Current Events > Ron DeSantis and Gavin Newsom will debate on Fox News in November

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09/25/23 5:02:00 PM
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BlueTigerLion
09/25/23 6:39:36 PM
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/ron-desantis-gavin-newsom-debate-fox-news-sean-hannity-november-30-rcna117228

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loafy013
09/25/23 6:47:17 PM
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This is a dumb move by Newsom. He has nothing to gain by this.

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Dark_Moon
09/25/23 6:51:36 PM
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loafy013 posted...
This is a dumb move by Newsom. He has nothing to gain by this.
Have you seen desantis debate? Newson have some to gain from this if he ever does run.

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A_Good_Boy
09/25/23 6:53:30 PM
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DeSantis should back down. No way in hell he comes out of this looking good.

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tremain07
09/25/23 6:53:34 PM
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The funnieset thing about this is that Fox hates Desantis now so they probably won't help him nearly as much as they would have when they were giving him fluff pieces every day and trying to make him the champion to oust the Trumpers

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Agonized_rufous
09/25/23 6:54:42 PM
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The shadow government has already taken The Donald and Bigone out of the next race. This is the real race

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SiO4
09/25/23 6:56:10 PM
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loafy013
09/25/23 6:57:26 PM
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Dark_Moon posted...
Have you seen desantis debate? Newson have some to gain from this if he ever does run.
But it won't be a debate. It will be Desantis screaming Woke California the whole time and not actually addressing a single debate question.

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YoBlazer
09/25/23 7:02:12 PM
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loafy013 posted...
This is a dumb move by Newsom. He has nothing to gain by this.
I see this as a desperation move by DeSantis. He'd never be agreeing to this if he were more competitive in the polls, but considering his campaign is floundering, he needs to go for a hail mary like this.

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CyricZ
09/25/23 7:02:50 PM
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HylianFox
09/25/23 7:06:23 PM
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Debate what? They represent different states.
Is Newsom running for governor of Florida or vice versa?

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Shadow_Don
09/25/23 7:06:35 PM
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loafy013 posted...
This is a dumb move by Newsom. He has nothing to gain by this.

What?

The bad move is from desantis. Newsom will fucking destroy him.

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CoyoteTheGreat
09/25/23 7:08:44 PM
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My thought is that Democrats want the "ideal" scenario, which would be DeSantis winning the primary with 51% of the vote, so half the Republican party rage quits election. I do think that this is too clever by a half through, because if Trump is Mussolini, then DeSantis is definitely the other one and infinitely more scary.

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brestugo
09/25/23 7:17:25 PM
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IIRC, DeSantis has avoided 1 or 2 debates with Newsom already through absurd concession requests over moderator(s), crowd, venue, dates, etc.. Not sure what was done to get this one on the docket.

Newsom can mollywhop DeSantis in his sleep, so not sure what DeSantis is going after here. It could kill his campaign altogether, which may be what he wants. There's talk he's looking for an "honorable exit" from the 2024 race.

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Nunyobidness
09/25/23 7:18:19 PM
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tremain07 posted...
The funnieset thing about this is that Fox hates Desantis now so they probably won't help him nearly as much as they would have when they were giving him fluff pieces every day and trying to make him the champion to oust the Trumpers


Eh, I imagine they hate Newsom more that DeSantis. If they can screw over Newsom and head off a chance of him running, either this cycle or in the next cycle they'd love to.
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A_Good_Boy
09/25/23 7:22:01 PM
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Newsom has said that he has a shitty memory, so his normal routine is to meticulously pour over reports and figures so he's always prepared and people can't stump him. This is different from DeSantis, who despite being an ivy league educated former lawyer routinely finds himself getting embarrassed by a cartoon mouse.

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SayHeyyShohei
09/25/23 7:23:00 PM
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loafy013 posted...
This is a dumb move by Newsom. He has nothing to gain by this.

Except making DeSatan look even dumber to his base.

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Saxon
09/25/23 7:26:06 PM
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In some media circles, Newsome is reportedly going to replace Biden in the general election.
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PballDepot
09/25/23 7:26:25 PM
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loafy013 posted...
This is a dumb move by Newsom. He has nothing to gain by this.


