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10/10/23 3:02:12 PM
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emblem-man
10/10/23 5:09:53 PM
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How..
It's so fucking simple, denounce the violence of Hamas.

Wtf is this

https://twitter.com/Scott_Wiener/status/1711820123408138416?t=izqJaDSKopA1dA2KNHcf7Q&s=19
https://twitter.com/Scott_Wiener/status/1711817161503900062?t=nsivbdj_y_UF6ycrT895jg&s=19

https://twitter.com/Scott_Wiener/status/1711419658002125013?t=YyFF49ELcWradXkjxNhahA&s=19

https://twitter.com/politicalelle/status/1711236782379991284?t=UO1d99pWtLqrMJyyITU6rQ&s=19

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/1/3/AADgb_AAE665.jpg

Just do vile. How do you include the fucking paratroopers in your statement?!

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MarcoRubio
10/10/23 5:10:21 PM
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...tag

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Blue_Inigo
10/10/23 5:11:49 PM
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Isreal should stop killing innocent people

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Hayame_Zero
10/10/23 5:12:41 PM
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It's not even an organization, it's a movement. Any "branch" that uses BLM as a name to make a statement or take donations can do more harm than good for the ideology.

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pnut027
10/10/23 5:12:43 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
Isreal should stop killing innocent people


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Solar_Crimson
10/10/23 5:13:52 PM
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They're not wrong about Palestanians being systematically oppressed by the Israeli government.

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Blue_Inigo
10/10/23 5:13:59 PM
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KanWan posted...
No collective group wins in these times

even if they both sides this thing youd get someone saying bOtH sIdES

nobody wins
It really is an all around fucked situation

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emblem-man
10/10/23 5:15:42 PM
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I agree and that's why it angers me so much. Racists are going to hate BLM no matter what but sooo much goodwill that was earned is going down the drain because you just won't denounce the killing of civilians. So fucking stupid.

Even DSA. At least someone like AOC is actually making a good distinction of condemning Hamas and the violence while making it clear she supports Palestinians. So simple, yet so many can not do it. It's infuriating

AOC:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/1/6/AADgb_AAE668.jpg

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luigi33
10/10/23 5:16:37 PM
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Per usual, progressives have the most based takes yet the most terrible messaging.

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emblem-man
10/10/23 5:17:07 PM
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Agreed. Which is why it's so stupid how these organizations are literally conflating the 2. Like wtf, why would they imply this attack is done by Palestinians.

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emblem-man
10/10/23 5:20:52 PM
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This group obviously seems to think Hamas and Palestine are one and the same

https://twitter.com/Scott_Wiener/status/1711820123408138416?t=izqJaDSKopA1dA2KNHcf7Q&s=19

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emblem-man
10/10/23 5:22:08 PM
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luigi33 posted...
Per usual, progressives have the most based takes yet the most terrible messaging.

This isn't even just messaging. No amount of bad phrasing leads you to make statements like these.

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HHH_is_the_game
10/10/23 5:22:14 PM
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The worst one by far is the last one

Their resistance must not be condemned

WHAT? lol. TIL beheading babies should not be condemned

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streamofthesky
10/10/23 5:23:39 PM
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It's fucking frightening how hateful and Antisemitic the far left has become. It's bad enough the far right welcomes the KKK, now both extremes want Jews dead.
I recall seeing something from Harvard, too. EDIT: Oh, I thought the last pic was the 4th tweet. It is in the TC's post.

I genuinely hope that all these "progressives" eventually get the Hamas-like government that they so dream of. I'm sure they'll just love it.
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darkace77450
10/10/23 5:24:51 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
They're not wrong about Palestanians being systematically oppressed by the Israeli government.

There's an appropriate time to criticize a country for its sins. The day after said country is targeted by a terror attack that indiscriminately massacred more than a thousand men, women, and children isn't it.
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Irony
10/10/23 5:27:30 PM
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emblem-man posted...
This group obviously seems to think Hamas and Palestine are one and the same

https://twitter.com/Scott_Wiener/status/1711820123408138416?t=izqJaDSKopA1dA2KNHcf7Q&s=19
The Israeli government also believes that

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Damn_Underscore
10/10/23 5:27:46 PM
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streamofthesky posted...
l genuinely hope that all these "progressives" eventually get the Hamas-like government that they so dream of. I'm sure they'll just love it.

