Current Events > Alt Right Bill Maher calls for Biden to withdraw from 2024 presidential race

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bfslick50 posted...

Did you just say Biden's age is a genuine concern, but we should not drop ourselves to the level of saying Trump's age is a genuine concern? If it's a genuine concern then stop giving Trump a free pass and if it's not a genuine concern then stop promoting GQP talking points.

I don't care if the GOP runs out a geriatric fuck. If Trump has the same type of health scares Biden could have, then that works out for the dems. That's the GQP's business.

The whole issue here is that dems have the election in the bag and they are willingly taking the chance of completely compromising that.

Tenlaar posted...

This is an entirely flawed argument. Republicans running a geriatric candidate doesn't somehow mean that everybody on the left should be fine with Democrats running a geriatric candidate.

Doesn't change if age was actually the issue someone truly cared about they'd point out BOTH candidates being old. Not just attacking one side consistently.

SayHeyyShohei posted...

True. I'm just saying since we know a democrat is going to win anyway, can we not have the nightmare scenario of Biden's age impacting the election? We know exactly what could happen and it's frightening.

We know no such thing as people like you have yet to produce a single candidate that is willing to run and can realistically beat Trump. Not one.

"Any candidate other Democrat can win" is simply not true.

NatsuSama posted...

We know no such thing as people like you have yet to produce a single candidate that is willing to run and can beat Trump. Not one.

If the dems can't put out a candidate that can beat a man on the verge of going to prison, then America is fucked and nothing was going to save it anyway, not even Biden.

Kamala would beat Trump. Gavin would beat Trump. Fucking AOC should she ever decide to run would beat Trump.

SayHeyyShohei posted...

The whole issue here is that dems have the election in the bag and they are willingly taking the chance of completely compromising that.

Oh you sweet summer child

How are the republicans going to win an election if their main candidate is facing felony charges?

NatsuSama posted...

Doesn't change if age was actually the issue someone truly cared about they'd point out BOTH candidates being old. Not just attacking one side consistently.

You're saying this as if any discussion of who Democrats should run for president must also include discussion of who Republicans should run for president. That simply is not the case. Why do a bunch of Democrat voters have to include Republican candidates in their discussions?

SayHeyyShohei posted...

The whole issue here is that dems have the election in the bag and they are willingly taking the chance of completely compromising that.

No they don't, and pushing dumb ass right wing bullshit like forcing Biden out to run someone else for you people to bitch and moan about is a fucking death sentence.

SayHeyyShohei posted...

If the dems can't put out a candidate that can beat a man on the verge of going to prison, then America is fucked and nothing was going to save it anyway, not even Biden.

Kamala would beat Trump. Gavin would beat Trump. Fucking AOC would beat Trump.

You aren't giving realistic candidates who can win.

AOC being the progressive wet dream candidate doesn't make her a realistic candidate that would win over Independents and swing voters.

Gavin announced he's not running and made that very clear.

Kamala does not have a lot of support.

Simply saying "any Democrat can beat Trump" is simply not true. And saying we are fucked if Dems can't come up with someone better doesn't change there is no candidate who is running that's a Democrat that has a realistic chance of winning over swing and independent voters.

If you genuinely cared about age, you'd be attacking Trumps age as well. But for "reasons", your focus is on Biden for reasons we all know why. And when it comes to introducing a Democrat candidate, it's always nothing or unrealistic candidates.

BeantownHero posted...

Platforming white wing talking points is just a bad as being a card carrying member

This comment flew under the radar, and is deeply unappreciated in this thread.

hereforemnant posted...

It's a basic fact that the overton window for the US is much further right than the parties in AUS, the UK, or Germany as a few examples.

Doesn't Germany have that new Nazi-lite party? AUF? AWF? I can't remember the German name to search and link it. But they are as right as it gets, short of someone descended from Nazis like Marine LePen.

Your other examples might be right. I don't know. But I do know that the overton window on the European continent has been dragged steadily right as Steve Bannon has made his rounds (not that he's the sole causation, but he's playing to a crowd that's been really receptive to it) through each of his stops.

Heineken14 posted...

No they don't, and pushing dumb ass right wing bullshit like forcing Biden out to run someone else for you people to bitch and moan about is a fucking death sentence.

