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brestugo 10/04/23 10:01:18 AM #1: |
https://apnews.com/article/kaiser-health-care-workers-strike-b8b40ce8c082c0b8c4f1c0fb7ec38741
Picketing began Wednesday morning at Kaiser Permanente hospitals as some 75,000 health care workers go on strike in Virginia, California and three other states over wages and staffing shortages, marking the latest major labor unrest in the United States. --- Putin delenda est ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Strider102 10/04/23 10:03:20 AM #2: |
It begins
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Kloe_Rinz 10/04/23 10:03:28 AM #3: |
Hopefully the workers get what they are requesting. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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brestugo 10/04/23 10:06:24 AM #4: |
Kloe_Rinz posted...
Hopefully the workers get what they are requesting. Same. I would imagine the pandemic really exposed a lot of flaws in the industry. --- Putin delenda est ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Aysander 10/04/23 10:10:21 AM #5: |
They need to extend that three days out if it's not long enough to get what they need.
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brestugo 10/04/23 10:26:41 AM #6: |
Aysander posted...
They need to extend that three days out if it's not long enough to get what they need. My guess is that health care workers can't be out too long. They've hopefully calculated the correct amount of time needed to make their point. --- Putin delenda est ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Silver_Patron 10/04/23 10:47:58 AM #7: |
Some people be like, they shouldnt be allowed to strike, because theyre too important to the people they serve and people can die if they dont work.
Sad but true. --- RAIDER NATION Proud member of the silver/black fanbase for life! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Were_Wyrm 10/04/23 10:51:01 AM #8: |
Too important to stop working, not important enough to compensate appropriately.
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Cocytus 10/04/23 11:14:13 AM #9: |
I heard about the strike, but I've never heard of Kaiser.
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YoBlazer 10/04/23 11:23:36 AM #10: |
My sister has been a pediatrician at Kaiser for six years and has been underpaid most of that time, and overworked and unsupported the entire time.
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legendary_zell 10/04/23 11:50:49 AM #11: |
I used to have KP insurance a few years ago, and when I went for a checkup/vaccines, the nurses were the most fed up I'd ever seen. They were openly talking about quitting, being underpaid, leaving the medical profession. So this isn't surprising and I hope they get everything they want.
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brestugo 10/04/23 11:55:32 AM #12: |
Cocytus posted...
I heard about the strike, but I've never heard of Kaiser. Kaiser was a big steel company in CA during WWII. (Warning: oversimplification) They had so many employees, they were able to negotiate better health care prices and services for their employees. In the 1940s, they were already the model for what in the future would be called HMOs. After the steel business faded, the health care operation remained. --- Putin delenda est ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kingdrake2 10/04/23 12:06:24 PM #13: |
Silver_Patron posted...
people can die if they dont work. that's all the big company's fault for raking in record profits and not paying workers enough. --- beware of the mayor (fall guys). ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BearlyWilling 10/04/23 12:15:16 PM #14: |
Makes sense. Kaiser has been shit for years now. What was once convenient for having everything youd need under one roof has been replaced by doctors that try to usher you out the door before youre even in an examination room.
They dont have the time to actually engage with or listen to their patients. Its a five minute appointment followed by them printing out a bunch of useless information and sending you on your way. I have a hiatal hernia that has led to me having crippling reflux and heartburn for years now Im talking heartburn that lasts for 18 to 36 hours straight, keeps me up at night, etc., and every time I go to my doctor, they just up my dosage of pantoprazole. Ive tried pushing to get on the road to surgery to fix this and she just always shoots it down no matter how bad this gets. --- Hmm... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kingdrake2 10/04/23 12:48:55 PM #15: |
BearlyWilling posted...
I have a hiatal hernia that has led to me having crippling reflux and heartburn for years now Im talking heartburn that lasts for 18 to 36 hours straight, keeps me up at night, etc. that's the worse part of it imo. --- beware of the mayor (fall guys). ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MAR10_KarT 10/04/23 2:11:54 PM #16: |
Kaiser has been awful for years now. They're insanely inefficient. Especially with behavior health services.
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hockeybub89 10/04/23 2:13:11 PM #17: |
Solidarity
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kingdrake2 10/04/23 3:30:07 PM #18: |
MAR10_KarT posted...
Especially with behavior health services. they don't realize you treat those problems. impacts the population as a whole for the better. since they don't have to deal with crazy bastards. --- beware of the mayor (fall guys). ... Copied to Clipboard!
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andrewl923 10/04/23 3:41:33 PM #19: |
BearlyWilling posted...
Ive tried pushing to get on the road to surgery to fix this and she just always shoots it down no matter how bad this gets. You need to get a second opinion if you're having health problems. I had a specialist that refused to believe that the problem I was diagnosed with from a ultrasound was affecting my quality of life, so I made an phone appointment with the department for a different specialist. Second specialist took one look at my charts and referred me to the surgical procedure that I wanted. You are your best advocate. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/BigDrew923/wishlist ... Copied to Clipboard!
