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DrizztLink
09/30/23 6:28:59 PM
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divot1338 posted...
He said it repeatedly. Even before he got inaugurated.

https://youtu.be/HGLrPYu15hI?si=b4WTyMc_wAxe9VWZ
And he's done what, exactly, beyond that?

Wring his hands and shit on the people taking him to account for it?

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divot1338
09/30/23 6:29:04 PM
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Intro2Logic posted...
That's different from being first.
Cool you go find someone before June 11, 2019 and Ill retract what I said.

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divot1338
09/30/23 6:36:03 PM
#53:


DrizztLink posted...
And he's done what, exactly, beyond that?

Wring his hands and shit on the people taking him to account for it?
Every week we would get some lugnut posting a link to interview segment which is usually some person who is either too famous or too stupid to be in the regular panel.

And for some reason this would be misconstrued as him being a right wing extremist because it was out of context. So Ive pointed out that not only is he a liberal, but he is a very astute observer on politics and Donald Trump in particular.

He literally got Donald to go to court to prove that an orangutan didnt impregnate his mother. And Donald lost.
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Savoots
09/30/23 6:43:42 PM
#54:


Yeah, I don't like Maher because his political opinions aren't 100% aligned with my own.

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Necronmon
09/30/23 6:48:43 PM
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Every week we would get some lugnut posting a link to interview segment which is usually some person who is either too famous or too stupid to be in the regular panel.

And for some reason this would be misconstrued as him being a right wing extremist because it was out of context. So Ive pointed out that not only is he a liberal, but he is a very astute observer on politics and Donald Trump in particular.

He literally got Donald to go to court to prove that an orangutan didnt impregnate his mother. And Donald lost.

That IS true, but the thing is, after Covid Maher seems to have lost his mind and become bitter and hates the left for renouncing him. He still hates Trump but it seems like he's all but ready to otherwise be a Republican out of spite. In the end he never got married and really just seems like a bitter old man hateful at everyone.

That's also the reason he pushed to get his show back more then the other Talk show hosts...he does not seem to have anything else going on while the others have there families.
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Dark_Arbron
09/30/23 6:50:01 PM
#56:


Savoots posted...
Yeah, I don't like Maher because his political opinions aren't 100% aligned with my own.

Speak for yourself.

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divot1338
09/30/23 6:51:16 PM
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Necronmon posted...
That IS true, but the thing is, after Covid Maher seems to have lost his mind and become bitter and hates the left for renouncing him. He still hates Trump but it seems like he's all but ready to otherwise be a Republican out of spite. In the end he never got married and really just seems like a bitter old man hateful at everyone.

That's also the reason he pushed to get his show back more then the other Talk show hosts...he does not seem to have anything else going on while the others have there families.
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CyborgSage00x0
09/30/23 6:55:06 PM
#58:


Watching Maher morph into a chud has been so weird. Religulous feels so far away.

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Euripides
09/30/23 6:55:42 PM
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Maher disliking Trump AND being a boomer conservative can both be true

Because they are both true

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GranTurismo
09/30/23 7:04:10 PM
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isn't maher considered very liberal....very left of center....etc... Don't know that much about him
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Euripides
09/30/23 7:05:34 PM
#61:


GranTurismo posted...
isn't maher considered very liberal....very left of center....etc... Don't know that much about him

No. He used to be a "small L" libertarian, now he's just a crusty boomer who hates political correctness

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Necronmon
09/30/23 7:07:24 PM
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isn't maher considered very liberal....very left of center....etc... Don't know that much about him

Along with what I said before I think Covid broke him, after he came back from Covid all he did is rant about how everyone's " To soft" and in isolation he became a deranged bitter old man.
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GranTurismo
09/30/23 7:16:10 PM
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Euripides posted...
No. He used to be a "small L" libertarian, now he's just a crusty boomer who hates political correctness
iirc he really despises most conservative repubs. though. Like W, trump etc...doen't he kinda look favorably on the clintons and biden ...etc...? coudl be wrong
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Southernfatman
09/30/23 7:18:22 PM
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Bill always had some issues and stupid views and has always been friendly with some reprehensible types (Ann Coulter), but within the past few years he's just become the worst. I used to watch his show back in the day and again, he always had some questionable views, but he wasn't...this.

Necronmon posted...
Along with what I said before I think Covid broke him, after he came back from Covid all he did is rant about how everyone's " To soft" and in isolation he became a deranged bitter old man.

I think it was covid plus "cancel culture". He, like many other lower grade stand up comedians of a certain era, had their brains broken because people called out their tired jokes and stereotypes that were also offensive. They couldn't handle their work being criticized and see comedians as this persecuted group.

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Toonstrack
09/30/23 7:21:11 PM
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Maher is just a grifter. He'll parrot absolutely any political stance that will make him the most money. Come next year He'll be villifying Trump again if he feels like its the best way to go about it

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ForsakenHermit
09/30/23 7:25:25 PM
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I think the pandemic threw Maher over the edge.

