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CableZL
10/04/23 10:56:13 AM
#101:


https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1709543614907293782

Thread covering the details of the trial today

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CableZL
10/04/23 10:58:04 AM
#102:


https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1709573642688835934

Oh, has he? I wouldn't bet money on that


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CableZL
10/04/23 11:02:43 AM
#103:


Also, to clear something up... On Monday, Trump claimed the judge threw out 80% of the case due to statute of limitations. This is false. Judge Arthur Engoron clarified this yesterday.

"Every use of a false financial statement in business starts the state of limitations running again. I understand that the defendants strongly disagree with this and will appeal on those grounds."

So basically, Letitia James is suing Trump for false financial statements between 2011 - 2021, I believe. Plainly, the statute of limitations would limit the lawsuit to begin in July of 2013 or 2014, or something like that. If Trump in 2018 used or referenced a false financial statement made in 2011, the statute of limitations timer restarts. That's how I understood what the judge said, any way.

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Heineken14
10/04/23 11:08:35 AM
#104:


CableZL posted...
Also, to clear something up... On Monday, Trump claimed the judge threw out 80% of the case due to statute of limitations. This is false. Judge Arthur Engoron clarified this yesterday.

"Every use of a false financial statement in business starts the state of limitations running again. I understand that the defendants strongly disagree with this and will appeal on those grounds."

So basically, Letitia James is suing Trump for false financial statements between 2011 - 2021, I believe. Plainly, the statute of limitations would limit the lawsuit to begin in July of 2013 or 2014, or something like that. If Trump in 2018 used or referenced a false financial statement made in 2011, the statute of limitations timer restarts. That's how I understood what the judge said, any way.



Yeah, watched a Medaistouch video where he went over it and that's what it is. Essentially Donnie and his gaggle of dumb fucks are arguing that because the loan closed in 2011 then you can't use anything related to that to charge him with, even if he was still using those fraudulent records from it in 2020.

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CableZL
10/04/23 1:19:29 PM
#105:


https://themessenger.com/politics/trump-appeals-fraud-ruling-business-empire-dissolved

As expected, Trump has appealed the ruling that his New York businesses must be dissolved

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mystic_belmont
10/04/23 4:18:59 PM
#106:


https://preview.redd.it/26nt0ff368sb1.jpg?width=549&auto=webp&s=a71f546820c0e0996446bff8100c0d8f326f9eef

Dude already violated his gag order.

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divot1338
10/04/23 4:34:12 PM
#107:


mystic_belmont posted...
https://preview.redd.it/26nt0ff368sb1.jpg?width=549&auto=webp&s=a71f546820c0e0996446bff8100c0d8f326f9eef

Dude already violated his gag order.
The gag order I saw only mentioned the judges staff. I figured hed do this as soon as I saw that.


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CableZL
10/04/23 4:54:08 PM
#108:


This trial is basically a preview of Trump's behavior in the upcoming criminal trials. This civil trial means a ton for him because his New York business empire is likely going to be taken away from him. To have that happen and THEN lose his freedom? I wouldn't be surprised if he acts even worse during the criminal trials.

The judge has reminded the parties that there is no jury on at least a couple occasions. Trump responds to this by angrily grumbling and writing notes to his lawyers.

I wonder when Alina Habba is going to tell him she forgot to request a jury. Maybe the judge should just go ahead and tell him.

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King_Rial
10/04/23 4:56:55 PM
#109:


This man is a joke.

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Dark_Moon
10/04/23 5:05:57 PM
#110:


King_Rial posted...
This man is a joke.
At least a joke can be funny.

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CableZL
10/04/23 5:06:50 PM
#111:


Trump originally told the judge he had to be in New York all week and would be in attendance the 1st week of the trial.

He has gone home to Florida. I'm guessing he won't be back in the courtroom any time soon.

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Irony
10/04/23 5:07:18 PM
#112:


King_Rial posted...
This man is a joke.
https://youtu.be/lMss1CeHOiM?si=DztPfIbK6dvv7zZl

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Tyranthraxus
10/04/23 5:07:52 PM
#113:


CableZL posted...
Trump originally told the judge he had to be in New York all week and would be in attendance the 1st week of the trial.

He has gone home to Florida. I'm guessing he won't be back in the courtroom any time soon.

Probably a part of the secret discussion they had yesterday

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CableZL
10/04/23 5:16:54 PM
#114:


So... Trump was supposed to sit for a deposition yesterday for a lawsuit he filed against Michael Cohen... I'm thinking he just wanted to be in this trial to delay that deposition.

That deposition is now scheduled for October 9th. I guess he'll be back in New York then.

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Starks
10/04/23 5:18:18 PM
#115:


Yet another violation.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/4/0/AADbVYAAE5j0.jpg

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UltimateWing
10/04/23 5:24:20 PM
#116:


https://www.twitter.com/Acyn/status/1709639751169429570

I do like AG James comment earlier.

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Block_that_Kick
10/04/23 10:39:02 PM
#117:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/8/5/AADYzzAAE5np.jpg

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itachi15243
10/04/23 10:47:48 PM
#118:


At this point I'm actually beginning to wonder if Trump is actually just not capable of following the rules or telling the full truth.

