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CableZL
10/11/23 10:53:08 AM
#201:


https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1712117019858858091

The Deutsche Bank witness is now on the stand. I was thinking nothing was gonna happen today

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CableZL
10/11/23 10:55:27 AM
#202:


Since the judge already ruled on the foundation of the case before the trial started, I wonder how long this trial is expected to last.

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GranAures
10/11/23 10:56:42 AM
#203:


Strider102 posted...
So ultimately it's quite possible it's just more sheer stupidity from Trump and his lawyers.
Or attempts to rile up the goons as I doubt a semi-competent lawyer would expect such a case to be a jury trial.

And good luck explaining that to Trump in a way he would accept and not run his mouth lying about his rights being violated for the cult.

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CableZL
10/11/23 10:57:46 AM
#204:


https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1712113395254612469

I believe this is a further explanation, but I'm not 100% understanding it. I'll have to look into it more later.

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ThePieReborn
10/11/23 11:18:38 AM
#205:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1712113395254612469

I believe this is a further explanation, but I'm not 100% understanding it. I'll have to look into it more later.
There are two different domains that the civil court system operates within: there is law, and then there is equity.

These domains are defined by the remedies available. Matters at law are defined by the use of monetary damages as the remedy, while matters in equity are defined by remedies that are actions ordered by the court, such as property distribution in divorce and injunctions in other cases (not exhaustive). Matters in equity are exclusively determined by the court without a jury.

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CableZL
10/11/23 11:24:34 AM
#206:


https://twitter.com/stewartbishop/status/1712125843839799633

Already suspected, but good confirmation

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CableZL
10/11/23 11:26:13 AM
#207:


ThePieReborn posted...
There are two different domains that the civil court system operates within: there is law, and then there is equity.

These domains are defined by the remedies available. Matters at law are defined by the use of monetary damages as the remedy, while matters in equity are defined by remedies that are actions ordered by the court, such as property distribution in divorce and injunctions in other cases (not exhaustive). Matters in equity are exclusively determined by the court without a jury.

Thanks for that info

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Gritty
10/11/23 11:35:16 AM
#208:


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CableZL
10/11/23 11:54:25 AM
#209:


https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1712130608367886495

https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1712133794466066444

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CableZL
10/11/23 12:36:14 PM
#210:


https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1712141119209845090

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mystic_belmont
10/11/23 12:47:10 PM
#211:


So to keep the loan and not have it called in, he had to maintain (or lie about) his networth?

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Takuya_Lee
10/11/23 12:50:17 PM
#212:


mystic_belmont posted...
So to keep the loan and not have it called in, he had to maintain (or lie about) his networth?

So chances are decent it'll get called in

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mystic_belmont
10/11/23 1:05:01 PM
#213:


Takuya_Lee posted...
So chances are decent it'll get called in

Oh no!

Anyway.

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thronedfire2
10/11/23 5:21:38 PM
#214:


he's probably spent 20+ years paying off loans with other loans

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BewmHedshot
10/11/23 5:22:30 PM
#215:


thronedfire2 posted...
he's probably spent 20+ years paying off loans with other loans
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King_Rial
10/11/23 5:29:41 PM
#216:


We already knew this, but it's nice to come out in court. This is why Trump never wanted to release his tax returns or let any investigation look into his financials. The house of cards would come tumbling down.

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littlebro07
10/11/23 5:59:35 PM
#217:


thronedfire2 posted...
he's probably spent 20+ years paying off loans with other loans

I've been balance transferring a 30k medical debt to new 0% cards for like three years >_>

I'm just like a rich guy!

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thronedfire2
10/11/23 6:02:02 PM
#218:


littlebro07 posted...
I've been balance transferring a 30k medical debt to new 0% cards for like three years >_>

I'm just like a rich guy!

I'm about to sign up for a new card so I can do that with my CC balances

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KitKats
10/11/23 6:03:54 PM
#219:


Let's fucking goooooo!!!

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KitKats
10/11/23 10:17:31 PM
#220:


Hope he goes broke and bankrupt, lose all his riches and property

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Ruvan22
10/11/23 10:58:02 PM
#221:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1712141119209845090

Sorry coming into this late - so how much does a billion dollars matter? (I know how that sounds!!!)

What I mean is this - if a company borrowed money and then were found to have overreported their collateral by a billion dollars how much trouble would they be in?
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CableZL
10/11/23 11:04:26 PM
#222:


Ruvan22 posted...
Sorry coming into this late - so how much does a billion dollars matter? (I know how that sounds!!!)

What I mean is this - if a company borrowed money and then were found to have overreported their collateral by a billion dollars how much trouble would they be in?
I believe the bank could call in the loan, which means Trump would need to pay the entire remaining balance immediately either in cash or through whatever collateral was offered in the loan terms. No way to know if they would actually do it, though.

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CableZL
10/12/23 12:56:04 PM
#223:


https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1712503656996618334

So it seems when they said things were on pause, they just paused Allen Weisselberg's testimony because the guy from Deutsche Bank was on a certain schedule.

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Tyranthraxus
10/12/23 1:03:00 PM
#224:


Ruvan22 posted...
Sorry coming into this late - so how much does a billion dollars matter? (I know how that sounds!!!)

What I mean is this - if a company borrowed money and then were found to have overreported their collateral by a billion dollars how much trouble would they be in?
It depends why and what the money was used for and who it was falsely reported to.

