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Vokrent
10/03/23 8:31:40 PM
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in yet another discord server, people are bitching about race changes and stuff and apparently it's ruined the whole show for them?

why does this matter so much to them?

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RCP3_04
10/04/23 2:01:30 PM
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Vokrent posted...
in yet another discord server, people are bitching about race changes and stuff and apparently it's ruined the whole show for them?

why does this matter so much to them?

Vokrent posted...
in yet another discord server, people are bitching about race changes and stuff and apparently it's ruined the whole show for them?

why does this matter so much to them?
Because theyre incel neckbeards that cry about seeing one or two people, mainly Black, that dont look like them in the media they watch. Thankfully theyre just the minority. Castlevania Nocture continues the quality that the first series of Castlevania brought. Fans love Annette and are hyped up about Alucard
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Baha05
10/04/23 2:06:14 PM
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One hand people like established characters to not deviate from the source.

On the other hand its like the source material doesnt have a lot of character to certain people. OG Annette is basically useless and no one remembers her for shit as much as they remember her younger sister.

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JuanCarlos1
10/04/23 2:09:12 PM
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Her background makes the show even better imo. It was well done.

Ill only take race changes seriously when we're talking about historical figures

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Were_Wyrm
10/04/23 2:12:16 PM
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You would think they would love a show where a white guy with a whip is fighting black vampires.

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Smackems
10/04/23 2:15:13 PM
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Did they make alucard black or something lol

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Seaman_Prime
10/04/23 2:25:56 PM
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Richter has an embarrassing moment where he runs away from the villain out of fright, where the games portray him as battle-hungry vampire slayer who is too strong for his own good and ego
Anyways this show aint for me and thats not a big deal.
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YellowSUV
10/04/23 2:27:17 PM
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I say a short video of 4 characters walking toward the camera with really bad animation.

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Metal_Gear_Raxis
10/04/23 2:27:22 PM
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They did my boy Hector dirty :(

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ArsGoetia
10/04/23 2:33:39 PM
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Smackems posted...
Did they make alucard black or something lol

yea
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Foppe
10/04/23 2:34:57 PM
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Vokrent posted...
in yet another discord server
Ask them?

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Smackems
10/04/23 2:51:26 PM
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I looked it up and it looks like they made a minor character black. Annette. Never heard of em. Whoopty doo

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Zero_Destroyer
10/04/23 2:54:07 PM
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anti-woke people are miserable individuals that actively seek media out to be angry at, and nothing angers them quite like minorities. because they are extremely racist

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mercurydude
10/04/23 3:06:32 PM
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It wouldn't even have mattered if they used an original character that was black instead. The same people would still be complaining. They aren't offended that this was an existing character, they're offended by black skin, period.

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Eab1990
10/04/23 3:07:08 PM
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This needed another topic.

Oh wait, it's one guy bumping both topics with the same post.

Anyway, choppy animation and poorly-timed self-aware humor are among the legitimate complaints.
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WarfireX
10/04/23 3:08:44 PM
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mercurydude posted...
It wouldn't even have mattered if they used an original character that was black instead. The same people would still be complaining. They aren't offended that this was an existing character, they're offended by black skin, period.
That's some of them. Some of them really are finicky video game fans that are angry that they aren't watching someone stream the games.

Over on the cartoon and animation board one guy is complaining that Iris isn't in this series. Iris and most of the women Richter rescued were all throw away characters that he had a single interaction with. Less than 5 minutes long.

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WarfireX
10/04/23 3:09:38 PM
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Eab1990 posted...
This needed another topic.

Oh wait, it's one guy bumping both topics with the same post.

Anyway, choppy animation and poorly-timed self-aware humor are among the legitimate complaints.
I do wish they would tone down everyone swearing like a middle schooler when their parents aren't around. But I enjoyed the first series so I expect to like this one.

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KeeperOfShadows
10/04/23 3:11:56 PM
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I honestly find that kind of annoying. It's like if racists complain about something, nobody else is allowed to have complaints of their own.

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Prestoff
10/04/23 3:12:14 PM
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Was there any outrage when they made Isaac black in the first show?

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voldothegr8
10/04/23 3:12:35 PM
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Ignorance

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WarfireX
10/04/23 3:14:46 PM
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Prestoff posted...
Was there any outrage when they made Isaac black in the first show?
Yes, a lot of people. Although, there were also people that were just mad he was a completely different character from the original.

But both gripes were dumb anyways. The former for obvious reasons. The latter because in the game he was just a dumb stereotypical crazy and flamboyant evil villain and in the Netflix adaptation he was one of the best characters in the series with a well told arc.

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BombermanGold
10/04/23 3:14:50 PM
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Smackems posted...
I looked it up and it looks like they made a minor character black. Annette. Never heard of em. Whoopty doo

To be fair, in the Rondo of Blood game, she was a damsel you had to rescue to get the good ending (if you miss the chance, she gets possessed and becomes a boss of a stage you have to kill).