Like some sort of weird medical condition, or part of a deal he made with the devil somehow.

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FearlessMango
10/04/23 10:51:17 PM
#119:


itachi15243 posted...
At this point I'm actually beginning to wonder if Trump is actually just not capable of following the rules or telling the full truth.

Like some sort of weird medical condition, or part of a deal he made with the devil somehow.
he's a pathological liar and a complete narcissist

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Heineken14
10/04/23 11:37:46 PM
#120:


itachi15243 posted...
At this point I'm actually beginning to wonder if Trump is actually just not capable of following the rules or telling the full truth.

Like some sort of weird medical condition, or part of a deal he made with the devil somehow.


It's what happens when you are born with a silver spoon and spend 80 years being able to bully your way around with money and have everything handed to you until someone FINALLY does the lightest of wrist slaps and tells you no.

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CableZL
10/05/23 10:14:18 AM
#121:


https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1709914576546881890

Thread covering today's trial. Trump is gone, so there should hopefully be way less fanfare.

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mystic_belmont
10/05/23 10:32:06 AM
#122:


itachi15243 posted...
At this point I'm actually beginning to wonder if Trump is actually just not capable of following the rules or telling the full truth.

Can you name a single time Trump has suffered actual consequences for his actions at any point in his life?

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CableZL
10/05/23 10:37:15 AM
#123:


mystic_belmont posted...
Can you name a single time Trump has suffered actual consequences for his actions at any point in his life?

The largest consequences he has suffered so far, IIRC:
  • Had to dissolve his charity, The Trump Foundation, because he kept stealing money from it.
  • The recent ruling in this civil fraud trial that forced Trump to dissolve his New York business empire. Trump has appealed, but his legal team didn't put up a very good defense in the first place before the judge granted a summary judgement. I don't think he'll succeed on appeal unless he can somehow come up with an actual argument based in law that would support what he was doing.

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Shadow_Don
10/05/23 10:56:30 AM
#124:


itachi15243 posted...
At this point I'm actually beginning to wonder if Trump is actually just not capable of following the rules or telling the full truth.

Like some sort of weird medical condition, or part of a deal he made with the devil somehow.

He is 100% a pathological liar and a narcissist.

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CableZL
10/05/23 11:12:39 AM
#125:


https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1709948170971783240

Oh damn, a pretty big ruling from the judge. He's putting further restrictions on the defendants' financial and business operations. They've also got 7 days to provide the court-appointed financial monitor with a list of all businesses owned by the defendants that have existing business certificates in New York.

This case has gone very badly for Trump in the last couple weeks.

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TomClark
10/05/23 1:27:05 PM
#126:


CableZL posted...
Oh damn, a pretty big ruling from the judge. He's putting further restrictions on the defendants' financial and business operations. They've also got 7 days to provide the court-appointed financial monitor with a list of all businesses owned by the defendants that have existing business certificates in New York.

This case has gone very badly for Trump in the last couple weeks.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/5/3/AAABqgAAE5u9.jpg

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RchHomieQuanChi
10/05/23 1:38:27 PM
#127:


Trump getting taken down by several black women is some type of karmic justice

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darkace77450
10/05/23 4:32:26 PM
#128:


CableZL posted...
They've also got 7 days to provide the court-appointed financial monitor with a list of all businesses owned by the defendants that have existing business certificates in New York.

Is this going to be like Kusnher's security clearance application, where they keep having to amend it because they're "forgetting" to disclose everything?

RchHomieQuanChi posted...
Trump getting taken down by several black women is some type of karmic justice

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darkace77450
10/05/23 5:04:31 PM
#129:


https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4240476-florida-democrat-asks-county-to-increase-mar-a-lago-tax/

Rep. Jared Moskowitz (D-Fla.) asked the Palm Beach County appraiser to increase the property tax for former President Trumps Mar-a-Lago club, after he claimed that its worth significantly more than its appraised value.

Moskowitzs letter, first reported by NBC News, came after a New York judge ruled that Trump and his sons committed business fraud by purposely inflating and deflating the value of their assets to get better loan terms and insurance rates.

The former president has claimed that the South Florida social club is worth 50 or 100 times more than its $18 million appraised value, once saying its true worth could be as much as $1.5 billion.

Mar-a-Lago was listed as worth $490 million in financial documents given to banks, Moskowitz wrote in the letter. If the property value of Mar-a-Lago is so much higher than it was appraised, will you be amending the property value in line with the Trump familys belief that the property is worth well over a billion dollars?
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mystic_belmont
10/05/23 5:09:08 PM
#130:


Hey, if it's worth that much, time to pay up. Property tax in PBC is 1.11%, so that means Trump owes $16,450,200

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Heineken14
10/05/23 5:11:20 PM
#131:


darkace77450 posted...
Rep. Jared Moskowitz


That is another one of those young democrats that's pretty awesome. He's super sarcastic with his line of questioning and shit, really speaks to me. lol

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Starks
10/05/23 6:54:37 PM
#132:


The under-40 Dems are amazing so far. AOC certainly has the pulse of my area.