You're still calling me right wing? Or are we doing that regressive thing where we call all Bernie supporters alt right again?

SayHeyyShohei posted...

How are the republicans going to win an election if their main candidate is facing felony charges?

You haven't been paying attention to any of the voting map cases going through the courts where Republicans are being told to fix their maps, and are telling the courts to fuck off with the hope that the courts will fuck off just long enough for an election to happen that gives them universal political power.

And that's one of about a dozen ways that we can't trust that the election is "in the bag" that has zip and shit to do with the age of the candidates.

This comment flew under the radar, and is deeply unappreciated in this thread.

It flew under the radar because it's dumb. Wanting out of touch geriatrics out of politics was never exclusively a right wing talking point. It's a fucking travesty that basic shit we used to all agree upon is now conflated with the right because of "biden bad".

Neoliberals literally never heard of a broken clock.

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"Every progressive is an alt"

-A CE guide to handing the fascist republicans the election

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So you would know this was my main and that it's pretty clear how CE treats anyone left of center?

Tenlaar posted...

You're saying this as if any discussion of who Democrats should run for president must also include discussion of who Republicans should run for president. That simply is not the case. Why do a bunch of Democrat voters have to include Republican candidates in their discussions?

Bringing up Bidens age here and there is one thing. Consistently only talking about Bidens age while ignoring Trumps age shows you aren't all that genuinely concerned about age and more about a reason to point at specifically Democrats.

If you are consistent in showing only concern for one party and its candidates age, it shows your concern isn't all that genuine about age.

SayHeyyShohei posted...

It flew under the radar because it's dumb.

Nah. It was an excellent pun on the state of conservative politics and what they're in the game for.

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Not hiding behind an alt. This is my main. It's been made clear.

NatsuSama posted...

Bringing up Bidens age here and there is one thing. Consistently only talking about Bidens age while ignoring Trumps age shows you aren't all that genuinely concerned about age and more about a reason to point at specifically Democrats.

If you are consistent in showing only concern for one party and its candidates age, it shows your concern isn't all the genuine about age.

Running geriatrics for president is bad, period. Talking about that from the perspective of a Democrat voter wanting a better Democrat candidate does not need to also include but obviously Trump is also bad as part of every discussion. Thats just a flat out dumbass requirement to put on people.

DnDer posted...

Nah. It was an excellent pun on the state of conservative politics and what they're in the game for.

"Old boomers need to stop holding positions of power. The Supreme Court and House are filled with ancient regressives and conservatives" - us

"biden bad" - GQP

"NOOOO THATS NOT WHAT WE MEANT" - you

Tenlaar posted...

Running geriatrics for president is bad, period. Talking about that from the perspective of a Democrat voter wanting a better Democrat candidate does not need to also include but obviously Trump is also bad as part of every discussion. Thats just a flat out dumbass requirement to put on people.

Which has nothing to do with what I just said.

Bringing up Bidens age here and there is one thing.
Consistently only talking about Bidens age while ignoring Trumps age shows you aren't all that genuinely concerned about age and more about a reason to point at specifically Democrats.

Sitting here talking about being a "Democrat voter" is a load of horseshit if your record shows you only complain about one party.

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So which is it? Am I Kanjo or am I not?

If I'm Kanjo, then clearly this is my main.

If I'm not, then I guess I'm an alt.

Since everyone knows I'm Kanjo...

NatsuSama posted...

Which has nothing to do with what I just said.

Bringing up Bidens age here and there is one thing.
Consistently only talking about Bidens age while ignoring Trumps age shows you aren't all that genuinely concerned about age and more about a reason to point at specifically Democrats.

Youre still acting like any discussion of Democrat behavior must also include discussion of Republican behavior or it means the person is right wing. Once again, that is a dumbass requirement to put on people.

NatsuSama posted...

Which has nothing to do with what I just said.

Bringing up Bidens age here and there is one thing.
Consistently only talking about Bidens age while ignoring Trumps age shows you aren't all that genuinely concerned about age and more about a reason to point at specifically Democrats.

Republicans tanking their campaign by trotting out an unhealthy geriatric that could die or go to prison at any moment is their own fucking problem. How does that hurt the dems like trotting out literally the only candidate that could rival Trump in that he could have a single health scare and hand the election to fascists?