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Guide
10/04/23 3:19:35 PM
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WarfireX posted...


But both gripes were dumb anyways. The former for obvious reasons. The latter because in the game he was just a dumb stereotypical crazy and flamboyant evil villain and in the Netflix adaptation he was one of the best characters in the series with a well told arc.

I couldn't even keep watching. It felt so... forcefully smug and melodramatic? Like if Black Dynamite was taking itself 100% seriously.

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WarfireX
10/04/23 3:21:09 PM
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Guide posted...
I couldn't even keep watching. It felt so... forcefully smug and melodramatic? Like if Black Dynamite was taking itself 100% seriously.
Why are you replying directly to me? Your post had nothing to do with the content of my post.

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Guide
10/04/23 3:21:47 PM
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WarfireX posted...
Why are you replying directly to me? Your post had nothing to do with the content of my post.

True!

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xlr_big-coop
10/04/23 3:25:14 PM
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Vokrent posted...
in yet another discord server, people are bitching about race changes and stuff and apparently it's ruined the whole show for them?

why does this matter so much to them?
Because if they're not going to be faithful to the source material, respect the lore or the fans then they can fuck off. Might as well make their own IP if all they want is a name to latch on all their garbage ideas.

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WarfireX
10/04/23 3:26:26 PM
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xlr_big-coop posted...
Because if they're not going to be faithful to the source material, respect the lore or the fans then they can fuck off. Might as well make their own IP if all they want is a name to latch on all their garbage ideas.
The game has never had a conclusive plot and regularly ignores its own continuity.

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Vokrent
10/04/23 4:31:15 PM
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Jesus Christ, this topic sees no action for 17 hours and then blows the fuck up while I'm asleep.

I did ask the person in question what the flaws in the show are and he responded with "Netflix keeps race swapping people to fit their agenda and I wish they knew that it pisses everybody off."

So yeah, not gonna have a productive convo about legitimate flaws in the show

Then about 10 minutes later, another person started rambling about Alex Jones, completely unprompted, and I just left when he said that Alex Jones shouldn't have been punished for all the Sandy Hook stuff because he was completely right.

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MuscleRobo
10/04/23 4:37:44 PM
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The problem I have with it is that it's not an accurate adaptation of the video games. My favorite character from Castlevania III was removed completely from the show while a new OC was added. It feels like someone else had a story they wanted to tell and used the popular Castlevania IP to get it off the ground.
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Scarecrow17
10/04/23 4:43:02 PM
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MuscleRobo posted...
The problem I have with it is that it's not an accurate adaptation of the video games. My favorite character from Castlevania III was removed completely from the show while a new OC was added. It feels like someone else had a story they wanted to tell and used the popular Castlevania IP to get it off the ground.

I honestly dont think its made for Castlevania fans. I love this series but I cant be bothered to watch the Netflix show anymore. I gave it a shot but it wasnt for me.

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JuanCarlos1
10/04/23 9:10:47 PM
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Scarecrow17 posted...
I honestly dont think its made for Castlevania fans. I love this series but I cant be bothered to watch the Netflix show anymore. I gave it a shot but it wasnt for me.

What did you want? Some walking in a 2d plane killing monsters all day? Besides most if not all CV games besides TLOS series dont have much of a story.


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WarfireX
10/04/23 9:12:14 PM
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JuanCarlos1 posted...
What did you want? Some walking in a 2d plane killing monsters all day? Besides most if not all CV games besides TLOS series dont have much of a story.
This is the biggest mystery behind the show. Like, fans are mad they fleshed out characters and built a world. They literally want the entire show to be a Belmont or Alucard exploring rooms in a castle.

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pegusus123456
10/04/23 9:12:31 PM
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JuanCarlos1 posted...
Besides most if not all CV games besides TLOS series dont have much of a story.
Yeah, I was really confused when people made similar complaints about the original series. Like I'm not deep into the Castlevania fandom or anything, but the lore is never what I see people praise about that series.

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Metal_Gear_Raxis
10/04/23 9:18:19 PM
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I wonder how people would react if Miriam somehow showed up in the show?

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Eab1990
10/04/23 9:43:55 PM
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If anything, the first Castlevania series had wasted potential.

Godbrand gets offed in four episodes. The rest of Dracula's vampiric council have no speaking lines and are ultimately fodder to showcase how badass Sypha is.

S3 tried to posthumously expand on the Japanese vampire, only to give us the worst pair of characters and the infamous threesome nobody wanted. No surprise why S3 was considered the worst.

Carmilla and her sisters fared a bit better, but Hector ended up suffering for it for a season and a half before they finally threw him a bone, though reversing course a little too hard and making him suddenly competent seemingly overnight and considering he was wearing a slave ring, shouldn't have even been possible.
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Hospy
10/04/23 9:48:25 PM
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Only thing that struck me as odd was the sheer amount of forced profanity.