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mybbqrules
10/05/23 6:56:02 PM
#133:


Trump's lawyers forgot to request a jury trial within 15 days of the lawsuit's filing, so it's a bench trial.
Only the best people, folks.

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mybbqrules
10/05/23 7:03:46 PM
#134:


CableZL posted...
It's also not a residence. Trump put restrictions on the property so that it can't legally be used as a permanent residence just so he wouldn't have to pay as much in taxes on it. He can't live there permanently under normal circumstances, but he says he has some employee exemption.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/0/5/AABjoOAAE5Tp.jpg
Reminder that Trump listed Mar-A-Lago as his residence on his voting form for the 2020 election, despite the fact that it can't be classified as a residence.

So the ex-president who has spent the last 3 years railing about voter fraud in the 2020 election...committed voter fraud in the 2020 election.

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ClayGuida
10/05/23 7:06:00 PM
#135:


Somebody told me that I paid more in property taxes than Trump does for MAL. If that's true, every American should be incensed.

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havean776
10/05/23 7:08:18 PM
#136:


mybbqrules posted...
Only the best people, folks.
Should of gotten Alex Jones lawyer.

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creativerealms
10/05/23 7:09:54 PM
#137:


Starks posted...
The under-40 Dems are amazing so far. AOC certainly has the pulse of my area.
The future of the party is bright, sadly the older generation are clinging onto control until they die, in office.

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KStateKing17
10/05/23 7:15:08 PM
#138:


creativerealms posted...
The future of the party is bright, sadly the older generation are clinging onto control until they die, in office.
On top of that, they're very much banking on manipulating their undereducated youth to believe that the "liberal boogeyman" is coming after them.

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CableZL
10/05/23 7:19:50 PM
#139:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/0/4/AABjoOAAE5y4.jpg

I'm assuming Trump is going to try to appeal this am the way up to the Supreme Court. He'll likely fail, but it seems we're going to eventually find out who owns Donald Trump.

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thronedfire2
10/05/23 7:21:58 PM
#141:


ClayGuida posted...
Somebody told me that I paid more in property taxes than Trump does for MAL. If that's true, every American should be incensed.

he probably said it lost money because all the rooms were worth 10000 per night but he only charged people 5000

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chris1001_the_sequel
10/05/23 7:25:21 PM
#142:


CableZL posted...


CableZL posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/0/4/AABjoOAAE5y4.jpg

I'm assuming Trump is going to try to appeal this am the way up to the Supreme Court. He'll likely fail, but it seems we're going to eventually find out who owns Donald Trump.
This is a state, not federal trial right? I believe the highest this would go would be state supreme court
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Starks
10/05/23 7:32:45 PM
#143:


This trial is in a supreme court. It would go to the court of appeals.

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CableZL
10/05/23 8:38:33 PM
#144:


chris1001_the_sequel posted...
This is a state, not federal trial right? I believe the highest this would go would be state supreme court

Starks posted...
This trial is in a supreme court. It would go to the court of appeals.

Thats right, good points.

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UltimateWing
10/05/23 10:03:19 PM
#145:


https://www.twitter.com/MichaelCohen212/status/1710090677093020144
https://www.twitter.com/hugolowell/status/1710104460544938307

All that delay for the Michael Cohen deposition and then this happened. Why show up voluntarily this week in court in the first place? PAB.

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littlebro07
10/05/23 10:20:50 PM
#146:


UltimateWing posted...
https://www.twitter.com/MichaelCohen212/status/1710090677093020144
https://www.twitter.com/hugolowell/status/1710104460544938307

All that delay for the Michael Cohen deposition and then this happened. Why show up voluntarily this week in court in the first place? PAB.

god that second one is like someone was trying to win conservative buzzword bingo


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creativerealms
10/06/23 12:20:16 AM
#147:


UltimateWing posted...
https://www.twitter.com/MichaelCohen212/status/1710090677093020144
https://www.twitter.com/hugolowell/status/1710104460544938307

All that delay for the Michael Cohen deposition and then this happened. Why show up voluntarily this week in court in the first place? PAB.
He showed up for the attention. He wants to talk to the press.

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Kradek
10/06/23 12:30:31 AM
#148:


Trump is trying to have the Cohen lawsuit dismissed without prejudice so he can bring it up later when he feels it's more favorable to him. I hope Cohen files to have it dismissed with prejudice so Trump can get fucked.

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el_cheato
10/06/23 12:31:34 AM
#149:


UltimateWing posted...
https://www.twitter.com/MichaelCohen212/status/1710090677093020144
https://www.twitter.com/hugolowell/status/1710104460544938307

All that delay for the Michael Cohen deposition and then this happened. Why show up voluntarily this week in court in the first place? PAB.
oh so he's BROKE broke

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Dark_Arbron
10/06/23 12:34:31 AM
#150:


ClayGuida posted...
Somebody told me that I paid more in property taxes than Trump does for MAL. If that's true, every American should be incensed.

Worse than that, remember the time Activision received a tax return despite paying zero tax that year? Every American citizen paid them for the privilege of getting richer?

2A fanatics where yall at? Thats the sort of thing those guns are meant to stop, right?

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