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Saxon
09/25/23 7:31:07 PM
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Well, Biden won't debate.

Biden doesn't plan to debate anyone or campaign much at all in 2024...he thinks he's gonna cakewalk to re-election against Trump.
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tremain07
09/25/23 7:31:17 PM
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Saxon posted...
In some media circles, Newsome is reportedly going to replace Biden in the general election.
if that's true man the Progressives are going to fucking hate that, they want Bernie or Katie Porter

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SayHeyyShohei
09/25/23 7:31:37 PM
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Saxon posted...
Well, Biden won't debate.

Biden doesn't plan to debate anyone or campaign much at all in 2024...he thinks he's gonna cakewalk to re-election against Trump.

It's honestly depressing.

He needs to step down and let a better candidate run.

tremain07 posted...
if that's true man the Progressives are going to fucking hate that, they want Bernie or Katie Porter

I'd be slightly annoyed but I'd thank the lord that any tiny shot at Trump being elected would be destroyed. Newsom is 100x better than Biden, which isn't saying much.

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Doom_Art
09/25/23 7:33:35 PM
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Newsom has nothing to lose from this lol

DeSantis also can't debate to save his life

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brestugo
09/25/23 7:35:40 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
Newsom has nothing to lose from this lol

DeSantis also can't debate to save his life

It almost looks like DeSantis is suiciding his campaign here.

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Doom_Art
09/25/23 7:36:04 PM
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SayHeyyShohei posted...
It's honestly depressing.

He needs to step down and let a better candidate run.
Last time Democrats cave up incumbency advantage they lost lol

Also shame on you for responding seriously to Saxon

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SayHeyyShohei
09/25/23 7:41:06 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
Last time Democrats cave up incumbency advantage they lost lol

Literally 50 years ago during the peak of the Southern Strategy.

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PballDepot
09/25/23 7:42:52 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
Newsom has nothing to lose from this lol

DeSantis also can't debate to save his life

People already know DeSantis is bad so there's nothing for Newsom to gain.

Also Ron will point out stuff that Gavin's legit bad at (homeless and housing etc..) which will make him look bad as well.


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SayHeyyShohei
09/25/23 7:44:24 PM
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PballDepot posted...
People already know DeSantis is bad

You'd be shocked

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Doom_Art
09/25/23 7:48:14 PM
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PballDepot posted...
People already know DeSantis is bad so there's nothing for Newsom to gain.
Do they?

PballDepot posted...
Also Ron will point out stuff that Gavin's legit bad at (homeless and housing etc..) which will make him look bad as well.

Ron is an abysmal debater so I doubt that works lol

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Saxon
09/25/23 7:48:31 PM
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What are your thoughts on Robert Kennedy Jr. challenging Biden for the Democrat nomination?

He's already got an amazing 20% support from the Democrats, but unfortunately Biden controls the remaining 80% and thus Kennedy has a long way to go to topple Biden for the Democrat nomination.

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A_Good_Boy
09/25/23 7:49:45 PM
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Saxon posted...
What are your thoughts on Robert Kennedy Jr. challenging Biden for the Democrat nomination?

He's already got an amazing 20% support from the Democrats, but unfortunately Biden controls the remaining 80% and thus Kennedy has a long way to go to topple Biden for the Democrat nomination.

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It's a real David v Goliath story if I've ever seen one.

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Inohira
09/25/23 7:50:44 PM
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Embarrassing for Ron, reduced to debating a non-candidate.

When Trump was going to debate Bernie in 2016 even he was convinced to back out due to how pathetic it'd have looked (de facto nominee debating an underdog). And this is worse.

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Saxon
09/25/23 7:54:29 PM
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You owe Kennedy Jr. a shot at the white house. After all, his daddy would have no doubt won the presidency in 1968 if it wasn't for getting killed.

If that hadn't happened the whole trajectory of the United States would be radically different today in a good way.

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Yawn_Master2
09/25/23 7:55:51 PM
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Shadow_Don posted...
What?