This is treating politics like team sports too. A stupid and toxic group shouldnt change your opinion of the issues. The issues are what matter, and they matter a lot because they inevitably affect millions of people.

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legendary_zell
10/10/23 5:30:49 PM
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darkace77450 posted...
There's an appropriate time to criticize a country for its sins. The day after said country is targeted by a terror attack that indiscriminately massacred more than a thousand men, women, and children isn't it.

I disagree, that time is all the time. Especially when the two things are so closely connected, to do otherwise is myopic and is incredibly convenient for one of the two sinners. That's exactly the distinction that both OP and some of the posts they've included missed.

Some of those posts in OP are simply connecting the events to Israel's policies that create the conditions for terrorism, while others seem to be straight up supporting terrorism. OP and that Senator are conflating the two.

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10/10/23 5:30:55 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
This is treating politics like team sports too. A stupid and toxic group shouldnt change your opinion of the issues. The issues are what matter, and they matter a lot because they inevitably affect millions of people.
Wish more people would get this

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gmanthebest
10/10/23 5:31:17 PM
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HHH_is_the_game posted...
The worst one by far is the last one

WHAT? lol. TIL beheading babies should not be condemned
"A desperate act of self-defense."

Yeah, those babies were just asking for it

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Prestoff
10/10/23 5:37:52 PM
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For fuck sakes, just say "I support Palestine, but do no condone the actions of Hamas." That's what my Muslim friends are saying, it's not fucking hard to do so.

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emblem-man
10/10/23 5:38:28 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
This is treating politics like team sports too. A stupid and toxic group shouldnt change your opinion of the issues. The issues are what matter, and they matter a lot because they inevitably affect millions of people.
That's why it's so annoying. These groups care more about cosplaying as faux revolutionaries that they are risking their future ability to enact actual policy changes.

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emblem-man
10/10/23 5:39:32 PM
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Prestoff posted...
For fuck sakes, just say "I support Palestine, but do no condone the actions of Hamas." That's what my Muslim friends are saying, it's not fucking hard to do so.
It's sooo simple!! So so simple. I can't fathom how so many are failing at something so easy.

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Crimsoness
10/10/23 5:40:22 PM
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Fucking disgusting

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creativerealms
10/10/23 5:42:46 PM
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Yeah condemn the terrorists and stand with Palestine. You can do both. Only doing the later makes you look bad.

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KLouD_KoNNeCteD
10/10/23 5:44:47 PM
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Exactly, thank you.
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StealThisSheen
10/10/23 5:45:40 PM
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KLouD_KoNNeCteD posted...
Exactly, thank you.

Right, but these organizations are directly supporting Hamas by doing things like posting images of paratroopers.

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creativerealms
10/10/23 5:46:59 PM
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KLouD_KoNNeCteD posted...
Exactly, thank you.
Problem is they should say they condemn the actions of Hamas. Sure in a normal situation you shouldn't have to spell everything out at a time like this it's smarter to be safe.

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Delirious_Beard
10/10/23 5:47:17 PM
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I swear most online leftists are just absolutely allergic to the concept of optics

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emblem-man
10/10/23 5:57:47 PM
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https://twitter.com/Yair_Rosenberg/status/1711790931299426802?t=wxevkKD81AYLIjmJ3HwDsg&s=19

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Irony
10/10/23 5:59:04 PM
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emblem-man posted...
https://twitter.com/Yair_Rosenberg/status/1711790931299426802?t=wxevkKD81AYLIjmJ3HwDsg&s=19
Wonder how long he's going to last

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darkace77450
10/10/23 6:02:06 PM
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emblem-man posted...
https://twitter.com/Yair_Rosenberg/status/1711790931299426802?t=wxevkKD81AYLIjmJ3HwDsg&s=19

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Smashingpmkns
10/10/23 6:02:23 PM
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Tbf a lot of the stuff online has been blatant propaganda. That German woman that was said to have been raped and murdered is currently at a hospital in Gaza and she's in contact with her family. And I'm pretty sure there's no proof of baby beheadings. Probably a good time to maybe take everything being reported with a grain of salt.

