Current Events > Cop beat a man, for asking them to mask up around his immunocompromised child.

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cjsdowg posted...

Why would the cop cover the camera?

Chaos is a cop apologist.

ai123 posted...

Covering the camera for 'officer safety' is suspicious as hell and should not be a thing.

I would imagine thats so somebody inside cant know exactly where people are standing to start shooting through the door/wall.

Tenlaar posted...

I would imagine thats so somebody inside cant know exactly where people are standing to start shooting through the door/wall.

Wat

Wait . . . in a thread about terrible cop violence, people are saying that they want to see footage of a woman being dragged out of her house by cops because she was rude?

This board is a weird place sometimes.

Fry that fucking pig

Tenlaar posted...

I would imagine thats so somebody inside cant know exactly where people are standing to start shooting through the door/wall.

Stupidest shit Ive read all day. Congrats.

How many blows did the cop land who like the other cop was holding the victim's hands???

Tenlaar posted...

I would imagine thats so somebody inside cant know exactly where people are standing to start shooting through the door/wall.

There's not a chance that you actually believe this

Turbam posted...

There's not a chance that you actually believe this

People sometimes attempt to flee or react violently to warrants being served. Not letting people inside see exactly where everybody outside is standing or what theyre doing seems like a pretty straight forward tactical consideration.

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Tenlaar posted...

People sometimes attempt to flee or react violently to warrants being served. Not letting people inside see exactly where everybody outside is standing or what theyre doing seems like a pretty straight forward tactical consideration.

These people aren't fucking hacking into bodycams.

DarthAragorn posted...

These people aren't fucking hacking into bodycams.

He knows. He is being contrarian and wrong intentionally to upset people.

Cops keep treating situations as sunk costs fallacies.

Assessing a situation and deescalating are not an option when you think that way. They don't want to cede any ground or admit they are wrong. They'd rather the station handle that and if you have to spend a night or two in jail, that's not their problem.

Tenlaar posted...

I would imagine thats so somebody inside cant know exactly where people are standing to start shooting through the door/wall.

LMAO just when I thought you couldn't stoop any lower.

And yet you'll still act baffled that you have the reputation you do.

MC_BatCommander posted...

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Cats!

Zero_Destroyer posted...

He knows. He is being contrarian and wrong intentionally to upset people.

Defend all fascist acts
Boot lick always

pinky0926 posted...

Nah bro, you don't use force against a cop unless you're planning to unalive yourself

Then that means we have no right to defend ourselves from their brutality & oppression due to their profession and it throws out the right-wing argument that our firearms are meant to protect us from government brutality and oppression.

Though we know that's always just been them fantasizing about killing Dem government officials anyways because they never once threaten using them when Republicans blatantly take their rights away and talk about turning this country into an oppressive Christo-fascist shithole.

Donald Trump even literally said "seize the guns, worry about due process later" after the Parkland shooting and they only support him even harder. And that's not even getting into how the dude literally tried to overthrow democracy and make himself a king with his insurrection.

Also, there are very limited cases of cops breaking into homes with no-knock warrants as criminals would in the middle of the night and due to castle doctrine the homeowner shot and killed the cop, somehow without the cops killing him in response, and he was found justified in his force via the scenario. But other than that, it's very unlikely you can defend yourself from their violence without dying.

And that's extra fucked up considering their profession is funded by taxpayers, so they are essentially brutalizing and killing their employers, the only kind of context for that where it is seemingly "ok" by societal standards. They should be made to feel like our servants, not that they can assault and execute us with the historical precedence they're likely to get away with it.

Tenlaar posted...

Such a fucked up response to a completely reasonable request. Cop should definitely get some time for that and the other cops should get marks against them for refusing to put on masks and not stopping the other cop long before he got to 13 punches. Masking up should not be something first responders are allowed to refuse when dealing with immunocompromised people.

Agreed

name_unknown posted...

Defend all fascist acts
Boot lick always

The Tenlaar way of life.

ai123 posted...

Wait . . . in a thread about terrible cop violence, people are saying that they want to see footage of a woman being dragged out of her house by cops because she was rude?

This board is a weird place sometimes.

This board? 261 had plenty of blue-lipped apologists constantly looking to justify police violence and brutality against civilians.

There is a sizeable portion of U.S. society in general that just seems to endorse a quasi-police state brutalizing and even executing the civilian populace for merely disrespecting them, not cooperating, or fleeing.

