestine who have no say in their government, Israel's is democratically elected and the people have had plenty of opportunity to vote them out, so it's not like their people are completely innocent. Not to the extent of justifying violence against them, but I'd certianly lose no sleep over it if Israel were placed under very very severe sanctions that impact average people there.

" Palestine's pepole are just victims but Israel's pepole knew what was going on so they deserve to suffer." Oh that's sure not sounding bias at all....

Wake up...the majority of the world's powers are siding with Israel. I don't want mass genocide either but its clear who the losers of this struggle are...and the suffering will only end when Palestine just admits they can't or ever win this and that resisting will just mean more futile suffering for all.
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Dark_Arbron
10/13/23 2:17:45 AM
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VFalcone posted...
Oldest articles I could find about it are from 3hrs ago

So itll run out around 10-11am tomorrow my time (currently 2:17pm Oct 13).

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VFalcone
10/13/23 2:21:40 AM
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Necronmon posted...
" Palestine's pepole are just victims but Israel's pepole knew what was going on so they deserve to suffer." Oh that's sure not sounding bias at all....

Wake up...the majority of the world's powers are siding with Israel. I don't want mass genocide either but its clear who the losers of this struggle are...and the suffering will only end when Palestine just admits they can't or ever win this and that resisting will just mean more futile suffering for all.
This is why I think there be so much bloodshed. For many Palestinians this is probably the final "Do or Die"/"Now or Never" scenario where they will have to make a final choice to fight and probably die, or basically be subjugated for the rest of time. It's definitely not an easy decision. And they can't really flee either.

I personally think the majority of citizens won't want to be under Israeli rule and may try to fight. Even if they only have rocks. That's the worst part.
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TripleDouble
10/13/23 2:23:12 AM
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Is this an Islam vs Jewish dilemma or is it deeper

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Dark_Arbron
10/13/23 2:24:24 AM
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Israels 80+ years of systematic oppression of Palestinian territory and its people being a case of why did you make me hit you? is certainly a take

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TripleDouble
10/13/23 2:24:53 AM
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Dark_Arbron posted...
Israels 80+ years of systematic oppression of Palestinian territory and its people being a case of why did you make me hit you? is certainly a take
Thanks

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Dark_Arbron
10/13/23 2:25:34 AM
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TripleDouble posted...
Thanks

I wasnt directing that at you. It was in reference to post 9.

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Necronmon
10/13/23 2:26:34 AM
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This is why I think there be so much bloodshed. For many Palestinians this is probably the final "Do or Die"/"Now or Never" scenario where they will have to make a final choice to fight and probably die, or basically be subjugated for the rest of time. It's definitely not an easy decision. And they can't really flee either.

I personally think the majority of citizens won't want to be under Israeli rule and may try to fight. Even if they only have rocks. That's the worst part.

Then like the Native Americans they will be further and further broken until its impossible for them to cause anymore harm, and till the point where they are unable to deny that they are the losers of the conflict and don't get to decide how things go. You either accept reality or pay the price for causing more harm over futile chaos. Innocents dying is something that should be avoided, but its even more native to think you can shoot and kill someone and not pay any price.

Make no mistake, its horrible that Hamas uses innocents as a shield but they will keep causing others to suffer as long as they are allowed to do so, and the harm it takes to remove there threat is lesser over all then allowing them to keep killing and hiding behind others again and again.

Israels 80+ years of systematic oppression of Palestinian territory and its people being a case of why did you make me hit you? is certainly a take

And pepole still forget that Israel was formed out of a reaction to the Holocaust and the centuries of repression the Jews had been dealt with all over the world, getting the land back from what was taken from them in the first place.
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Punished_Blinx
10/13/23 2:27:32 AM
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Even if the people there wanna leave would Hamas let them?

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VFalcone
10/13/23 2:33:14 AM
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Necronmon posted...
Then like the Native Americans they will be further and further broken until its impossible to deny that they are the losers of the conflict and don't get to decide how things go. You either accept reality or pay the price for causing more harm over futile chaos. Innocents dying is something that should be avoided, but its even more native to think you can shoot and kill someone and not pay any price.