The bad move is from desantis. Newsom will fucking destroy him.


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Doom_Art
09/25/23 7:57:22 PM
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RFK Jr is this cycle's Tulsi Gabbard or Andrew Yang.

Every right-wingers favorite Democrat

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Intro2Logic
09/25/23 7:57:43 PM
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Saxon posted...
You owe Kennedy Jr. a shot at the white house. After all, his daddy would have no doubt won the presidency in 1968 if it wasn't for getting killed.

If that hadn't happened the whole trajectory of the United States would be radically different today in a good way.

Is getting the joke account meme posted the only way you can feel alive anymore?


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mercurydude
09/25/23 8:00:24 PM
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Saxon posted...
Well, Biden won't debate.

Biden doesn't plan to debate anyone or campaign much at all in 2024...he thinks he's gonna cakewalk to re-election against Trump.

I mean, this is the way it's normally done. You Trumpers are trying to gaslight everybody to believe otherwise and it's not working. Donnie wasn't going around debating people for what he thought was gonna be a second term... he ONLY debated Biden and that was considered normal. Y'all are trying to call normalcy into question when it benefits you to do so, playing dishonest games like always.

Repugs even put that proud racist, ableist, anti-vax loon RFK Jr up there and got him to pretend to be a democrat in hopes that Biden would legitimize him by debating with him... lmao.

Biden will do what presidents normally do in his situation and debate Trump, assuming Trump isn't in prison at the time and assuming Trump isn't a coward and bothers to show... but he probably will chicken out.

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09/25/23 8:00:59 PM
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Tyranthraxus
09/25/23 8:01:53 PM
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brestugo posted...
IIRC, DeSantis has avoided 1 or 2 debates with Newsom already through absurd concession requests over moderator(s), crowd, venue, dates, etc.. Not sure what was done to get this one on the docket.

Newsom can mollywhop DeSantis in his sleep, so not sure what DeSantis is going after here. It could kill his campaign altogether, which may be what he wants. There's talk he's looking for an "honorable exit" from the 2024 race.

Seems like it's a hail Mary for Iowa. If he can't take Iowa then he's out of the race. This probably won't help but at the current rate he's going he will definitely lose.

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Saxon
09/25/23 8:02:55 PM
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"Some men see things as they are and ask Why? I dream things that never were and ask, Why Not?"

Robert Kennedy 1925-1968
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mercurydude
09/25/23 8:06:51 PM
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Saxon posted...
"Some men see things as they are and ask Why? I dream things that never were and ask, Why Not?"

Robert Kennedy 1925-1968

Yes, it's a shame the apple fell fall from the tree and then took a tumble downhill before falling into a bottomless pit.

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WellKnownNomad
09/25/23 8:10:47 PM
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Dark_Moon posted...
Have you seen desantis debate? Newson have some to gain from this if he ever does run.
Yeah, DeSantis would lose in a debate against an Amiibo

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brestugo
09/25/23 8:45:20 PM
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WellKnownNomad posted...
Yeah, DeSantis would lose in a debate against an Amiibo
He doesn't even handle questions from the public well. He's got "security" harassing at least one kid who asked a question he didn't like.

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Heineken14
09/25/23 8:46:31 PM
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brestugo posted...

He doesn't even handle questions from the public well. He's got "security" harassing at least one kid who asked a question he didn't like.


And can't forget the time he yelled as high schoolers for wearing masks. Lol

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uwnim
09/25/23 8:55:46 PM
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PballDepot posted...


Also Ron will point out stuff that Gavin's legit bad at (homeless and housing etc..) which will make him look bad as well.
Hasn't he been trying to do a bunch of things regarding housing?

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A_Good_Boy
09/25/23 8:57:03 PM
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uwnim posted...
Hasn't he been trying to do a bunch of things regarding housing?
He's done more for California's housing crisis than DeSantis has for Florida's insurance crisis.

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Torgo
09/25/23 8:59:05 PM
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I was a Flintstone Kid.

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IShall_Run_Amok
09/25/23 9:00:10 PM
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I sure hope they don't get eaten by dinosaurs.

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