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WalkingPlague
09/30/23 7:39:45 PM
#67:


desantis will be the next president.

do i agree with this? hell no.

but, the more you see of them thats who they are putting their money behind.

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ooger
09/30/23 7:41:27 PM
#68:


WalkingPlague posted...
desantis will be the next president.
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masterpug53
09/30/23 7:44:38 PM
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Folks, Maher praising DeSantis' Covid policy - in which DeSantis lied through his teeth, falsified records, hand-picked a quack Surgeon General who among other things refused to mask up around a cancer survivor and had to be ejected from the premises, swatted a state employee who was trying to report Covid numbers accurately, screamed at kids for masking up, bullied the Special Fucking Olypmics over mask mandates, and got thousands of Floridians needlessly killed for the sake of elevating his clout on the national stage - is not merely a difference of political opinion.

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Heineken14
09/30/23 8:03:05 PM
#70:


WalkingPlague posted...
desantis will be the next president.

do i agree with this? hell no.

but, the more you see of them thats who they are putting their money behind.


He ain't even gonna be the next republican nominee, let alone the next president. Rofl.

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Intro2Logic
09/30/23 8:06:14 PM
#71:


GranTurismo posted...
isn't maher considered very liberal....very left of center....etc... Don't know that much about him
Very liberal, sure. Very left of center, Eh.


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Ivynn
09/30/23 8:35:02 PM
#72:


GranTurismo posted...
isn't maher considered very liberal....very left of center....etc... Don't know that much about him

Maher was a liberal and seen as kind of a rock star back in the 90s/00s when conservatism dominated the culture. He was an atheist when that wasn't mainstream, pro-gay marriage when that wasn't mainstream, pro-marijuana when that wasn't mainstream and criticized the Iraq War and W Bush heavily. That's where he got most of his goodwill.

But that was his younger days. He hasn't really changed or moved any more left since I guess early 2010s. Liberals have a bunch of new fights now, ones he seems to think are "a step too far." And he's grown to really, really hate young people.

I don't agree he's conservative or alt-right, but he is very much a liberal that was left behind and he sees no reason to update or change. So he's basically a crotchety old man who yells at clouds now. Plus there was Covid which broke his brain a lot.

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SaikyoStyle
09/30/23 8:36:08 PM
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He has allowed himself to become a tool of the alt-right to maintain an audience. He has no strongly held beliefs or convictions apart from loving money.

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Savoots
09/30/23 9:06:17 PM
#74:


Dark_Arbron posted...
Speak for yourself.

I was.....

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aarrgus
09/30/23 9:08:38 PM
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Bill Maher, Corporate Sellout.

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Tenlaar
09/30/23 9:22:53 PM
#76:


Ivynn posted...
But that was his younger days. He hasn't really changed or moved any more left since I guess early 2010s. Liberals have a bunch of new fights now, ones he seems to think are "a step too far." And he's grown to really, really hate young people.
This seems like you're saying that somebody who starts firmly on the left can only be considered to remain on the left if they continue to move left from where they started. Is that accurate?
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GranTurismo
09/30/23 9:23:07 PM
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Maher made that very offensive comment on his abc show, right after 9/11 happened. Iirc he was fired from his show because of that comment soon after. Forget the name of that abc show, but wasn't that show what put him on the map?:
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ClayGuida
09/30/23 9:24:50 PM
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GranTurismo posted...
Maher made that very offensive comment on his abc show, right after 9/11 happened. Iirc he was fired from his show because of that comment soon after. Forget the name of that abc show, but wasn't that show what put him on the map?:
What was the offensive comment?

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ForsakenHermit
09/30/23 9:26:40 PM
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ClayGuida posted...
What was the offensive comment?
He and the Hillary's America guy said that the terrorists while morally reprehensible were not cowards.

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Torgo
09/30/23 9:34:44 PM
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brestugo posted...
A lot of asshats eat it up though. BuT hE hAs InTeReStInG gUeStS!

For a long time this was the defense of Joe Rogan platforming a series of white nationalists, and simply letting them do PR and image rehabilitation.

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Toonstrack
09/30/23 9:35:15 PM
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The only change DeSantis has at nomination is Trump croaking. If he lasts another year DeSantis is doa

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Torgo
09/30/23 9:35:30 PM
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GranTurismo posted...
Maher made that very offensive comment on his abc show, right after 9/11 happened. Iirc he was fired from his show because of that comment soon after. Forget the name of that abc show, but wasn't that show what put him on the map?:

The show was "Politically Incorrect"

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ForsakenHermit
09/30/23 9:43:32 PM
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Maher has always given awful people a platform. Ann Coulter has been a guest since the PI days, he supports PETA and its <redacted> founder, he gave the worst of the New Atheist cockroaches a voice and still agrees with just about every vile thing Dawkins and Harris say. He only challenged Milo when Milo badmouthed Lena Dunham (which is ironic because Milo is just like her in many ways.) Maher has always had a problem with realizing that just because he agrees with somebody on something, that doesn't make their extreme takes correct.