For example, let's say you get contracted by the government for a billion dollars to do something but it turns out you fucked up and need to borrow another billion dollars to finish but it's okay because you know you'll make it all back and use your loan to finish the project without notifying the government.

You will be fucked so hard you'll wish you only committed a billion dollars worth of tax fraud.

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CableZL
10/12/23 1:22:18 PM
#225:


https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1712509517408129401

I like how Forbes is just taking shots at them while the trial is going on

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CableZL
10/12/23 1:48:08 PM
#226:


https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1712511067396464708

So it seems Allen Weisselberg was bribed

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Ruvan22
10/12/23 1:50:20 PM
#227:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1712509517408129401

I like how Forbes is just taking shots at them while the trial is going on

Is Trump attacking Forbes or Weisselberg?
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mystic_belmont
10/12/23 1:51:35 PM
#228:


Ah yes, what an interesting coincidence.

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CableZL
10/12/23 1:51:36 PM
#229:


Ruvan22 posted...
Is Trump attacking Forbes or Weisselberg?
Forbes. They dropped Trump from their list of 400 richest Americans, likely because of details that came out from this trial.

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UltimateWing
10/12/23 2:28:33 PM
#230:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1712511067396464708

So it seems Allen Weisselberg was bribed

Could they be looking at new charges for this?

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CableZL
10/12/23 2:32:57 PM
#231:


UltimateWing posted...
Could they be looking at new charges for this?
Possibly, but I'm not 100% sure

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CableZL
10/12/23 3:36:01 PM
#232:


https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1712532356983148602

Weisselberg hasn't even received all of the "severance" money yet!

So change that from "was bribed" to "is being bribed"

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mystic_belmont
10/12/23 3:40:13 PM
#233:


He's never receiving the remaining money.

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CableZL
10/12/23 5:25:04 PM
#234:


https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1712579688327938137

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mystic_belmont
10/12/23 5:35:59 PM
#235:


Imagine lying for Trump, and then being caught.

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Ruvan22
10/12/23 5:44:03 PM
#236:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1712579688327938137

Are they saying Wesselmen just lied under oath?
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CableZL
10/12/23 5:47:40 PM
#237:


Ruvan22 posted...
Are they saying Wesselmen just lied under oath?

Yeah. We'll have to see what Forbes has, I guess

It's so weird that being on the Forbes 400 list was such a strong desire for Trump that it was a major reason he committed all this fraud.

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mystic_belmont
10/12/23 5:56:29 PM
#238:


CableZL posted...
Yeah. We'll have to see what Forbes has, I guess

It's so weird that being on the Forbes 400 list was such a strong desire for Trump that it was a major reason he committed all this fraud.

He did use it as a justification for why he should get a loan.

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EyeWontBeFooled
10/12/23 8:11:27 PM
#239:


CableZL posted...
Yeah. We'll have to see what Forbes has, I guess

It's so weird that being on the Forbes 400 list was such a strong desire for Trump that it was a major reason he committed all this fraud.
Megalomania gets to people's heads. And Trump very, VERY likely has one of the worst cases of narcissistic personality disorder medical annals have ever seen.

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CableZL
10/13/23 12:17:45 PM
#240:


https://twitter.com/frankrunyeon/status/1712855272450879559

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KitKats
10/13/23 12:49:36 PM
#241:


Wake me up when theyve taken away his ill-gotten riches

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CableZL
10/13/23 1:38:50 PM
#242:


https://twitter.com/frankrunyeon/status/1712883866376036427

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CableZL
10/13/23 1:57:20 PM
#243:


https://twitter.com/frankrunyeon/status/1712887800096235946

At this point, you just have to ask that question

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littlebro07
10/13/23 1:59:52 PM
#244:


Fitting that this involves important conversations taking place in a place where people take trumps

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BewmHedshot
10/13/23 2:01:17 PM
#245:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1712579688327938137
Kinda shit how the media are perfectly content saying Weisselberg lied but when Trump did it 30,000 times as President he was "asserting, without proof".
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King_Rial
10/13/23 3:49:15 PM
#246:


BewmHedshot posted...
Kinda shit how the media are perfectly content saying Weisselberg lied but when Trump did it 30,000 times as President he was "asserting, without proof".
Well, "Trump claims..."

But seriously, yeah. That's one thing that drove my mother crazy. She'd be like, "JUST SAY THAT HE LIED!!!"

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UnholyMudcrab
10/13/23 3:52:23 PM
#247:


King_Rial posted...
Well, "Trump claims..."

But seriously, yeah. That's one thing that drove my mother crazy. She'd be like, "JUST SAY THAT HE LIED!!!"
Since there are typically legal qualifications to claiming that someone is lying, and given how litigious Trump is, it just wasn't something that they wanted to bother with

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King_Rial
10/13/23 3:54:23 PM
#248:


UnholyMudcrab posted...
Since there are typically legal qualifications to claiming that someone is lying, and given how litigious Trump is, it just wasn't something that they wanted to bother with
That's what I would tell her. Wouldn't stop her from yelling at the TV.

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Ruvan22
10/13/23 5:36:36 PM
#249:


King_Rial posted...
That's what I would tell her. Wouldn't stop her from yelling at the TV.

I like your mom! (Not like that)
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divot1338
10/13/23 8:46:01 PM
#250:


Ruvan22 posted...
I like your mom! (Not like that)
Thats a Mom Id Like to Fight with.

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