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brestugo 10/04/23 6:05:13 PM #20: |
hockeybub89 posted...
Solidarity Yeah, the American worker has made every concession to the market and corporations over the years. It hasn't paid off, IMO. --- Putin delenda est ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DerWillZurMacht 10/05/23 3:30:07 AM #21: |
brestugo posted... My guess is that health care workers can't be out too long. They've hopefully calculated the correct amount of time needed to make their point.They can, the government is just going to throw a bitchfit. I know what everyone is going to say. "They're healthcare workers! They have responsibilities! You want the people under their care to diiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeee?" No, I just want them to be paid fairly and have enough staff to help them so they don't die. "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! That's socialismREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dark_Arbron 10/05/23 3:34:47 AM #22: |
As I said in an earlier topic about this, deciding who is and isnt allowed to strike is a precedent we dont ever want to set.
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Kloe_Rinz 10/05/23 4:48:43 AM #23: |
Dark_Arbron posted... As I said in an earlier topic about this, deciding who is and isnt allowed to strike is a precedent we dont ever want to set.It was a precedent already set with rail workers ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dark_Arbron 10/05/23 5:16:56 AM #24: |
Kloe_Rinz posted...
It was a precedent already set with rail workers Bleh Then expect to see that precedent creep into other fields. The definition of essential will be stretched. Denying someone the right to strike means they now have no ability to fight for worker rights. What rights they do have sure as fuck didnt come from capitalists being generous. --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Giacomo_Hawkins 10/05/23 6:27:35 AM #25: |
Excellent timing to do this, shortly before federal government open season for health coverage selection.
Make the news and get federal employees to think twice about who they want to go with. --- Will the little voice in the back of my mind screaming "This is a bad idea" please yield the floor. --Mikey Chivalry be hanged, and so will you. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ShotOJameson 10/06/23 12:47:05 AM #26: |
All these strikes are caused by inflation the middle class is getting screwed
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hockeybub89 10/06/23 12:48:32 AM #28: |
ShotOJameson posted...
All these strikes are caused by inflation the middle class is getting screwedHealthcare workers were treated like shit long before this current wave of inflation. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 10/06/23 12:50:08 AM #29: |
hockeybub89 posted...
Solidarityhttps://youtu.be/2tOkcbI5dvI --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ShotOJameson 10/06/23 12:50:34 AM #30: |
Have they said what they want? I see nothing in this article
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Dark_Arbron 10/06/23 12:55:29 AM #31: |
hockeybub89 posted...
Healthcare workers were treated like shit long before this current wave of inflation. Not to mention long before Covid. Not just in the US either. --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ShotOJameson 10/06/23 1:01:54 AM #32: |
I must say I'm conflicted because my girlfriend who has been diagnosed with stage 4 ovarian cancer has received excellent care from Kaiser and would love to see their team be well compensated but I hope this doesn't cause her not to receive the care she needs.
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Dark_Arbron 10/06/23 1:05:34 AM #33: |
ShotOJameson posted...
I must say I'm conflicted because my girlfriend who has been diagnosed with stage 4 ovarian cancer has received excellent care from Kaiser and would love to see their team be well compensated but I hope this doesn't cause her not to receive the care she needs. Yes, its a fucked up situation. Worse, the assholes in charge will most definitely weaponise situations like yours to smear the striking workers. --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RchHomieQuanChi 10/06/23 1:47:17 AM #34: |
kingdrake2 posted...
that's all the big company's fault for raking in record profits and not paying workers enough. Yup. The solution is simple. Pay your fucking workers. --- I have nothing else to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MAR10_KarT 10/06/23 2:23:16 AM #35: |
Oh no how will Mr. CEO Greg Adams buy another mansion or yacht?!?
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Doe 10/06/23 2:34:27 AM #36: |
Cocytus posted...
I've never heard of Kaiser.https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/6/4/AAcZIZAAE56E.jpg --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY ... Copied to Clipboard!
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brestugo 10/06/23 12:30:27 PM #37: |
ShotOJameson posted...
Have they said what they want? I see nothing in this article wages and staffing shortages, --- Putin delenda est ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sexypwnstar 10/06/23 12:39:18 PM #38: |
kingdrake2 posted...
that's all the big company's fault for raking in record profits and not paying workers enough. Are they really? --- http://i.imgur.com/Su4g5.jpg http://i.imgur.com/21DiJ.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Silver_Patron 10/06/23 1:19:05 PM #39: |
Sexypwnstar posted...
Are they really? They are. Their profits were massive since the pandemic. --- RAIDER NATION Proud member of the silver/black fanbase for life! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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willythemailboy 10/06/23 1:56:54 PM #40: |
Silver_Patron posted...
They are. Their profits were massive since the pandemic.They lost $4.5 billion last year. https://www.healthcaredive.com/news/kaiser-reports-13b- operating-loss-2022-driven-by-expenses-inflation/642595/ --- There are four lights. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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