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ClayGuida
09/30/23 9:51:35 PM
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ForsakenHermit posted...
He and the Hillary's America guy said that the terrorists while morally reprehensible were not cowards.
And that's 'extremely offensive' how?

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ClayGuida
09/30/23 9:54:54 PM
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ForsakenHermit
09/30/23 9:58:38 PM
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ClayGuida posted...
And that's 'extremely offensive' how?
The post 9/11 environment wasn't ready to hear it. Not saying I agree with the reaction just that it got Maher canned.

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Ar0ge
09/30/23 10:03:02 PM
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Desantis is such a piece of shit. Not sure how anyone can stand to even look at him
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A_Good_Boy
09/30/23 10:06:36 PM
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ClayGuida posted...
And that's 'extremely offensive' how?
Yes, it's always been offensive to commend the bravery of terrorists giving their lives by killing thousands of people.

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Torgo
09/30/23 10:28:15 PM
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ForsakenHermit posted...
Maher has always given awful people a platform. Ann Coulter has been a guest since the PI days, he supports PETA and its <redacted> founder, he gave the worst of the New Atheist cockroaches a voice and still agrees with just about every vile thing Dawkins and Harris say. He only challenged Milo when Milo badmouthed Lena Dunham (which is ironic because Milo is just like her in many ways.) Maher has always had a problem with realizing that just because he agrees with somebody on something, that doesn't make their extreme takes correct.

I think over time Maher went from, being a pretty standard lib-democrat who was outspoken as an atheist, to being a right wing curmudgeon more because he was seduced by the wealth and status existing in their proximity.

This seems to happen a lot in mainstream media too. The amount of wealth floating around the right wing activist and political grift-o-verse is overwhelming compared to the left and has tempted many to crossover to the dark side.

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Intro2Logic
09/30/23 11:00:24 PM
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I think there's a pipeline of people who were really outspoken about atheism in the 00s who wound up being "anti-PC" or "anti-woke" crusaders.

But Maher's deal is that he enjoyed the cultural cachet of being the leftest guy in the room by being anti-Bush and pro-weed 20 years ago; that's not the case anymore and he resents those to his left for calling into question his cool guy credentials.

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Euripides
09/30/23 11:13:53 PM
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Maher and Chappelle have followed the same path

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Kradek
10/03/23 8:08:35 PM
#92:


Euripides posted...
Maher and Chappelle have followed the same path

To Maher's very little credit at least he hasn't stood on stage with the richest man in the world and mocked "the poors" in the audience.

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ooger
10/03/23 9:13:52 PM
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Kradek posted...
To Maher's very little credit at least he hasn't stood on stage with the richest man in the world and mocked "the poors" in the audience.
God, I forgot about that.

What a cringe moment.

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divot1338
10/03/23 9:16:41 PM
#94:


A_Good_Boy posted...
Yes, it's always been offensive to commend the bravery of terrorists giving their lives by killing thousands of people.
In the immediate post 9/11 environment the words coward were thrown around pretty irresponsibly.

Step one of solving a problem is correctly identifying the problem.

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Chillscream123
10/04/23 4:08:32 AM
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Bill Maher is based. He is progressive, but he doesn't condone political correctness.
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X8Azazel8X
10/04/23 4:25:47 AM
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bfslick50 posted...
Dude, read this next quote

Which liberals did this? Maybe a couple random people on twitter but no majority and no one of significance denied Trumps win in 2016. They bitched about it and finger pointed but no one was all edging a mass voter fraud conspiracy. If Maher was a liberal he wouldnt stand for the normalization of election denial. Ryudo, standing up to election denial is not a far-left position.


The difference isn't that people on the left weren't also complaining.....the difference is that they had reason to and still do. There are literally still warrants out for the arrest of Russians involved in election interference charges. Not to mention a celebration immediately after for Yevgeny Prigozhin who was tasked with putting together the attacks and troll farms leading up to it. Not to mention publicly asking asking them by you know who to hack the dnc for way more than just the opponents emails.

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BombermanGold
10/04/23 4:38:46 AM
#97:


Kradek posted...
To Maher's very little credit at least he hasn't stood on stage with the richest man in the world and mocked "the poors" in the audience.

Saaaaaaaaaaaay wut now?

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ooger
10/04/23 8:26:18 AM
#98:


Chillscream123 posted...
Bill Maher is based. He is progressive, but he doesn't condone political correctness.
okay, boomer.

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Heineken14
10/04/23 8:28:26 AM
#99:


BombermanGold posted...


Saaaaaaaaaaaay wut now?


Chapelle had Elon come up on stage after one of his stand ups.

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Nosferatu_Zodd
10/04/23 8:43:33 AM
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I dont agree with some of Maher's views, but I feel his conversations with those across the political spectrum are usually insightful.

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