I can only conclude it's the main reason we have so much trouble getting legislation holding them with higher accountability instead of our current standards where they're held to less than civilians.

DarthAragorn posted...

These people aren't fucking hacking into bodycams.

Hey now, I did something like this all the time while playing Cyberpunk 2077.

Wait...is reality not Cyberpunk 2077?

archizzy posted...

Not going to lie, I wanted the end of that video to be the cops dragging that loudmouth out of the house.

chaos_knight posted...

Exactly.

Behold, enemies of freedom of speech. There's no law stating you can't be rude to a police officer. Especially when said officer is trespassing and has no right to be there.

Bitch covered up the camera. That's already ill intent. She lied about that being procedure. She lied about having a warrant (Wouldn't have left if she was telling the truth there), and lied about the connection "breaking up".

What guarantees does that civilian have that they were real police officers if there was already a lie about a warrant? What guarantee does she have that the alleged officers don't kill her and with the camera covered up, simply claimed that she 'went for a gun'?

"Oops, we had to shoot her because she tried to grab my gun. Oops, we 'forgot' to uncover the camera so you'll just have to take our word for it!"

Fuck that.

Tenlaar posted...

People sometimes attempt to flee or react violently to warrants being served. Not letting people inside see exactly where everybody outside is standing or what theyre doing seems like a pretty straight forward tactical consideration.

What the fuck are you smoking

reminder that Tenlaar is a known racist
dont take dude seriously

Also All Cops Are Bad

Tenlaar posted...

People sometimes attempt to flee or react violently to warrants being served. Not letting people inside see exactly where everybody outside is standing or what theyre doing seems like a pretty straight forward tactical consideration.

Motherfucker this isn't cyberpunk. No one is hacking the cops bodycams and preparing their defense based on the tactical deployment they see.

ScazarMeltex posted...

Motherfucker this isn't cyberpunk. No one is hacking the cops bodycams and preparing their defense based on the tactical deployment they see.

Especially when they could just, like, look out the window.

Trevorkkho posted...

only misdemeanor assault and not even trespassing?

Homeowners didn't let them in till they wear mask, they crossed the property line without a warrant.

When, not if, this man wins a settlement it's going to be paid by the tax payers, not from the police pension fund. And thus this will continue.

DarthAragorn posted...

f***ing scum. Can you imagine if every job gave out paid vacations like candy to everyone that f***s up? Except this isn't even a f***up, this is 100% intentional. Beating a man for f***ing nothing.

The paid leave is fair. Everyone, even cops, are innocent until proven guilty. It's the high rate of "we've investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong" that's the problem.

darkace77450 posted...

Everyone, even cops, are innocent until proven guilty.

My only issue with this is when there's video evidence of literally the whole event.

Like, say we have a video of Trump's 5th avenue assertion. We have the full story, with him saying, "I, Donald J. Trump, am now going to shoot you to death on 5th Avenue, on this the day of xx/xx/xxx", then does it, yet is found innocent because somehow he gets a jury of his cultists, does that mean we should just accept that he's actually innocent when the literal footage shows he's not?

As is this case with this, if the entire incident is documented from start to finish, then even without a jury deciding guilt we have the whole story for our own very eyes to see and without any missing context it's hard to not draw an obvious conclusion just because our legal system says we're not supposed to.

A legal system, I'll remind you, created in a time when they didn't have any sort of recording devices or even the comprehension of such, so a jury of peers was reasonable then, however it's another case of technology getting ahead of the law.

darkace77450 posted...

Everyone, even cops, are innocent until proven guilty.

Not when we have video evidence of the entire act of violence. He is guilty...PERIOD.

darkace77450 posted...

When, not if, this man wins a settlement it's going to be paid by the tax payers, not from the police pension fund. And thus this will continue.

Yep. Until the police themselves are burned for their actions, there's no incentive for them to stop their abuse.

Imagine if I shot someone, was found guilty, and the poster above me paid the price instead. Insane, is it not?

Sandalorn posted...

Not when we have video evidence of the entire act of violence. He is guilty...PERIOD.

You're not disagreeing with me. Having video evidence is proof of guilt, but there's still a process. Someone must review the video evidence before punitive measures are taken. And that's not just for the cop's sake; if procedures aren't followed, then they get to sue their way into early retirement or back onto the force.

Kradek posted...