This isn't hard.

Tenlaar posted...

Youre still acting like any discussion of Democrat behavior must also include discussion of Republican behavior or it means the person is right wing. Once again, that is a dumbass requirement to put on people.

No you're just at this point purposely being obtuse.

No one said every discussion must include Republicans. You didn't read my post.

Talking about Bidens age ever here and there has nothing to do with making it your mission to find a reason to criticize only Bidens age in all discussions that pertains to the oh so genuine care about age.

NatsuSama posted...

No you're just at this point purposely being obtuse.

No one said every discussion must include Republicans. You didn't read my post.

Your argument is talking about Bidens age but not Trumps age means youre a disingenuous right winger. Its a bad argument.

Tenlaar posted...

Your argument is talking about Bidens age but not Trumps age means youre a disingenuous right winger. Its a bad argument.

This isn't my argument. I've repeated my argument now several times and even bold key points. At this point, being obtuse is your game.

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Wrong!

SayHeyyShohei posted...

"Old boomers need to stop holding positions of power. The Supreme Court and House are filled with ancient regressives and conservatives" - us

"biden bad" - GQP

"NOOOO THATS NOT WHAT WE MEANT" - you

You made me go back to make sure I quoted the right post. I did.

BeantownHero said the following thing that I thought was unappreciated:

Platforming white wing talking points is just a bad as being a card carrying member

He's not just excoriating Maher for platforming the alt-right, because to give them legitimacy and a platform is just as bad as being one of them, he did it with clever word play.

It's lovely, and it should have been quoted at least once before I got to it, just for its cleverness.

Nothing about that under-appreciated quote has anything to do with anyone's age or the power they wield.

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An alt is an account used to post away from your main account.

My main account is closed, none of the things you listed.

Being that this is my only account, this is my main.

SayHeyyShohei posted...

You're still calling me right wing?

No, I'm saying you are pushing a right wing talking point, just like ol Billy. Quite frankly, I do not give 1 single solitary shit what you want to call yourself, because someone already put it better...

BeantownHero posted...

Platforming white wing talking points is just a bad as being a card carrying member

Wanting the dems to win the election with zero chance of squabbling it certainly is a right wing talking point.

shockthemonkey posted...

Thats Kanjo, hes been trolling these boards for like 10-15 years at this point.

Don't believe I am familiar with that user, but it's definitely easy to see what his game is on this account.

Heineken14 posted...

Don't believe I am familiar with that user, but it's definitely easy to see what his game is on this account.

My only game is to promote progressive ideas and to express how important it is for the republicans to lose.

Tenlaar posted...

Running geriatrics for president is bad, period.

Why? What makes someone worse than, say Boebert simply because they are 70?

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oh, now things make sense

SayHeyyShohei posted...

My only game is to promote progressive ideas and to express how important it is for the republicans to lose.

By forcing out an incumbent president a year before an election. Either you are pushing right wing talking points or you are so fucking clueless you don't know your asshole from your elbow.

Heineken14 posted...

By forcing out an incumbent president a year before an election. Either you are pushing right wing talking points or you are so fucking clueless you don't know your asshole from your elbow.

What happens if Biden has a health scare between now and the election?

If I don't know my asshole then you clearly don't even know the ground you're standing on.

SayHeyyShohei posted...

What happens if Biden has a health scare between now and the election?

Think of how terrible itd be if Biden had to drop out and we lost our incumbent advantage. Thats why we should throw away our incumbent advantage now! Guarantee that we dont get it so GQP has a sporting chance.

My money is on the exercising 80 year old faring better than the obese 78 year old.

So you seriously believe having no candidate in the middle of an election is better than putting up a candidate who could win just as easily who won't suddenly not be a candidate anymore?

Weird, but okay. Incumbent advantage applies to party btw, not president.

SayHeyyShohei posted...

What happens if Biden has a health scare between now and the election?

The same thing that happens if he doesn't. The right wing will make shit up and say it regardless, and people like you will parrot it regardless.

SayHeyyShohei posted...

What happens if Biden has a health scare between now and the election?

What happened when Trump almost died before the election? Oh, he still ran?