Make no mistake, its horrible that Hamas uses innocents as a shield but they will keep causing others to suffer as long as they are allowed to do so, and the harm it takes to remove there threat is lesser over all then allowing them to kill killing and hiding behind others again and again.
Did you just blame the Native Americans for getting annihilated?
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DUKLegend
10/13/23 2:34:39 AM
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Necronmon posted...
And pepole still forget that Israel was formed out of a reaction to the Holocaust and the centuries of repression the Jews had been dealt with all over the world, getting the land back from what was taken from them in the first place.

But that's not happening now, at least here in Israel, is it?

We aren't saying "kill all Jews" here. We're saying DON'T kill Palestinians. Major difference. Israel government ending apartheid and stopping expansion is in the best interest of both Palestinians and yes, the security of the Israeli people as well.
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Necronmon
10/13/23 2:36:14 AM
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Did you just blame the Native Americans for getting annihilated?

No...its merely the reality of what happens when a weaker force keeps fighting a stronger one. Regardless of what side was morality superior, the one with the superior power won and struggling only caused more suffering.

There's a point where being defiant of reality, even if your side is morally right just leads to nothing but total destruction.

If Hamas gave a damn about its pepole they would surrender...after a 1000 deaths no nation would EVER allow those who did it to keep existing right next to them.

Even the Axis powers cared enough about there countries to stop fighting so that everyone did not die.

You could say that Nazi Germany had some legit reasons for saying that the other European nations repressed them after world War one with the unfair exploitive Treaty of Versailles, and that they were," getting revenge." But does that mean they had a excuse for all they did in World War 2? The only real answer is hell no.

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DUKLegend
10/13/23 2:43:48 AM
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Necronmon posted...
No...its merely the reality of what happens when a weaker force keeps fighting a stronger one. Regardless of what side was morality superior, the one with the superior power won and struggling only caused more suffering.

There's a point where being defiant of reality, even if your side is morally right just leads to nothing but total destruction.

If Hamas gave a damn about its pepole they would surrender...after a 1000 deaths no nation would EVER allow those who did it to keep existing right next to them.

I see your point from a logical side. Submit to the greater power and you might find preservation, sure. The problem is, at this point, with their living condition and the mere fact that most die young anyway whether there's an active sweeping one day genocide or otherwise, this would be more a case where Gazans might be choosing to die with some semblance of power to fight back than die as they have been anyway for the past few decades.
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Foppe
10/13/23 2:47:26 AM
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TripleDouble posted...
Is this an Islam vs Jewish dilemma or is it deeper
Muslims and Jews lived in peace in the same region most of the time between the crusades and WWI.
There was a period of ~100 years when the Ottoman Empire went corrupt when it was dangerous to be a Jew living there, but it changed to the better.
Right before the WWI, tens of thousand of Jews moved to the place and started to build "a new Jewish community", but they got kicked out when WWI started because they came from enemy countries.
Then a few Jewish terrorist organizations attacked Muslims in the area before UK said "fuck you guys, you Muslims can live here, here and here, while the Jews can live here".
The Muslims disliked it, and attacked the newly created Israel, and lost.
Since then both sides have done sneak attacks and started wars, and Israel have won.
So there are a lot of distrust because of bad history between them, which they blame on religion.

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VFalcone
10/13/23 3:10:22 AM
#23:


Here is a livestream from Gaza. People seem to be... not all that bothered???

https://www.youtube.com/live/IcPPJqKsTR8
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Ricemills
10/13/23 3:14:10 AM
#24:


VFalcone posted...
Here is a livestream from Gaza. People seem to be... not all that bothered???

https://www.youtube.com/live/IcPPJqKsTR8

Living in a hellhole for your whole time would do that.
They probably stopped caring, either die now or die later in more suffering condition.