This board? 261 had plenty of blue-lipped apologists constantly looking to justify police violence and brutality against civilians.

That's very true, but I just found the juxtaposition in this thread particularly jarring.

My god! That police brutality is disgraceful!

Lol I wish those cops had gone in that woman's house and dragged her out!

Tenlaar posted...

I would imagine thats so somebody inside cant know exactly where people are standing to start shooting through the door/wall.

C'mon Tenlaar.

I know your shtick is defending shitty cops doing shitty things, but this is so asinine of a statement I rolled my eyes so hard they almost fell out of my skull as soon as I read it.

How would a cop blocking their body cam prevent a person inside a dwelling that they're currently dealing with from knowing where they're currently standing outside? Do these body cams transmit live feeds that any civilian can look up as it happens?

Just say you don't think the cops are wrong for covering their cams when they commit crimes, fuck.

Wonder if Tenlarr will actually explain what the fuck he meant or he's realized that post was just so goddamn stupid that even he can't argue for it.

archizzy posted...

Not going to lie, I wanted the end of that video to be the cops dragging that loudmouth out of the house.

chaos_knight posted...

Exactly.

What the hell is wrong with you two?

ai123 posted...

That's very true, but I just found the juxtaposition in this thread particularly jarring.

My god! That police brutality is disgraceful!

Lol I wish those cops had gone in that woman's house and dragged her out!

Well, they were 2 different incidents and without properly examining the first page some posters may only be responding to the 2nd and not the first.

And if that was the case, then it implies they didn't disagree with the first case, though they know it would be wrong to side with the cops, and the second case makes them feel like it's easier to side with the cops because the homeowner was being disrespectful.

Murphiroth posted...

Wonder if Tenlarr will actually explain what the fuck he meant or he's realized that post was just so goddamn stupid that even he can't argue for it.

Lmao this

Murphiroth posted...

Wonder if Tenlarr will actually explain what the fuck he meant or he's realized that post was just so goddamn stupid that even he can't argue for it.

He won't be explaining anything for a while.

Umbreon posted...

He won't be explaining anything for a while.

Oh dear.

It's kinda crazy because his first post rightfully condemning this incident had people siding with him due to being the correct opinion.

Then he had to go and be his usual self and now he's suffering the consequences.

Though he normally doesn't suffer consequences for his usual self, so that is surprising.

Cops are your enemy.

The way that cop made that weird grunting sound after each punch is exactly how I remember we would play fight in grade school

darkace77450 posted...

The paid leave is fair. Everyone, even cops, are innocent until proven guilty. It's the high rate of "we've investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong" that's the problem.

IMO there's two options here.

1. Keep paid leave, but if a cop is found guilty they have to pay it all back. If guilty cop doesn't pay it all back, the unpaid amount comes out of pensions.
2. Remove paid leave, provide back pay if cleared of wrongdoing.

Both absolutely require reform in police accountability so the criminal scum are actually found guilty.

Umbreon posted...

He won't be explaining anything for a while.

Tenlaar got suspended again? Whaaaat. No way. I am shocked.

If it was so important for the cops to enter quickly, there is a simple solution

Put on a fucking mask

ai123 posted...

Covering the camera for 'officer safety' is suspicious as hell and should not be a thing.

Depending on the state, it could be in opposition to laws that allow the recording of cops in public places. Which... in not enough places... is usually legal.

Tenlaar posted...

I would imagine thats so somebody inside cant know exactly where people are standing to start shooting through the door/wall.

Imagine is right.

That's the Mad Max fantasy cops are peddled in training and in their culture. Every encounter is a tactical and deadly one where everyone has a gun and you're one sneeze away from "not going home at night."

The same people who support that kind of mindset are going to be the first people on the line to tell a person, "Well, if you look at stats, 0.0000000000000342% of cop interactions are non-violent and even less are lethal, so why do you have to worry?" and gaslight them into thinking any amount of cop violence is acceptable (let alone that there's that little cop violence).

Umbreon posted...

There's no law stating you can't be rude to a police officer. Especially when said officer is trespassing and has no right to be there.

You'd think so, and that's technically true.

But they'll try to disorderly you on top of whatever else they're attempting to detain you over, and the instant you disagree with their disorderly judgment, you're suddenly "resisting" or "disobeying a lawful order," and they have the same carte blanche anyway. Just with more steps.

It's not a great system we have in place.