I'm not a prude, swearing doesn't bother me but it's jarring when they go out of their way to drop f bombs like there's no tomorrow.
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WarfireX
10/04/23 9:50:29 PM
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Hospy posted...
Only thing that struck me as odd was the sheer amount of forced profanity.

I'm not a prude, swearing doesn't bother me but it's jarring when they go out of their way to drop f bombs like there's no tomorrow.
I'm a big fan of the show and I honestly wish they would knock this off.

Even Death in Season 4 has a potty mouth. Granted I think it comes from him spending so much time pretending to be a vagrant hobo vampire, but it still just seemed silly seeing this Elderitchian horror monster drop F bombs.

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YellowSUV
10/04/23 9:56:31 PM
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Hospy posted...
Only thing that struck me as odd was the sheer amount of forced profanity.

I'm not a prude, swearing doesn't bother me but it's jarring when they go out of their way to drop f bombs like there's no tomorrow.

Fuck and shit are used so often (in general, not just this tv show) they are barely considered curse words nowadays.

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voldothegr8
10/04/23 10:00:31 PM
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WarfireX posted...
I'm a big fan of the show and I honestly wish they would knock this off.

Even Death in Season 4 has a potty mouth. Granted I think it comes from him spending so much time pretending to be a vagrant hobo vampire, but it still just seemed silly seeing this Elderitchian horror monster drop F bombs.
I'm sorry but Death dropping f-bombs with his mad smack talk was one of the highlights of the whole series

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pegusus123456
10/04/23 10:06:15 PM
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Eab1990 posted...
only to give us the worst pair of characters and the infamous threesome nobody wanted
Speak for yourself.

They could have made tried to not make them look like identical twins though. I think 90% of people assumed they were siblings <_<

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Scarecrow17
10/05/23 1:49:43 AM
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JuanCarlos1 posted...
What did you want? Some walking in a 2d plane killing monsters all day? Besides most if not all CV games besides TLOS series dont have much of a story.

Something thats actually Castlevania? Its painfully obvious the writers Wikipediad everything about the series. Im pretty sure they even admitted it themselves at some point.

Obviously, if a Zelda adaptation was made, youd want to see Link go on actual adventures. Most of the fans wouldnt be happy if it was centered around Hyrule politics.

Like I said, this series isnt for me. I dont particularly care enough to keep going on about this series. If people enjoy it, good for them.

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10/05/23 1:59:45 AM
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WarfireX posted...
This is the biggest mystery behind the show. Like, fans are mad they fleshed out characters and built a world. They literally want the entire show to be a Belmont or Alucard exploring rooms in a castle.
Yep. Like the poster complaining that Richter ran away because he had trauma from Orlox where the real Richter is just some battle hungry dude. Like...I'm sorry but some belligerent protag with no growth or anything sounds boring as fuck lol. And episode 6 when Richter met with grandpappy and had his power up was fucking hype it woulda been dumb if he just got it out of nowhere from just battling vamps/monsters

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JuanCarlos1
10/05/23 7:54:10 AM
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Scarecrow17 posted...
Something thats actually Castlevania? Its painfully obvious the writers Wikipediad everything about the series. Im pretty sure they even admitted it themselves at some point.

Obviously, if a Zelda adaptation was made, youd want to see Link go on actual adventures. Most of the fans wouldnt be happy if it was centered around Hyrule politics.

Like I said, this series isnt for me. I dont particularly care enough to keep going on about this series. If people enjoy it, good for them.


But WHAT IS CV? Vampire hunters killing momsters. Plenty of that in the show.

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Chillscream123
10/05/23 8:29:42 AM
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I love the swearing. Very realistic and relatable.

I like Annette and especially Olrox, but they should've just given them unique names.
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MuscleRobo
10/05/23 8:31:11 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
Yeah, I was really confused when people made similar complaints about the original series. Like I'm not deep into the Castlevania fandom or anything, but the lore is never what I see people praise about that series.

I can't believe we literally have secondaries admitting they're not knowledgeable telling fans to be quiet about their complaints. Some of us DO like the lore and the series; you know those of us who play the games.
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Avirosb
10/05/23 8:42:23 AM
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Scarecrow17 posted...
Obviously, if a Zelda adaptation was made, youd want to see Link go on actual adventures.

As long as he only communicates in grunts and noises.

MuscleRobo posted...
I can't believe we literally have secondaries admitting they're not knowledgeable telling fans to be quiet about their complaints. Some of us DO like the lore and the series; you know those of us who play the games.

Well wouldn't you know, the games still exist.
And if Sonic and Star Wars have taught me anything, it's that true fanatics can be downright masochistic.

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Raikuro
10/05/23 8:59:20 AM
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I do wish Juste would have gotten a real flashback of his younger days, instead of entirely explained in dialogue.
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