Did anyone expect them to have a happy life after being forcefully relocated, with all their daily needs fulfilled?

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VFalcone
10/13/23 3:18:47 AM
#25:


Ricemills posted...
Living in a hellhole for your whole time would do that.
They probably stopped caring, either die now or die later in more suffering condition.

Did anyone expect them to have a happy life after being forcefully relocated, with all their daily needs fulfilled?
Seriously... Imminent Israeli invasion of 360,000 IDF soldiers is just Friday to them, apparently.
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Butterfiles
10/13/23 3:26:26 AM
#26:


VFalcone posted...
Opening with a take from a dumbass redditor
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/4/4/AAb-t6AAE7ao.jpg

*Displaced by hurricanes* makes it sound like he was heading thousands of miles away when you know this big brain genius just had to drive to the Walmart one county over for a few days

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IceCreamOnStero
10/13/23 3:32:47 AM
#27:


VFalcone posted...
Here is a livestream from Gaza. People seem to be... not all that bothered???

https://www.youtube.com/live/IcPPJqKsTR8
They've lived in a hopeless situation for decades. Moving from one hellhole to another probably isn't such a shocking proposition to them

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IceCreamOnStero
10/13/23 3:34:33 AM
#28:


Necronmon posted...
" Palestine's pepole are just victims but Israel's pepole knew what was going on so they deserve to suffer." Oh that's sure not sounding bias at all....

Wake up...the majority of the world's powers are siding with Israel. I don't want mass genocide either but its clear who the losers of this struggle are...and the suffering will only end when Palestine just admits they can't or ever win this and that resisting will just mean more futile suffering for all.
Palestine surrendering will do anything but ending the suffering.

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Tora_Sami
10/13/23 3:39:16 AM
#29:


VFalcone posted...
Here is a livestream from Gaza. People seem to be... not all that bothered???

https://www.youtube.com/live/IcPPJqKsTR8

What do you want them to do? Be panicking and yelling every second?

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VFalcone
10/13/23 4:14:54 AM
#30:


Tora_Sami posted...
What do you want them to do? Be panicking and yelling every second?
Well no... but I was expecting more urgency. I guess they're mostly just going to accept what happens after all.
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darkace77450
10/13/23 4:28:22 AM
#31:


VFalcone posted...
Opening with a take from a dumbass redditor
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/4/4/AAb-t6AAE7ao.jpg

Does Allstate offer IDF airstrike coverage?
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Takuya_Lee
10/13/23 4:31:47 AM
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darkace77450 posted...
Does Allstate offer IDF airstrike coverage?

Let me check...

....I just got laughed out of the AllState office. So that's a no

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divot1338
10/13/23 4:39:31 AM
#33:


VFalcone posted...
Opening with a take from a dumbass redditor
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/4/4/AAb-t6AAE7ao.jpg
That is a deeply stupid person.

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darkace77450
10/13/23 4:47:11 AM
#34:


When people say we need police reform in the US, detractors counter by saying you don't tear down everything because of a few bad apples. I suspect those same people have no problem with Israel flattening swaths of Gaza, injuring or displacing tens of thousands of innocent people in the process, to root out Hamas.
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Dark_Arbron
10/13/23 4:49:16 AM
#35:


darkace77450 posted...
When people say we need police reform in the US, detractors counter by saying you don't tear down everything because of a few bad apples. I suspect those same people have no problem with Israel flattening swaths of Gaza, injuring or displacing tens of thousands of innocent people in the process, to root out Hamas.

This isnt the point but that phrase never made sense to me. One bad apple very much does spoil the bunch. Leave a rotten apple in the barrel and see what happens to the healthy ones.

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Tora_Sami
10/13/23 5:11:47 AM
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The live stream seems to have something happen. There is explosion sounds and smoke now. I think it's beginning.

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Ricemills
10/13/23 5:17:30 AM
#37:


Oh shit it's Friday.
Palestinians will be out for a Friday prayer at mosques.
It would he horrible if they're bombing the mosque full of people. I seriously hope that wouldn't happen.