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emblem-man
10/10/23 6:09:48 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Tbf a lot of the stuff online has been blatant propaganda. That German woman that was said to have been raped and murdered is currently at a hospital in Gaza and she's in contact with her family. And I'm pretty sure there's no proof of baby beheadings. Probably a good time to maybe take everything being reported with a grain of salt.


Disinformation is bad, especially ones that are used to sour people up emotionally, in an already difficult time. Fully agreed. Highlighting and focusing on the rape of women has a certain pathos, I understand that.

But..nothing changes from knowing that babies weren't beheaded. That changes absolutely nothing. They were killed in a barbaric act of terrorism. The baby being killed by a gun shot or a beheading makes NO difference to anything. None of what happened becomes better by us finding out that the women weren't raped or babies weren't beheaded. It shouldn't be brought up if it hasn't been verified, and if we find out it didn't happen, it does not minimize anything that has happened

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PballDepot
10/10/23 6:13:10 PM
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What happened did they falsely claim 40 babies were decapacitated or something

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CryoForceOmelet
10/10/23 6:13:21 PM
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Delirious_Beard posted...
I swear most online leftists are just absolutely allergic to the concept of optics
What other time is there to say "don't bomb Palestine into cinders"? Netanyahu is using ethnic cleansing language. There's no way to take a side in this conflict and keep your image clean. There's too many decades of hatred and oppression. You don't need to say "I support Palestine but trust me guys, I still think killing babies is bad" any more than you'd need to clarify the point if you took the other position in regards to Israel's crimes against humanity. You certainly don't see the anti-Palestine camp doing it. They're pretty uniform in cheering for obliteration, in step with Netanyahu.

Well then again, I guess maybe you should clarify that, because it's actually pretty doubtful for them

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Smashingpmkns
10/10/23 6:15:50 PM
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emblem-man posted...
Disinformation is bad, especially ones that are used to sour people up emotionally, in an already difficult time. Fully agreed. Highlighting and focusing on the rape of women has a certain pathos, I understand that.

But..nothing changes from knowing that babies weren't beheaded. That changes absolutely nothing. They were killed in a barbaric act of terrorism. The baby being killed by a gun shot or a beheading makes NO difference to anything. None of what happened becomes better by us finding out that the women weren't raped or babies weren't beheaded. It shouldn't be brought up if it hasn't been verified, and if we find out it didn't happen, it does not minimize anything that has happened
Idk I think a lot changes. they're making shit up in order to garner support from foreign countries, which isnt great. It wouldn't even be the first time that misinformation about rape and infanticide was used to justify the US getting involved in a war.

This is all some old playbook shit and you'd think the general public would be wise enough to be more discerning after 9/11.

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Smashingpmkns
10/10/23 6:17:10 PM
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PballDepot posted...
What happened did they falsely claim 40 babies were decapacitated or something
Some reporter claimed that 40 babies were decapitated. Then she said IDF soldiers told her that 40 babies were decapitated. Then the IDF made a public memo that there has not been any evidence of baby decaptitations.

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emblem-man
10/10/23 6:17:50 PM
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PballDepot posted...
What happened did they falsely claim 40 babies were decapacitated or something

From what I understand, some are doing a "well acktually it wasn't 40 babies, it was only x babies" and some are saying there's no proof of any beheadings of babies

As if any of that changes the core information that they were targeted and indiscriminately killed.


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Irony
10/10/23 6:18:21 PM
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PballDepot posted...
What happened did they falsely claim 40 babies were decapacitated or something
Source: Trust me bro

Basically

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emblem-man
10/10/23 6:23:10 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Idk I think a lot changes. they're making shit up in order to garner support from foreign countries, which isnt great. It wouldn't even be the first time that misinformation about rape and infanticide was used to justify the US getting involved in a war.

This is all some old playbook shit and you'd think the general public would be wise enough to be more discerning after 9/11.

I guess there are people who are apathetic with the hundreds of innocents, including babies being, killed until they found out the babies were beheaded as well.
I'm not being facetious here, I'll admit that might be a thing. It's why centering children and sexual assaults in attacks like this works.

I just think it shouldn't matter and the scale of what happened is bad enough already where this level of info shouldn't matter.

But again, yes. We should be careful of disinformation about this.

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