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VFalcone
10/13/23 5:20:35 AM
#38:


Not in the warzone but connected events that happened yesterday. So much unbridled anger all over.

"Protesters clash in Kirkland, Washington over Israel/Palestine" (8h ago)
https://streamable.com/3m66v5

"Professors Cornel West and Alan Dershowitz have a heated argument about Israel/Palestine on air" (14h ago)
https://streamable.com/m3bc7w

"SkyNews Anchor and former Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett argue about Israeli/Palestinian babies on air" (16h ago)
https://streamable.com/iypkk7
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Tora_Sami
10/13/23 5:22:45 AM
#39:


There is some white stuff in the sky raining down. Might be leaflets and the explosion earlier was a warning shot.

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Tora_Sami
10/13/23 5:27:15 AM
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Definitely leaflets, can't read it but I'm sure it's a warning.https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/9/9/AAfRzvAAE7bf.jpg

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darkace77450
10/13/23 5:28:02 AM
#41:


VFalcone posted...
"Professors Cornel West and Alan Dershowitz have heated a argument about Israel/Palestine on air" (14h ago)
https://streamable.com/m3bc7w

Dershowitz just straight up said he cares more about Hamas killing Israeli children than Palestinian children. All life is precious, but apparently some life is more precious than others.
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divot1338
10/13/23 5:29:45 AM
#42:


Tora_Sami posted...
There is some white stuff in the sky raining down. Might be leaflets and the explosion earlier was a warning shot.
If youre talking about in Gaza, they often fire an initial warning round before the regular ones. Its like a mormal artillery shell only it has no explosives and only a small amount of tiny pellets that are intended to knock against the roof (prior to blowing it to hell).

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Hornezz
10/13/23 5:30:01 AM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/0/0/AACpnzAAE7bg.jpg
A quick google lens translation. Leaflets seem to be a call for evacuation

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ai123
10/13/23 5:34:30 AM
#44:


Dark_Arbron posted...
This isnt the point but that phrase never made sense to me. One bad apple very much does spoil the bunch. Leave a rotten apple in the barrel and see what happens to the healthy ones.
The full phrase really is 'one bad apple spoils the barrel'.

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pinky0926
10/13/23 5:36:51 AM
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No matter how many times i read about this, no matter how many opinions and historical context and stories I hear, I never have any idea how to feel about this conflict other than complete senselessness.

I'm almost envious of people who are certain about there being one right and one wrong side in this.

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Hornezz
10/13/23 5:44:05 AM
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UN says Israel's evacuation order of 1.1 million Palestinians in Gaza is 'impossible'

Mr Dujarric said the UN "considers it impossible for such a movement to take place without devastating humanitarian consequences".

https://news.sky.com/story/israel-hamas-war-sunak-urges-netanyahu-to-protect-civil
ians-in-its-fightback-as-palestinians-told-to-move-to-the-south-of-gaza-12983536


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Foppe
10/13/23 5:57:13 AM
#47:


Hornezz posted...
Mr Dujarric said the UN "considers it impossible for such a movement to take place without devastating humanitarian consequences".
Israel:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/6/9/AAc9UyAADiVd.jpg

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Ferarri619
10/13/23 6:09:59 AM
#48:


Ok so this is the real part 2 thread?
Anyway, Hamas claims IDF airstrikes killed 13 Israeli hostages.

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Tora_Sami
10/13/23 6:13:49 AM
#49:


Ferarri619 posted...
Ok so this is the real part 2 thread?
Anyway, Hamas claims IDF airstrikes killed 13 Israeli hostages.

Yeah the other one was compromised, in my opinion.

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Tora_Sami
10/13/23 6:22:36 AM
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Holy shit the alarms are going off now! It's going down now!

Edit: well nothing happened....shit is crazy. I be so fuckin scared.

Edit 2: apparently it was the Israeli alarm not the Gaza alarm.

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